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Morgan face-to-face: 52-48 to Coalition

Last weekend’s Morgan face-to-face survey echoed other polls conducted at the time in showing little change on earlier polling despite Labor’s leadership turmoil, though as always it failed to echo other polls in having Labor’s primary vote several points higher. In this case Labor’s primary vote was up half a point on the previous week to 37.5 per cent, with the Coalition also up a point to 42.5 per cent and the Greens down 3.5 per cent from an anomalous 14.5 per cent last time. As usual with Morgan (though not Nielsen), there was a substantial difference between the two-party preferred results as derived by respondent allocation (52-48 to the Coalition) and using preference flows from the previous election (50-50).

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  1. Rod_Hagen ‏ @Rod_Hagen
    Snide garbage from Mark Simpkin on #ABCNews once again. Be nice to have news, not editorials, on the ABC News again, I reckon.

    “Snide garbage.” Very apt.

    by lizzie on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:10 pm

  2. showy @ 1078

    YOU are the liar. That much is clear. You were not there.

    Fxxk off

    No swearing during speed dating! It’s against forum rules!

    by ShowsOn on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:12 pm

  3. OC

    Mate you often don’t get that long for murder

    It’s a terribly inefficient way of training someone. It takes ages, as you know, to train someone to be able to do everything in their specialty (plastics is esp bad as we have hands, craniofacial, burns, microsurgery, cosmetic and head and neck as subspecialties) but no-one does all those when they finish. Most do just one.

    And 70% of plastics is straightforward “general” plastic surgery which involves none of those specialties.

    There has to be a better way.

    by Diogenes on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:13 pm

  4. Diog

    Thanks for the info.

    My bro is so rapt to be back working, concreting,
    I’m not going to tell him that his hip replacement will not last as long as someone more sedentary.

    On the other hand, he wouldn’t have it any other way.
    He’d rather be working

    Oh, and did I tell you.
    His dad was a conscientious objector in WWII.
    Jumped ship in Sydney Harbour.
    Champion swimmer.

    Later worked on Westgate Bridge, Melbourne.
    Used to raffle his pay in the local on a Friday night (a meat tray).
    Took home twice his earnings.
    And, yes, missed getting killed in the collapse.

    Haven’t Labor peeps got all the good stories?

    by kezza2 on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:14 pm

  5. Puff,

    I am on the waiting list.

    You’ll be the one with those nice scales and breathing fire?

    by This little black duck on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:14 pm

  6. bemused

    She has always impressed me and she absolutely demolished Richard Alston in a debate organised by the Australian Computer Society before the 2004 election when she was (I think) shadow minister for telecommunications (or whatever it was called)

    To be fair she was up against the guy a Brit IT magazine awarded awarded the title of World’s Worst Comunication Minister. Not saying she is not full of talent though.

    World's biggest luddite retains IT ministership
    Senator Alston clings to post

    The man you see pictured above may be the greatest luddite the world has ever seen, which is particularly ironic because he happens the be the minister for Communications, Information Technology and The Arts for the Australian government.

    Meet Senator Richard Kenneth Robert Alston

    Most recently, Rich plans to introduce a law that outlaws any online gambling whatsoever for Australian citizens. Companies can still sell betting services to people outside the country though. This comes close behind a plan to make email forwarding illegal

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/11/24/worlds_biggest_luddite_retains/

    by poroti on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:16 pm

  7. And 70% of plastics is straightforward “general” plastic surgery which involves none of those specialties.

    There has to be a better way.

    I use this:
    http://www.selleys.com.au/fillers/flexible-gap-filler/3-in-1-adhesive-sealant-gap-filler

    by ShowsOn on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:16 pm

  8. Shell bell

    If you are still around, there is a very good article on the value of Mr Rudd as a foreign minister in today’s ‘The Straits Times’ by, I think, Mr Jim Soong. The main elements raised in Mr Rudd’s favour were:
    (1) his formulation of a clear set of principles for engagement with china
    (2) his approach to multiple-lateral structures for regional engagement.

    On the most recent issue, the judgement was that Mr Rudd’s back bench situation is ‘self-inflicted’.

    by Boerwar on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:16 pm

  9. Zoomster Birmingham hemiarthroplasty- friend just had one very successful. how old are you? You could try an osteotomy.

