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Gillard 71, Rudd 31

Phillip Coorey of the Sydney Morning Herald reportedly reports that Julia Gillard’s winning margin over Kevin Rudd in this morning’s Labor leadership vote has been 73-29, coming in at the higher end of market expectations.

UPDATE: The official announcement has actually been that the margin was 71-31. Headline amended. Apologies that comments are currently off, which has been necessary to manage Crikey’s notoriously shaky bandwidth.

UPDATE 2: Ongoing apologies for the offness of the comments. Essential Research has come in at 56-44, up from 55-45 last week and 54-46 the week before. Labor’s primary vote is down a point to 32 per cent and the Coalition’s is up one to 49 per cent, with the Greens steady on 11 per cent. Further questions have 39 per cent blaming Julia Gillard for Labor’s problems against 18 per cent for Kevin Rudd, 23 per cent for others in the party and 10 per cent for the media. Reactions to the Gonski report are typically social democratic, with 61 per cent preferring more education funding to a return to a budget surplus and 68 per cent supporting the report’s recommendations as described against 13 per cent opposed.

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  1. Sky just interviewed Mundine who said he’d make his decision about the Senate gig in the next 24hrs.

    Sounds like a yes

    by madcyril on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:19 pm

  2. interesting that despite last weeks kerfuffle, none of the Indies, bar Wilke (and lets face it, hes flackey) seem to want to touch the Fibs with a 10 ft barge pole.
    Also regarding QandA last nite, I thought it interesting how the audience seemed to respond favourably to suggestions that we could now see more of “feisty julia”

    by Mick Collins on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:22 pm

  3. Ummm will blaming Rudd’s alleged white-anting for all of Gillard’s mistakes help?

    And you cannot seriously deny that she made many mistakes.

    Bemused, are you deaf? Read the PM lips: “Yes, I have made mistakes”

    by The Finnigans on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:23 pm

  4. madcyril:

    I got the impression of a ‘yes’ too, despite giving some riders – family, current commitments etc.

    by confessions on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:23 pm

  5. “The urgent need for the Government to restore confidence in their management of the Australian economy.” proposed by Mr Hockey (North Sydney)

    by triton on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:23 pm

  6. Sky just interviewed Mundine who said he’d make his decision about the Senate gig in the next 24hrs.

    Unbelievable if they go with him – he can’t put 2 words together. Must be tokenism.

    by Dr John on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:24 pm

  7. News Flash

    Rich people more likely to take lollies from children: study

    Should read: Liberal Party voters more likely to take lollies from children: study

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-28/upper-class-people-more-likely-to-cheat-says-study/3856172

    ;-)

    by Tom Hawkins on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:24 pm

  8. I saw KK say she wouldn’t nominate for the NSW Senate spot (yet again confirming that there is no God).

    If there is more than one nomination, how do they decide who gets the job?

    by Diogenes on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:24 pm

  9. Diogs,

    The NSW Party provide a recommendation to the State Government of the day.

    by Greensborough Growler on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:26 pm

  10. Unbelievable if they go with him – he can’t put 2 words together.

    Yes but it is the Senate or as PK would call it “Unrepresentative Swill”

    by Tom Hawkins on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:26 pm

  11. GG

    The NSW Party provide a recommendation to the State Government of the day.

    Do they vote on it and who would get to vote?

    by Diogenes on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:28 pm

  12. I am still chuckling at the way Julia smacked down La Stupenda. Gillard seems to leave Ol’Coke Bottles’ question till last or near last, and then hits her with a metaphorical baseball bat every time.

    by Bushfire Bill on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:29 pm

  13. Confessions: You’d be feeling very vindicated, it’s been your mission in life to have Rudd be politically destroyed.

    Evan2GB, got bad news for you. Rudd destroyed himself.

    by The Finnigans on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:32 pm

  14. Gary, victoria:

    No leadershit questions to the PM in her news conference except for a garbled bit of nonsense from Grattan.

    The caravan has moved on.

    by confessions on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:33 pm

  15. Yes but it is the Senate or as PK would call it “Unrepresentative Swill”

    That’s a bit rough old son when we have Senators like Penny Wong etc that can feed into Ministerial posts. What would Mundine bring.

    by Dr John on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:33 pm

  16. Warren Mundine would be a tokenistic appointment – sorry to say that, but I can’t think of any reason why he’d win the spot on merit alone.

    by Thornleigh Labor Man on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:34 pm

  17. Well Michelle’s rambling, ambiguous style of question doesn’t play well to a 30 second sound bite answer on the TV News. La Stupenda is going to have to move with times or face repeat humiliations.

