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Gillard 71, Rudd 31

Phillip Coorey of the Sydney Morning Herald reportedly reports that Julia Gillard’s winning margin over Kevin Rudd in this morning’s Labor leadership vote has been 73-29, coming in at the higher end of market expectations.

UPDATE: The official announcement has actually been that the margin was 71-31. Headline amended. Apologies that comments are currently off, which has been necessary to manage Crikey’s notoriously shaky bandwidth.

UPDATE 2: Ongoing apologies for the offness of the comments. Essential Research has come in at 56-44, up from 55-45 last week and 54-46 the week before. Labor’s primary vote is down a point to 32 per cent and the Coalition’s is up one to 49 per cent, with the Greens steady on 11 per cent. Further questions have 39 per cent blaming Julia Gillard for Labor’s problems against 18 per cent for Kevin Rudd, 23 per cent for others in the party and 10 per cent for the media. Reactions to the Gonski report are typically social democratic, with 61 per cent preferring more education funding to a return to a budget surplus and 68 per cent supporting the report’s recommendations as described against 13 per cent opposed.

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  1. My car has seven gears, one is reverse. Couldn’t do without it!

    by This little black duck on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:45 pm

  2. I wish George Williams would get the gig, but I think most of his support is in the Left.

    Good suggestion!

    by Patrick Bateman on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:46 pm

  3. John Alexander is on with WW. What have we done to deserve this?

    by This little black duck on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:47 pm

  4. Bemused (124),
    Graham Edwards (much loved disabled Vietnam vet, and multiple terms MP from Perth) used that one following one of the occasions when Kim Beazley was defeated in a leadership ballot (Latham ?).
    His specific quote was the more succinct, If you can’t be with the one you love, then you love the one you’re with

    I’m not particularly interested in music but I understand that it’s a song title, and I dug up this You Tube clip, which I think is the correct one:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO4oI10tF5E

    by Peter Fuller on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:48 pm

  5. Afternoon all.

    Have just found out I have been offered a new job AND that Mark Arbib is resigning his Senate seat!

    This on the back of Gillard’s convincing win for the leadership, and it’s topped off an exciting day for me.

    by confessions on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:48 pm

  6. My car has seven gears, one is reverse. Couldn’t do without it!

    Well as long as you’re “Moving Forward” with the other 6.

    by slackboy72 on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:48 pm

  7. Shellbell
    The constitution now ensures the party’s nominee is given the position. Joh’s list of worthy candidates can’t be repeated

    by Oakeshott Country on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:48 pm

  8. I plead ignorance and forgetfulness – How does the convention work to replace the good Senator?

    The ABC suggests that the NSW government does this? Is this the case? Can just anyone get the gig?

    I thought the “convention” was the replacement had to come from the same partly, but didn’t JBP throw this to the wind that many years ago – another old example of the duplicity of the conservatives – which never changes.

    by Tricot on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:48 pm

  9. Mr Lucky got unlucky today:

    (1) Mr Rudd gets routed.
    (2) Mr Arbib resigns.
    (3) The MSM generally plays the events straight down the line.

    How long is it since Labor managed to deliver three blows against Mr Abbott in a single day?

    by Boerwar on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:48 pm

  10. Warren Mundine would be a great choice.

    Dare I suggest that that last thing Gillard needs at this point is further association with a certain defunct administration of NSW?

    by lefty e on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:48 pm

  11. Paul Howes declares non-interest in Arbib Senate vacancy on Twitter.

    The day just keeps getting better!!

    by confessions on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:49 pm

  12. In the interests of healing in the Pollbludger caucus, Greentard has told me that he has resigned.

    Oh, he was also banned.

    by ShowsOn on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:49 pm

  13. shellbell one name is usually rubberstamped by State Parliament to fill senate vacancy.

    by steve on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:49 pm

  14. The constitution now ensures the party’s nominee is given the position. Joh’s list of worthy candidates can’t be repeated

    Damn. I was going to change my name to Albert Field by deed poll.

    by Scarpat on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:50 pm

  15. Wbb on LP. LOL

    The ABC had one very simple job to do on TV this morning. Report the correct result of the caucus vote.

