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Morgan phone poll: 55-45 to Coalition

Three new poll results from Roy Morgan, if you please. Despite its modest sample of 543 and high margin of error of over 4 per cent, the phone poll conducted over the past two nights is the most interesting, both for its currency and for the fact that phone polling has a clearly superior track record to Morgan’s Labor-biased face-to-face polls. Averaging Morgan’s phone poll results back to May gives almost the exact same result as for Newspoll, although the smaller samples mean Morgan has been more erratic from poll to poll.

The latest result is within the margins of recent results from other pollsters, although slightly at the Coalition end of the scale: their two-party lead is 55-45 compared with most others’ 54-46, with primary votes of 31 per cent for Labor, 46.5 per cent for the Coalition and 12 per cent for the Greens. The phone poll does not replicate the issue I keep going on about of Morgan’s face-to-face polling producing wildly different results according to whether preferences are distributed as per the result of the last election or according to respondents’ stated intentions. It instead gives us 55-45 on respondent-allocated and 55.5-44.5 on previous-election, and thus chimes with this week’s Nielsen which in fact had Labor’s share of preferences slightly higher than at the election.

Speaking of which, Morgan has published not one but two sets of face-to-face figures. Normally Morgan either publishes results from its regular weekend polling the following Friday (or occasionally Thursday), but sometimes it holds off for a week and publishes a result a combined result from two weekends. This time they have held off for a week and published separate results for each weekend. The earlier poll, conducted on January 28/29 (Australia Day having been the preceding Thursday), was remarkably positive for Labor: not only did they maintain their lead on the previous-election (51-49) method from the result published a fortnight ago, they also opened a lead on the respondent-allocated measure (50.5-49.5), which for once looked similar to the previous election result. The primary votes were 39.5 per cent for Labor, 41.5 per cent for the Coalition and 10 per cent for the Greens.

However, the polling on February 4/5 told a somewhat different story, with the Coalition up four points to 45.5 per cent, Labor down one to 38.5 per cent and the Greens down half to 9.5 per cent. This panned out to a 53.5-46.5 lead to the Coalition on respondent-allocated preferences and 51.5-48.5 on previous election. The polls individually had a sample of 1000 and theoretically a margin of error of around 3 per cent. However, the more telling point is how much Morgan face-to-face results continue to differ from other series which have consistently proved nearer the mark. In 2011, the average primary vote for Labor in Morgan was 35.9 per cent, compared with 34.1 per cent for Essential Research, 30.7 per cent for Newspoll and 29.5 per cent for Nielsen. The gap between Essential and the latter two is partly accounted for by Essential having a consistently lower result for the Greens: on two-party preferred, Essential and Newspoll were fairly similar.

For a look at the bigger polling picture, Possum surveys a landscape of flat calm 54-46 polling going back to November.

UPDATE (13/2): Another week, another 54-46 Essential Research result. After losing a point on the primary vote over each of the two previous weeks, Labor is back up one to 34 per cent, with the Greens down one to 10 per cent and the Coalition steady on 47 per cent. Essential’s monthly measure of leadership approval finds both leaders’ personal ratings essentially unchanged – Julia Gillard down one on approval to 36 per cent and up one on disapproval to 53 per cent, Tony Abbott steady on 35 per cent and up two to 53 per cent – but Gillard has nonetheless made a solid gain as preferred prime minister, her lead up from 39-36 to 41-34. However, only 31 per cent expect her to lead Labor to the next election against 47 per cent who said they didn’t (hats off to the 22 per cent who admitted they didn’t know); while for Tony Abbott the numbers were 47 per cent and 25 per cent. A question on government control of media ownership has support for more control and less control tied on 24 per cent, with 34 per cent thinking it about right. There’s also a question on the impact of Gina Rinehart on the independence of Fairfax newspapers, which I personally find a little odd – the issue would mean little outside of New South Wales and Victoria. I also had my doubts about the question on whether Australia is “fair and just”, but the question asking for comparison with other countries is interesting: Canada and New Zealand are seen as Australia’s main partners in freedom, the UK does less well, Japan and France less well again, and the United States worse still. China however sits well below the rest of the field.

We also had a teaser last night from Newspoll, which had Abbott favoured over Gillard for economic management 43 per cent to 34 per cent, and Wayne Swan and Joe Hockey in a statistical dead heat for preferred Treasurer (38 per cent to 37 per cent).

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  • 1
    This little black duck
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 8:37 pm | Permalink

    Carine is talking to a Brit bloke from OZ.

    h­ttp://news.bbc.co.uk/democracylive/hi/house_of_commons/newsid_8167000/8167512.stm

  • 2
    This little black duck
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 8:38 pm | Permalink

    Free-lance photographer, ex Daily Mail.