    On the political front, Carr appointment good, stuffing around not good. Why can’t something just be simple? Mclelland demotion hmmm I think overal bad.

    by centaur009 on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:16 pm

  10. To be fair she was up against the guy a Brit IT magazine awarded awarded the title of World’s Worst Comunication Minister. Not saying she is not full of talent though.

    Alston’s only job as communications minister was to privatise Telstra.

    He clearly saw everything else as a waste of his time.

    by ShowsOn on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:17 pm

  11. $3 is still long odds in a two horse race. really:

    Odds narrow for Victorian Coalition poll win Jane Holroyd
    February 16, 2010

    The odds have narrowed for change of government in Victoria after the Altona byelection prompted a flurry of bets in favour of the Coalition with one online bookmaker.

    While the odds remain overwhelmingly in favour of the Labor government claiming the November state poll, sportsbet.com.au has moved the odds of a Coalition victory a massive 95 cents after 30 bets in favour of the Opposition, including a $5000 punt that would see one backer collect $18,000 in winnings if Ted Baillieu claims victory.

    Betting for the 2010 Victorian election opened on sportsbet.com.au in June last year, with experts setting the odds at $1.18 for the Brumby Government compared to $4.60 for the Ted Baillieu-led Coalition.
    The competition had proved uninspiring to punters until campaigning for this weekend's byelection, which saw a swing of more than 12 per cent against against Labor in former transport minister Lynne Kosky's vacated seat in Melbourne's west.

    by the spectator on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:18 pm

  12. DavidWH,

    Poroti I think the centre of attention is shifting and Abbott needs to start talking about substantive policy to stop that momentum. I expect PB’ers or the majority will have cause to be happier in the months ahead unless Abbott can make that transition.

    It may be a tough period for me :)

    Celebrate it! The worse things get for the Liberals, the better they will look for the wage-earners among your neighbours and loved ones. No party comes close as a policy threat to the pay and conditions of employees. Welcome the rough times that lie ahead for the Liberals. They surely deserve them.

    by Cuppa on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:18 pm

  13. kezza

    Hip replacements are absolute winner operations. They always rate up the top in outcomes and give people back their mobility.

    There is a good chance it won’t wear out and they are very good at revisions of hip replacements now even if it does wear out.

    by Diogenes on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:18 pm

  14. Why do Labor keep shooting themselves in the foot?

    Do they like it?

    by Gary Sparrow on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:19 pm

  15. The fact that nobody in the current caucus could get a gig as FA minister is a joke!

    by Gary Sparrow on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:21 pm

  16. They want to play Sri Lanka. Bad move.

    by This little black duck on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:22 pm

  17. “Snide garbage.” Very apt.

    Indeed. Simpkin was named as one of those Rudd was leaking to, so you can understand his frustration at being shown up twice in one week by Gillard!

    I love it.

    by confessions on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:22 pm

  18. The msm is tying itself in granny knots.

    by This little black duck on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:24 pm

  19. The fact that nobody in the current caucus could get a gig as FA minister is a joke!

    Well, clearly Rudd is the best candidate for the job.

    by ShowsOn on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:24 pm

  20. ShowsOn

    To be fair she was up against the guy a Brit IT magazine awarded awarded the title of World’s Worst Comunication Minister. Not saying she is not full of talent though.

    Alston’s only job as communications minister was to privatise Telstra.

    He clearly saw everything else as a waste of his time

    He came to mind a couple of days beck when they released that report about the forced adoptions. I still remember him in an interview years back telling how proud he was to have been involved in trwenty odd such adoptions.

    by poroti on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:25 pm

  21. Puff, the Magic Dragon.
    Posted Friday, March 2, 2012 at 6:54 pm

    http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2012/03/01/morgan-face-to-face-52-48-to-coalition-2/comment-page-23/#comment-1185421

    I was on the audience list for Q&A for Monday but I did not get in. I am on the waiting list.

    “Wrong” political allegiance, I wouldn’t be surprised. Next time, tell ‘em you’re a Liberal voter!

    by Cuppa on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:25 pm

  22. The fact that nobody in the current caucus could get a gig as FA minister is a joke!

    Is it? there was a senate vacancy it happened to be filled by someone who was eligible. makes sense to me. just so happens that parliament does not have monopoly on talent in this country. the US system of drafting experts to fullfil key secretarial roles makes sense.

    by the spectator on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:25 pm

  23. On the most recent issue, the judgement was that Mr Rudd’s back bench situation is ‘self-inflicted’.

    Understatement of the week!

