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Essential Research: 56-44 to Coalition

The latest weekly Essential Research survey shows no change on last week, bar a one point drop in the Greens vote to 10 per cent: the Coalition is on 49 per cent of the primary vote and Labor on 32 per cent, with the Coalition’s two-party lead at 56-44. Essential also found plenty of interesting questions to ask about the Labor leadership. Respondents were asked to evaluate the performance of various actors during the challenge, with Kevin Rudd coming out least badly (33 per cent good, 35 per cent poor), “Labor Party ministers” the worst (10 per cent and 52 per cent), the media also very poorly (14 per cent and 43 per cent), Julia Gillard not well at all (23 per cent and 49 per cent) and Tony Abbott hardly better even if it might be hard to recall what he did exactly (25 per cent and 40 per cent).

Sixty-two per cent of respondents said the leadership challenge was bad for the government and 47 per cent that it has made them less likely to vote Labor (64 per cent among Coalition supporters, obviously including many who wouldn’t vote Labor in a pink fit), against 13 per cent who said it was a good thing and another 13 per cent (or perhaps the same 13 per cent) who they were more likely to vote Labor. A question on Kevin Rudd’s future produces a miraculously even three-way split with 29 per cent saying he should stay in parliament and again challenge for the leadership, 28 per cent saying he should stay in parliament and not challenge for the leadership and 30 per cent saying he should resign from parliament.

Respondents were asked to indicate whether they supported the Australian system of leaders being elected by MPs (36 per cent), American-style presidential primaries (31 per cent) and British-style election by both MPs and party members (11 per cent). Fifty-six per cent believed MPs should be guided by public opinion in leadership contests against 30 per cent by who they believed was the best person. The poll also points to a slight increase in support for an early election since the end of January, up three to 44 per cent with support for a completed term down two to 46 per cent.

We have also had Newspoll publish results from last week’s polling on the most important political issues and the best party to handle them. Such figures are invariably very closely associated with voting intention, and since this was a 53-47 poll result, it finds Labor improving considerably since the question was last asked as part of the poll of October 7-9, which was a 57-43 result. Labor has recovered big leads on its traditional strong suits of health, education, industrial relations and climate change, and closed the gap on the economy, interest rates and national security. Full tables from GhostWhoVotes.

Categories: Federal Politics 2010-

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  1. Nobody wants to be jumping between threads, and it is a complete waste of time anyway

    Exactly, so people wanting to follow just the Queensland election commentary shouldn’t need to jump between multiple threads to find relevant comments.

    by ltep on Mar 6, 2012 at 1:46 pm

  2. What do you want, hyperlinks to the next comment on the subject?

    by This little black duck on Mar 6, 2012 at 1:48 pm

  3. Look who has his photo in retro black and white most prominently shown on the “front page” of the online SMH . rumble rumble.
    “figures suggest they’d be much further ahead under Malcolm Turnbull, that Abbott may be holding the Coalition back somewhat.”]

    http://www.smh.com.au/

    by poroti on Mar 6, 2012 at 2:01 pm

  4. http://www.theglobalmail.org/feature/reporters-without-orders/106/

    By Mike Seccombe
    BUSINESS & ECONOMICS | March 6, 2012

    REPORTERS WITHOUT ORDERS Journalists race to be first with the news. A new report calls for a stronger umpire to stop this becoming a race to the bottom for journalistic standards.

    Competitive markets are in theory a great thing. In reality though, that's not always true.

    In theory, when there are multiple suppliers of a good or service competing, prices come down close to the cost of production, innovation is encouraged, and consumers benefit.

    Worth reading. Unlike most of the MSM articles.

    by Leroy on Mar 6, 2012 at 2:10 pm

  5. Because it’s stupid having two parallel discussions about the same thing.

    So why not let the comments happen where people prefer they happen? That means the Queensland thread will die now, rather than tomorrow after 100 posts or so. The last specialist thread on Queensland hit the dizzying height of 120 posts.

    The product (state election threads) do not work. The smack of a line extension strategy that nobody wants. So why have two threads with the same discussion, when one talks about 100 different things except the one thing that the other talks about?

    The stupid thing is not talking about the Queensland election here; it is talking about the Queensland election on a thread nobody looks at or responds to.

    Are you suggesting that people come here just to look at the Queensland election thread? If so, it is obviously a failing strategy.

    by JohD on Mar 6, 2012 at 2:13 pm

  6. John Bergin ‏ @theburgerman
    Bob Carr will be attending the joint sitting of the NSW Parliament - he'll do a doorstop around 4.30pm AEDT. #auspol

    by confessions on Mar 6, 2012 at 2:16 pm

  7. On my android device I get a name below the comment. It says “By (commenter's name)“.

    Don’t get this, only a text dialogue item type thingy. Jumping between threads on an android is a pain-in-the-proverbial.

    by JohD on Mar 6, 2012 at 2:17 pm

  8. Johd@854:

    So why not let the comments happen where people prefer they happen? That means the Queensland thread will die now, rather than tomorrow after 100 posts or so. The last specialist thread on Queensland hit the dizzying height of 120 posts.