  • 3
    poroti
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 8:39 pm | Permalink

    Three new poll results from Roy Morgan, if you please. Despite its modest sample of 543

    So 55 people from W.A. then ? Pull the other one about a 4% margin of error.Value of Poll = not alot.

  • 4
    This little black duck
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 8:40 pm | Permalink

    William,

    Is there a PB deal for crikey?

  • 5
    ruawake
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 8:40 pm | Permalink

    Ducky

    @GaiBrodtmann

    @GaiBrodtmann hasn’t tweeted yet.

    Just in case it got lost.

    Morgan is confusing, how unusual.

  • 6
    This little black duck
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 8:41 pm | Permalink

    A Pom with an Oz accent. He sounds really weird.

  • 7
    poroti
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 8:43 pm | Permalink

    This little black duck

    A Pom with an Oz accent. He sounds really weird.

    Not as strange as the Ozseppopomgolian accent of James Sauron.

  • 8
    This little black duck
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 8:43 pm | Permalink

    On Leveson,

    No good local Oz stuff.

  • 9
    This little black duck
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 8:45 pm | Permalink

    Sauron

    You’re kidding, right?

  • 10
    The Finnigans
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 8:45 pm | Permalink

    he he he, i will spin it the best way possible

    Latest Morgan Poll, Feb 4/5, Coalition 45.5%, Labor 38.5% Greens 9.5%. 2PP of 51.5-48.5 to Coal based on previous election prefs. #auspol

  • 11
    The Finnigans
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 8:46 pm | Permalink

    Is there a PB deal for crikey?

    ducky, not on the steam driven platform

  • 12
    poroti
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 8:46 pm | Permalink

    This little black duck

    Sauron

    You’re kidding, right?

    I just assumed that Mordor was home of the Sauron clan :)

  • 13
    fredn
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 8:47 pm | Permalink

    Oh well we have to put up with abbott for anther month.

  • 14
    ruawake
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 8:48 pm | Permalink

    he he he, i will spin it the best way possible

    I reckon Gary Morgan saw this and shat himself, OK phone serfs start callin’. :lol:

  • 15
    Lyne Lady
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 8:48 pm | Permalink

    GaiBrodtmannMP Gai Brodtmann
    Off to the Heywire presentation dinner at the National Portrait Gallery tonight. I’ve been a fan of this regional youth program for years.

  • 16
    Tom the first and best
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 8:50 pm | Permalink

    Where is the Niddrie by-election thread?

    A discussion on how the Liberals a not running because running would show that the are on track to loose their Legislative Council majority by favouring the Eastern and Southern suburbs over the West and North, would just get lost in the main thread.

  • 17
    This little black duck
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 8:50 pm | Permalink

    This is hilarious. He is speaking pom-oz-kiwi and scotty-with-american-accent can’t understand what he is saying.

  • 18
    confessions
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 8:50 pm | Permalink

    I’m glad Poss is back with the Pollytrend. 54-46 to the coalition seems to be the constant.

    The Flatlining?

  • 19
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 8:51 pm | Permalink

    Sauron is understandably very upset at being compared with any of the Murdoch clan (with the exception of Dame Elisabeth).

  • 20
    This little black duck
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 8:51 pm | Permalink

    Lyne Lady,

    Do you have an @ for Gai?

  • 21
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 8:52 pm | Permalink

    However, the polling on February 4/5 told a somewhat different story, with the Coalition up four points to 45.5 per cent, Labor down one to 38.5 per cent and the Greens down half to 9.5 per cent. This panned out to a 53.5-46.5 lead to the Coalition on respondent-allocated preferences and 51.5-48.5 on previous election

    the wash thru?

    ie the polls will run a bit erratic till the new 52/48 plateau?

  • 22
    my say
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 8:52 pm | Permalink

    so margin of error, 4
    can we say,
    55_49

  • 23
    The Finnigans
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 8:52 pm | Permalink

    I reckon Gary Morgan saw this and shat himself, OK phone serfs start callin’

    Ru, bloody PM Gillard should hire me. Not only i gave her the BISONs but i can be her spin doktor as well, not to mention that i am very good at flip floppin.

    http://www.dolphinswim.net.nz/gallery/flip.jpg

  • 24
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 8:53 pm | Permalink

    Ducky, since you missed it:

    ruawake

    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 8:40 pm | Permalink

    Ducky

    @GaiBrodtmann

    @GaiBrodtmann hasn’t tweeted yet.

    Just in case it got lost.

    Morgan is confusing, how unusual.

  • 25
    This little black duck
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 8:53 pm | Permalink

    Nice shirt; not really keen on the hair, Darryn.

  • 26
    poroti
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 8:54 pm | Permalink

    This little black duck

    This is hilarious. He is speaking pom-oz-kiwi and scotty-with-american-accent can’t understand what he is saying.