    Maybe a tad premature, but I reckon this week will represent a turning point for the PM.

    by confessions on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:25 pm

  24. poroti @ 1155

    poroti
    Posted Friday, March 2, 2012 at 7:16 pm | Permalink
    bemused

    She has always impressed me and she absolutely demolished Richard Alston in a debate organised by the Australian Computer Society before the 2004 election when she was (I think) shadow minister for telecommunications (or whatever it was called)

    To be fair she was up against the guy a Brit IT magazine awarded awarded the title of World’s Worst Comunication Minister. Not saying she is not full of talent though.

    Yes, it was kind of an unequal match. But he did himself no favours by arriving very late and generally displaying a bad attitude.

    Kate was just cool, calm and collected and had the unfair advantage of facts and knowledge on her side. :evil:

    by bemused on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:25 pm

  25. 1163 Gary Sparrow
    Posted Friday, March 2, 2012 at 7:19 pm | Permalink
    Why do Labor keep shooting themselves in the foot?

    Do they like it?

    Mate, your lot and their MSM hack supporters have just stepped on a landmine. They’re thrashing around on the ground, trying to collect the pieces of their shattered limbs and you come along talking about Labor shooting itself in the foot?

    Look to your own problems, comrade.

    On the upside, there appear to be a couple of surgical types here. Maybe one or other of them can fit your ourfit with suitable prostheses. (I’d suggest peg legs to go with your Party’s propensity to raiding the surplus and plundering workers’ pay and conditions).

    by smithe on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:26 pm

  26. the spectator

    just so happens that parliament does not have monopoly on talent in this country. the US system of drafting experts to fullfil key secretarial roles makes sense.

    Couldn’t agree more. They should do it more often.

    by Diogenes on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:28 pm

  27. confessions @ 1167

    Indeed. Simpkin was named as one of those Rudd was leaking to…

    And the evidence for this is?

    Otherwise it is merely an allegation by his enemies.

    by bemused on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:29 pm

  28. We’ve been banging on about this for a while.

    One out of every 10 Wall Street employees is likely a clinical psychopath, writes journalist Sherree DeCovny in an upcoming issue of the trade publication CFA Magazine (subscription required). In the general population the rate is closer to one percent.

    "A financial psychopath can present as a perfect well-rounded job candidate, CEO, manager, co-worker, and team member because their destructive characteristics are practically invisible," writes DeCovny, who pulls together research from several psychologists for her story, which helpfully suggests that financial firms carefully screen out extreme psychopaths in hiring.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/28/wall-street-psychopaths_n_1307168.html?ref=mostpopular

    by Diogenes on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:31 pm

  29. Why do Labor keep pwning the opposition?

    gary sparrow, fixed it for you

    by Mick Collins on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:32 pm

  30. bemused

    Yes, it was kind of an unequal match. But he did himself no favours by arriving very late and generally displaying a bad attitude.

    Kate was just cool, calm and collected and had the unfair advantage of facts and knowledge on her side

    Facts !! Oy vey ,always with the facts..Very unfair of her, besides facts have a notorious left wing bias ;)

    by poroti on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:32 pm

  31. the spectator @ 1171

    the spectator
    Posted Friday, March 2, 2012 at 7:25 pm | Permalink
    The fact that nobody in the current caucus could get a gig as FA minister is a joke!

    Is it? there was a senate vacancy it happened to be filled by someone who was eligible. makes sense to me. just so happens that parliament does not have monopoly on talent in this country. the US system of drafting experts to fullfil key secretarial roles makes sense.

    We have a parliamentary system with ministers responsible to parliament.

    We have experts filling key secretarial roles. Sometimes referred to as Department Heads.

    by bemused on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:32 pm

  32. Hang on, it isn’t like Carr is an expert in international relations or anything. Rudd has far better academic qualifications and work experiences for the role.

    Hillary Clinton is probably the least expert Secretary of State the U.S. has had for about 20 years. Most of the recent ones have been Professors of international relations.

    by ShowsOn on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:33 pm

  33. Nothing like a second hand used Carr eh Mick?

    by Gary Sparrow on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:34 pm

  34. Had to laugh listening to PM (ABC that is) when Mark Colvin was talking to Sabraa Lane.
    Colvin suggested that JG basically played the media for fools, “conjuring” was the word he used and that basically fell for it hook line and sinker.
    Bit of aggro between the two I thought as Lane spluttered the usual “no no, there was a backdown, disgruntled ministers etc” cobblers, without a shred of evidence.
    Onya Colvers and welcome Mark. A good day for labor today.
    Things are looking up.

