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Gillard 71, Rudd 31

Phillip Coorey of the Sydney Morning Herald reportedly reports that Julia Gillard’s winning margin over Kevin Rudd in this morning’s Labor leadership vote has been 73-29, coming in at the higher end of market expectations.

UPDATE: The official announcement has actually been that the margin was 71-31. Headline amended. Apologies that comments are currently off, which has been necessary to manage Crikey’s notoriously shaky bandwidth.

UPDATE 2: Ongoing apologies for the offness of the comments. Essential Research has come in at 56-44, up from 55-45 last week and 54-46 the week before. Labor’s primary vote is down a point to 32 per cent and the Coalition’s is up one to 49 per cent, with the Greens steady on 11 per cent. Further questions have 39 per cent blaming Julia Gillard for Labor’s problems against 18 per cent for Kevin Rudd, 23 per cent for others in the party and 10 per cent for the media. Reactions to the Gonski report are typically social democratic, with 61 per cent preferring more education funding to a return to a budget surplus and 68 per cent supporting the report’s recommendations as described against 13 per cent opposed.

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  1. most relentlessly negative press campaign I can recall

    If they keep Gillard, you aint seen nothin.

    by Radguy on Feb 28, 2012 at 2:33 am

  2. She’s already trounced him once

    Really? It looked more like pulling defeat from the jaws of victory at one stage.

    by slackboy72 on Feb 28, 2012 at 2:35 am

  3. I used to watch Married… with Children, the archetypal crappy American sitcom.

    by This little black duck on Feb 28, 2012 at 2:36 am

  4. Smithe, I’ll leave you to your delusions. I am going to read the days thread for a laugh.

    Check 1094 – election is not required to lose government.

    by Radguy on Feb 28, 2012 at 2:37 am

  5. let julia completely her projects, then KR can stand up and boast of seven years achievement and get the third term

    That is probably what Rudd is thinking: Let Gillard do all the stuff he couldn’t manage to get done, then boot her and swoop-in for the prize. Good plan.

    One problem, though: Caucus won’t let him.

    by smithe on Feb 28, 2012 at 2:38 am

  6. Yes, a great show Ducky though I hate the replacement/improvised theme song that has been played in recent reruns. Bring back Frank! (Sinatra that is)

    by Radguy on Feb 28, 2012 at 2:38 am

  7. 3.29pm: Following the Guardian allegations about phone hacking in July 2009, Prescott wrote to the Met police asking for information about who was targeted and why potential victims were not informed and action taken.

    Prescott tells the inquiry he was told “there is no evidence against you at all” by former Met police chief John Yates.

    Mr Yates will be asked about this on Thursday.

    by This little black duck on Feb 28, 2012 at 2:39 am

  8. And Gillard won’t have the opportunity to do all that “good stuff” from opposition.

    by Radguy on Feb 28, 2012 at 2:39 am

  9. So Smithe – what do you think about Hockey’s tweet?

    by Radguy on Feb 28, 2012 at 2:41 am

  10. election is not required to lose government

    No shit, Sherlock?

    Loss of the confidence of the House will do it.

    Any sign of that happening at the moment?

    No, I tought not.

    The Fibs put up SSO Motion no 41 today and it was voted down, just ike all the others before it. And to get a no-confidence Motion up, you’ve got to first succeed on an SSO.

    Which one do you reckon Tones will win? Number 75? number 213?

    I seem to recall that one of the definitions of stupidity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result each time.

    by smithe on Feb 28, 2012 at 2:43 am

  11. Frank Sinatra had a very good voice but it was just a pity that he chose not to use it; never could sing a song without trying to give it his “special effect”. Bing Crosby was my favourite crooner of that age.

    by This little black duck on Feb 28, 2012 at 2:44 am

  12. Loss of the confidence of the House will do it.

    Not necessarily. The GG may ask anyone else to try to form government.

    by This little black duck on Feb 28, 2012 at 2:45 am

  13. So Smithe – what do you think about Hockey’s tweet?

    You listen to Hockey?

    I kinda lost interest in anything he has to say once he’d demonstrated that he didn’t know what an audit was and couldn’t add-up.

    by smithe on Feb 28, 2012 at 2:46 am

  14. Prescott is good, too. He has a wicked sense of humour.

    by This little black duck on Feb 28, 2012 at 2:48 am

  15. 3.45pm: The Daily Telegraph’s Gordon Rayner has tweeted from the high court:

    Unredacted version of court papers now expected to be made available tomorrow #hacking

    — Gordon Rayner (@gordonrayner) February 27, 2012

    I’m looking forward to detailed coverage by The Australian and The Daily Telegraph.

    by This little black duck on Feb 28, 2012 at 2:50 am

  16. Not necessarily. The GG may ask anyone else to try to form government.

    Kerr style coups are a bit out of fashion these days.

    I can’t see Quentin Bryce being suckered into doing such a thing. She’s got class. Kerr was a pig.

    by smithe on Feb 28, 2012 at 2:50 am

  17. Any sign of that happening at the moment?

    No, I tought not.