    And, despite hours of their self-important blather, they couldn’t manage it.

    by lefty e on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:50 pm

  16. Senate vacancies are formally filled by the relevant state parliament, but as of a referendum in 1977 they are required to accept the nomination of the relevant party.

    by William Bowe on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:50 pm

  17. Stephen Jones is giving JA a hard time.

    by This little black duck on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:51 pm

  18. Joe@: really?

    Nice to see her commitment to the voters of Bennalong. And there was I hoping she would make a tilt again in 2013 …

    by Danny Lewis on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:51 pm

  19. SO,

    Did Greentard resign before he was banned or afterwards? What does his family think of having all that extra time with him?

    by Scarpat on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:52 pm

  20. ABC – Jones v Alexander. Cleaners next.

    by CTar1 on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:52 pm

  21. Ooops. Shift key error.

    Of course that last comment was directed to Joe2 ;-)

    by Danny Lewis on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:52 pm

  22. I plead ignorance and forgetfulness – How does the convention work to replace the good Senator?

    The relevant party nominates a candidate which is then confirmed by a vote of the state parliament.

    It’s a formality.

    by ShowsOn on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:52 pm

  23. What a good day… Gillard wins and Arbib quits.

    by rummel on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:53 pm

  24. Hahaha, like Hartcher, Farnsworth is bitter! http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/3854854.html

    by rishane on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:53 pm

  25. Greentard was actually sacked by Clive Palmer as his PB production @ 2cents a post was poor . Also PB’ers picked up on him far too early. Clive is now looking offshore with the help of Twiggy.

    by Dr John on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:53 pm

  26. Stephen Jones is giving JA a hard time.

    tlbd,

    is that Janet Albrechtsen or John Alexander?

    by Scarpat on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:54 pm

  27. From this morning, pretty good article

    http://inside.org.au/rudds-decisive-defeat/

    Rudd’s decisive defeat
    By challenging – and decisively losing – Kevin Rudd has at least done Julia Gillard a favour or two, writes Norman Abjorensen
    27 February 2012

    by Leroy on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:54 pm

  28. Well done, fess. Would it be breaking any confidences to tell us if it was anything to do with the Senate vacancy?

    by Gorgeous Dunny on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:54 pm

  29. rishane,

    The day gets better and better, doesn’t it?

    by This little black duck on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:54 pm

  30. I demand a faceless man replace the faceless man who has just resigned! Or if that can’t be arranged, a factional war lord would do.

    by madcyril on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:54 pm

  31. Boers:
    3. the MSM plays…

    Not my reading or hearing for today…poisonous diatribe from Hartcher on the faceless men meme, far too much of Rudds mouthpiece

    Felt a lot like they were just going to continue….will do a tour of the rags for any latebreaking change to that impression ( which is a couple of hours old…work interfering with politicoligging..( not to mention the PB breakdown..right at the psychological moment

    by Kinkajou on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:55 pm

  32. Did Greentard resign before he was banned or afterwards? What does his family think of having all that extra time with him?

    Greentard doesn’t want to get into the precise timeline of the events.

    His wife Doris and the kids Tucker and Hunter are eager to spend more time with their husband / kids, but he spends most of his time at dance classes with Flo.

    by ShowsOn on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:55 pm

  33. shellbell, the inaccuracy in the ABC report is that they suggest the NSW Premier appoints the new senator, which is clearly incorrect.

    She has moved to Melbourne, which probably means she would be ineligible to be a NSW Senator because she would be enrolled as a voter in Victoria.

    I don’t think there’s any requirement to be registered in the state you are contesting?

    by ltep on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:55 pm

  34. Thank you scarpat and thank you William

    Yes, that was who it was – that sad man Senator Fielding – described as “Joh’s creature” or something like that.