    by Henry on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:34 pm

  35. Snide garbage from Mark Simpkin on #ABCNews once again.

    Lizzie – Simkin has become nearly the ABC worst especially as he leads on News and not current affairs or opinion program.
    Simkins classic no1 news item for me on 7pm news this year was on the day of the Chinese New Year. An item he lead with and then finished with him saying things will be warming up in the Year of the Dragon – and then showed 10 seconds of footage of Julia Gilliard walking along a corridor at Parliament House. He needs a big cockney kiss like Toolman

    by Dr John on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:34 pm

  36. Weclome Bob I mean…post in haste…

    by Henry on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:34 pm

  37. Dio
    You are absolutely right re training but nothing will change while the college is so tradition bound. Much of the long time and bottlenecks in training are a mechanism to keep the numbers low. The deregulation of training is absolutely necessary and I look forward to seeing the results of places like Macquarie University’s training program

    by Oakeshott Country on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:36 pm

  38. just so happens that parliament does not have monopoly on talent in this country. the US system of drafting experts to fullfil key secretarial roles makes sense.

    Very much how I see it as well. A government Senate vacancy is a rare opportunity for an appropriately qualified person to be rationally matched to the appropriate executive office, bypassing the absurd anachronism of requiring them to hold a seat in the House. Top marks to the PM for pushing this one through.

    by William Bowe on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:36 pm

  39. We have a parliamentary system with ministers responsible to parliament.

    We have experts filling key secretarial roles. Sometimes referred to as Department Heads.

    I agree with you on the parliamentary system being something worth aspiring to or protecting, but we also need the responsible ministers to be of the calibre that they’re able to take and make good policy decisions. Unaccountable public servants should be taking/making as few policy decisions as possible and ministers should be able to question what is presented to them by their departments.

    by ltep on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:36 pm

  40. Re bob Carr.

    Good job gillard. Well played and a good choice.
    That is all.

    by rummel on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:37 pm

  41. Chainsaw Al Dunlap is the archetypal psycopath they say diogenes.
    Somebody interviewed him once (could have Jon Ronson) at home, all the paintings in the place where portraits of himself.

    by Henry on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:37 pm

  42. Surely another factional hack could retire from the Senate to free things up for Steve Waugh to take his place as the Minister for Sport?

    Or why not just create a Minister for Cricket to encourage Ricky Ponting to retire? There’s more than enough Tasmanian Senate seats.

    by ShowsOn on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:39 pm

  43. The fact that nobody in the current caucus could get a gig as FA minister is a joke!

    Gary Sparrow you won this one – as everyone knows Julie Bishop stands head and shoulders over anyone – Kissinger wouldn’t even rate

    by Dr John on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:39 pm

  44. Dr John

    Every time the ABC (1 or 24) throws to a “political anything” I start to feel my blood boil with the lack of truth in analysis. They really would be wiser to stick with facts, but they can’t resist making things up.
    With the advantage of reading PB I always feel ahead of the ABC on facts and it gets vee-e-ery frustrating. They should be better than me :mad:

    by lizzie on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:41 pm

  45. Just because Dr John I criticise Labor doesn’t mean I don’t think the Libs are a joke too.

    by Gary Sparrow on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:41 pm

  46. ShowsOn
    Don’t forget the shortest political career in Australian history – Mal Meninga.
    Some celebrities are just not politicians while some like Garrett take time to hit their straps.

    by Oakeshott Country on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:42 pm

  47. The US has had some secretarial stinkers cos jobs for the girls and the boys.

    by Boerwar on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:42 pm

  48. Nothing like a second hand used Carr eh Mick?

    The experts always recommend buying a late model used car rather than a brand spankng new one Mr Sparrow

    by Mick Collins on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:43 pm

  49. Henry

    Chainsaw Al Dunlap is the archetypal psycopath they say diogenes.

    I read a bio of Dunlap. He was just an appalling human being.

    I imagine Finns Boerwar Fukushima Inc has a huge mural of him in their head office. :evil:

    by Diogenes on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:43 pm

  50. You know what’s so sad, is that it has to be JG to tell her.
    OTOH, I suppose it’s the only way. Woman to Woman.

    Kezza,

    Yes, harsh but true. What an inglorious end to an illustrious career.

    But, hey, the old dear is not dead. Just her writing and insights.

    by Scringler on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:44 pm

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