    What if Hockey is leader? How much cred would these indies get for turfing out this government?

    by Radguy on Feb 28, 2012 at 2:51 am

  18. You listen to Hockey?

    I kinda lost interest in anything he has to say once he’d demonstrated that he didn’t know what an audit was and couldn’t add-up.

    It took you that long?

    by slackboy72 on Feb 28, 2012 at 2:52 am

  19. She’s got class. Kerr was a pig.

    I can go with that.

    Maybe she could ask Bob Brown?

    by This little black duck on Feb 28, 2012 at 2:52 am

  20. Maybe she could ask Bob Brown?

    I’d be happy with that. Might piss off a few other though.

    by Radguy on Feb 28, 2012 at 2:55 am

  21. What if Hockey is leader? How much cred would these indies get for turfing out this government?

    You’ve got a sense of humour, I’ll give you that.

    Both Oakie and Windsor have indicated on numerous occasions they’re more than happy with the Gillard government. Wilkie tolerates it, despite his recent dummy-spit. And you say you’re a Green, so tell us, is Bandt going to do the dirty so he can get into bed with Sloppy?

    The Libs have such green credentials, don’t they?

    The first thing they reckon they’ll do is abolish the Carbon Scheme. Your lot would come at that, would they?

    by smithe on Feb 28, 2012 at 3:00 am

  22. Has anyone noticed, or can anyone explain, why the OO site is showing their noospoll graphic as 57-43 ??
    I thought the last poll (of theirs) was 53-47.

    by silentmajority on Feb 28, 2012 at 3:02 am

  23. The first thing they reckon they’ll do is abolish the Carbon Scheme. Your lot would come at that, would they?

    Oakie and Windsor also both said that as long as the government is stable they will support it. You can’t argue that it is stable. All that the opposition need to do is put in an leader who is prepared to act on climate change and take control of the argument regarding science rather than sowing the seeds of doubt. Down goes the guillotine.

    by Radguy on Feb 28, 2012 at 3:07 am

  24. This idea feeds in rather well with Julia’s lie. Oakie and Windsor are not deniers.

    by Radguy on Feb 28, 2012 at 3:09 am

  25. Down goes the guillotine.

    No, the independents despise whatever it is the opposition stands for, especially “tear up the NBN”.

    by This little black duck on Feb 28, 2012 at 3:10 am

  26. silentmajority
    Posted Tuesday, February 28, 2012 at 3:02 am | Permalink
    Has anyone noticed, or can anyone explain, why the OO site is showing their noospoll graphic as 57-43 ??
    I thought the last poll (of theirs) was 53-47.

    It is.

    It’s probably another one of those “D’oh, did we do that…so sorry our bad” mistakes-on-purpose Mordor is famous for.

    And TLBD, apropos of the local News Corpse coverage of Leveson, what are the odds of any prosecution and conviction of James for lying under oath to the House of Commons Inquiry ever making it into Rupe’s local rags, do you think?

    by smithe on Feb 28, 2012 at 3:11 am

  27. The Tele of course warns us of all the darkness bound to happen in the reshuffle: http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/payback-time-as-pm-julia-gillard-culls-kevin-rudds-mates/story-e6freuy9-1226283387611

    It amuses me how many times they try to say ‘botched’ or similar.

    by rishane on Feb 28, 2012 at 3:12 am

  28. No, the independents despise whatever it is the opposition stands for, especially “tear up the NBN”.

    Now you’re just giving them ammo.

    by Radguy on Feb 28, 2012 at 3:13 am

  29. smithe,

    very little

    by silentmajority on Feb 28, 2012 at 3:14 am

  30. You have to love Charlotte. She gets a settlement from Roo and will use it to go for other papers (Roo’s, I hope)

    4.07pm: Our colleague Lisa O’Carrol’s exclusive interview with Charlotte Church, conducted last week, is now live:

    Charlotte Church is in fighting form. She has just settled her acrimonious case with News International over her News of the World phone-hacking claim and plans to use her portion of the damages payment to fight privacy actions against other newspapers.

    Church says she was treated unfairly by Rupert Murdoch’s British publishing arm, yet was forced to settle her case because his company had threatened to invade her privacy all over again by dragging up “ancient” stories about an affair her stepfather, James, had and a suicide attempt by her mother, Maria.

    Church is sharing the £300,000 in damages with James and Maria, with the rest of the settlement consisting of legal costs. She says she is considering using the money to pursue a privacy action against at least one other national newspaper.

    by This little black duck on Feb 28, 2012 at 3:14 am

  31. Oakie and Windsor also both said that as long as the government is stable they will support it. You can’t argue that it is stable. All that the opposition need to do is put in an leader who is prepared to act on climate change and take control of the argument regarding science rather than sowing the seeds of doubt. Down goes the guillotine.