    Laura Tingle might have to tighten up her style of questions also

    by billie on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:34 pm

  18. Bushfire – it would be interesting to hear some feedback from “inside” the meeja circus how the swatting on La Stupenda and Co is going down.

    I noticed the apparent feedback was good when the PM got stuck into the rude bastard in SA the other day. The bloke that was made by his editor to apologise.

    Whatever happens I am starting to enjoy the ride even more. I love Slipper in QT, The PM and Albo in particular getting stuck into NoNo and now the PM getting it right with the meeja circus clowns. …. ( and the aging Divas)

    by jeffemu on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:35 pm

  19. TheFinnigans天地有道人无道 ‏ @Thefinnigans Reply Delete Favorite · Open
    Really glad PM Gillard & her Ministers are now taking on the #MSMhacks headson. No more BS questions from hacks unchallenged #auspol

    by The Finnigans on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:36 pm

  20. You have said it more than once but show no sign of doing so.

    Well I wouldnt lose any sleep over it Joe2. How about you mind your own?

    Maybe the “hard-head” was Arbib, and that’s one reason he’s been moved on.

    by lefty e on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:37 pm

  21. Some guy called Steve Harker, who is an investment banker, has also been mentioned as a possible Senate replacement.

    by Diogenes on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:37 pm

  22. TheFinnigans天地有道人无道 ‏ @Thefinnigans Reply Delete Favorite · Open
    Just listened to #TheirABC 1pm News and NO #Leadershits bits. Maybe finally they realise the caravan has moved on #auspol

    by The Finnigans on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:38 pm

  23. Here’s some positive news re the NBN. You can find out if you are getting it soon.

    http://www.nbnco.com.au/rollout/rollout-map.html?icid=pub:network::men:roll-map

    by Greensborough Growler on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:39 pm

  24. Diog,

    you might just as well as send the $500 to the Save The Dolphins Society, so we can save few more dolphins, rather than wait until 2013.

    Unless you are happy to see few more dolphins being slaughtered.

    by The Finnigans on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:40 pm

  25. Ah. My mistake. An SSO is not a question, but a motion.

    All you rusties can try and keep the bollard in, but she’ll be out pretty soon.

    I bet all ears are to the ground regarding the opposition’s leadership. As soon Abbott is shoved, SSO will succeed.

    by Radguy on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:40 pm

  26. diogs,

    No, they will not be asking you.

    The Labor Party wants doers, not fence sitters.

    by Greensborough Growler on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:41 pm

  27. Dio 1460 there is no vote just a nomination from the state government.

    by DavidWH on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:41 pm

  28. [ Some guy called Steve Harker, ] correvt spellinh Hawker

    by Dr John on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:42 pm

  29. diogs,

    No, they will not be asking you.

    GG, why people are so unkind?

    by The Finnigans on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:42 pm

  30. Finns

    Unless you are happy to see few more dolphins being slaughtered.

    I can think of one dolphin I wouldn’t mind seeing slaughtered…. :evil:

    by Diogenes on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:44 pm

  31. Here’s some positive news re the NBN. You can find out if you are getting it soon.

    Positive? Based on the search results for my area, I reckon I’ll be lucky to see it this decade!

    by madcyril on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:45 pm

  32. Peter Van Uphimself declares that Rudd must commit sepuku because of his spiteful hissing about the PM. It is the only way to honour the PM without reservations as he has promised. He must do this now, no questions asked.

    by Bill B. on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:46 pm

  33. Dio:

    Michael Fullilove’s name has also been talked about.

    by confessions on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:46 pm

  34. Dio 1460 there is no vote just a nomination from the state government.

    Pretty sure you’ll find that is incorrect.

    by ltep on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:46 pm

  35. Journo twitter spat…

    simon benson ‏ @simonbenson
    Smh now claims its exposure of non existent offer to carr has killed off the non existent offer. Priceless
    1:34 PM - 28 Feb 12

    Phillip Coorey ‏ @PhillipCoorey Close
    @simonbenson If you believe there was no offer, you'd believe half the cabinet was backing Rudd and that he had more than 40 votes
    1:44 PM - 28 Feb 12

    by Leroy on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:46 pm

  36. Well I wouldnt lose any sleep over it Joe2. How about you mind your own?

    I wont lose any sleep that’s for sure. Just sad for you broadcasting to all something you obviously have no intention of following.

    by joe2 on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:46 pm

  37. spiteful hissing about the PM

    Pot meet kettle.