    So he is beached as bro ? :lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdVHZwI8pcA

  • 27
    This little black duck
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 8:55 pm | Permalink

    Frank,

    LyneLady quoted.

  • 28
    confessions
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 8:55 pm | Permalink

    Ducky:

    You will let us know when the Aussie is on, won’t you?

  • 29
    poroti
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 8:56 pm | Permalink

    This little black duck

    Nice shirt; not really keen on the hair, Darryn.

    Shirt ? What shirt ? I haven’t got past the coiffure yet :)

  • 30
    confessions
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 8:57 pm | Permalink

    Joy of joys, Leveson is on Sky! The Aussie witness appears to be the Punk Wiggle.

    Never seen him before.

  • 31
    This little black duck
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 8:57 pm | Permalink

    poroti,

    Was that a shark at the back?

  • 32
    This little black duck
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 8:58 pm | Permalink

    fess,

    Seems ABC95 is going Whoosh! on Leveson. I wonder why, or not.

  • 33
    This little black duck
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 8:59 pm | Permalink

    fess,

    Aussie, what Aussie? I did warn you.

  • 34
    ruawake
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 9:02 pm | Permalink

    Kell & Rigby had been in trouble over the past 12 months after missing out on government tenders, he said.

    I wonder why Govt tendering in NSW would have changed in the last 12 months?

  • 35
    confessions
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 9:03 pm | Permalink

    Ducky:

    None of the juice I’d hoped for. Journos are great at sensationalising stuff, except when it comes to their profession.

  • 36
    This little black duck
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 9:04 pm | Permalink

    For those (not-)interested, John Barnaby will start strutting his stuff on ABC on Sunday nights.

  • 37
    This little black duck
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 9:05 pm | Permalink

    fess,

    You might want to hang around for Heather Mills.

  • 38
    victoria
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 9:05 pm | Permalink

    Clarke and Dawe tonight

    http://mrjohnclarke.com/media/post/rattling-through-the-key-issues/

  • 39
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 9:05 pm | Permalink

    So 55 people from W.A. then ? Pull the other one about a 4% margin of error.Value of Poll = not alot.

    That’s not how it works, Poroti. If you break any poll down into smaller components, you’ll get higher margins of error on the smaller components. That doesn’t affect the validity of the margin of error for the total result, because the variations will tend to cancel each other out.

  • 40
    shellbell
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 9:07 pm | Permalink

    Any one at the Levenson Inquiry asked Aussie Darren why he thinks his weight loss program on Channel 9 with K Fed, that Hawthorn VFL player et al tanked?

  • 41
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 9:08 pm | Permalink

    Apologies for lack of by-election threads – been a bit lazy lately. Apologies also for ongoing “posting too fast” issues. The issue has been raised, but I can’t tell you when it’s going to be fixed. Nobody on our end has said anything about a shared subscription offer, but it’s probably time we did, so I’ll make inquiries about that too.

  • 42
    This little black duck
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 9:08 pm | Permalink

    What it amounts to is that you can bitch, with some justice, about local results but Moses inscribed the overall, with the appropriate accuracy and level of confidence, of course.

  • 43
    victoria
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 9:09 pm | Permalink

    Denise
    @SpudBenBean
    Is the #ABC going out of it's way to upset indigenous Australians with the OZ day question & now Joe Hildebrant & that #ABC2 doco? #ABCfail

  • 44
    This little black duck
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 9:11 pm | Permalink

    William,

    1. We understand

    2. Thanks for the raising which is not up to you

    3. Awaits.

  • 45
    Dee
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 9:12 pm | Permalink

    whitfitzsimmons Whitney Fitzsimmons
    Thanks folks! If anyone else has questions for my interview with Craig Emerson for tmrw morning's show here's your chance. #businesstoday

  • 46
    Laocoon
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 9:12 pm | Permalink

    gus – from previous thread on the “tent question”

    when was the ahem request made, at whose instigation?

    The hitherto very communicative, almost chatty, ABC person with whom I have been in correspondence on this topic, has been entirely silent with me all week since I asked a variant of that question…

  • 47
    This little black duck
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 9:12 pm | Permalink

    #ABCfail

    First time, evah!

  • 48
    Laocoon
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 9:13 pm | Permalink

    tlbduck

    Laocoon,

    If you lived in Darwin you would be in jail by now.

    Dare I ask why?

  • 49
    This little black duck
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 9:14 pm | Permalink

    For Whitney:

    Are there more than Three Stooges in Her Majesty’s Loyal Opposition?

  • 50
    Dee
    Posted Thursday, February 9, 2012 at 9:14 pm | Permalink

    edhusicMP Ed Husic
    Spoke on the economy and the reality of the Coalition's economic track record in Parliament today. Read more here: http://fb.me/13dJ3ifmQ

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