    Couldn’t agree more.

    The comments on the Qld election have been interesting to read here, but I would never have gone to the special thread to look at them just on the off chance.

    by don on Mar 6, 2012 at 2:19 pm

  9. Jumping between threads on an android is a pain-in-the-proverbial.

    Indeed, but you don’t get the option to view the regular web version? I do on my phone – but have until now resisted the temptation.

    by ltep on Mar 6, 2012 at 2:22 pm

  10. ajm

    I know I’m a bit prone to conspiracy theories, but I suspect an improvement in Newstart is being saved by the government for the 2013 election campaign. I note the government isn’t saying anything to preclude this and it would be a good way to lock in the base vote. Provided the 2012/13 surplus has been delivered as promised, it could be sold to the swinging voter as a product of the fiscal discipline being followed by the government.

    I wish I shared your optimism there.

    Both major political parties do nothing to counter the prevailing myths and stereotypes of the unemployed, as exemplified by “dole bludgers”.

    Neither of the major political parties is all that interested in the plight of marginalised groups such as the unemployed and single parents. The demonisation and scapegoating of “dole bludgers” is a vote puller with the swinging voters who determine the outcome of every election.

    It is not in the interests of either major party to really advocate that the unemployed and single parents receive an adequate income to be able to live their lives with dignity.

    Blaming the victim is alive and well in many sections of our society.

    Swan’s specious response to Peter Martin’s question reveals the official mindset.

    by Pegasus on Mar 6, 2012 at 2:23 pm

  11. If discussion of the Queensland election is in any way relevant to broader themes of national politics, I’ll allow it here. But discussion of the Ashgrove poll should go on the Ashgrove poll thread.

    by William Bowe on Mar 6, 2012 at 2:24 pm

  12. FWIW, I’ve always valued the less cluttered state threads.

    by ltep on Mar 6, 2012 at 2:24 pm

  13. Kick-ass piece in Crikey today from Bernard Keane on Wayne Swan’s inspired display of class warfare yesterday. One highlight among many:

    And then there was the reaction of Clive Palmer, a man who, despite his constantly laboured breathing, effortlessly demonstrates one of the consequences of f-ck-off levels of wealth — the eccentricity that consumes someone who no longer has to care what anyone thinks of them, their appearance or their statements.

    by William Bowe on Mar 6, 2012 at 2:31 pm

  14. but if we never give the LNP a chance then we will never find out if they can overcome those differences.

    We did, Joh was in charge!.

    by 1934pc on Mar 6, 2012 at 2:31 pm

  15. REPORTERS WITHOUT ORDERS Journalists race to be first with the news. A new report calls for a stronger umpire to stop this becoming a race to the bottom for journalistic standards.

    The recent Carr Conundrum coverage was an example of this. The two media “giants”, Fairfax and News (both claiming credit for the scoop, BTW) got the germ of the story, a few pieces of a much larger puzzle, and sexed it up: 2+2=22. They guessed the rest, putting through their standard “Labor In Crisis… AGAIN!” prism.

    They got it wrong, and then tried to make the facts fit their story. For their story to make senses they had to make out that Gillard was being devious and sneaky in “avoiding” their questions.

    All she actually did was do what she said she’d do: dismiss commentary on the reshuffle until it actually happened. The only diversion from this was to say that the Australian’s story – that she had offered Carr the job (wrong) and that she had been rolled by the faceless men who control her (wrong) and thus was poor leadership and PM material therefrom (wrong) – was “completely untrue”.

    It started out close-ish – Carr had been contacted, true – but quickly deviated far away from reality when all the wishful thinking about Gillard being nobbled within 24 hours of beat Rudd was added to the mix (in Shanahan’s case, by the second paragraph of his original 40 paragraph article).

    IF you put a jigsaw puzzle together with some of the pieces in correct arrangement to each other, but ultimately put the lion’s head on a giraffe, and a hippo’s arse on a meerkat – then who’s pinned the tail on the donkey? Gillard or the useless commentariat chasing a gotcha?

    They wanted a story that fitted the sexy meme of “Leaderless Labor” and, energized by trying to scoop their rivals, screwed up big time: all of them.

    I don’t see why Gillard should be blamed for that. She screwed them all, without even needing an Australian flag to do it.

    by Bushfire Bill on Mar 6, 2012 at 2:38 pm

  16. Sounds like interest rates are left on hold.

    by confessions on Mar 6, 2012 at 2:42 pm

  17. Because it’s stupid having two parallel discussions about the same thing.

    I sense a tautology there somewhere. Wonder if Alex Buzo reads PB?

    by Gorgeous Dunny on Mar 6, 2012 at 2:49 pm

  18. confessions

    Sounds like interest rates are left on hold.

    OMG OMG.Wrong Way McCrann thinks so too !

    The RBA is most likely to leave its official interest rate unchanged today.