    Ah! Happy Days! “Joh for Canberra” – I still have the sticker somewhere.

    by Tricot on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:55 pm

  35. Ms Keneally would be a poor choice indeed.

    It would smack of jobs for the girls. It would cock a snoot at those New South Welsh persons who have only just finished voting her out. It would revive memories of New South Wales’ inspired leadership merry go rounds.

    They need a complete clean skin. Surely there is someone of merit and talent who is untainted?

    by Boerwar on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:57 pm

  36. His wife Doris and the kids Tucker and Hunter are eager to spend more time with their husband / kids, but he spends most of his time at dance classes with Flo.

    Horizontal Hula?

    by Last name red wombat on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:57 pm

  37. Abbott seems to be panicking. Fancy passing this comment regarding last weekends polls.

    “It’s the Rudd blip” @TonyAbbottMHR tells @rafaelepstein why the govt has received a boost in the polls”.

    That’s an awful big rod you’ve provided for your detractors Mr. Abbott.

    by Greensborough Growler on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:57 pm

  38. Thanks for the similar info Showson.

    by Tricot on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:58 pm

  39. Interesting what Mike Kelly had to say about the vitriol.

    by slackboy72 on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:59 pm

  40. His wife Doris and the kids Tucker and Hunter are eager to spend more time with their husband / kids, but he spends most of his time at dance classes with Flo.

    We can but only wish him well in his new endeavours.

    by Scarpat on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:59 pm

  41. They need a complete clean skin. Surely there is someone of merit and talent who is untainted?

    Shane Warne? He is in country at the moment.

    by rummel on Feb 27, 2012 at 6:00 pm

  42. K

    My impression was a general impression. My benchmark was whether they stated that Ms Gillard had won a handsome victory. Against that benchmark, I believe the MSM have sent a valuable signal – Mr Rudd was not even close.

    by Boerwar on Feb 27, 2012 at 6:00 pm

  43. They need a complete clean skin. Surely there is someone of merit and talent who is untainted?

    I agree with Boerwar on the need for a cleanskin talent. But given Arbib has a high up spot on the ticket (is it No.1?), the party will probably reward some time-serving dullard who’s licked the boots of the party machine their entire life.

    by confessions on Feb 27, 2012 at 6:00 pm

  44. but he spends most of his time at dance classes with Flo.

    Greentard the devil and I thought it was Doris

    by Dr John on Feb 27, 2012 at 6:01 pm

  45. Shane Warne? He is in country at the moment.

    Unfortunately while he is not a thrower he is certainly a tosser.

    by Scarpat on Feb 27, 2012 at 6:01 pm

  46. Arbib resigns to “spend more time with my faction”. Someone call Australian Story!

    by lefty e on Feb 27, 2012 at 6:03 pm

  47. Unfortunately while he is not a thrower he is certainly a tosser.

    His is over qualified to replace Arbib then.

    by rummel on Feb 27, 2012 at 6:03 pm

  48. How long is it since Labor managed to deliver three blows against Mr Abbott in a single day?

    This is sort of like when people survive a plane crash and declare themselves to be “lucky”. Lucky is not being in a plane crash at all. Surviving one is being unlucky, just not quite as unlucky as some of the other victims.

    Today Labor has not delivered any ‘blows’ to Abbott – it has simply done less damage to itself than it might otherwise have done.

    by Patrick Bateman on Feb 27, 2012 at 6:03 pm

  49. slackboy72
    Posted Monday, February 27, 2012 at 5:37 pm | Permalink
    Mari you’re right.
    Giving a frank opinion that you don’t like is just ruining your perfect life

    Glad you agree with me, well bye bye PB hullo Menzies House from Slackboy 72

    by mari on Feb 27, 2012 at 6:03 pm

  50. Shane Warne? He is in country at the moment.

    We need less spin, not more.

    by Patrick Bateman on Feb 27, 2012 at 6:04 pm

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