    Because the ballot ‘only’ went 71-31? ;)

    by rishane on Feb 28, 2012 at 3:14 am

  32. You can’t argue that it is stable.

    Says who? You?

    I’ll believe it’s unstable when one of Abbott’s fatuous SSO’s gets-up.

    Until then, its as stable as it needs to be.

    by smithe on Feb 28, 2012 at 3:15 am

  33. smithe,

    Joey is definitely endangered. I just think he might go down on lying to Parliament.

    by This little black duck on Feb 28, 2012 at 3:16 am

  34. 4.13pm: The Guardian editor-in-chief, Alan Rusbridger, has just tweeted:

    Police quizzed Mulcaire abt #hacking Prescott in Aug 2006. Cops continued to deny Prescott hackedfor years#Leveson

    — alan rusbridger (@arusbridger) February 27, 2012

    We shall see.

    by This little black duck on Feb 28, 2012 at 3:18 am

  35. Abbott’s fatuous SSO’s gets-up.

    It’s not Abbott that needs to be worried about.

    by Radguy on Feb 28, 2012 at 3:19 am

  36. 4.15pm: Prescott on Andy Hayman, the Met police chief in charge of the first phone hacking investigation who later joined News International:

    The guy in charge of the investigation joins the Murdoch press and then writes constantly attacking you. Scandalous.

    by This little black duck on Feb 28, 2012 at 3:19 am

  37. Radguy
    Posted Tuesday, February 28, 2012 at 3:13 am | Permalink
    No, the independents despise whatever it is the opposition stands for, especially “tear up the NBN”.

    Now you’re just giving them ammo.

    Does the term non-sequitur mean anything to you?

    by smithe on Feb 28, 2012 at 3:20 am

  38. Would you feel comfortable with a new fib leader smithe? That first q in qt?

    by Radguy on Feb 28, 2012 at 3:20 am

  39. Labor is getting stuff done. The longer :monkey: is in charge of Nos the less chance their next leader will have of rolling the PM.

    The polls, atm, are working in the governments favour. Thanks, Peta Credlin!

    by This little black duck on Feb 28, 2012 at 3:22 am

  40. Does the term non-sequitur mean anything to you?

    Smithe, you don’t know what has gone on between the indies and the fibs. Nor do I. Pretty easy for them to shift policy to entice the indies.

    by Radguy on Feb 28, 2012 at 3:23 am

  41. Labor is getting stuff done. The longer is in charge of Nos the less chance their next leader will have of rolling the PM.

    I agree with this, although the stuff being done at the moment is pretty crap. I disagree with your last point.

    by Radguy on Feb 28, 2012 at 3:25 am

  42. John Prescott is one feisty Welshman.

    by This little black duck on Feb 28, 2012 at 3:26 am

  43. I’m sure the PM would be extremely comfortable with anyone the current crop of Libs put-up against her, radguy. And she’d wipe the floor of the House with them, too.

    It’s not exactly a deep pool of talent, now is it? Howard Era has-beens and never-were’s, to a man (and woman).

    What a rabble.

    by smithe on Feb 28, 2012 at 3:26 am

  44. TLBD,

    will Mordor ever be implicated in the cover up?

    by silentmajority on Feb 28, 2012 at 3:28 am

  45. Thanks, Peta Credlin!

    After that warning she got from Slipper the other day, she’s one interjection away from being turfed-out of the House for the remainder of this term, too.

    Peta is on her best behaviour these days.

    In the house, anyway.

    by smithe on Feb 28, 2012 at 3:29 am

  46. will Mordor ever be implicated in the cover up?

    He’ll die first.

    by This little black duck on Feb 28, 2012 at 3:32 am

  47. It’s good night from ‘sHonour and it’s good morning from me, or whatever.

    by This little black duck on Feb 28, 2012 at 3:33 am

  48. What a rabble.

    I don’t disagree. But you know what the first q would be in qt if they do make an agreement with the indies?

    by Radguy on Feb 28, 2012 at 3:36 am

  49. He’ll die first.

    I don’t think so. Look at mum.

    by silentmajority on Feb 28, 2012 at 3:36 am

  50. Smithe, you don’t know what has gone on between the indies and the fibs. Nor do I. Pretty easy for them to shift policy to entice the indies.

    Easy, you say?

    After all the wild promises and ‘blood-oaths made to every r.w dirtbag, denialist and nut-job in the country?

    Hadley, Jones and 2GB would declare a fatwa on them. Joe Nova and the Nutter Truckers would go into melt-down.

    See that’s the libs fundamental problem: They’ve followed Abbott so deeply down this policy-free dead end cul-de-sac that they’re farqued. They can’t turn-around or change course because doing so would piss-off the very consituency they’ve worked so hard to build.

    They’ve got the same problem the Repugs have in the US. They’ve fired-up the ratbags, nutters and fruitcakes and now can’t walk away from them without suffering a terrible vengeance.

    Silly fools.

    by smithe on Feb 28, 2012 at 3:38 am

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