    by Radguy on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:46 pm

  38. NSW Parliament Hansard form the last vacancy, which clearly shows the joint sitting voting on the resolution:

    http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/prod/parlment/hansart.nsf/0/5B6DDB272E025E8DCA2579370008E9BE

    A similar procedure will be used to select Senator Arbib’s replacement.

    by ltep on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:50 pm

  39. Dr John

    correvt spellinh

    -love it!

    by Ozymandias on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:51 pm

  40. I can think of one dolphin I wouldn’t mind seeing slaughtered

    Diog, i make it easy for you

    http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQwy30srUdxw_RrnFRIjZ5M5JhRMexROXAVGIB_HGZ21g7Atk_qOgFesEAn

    by The Finnigans on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:51 pm

  41. cyril,

    Maybe you’re mum designed it to get you to move out.

    My mum, who has no computer or desire to have one is peeved because the South Morang roll out finsihes on the other side of her street.

    by Greensborough Growler on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:51 pm

  42. The unhingement in the MSM is slowly but surely beginning.
    They are now starting to realise this red head aint for turning and isnt going anywhere and their campaign has failed.
    So now they are resorting to outright lies (well…I know what you are thinking)…
    Chris Smith on 2Gb has introduced a new rumour file segment. Facts don’t matter, just “as close to the truth as you can be”. Here’s the email address to use, you don’t even have to give your real name! Humphrey Bear will do!
    The best will be read by Chris on air and “we will see if we can make some of these into real news!”.
    First rumour from Chris himself is that Peter Slipper has his own dressing room and gasp! Has inquired into getting a fitting for a speaker’s wig!
    Laughing i switch to 2UE where lo and behold there’s Shanners opining that Kev has all the momentum because only a few short weeks ago he had only 5 of 6 votes!!

    by Henry on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:52 pm

  43. I bet all ears are to the ground regarding the opposition’s leadership. As soon Abbott is shoved, SSO will succeed.

    radguy

    I refer you to my post 1176 from this morning

    Absolute rubbish. Stop and think for a change. What Labor have just gone through would be a walk in the park compared to the the carnage in the Lib and Nat parties if they had a leader who wanted to adopt a serious policy on CC.

    Even if Abbott was replaced today by Turnbull (who the indies seem to respect) and he announced that his policy is now the same as the government’s the indies wouldn’t jump ship. Why would they? They’ve got a stable government in place. Besides and sensible observer would sit back and watch the opposition over a period to see if it tears itself apart under a new leader with a new cc policy.

    The Gillard government is safe on that front.

    by Tom Hawkins on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:53 pm

  44. Now the journos are starting to eat each other!
    This is beautiful.

    by Henry on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:54 pm

  45. You can’t polish a turd Henry.

    MSM will eat you guys for breakfast.

    Gee, Crean is looking pretty down. I wonder why?

    by Radguy on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:55 pm

  46. I’m getting the popcorn ready, not long till question time.

    size=4]POSSIBILITY OF NEW WORLD RECORD – WHO CAN – MESMA CAN [/size

    Who is going to make an assault on BishopJ’s new speed record for jumping to her feet and getting to the box.

    She currently has the record at 1.007/100ths of a second. I think she has a chance of getting under the sub 1 second – the first Member in history to do so, although yesterdays mental assault by that nasty Mr Slipper could have a short term effect on her concentration.

    I have new man-love for Mr Slipper. My prediction for eviction…… 3 Fibs and 1 Lab.

    Its on soon.

    by jeffemu on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:56 pm

  47. I think this article from Cassidy is very good. I also like the first comment re honesty vs spin.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-27/cassidy-gillard-leader-what-now-for-rudd/3855128

    by Lynchpin on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:56 pm

  48. Van OlsenTwins fancies himself as an His-holiness-editor-emeritus Paul Kelly in the making.
    He’s just another flea bitten hack at the end of the day.

    by Henry on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:57 pm

  49. Tom, who says they will put Turnbull in?

    I say again, how much cred will Oakie OR Windsor get within their electorates for dunping this government. And I didn’t even realise Wilkie has supported SSO. You guys are screwed. No amount of echoing in here will change that.

    Your perception of stability is held by only a very small portion of Australia, these being ALP bullies and non thinking, non critical rusties.

    by Radguy on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:59 pm

  50. Bishop does have an advantage when stepping up to the plate jeffemu.
    That hair is like Thorpeys old swimsuit – it’s an unfair advantage!

    by Henry on Feb 28, 2012 at 2:00 pm

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