That also happens to be the world record number of people ever fitted into a mini. Mind you, they were Malaysian students, not Ruddistas.

Come over to afrankview.net

Greentard, you should really be posting over at Larvatus Prodeo.

They hate Gillard too.

I don\’t \”hate\” Gillard.

I simply don\’t think she can win the next election. To me that should be the ultimate test of who should be the party leader. Who has the best chance of winning the next election.

For various reasons, some reasonable and some completely unfair, Gillard simply is not liked in the community. She is not considered trustworthy or believable by many Australians and the feeling is strong enough that some regular Labor supporters have no problem supporting the coalition even though it is lead by a very extreme leader.

That should give you some clues about the level of dislike of Gillard in the community.

I think Gillard has been a good administrator and legislator. But she simply is dragging the Labor brand down becuase people on a personal level don\’t like her.

Pretty damning.

Rudd promised to not challenge Gillard again. If he does is he as bad as Gillard re “No carbon tax …” ?

Yes I think so. Rudd won\’t need to challenge Gillard because she will inevitably resign, so the next leadership spill will be Rudd V Someone else.

Of course Keating said he would only challenge Hawke once before the first ballott

They hate Gillard too.