    Well sort of. There is “a new twist” so he thinks interest rates will likely remain the same……………. unless they are changed :lol:

    The new twist is, were the board to decide to cut over a - soft - RBA management recommendation not to
    These are the "very close call" times. In essence, unlike his predecessor Ian Macfarlane, Stevens appears happy to leave those decisions to the board.
    It's those times we get a "surprise' change.

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/business/tread-softly-softly-on-rates/story-fn7j19iv-1226289852556

    by poroti on Mar 6, 2012 at 2:56 pm

  19. So, poroti, he is so heartily sick of getting it wrong that this time he made sure he was covered either way. From his point of view it was probably the best he could do.

    by triton on Mar 6, 2012 at 3:02 pm

  20. fess, poroti, triton

    Bugger!!!

    That makes it very difficult to have a bet on interest rate movements. Usually you’re on a winner betting on the opposite of whatever McCrann predicts.

    by Dan Gulberry on Mar 6, 2012 at 3:09 pm

  21. http://finance.ninemsn.com.au/newsbusiness/aap/8430621/rba-keeps-cash-rate-at-4-25-per-cent

    RBA leaves cash rate at 4.25%
    Reported by AAP Tuesday, March 6, 2012

    The Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA) has kept the cash rate at 4.25 per cent after its March board meeting citing improved economic conditions.

    by Leroy on Mar 6, 2012 at 3:16 pm

  22. Bilbo @862,

    Perhaps you could have chosen this quote too..

    The opposition complaining about “class warfare” was even better. The phrase “class warfare” is a dead giveaway that: 1.) you’re too lazy to do some actual thinking; 2.) you’re protecting the interests of privileged élites; and 3.) that you need to go read a history of the French Revolution or the Khmer Rouge to know what actual class warfare looks like.

    :D

    by cud chewer on Mar 6, 2012 at 3:19 pm

  23. Got to love Centrelink…

    hung on the phone for over 10 mins, then long conversation with (very nice) lady. “I can send you out a form, should reach you within the week, and then it will take a fortnight to process.” Me: “Isn’t there a quicker way?” Lady: “Oh, you could sort it out with me right now if you like.”

    Which I did. But why didn’t she make that the first option?

    by zoomster on Mar 6, 2012 at 3:21 pm

  24. poroti:

    I don’t see how McCrann’s commentary can be worth anything other than as joke material!

    by confessions on Mar 6, 2012 at 3:23 pm

  25. RBA leaves cash rate at 4.25%

    Reckon this because they sense the banks are going to ignore it anyway. They did last time.
    Better for them to leave rates as they are and have banks puts theirs up, and have people suspect they are irrelevant; than lower them and have banks put their rates, thus proving they are irrelevant.

    by JohD on Mar 6, 2012 at 3:27 pm

  26. Who would have thunk that, ugly duckling Clarke Kent @SwannyDPM now a cultural & political warrior attacking the Graceless men/women #auspol

    by The Finnigans on Mar 6, 2012 at 3:27 pm

  27. GD

    Depends if the meaning of parallel is Euclidean or non-Euclidean.

    by Diogenes on Mar 6, 2012 at 3:29 pm

  28. George Cash is a former WA State politician – maybe in the 1980s? Was Attorney-General I think at one stage.

    Anyway part of a political dynasty I suppose.

    Actually G Cash came across as a quite reasonable pollie as I remember it.

    by Tricot on Mar 6, 2012 at 3:34 pm

  29. Forgot to add, though largely unnecessary – for the conservatives.

    by Tricot on Mar 6, 2012 at 3:34 pm

  30. George Cash was also President of the WA Legislative Council at one stage if I recall correctly.

    by ltep on Mar 6, 2012 at 3:37 pm

  31. I don’t see how McCrann’s commentary can be worth anything other than as joke material!

    From memory, he has been wrong about the last three interest rate decisions.

    He has either predicted change where there has been no change or no change when there has been a change.

    by ShowsOn on Mar 6, 2012 at 3:38 pm

  32. Depends if the meaning of parallel is Euclidean or non-Euclidean.

    Diog, it dont matter in Law of Uncertainty of Quantum Mechanics because i am certain that you can be both or neither or either or a dead cat or you can be both wRONg & RighT (for a change) :P

    by The Finnigans on Mar 6, 2012 at 3:39 pm

  33. confessions
    Posted Tuesday, March 6, 2012 at 3:23 pm | Permalink

    poroti:

    I don’t see how McCrann’s commentary can be worth anything other than as joke material!

    That reminds me: at the height of the Labor leadership challenge, who did the Herald-Sun have to give their expert interpretation? None other than Andrew Bolt and Terry McCrann.

    Mind you, the so-called political insiders hardly fared any better.

    by Gorgeous Dunny on Mar 6, 2012 at 3:40 pm

  34. Interest rates on hold.

    www.theage.com.au/business/rba-leaves-rates-on-hold-20120306-1uh8s.html

    Another line for your bumper edition of BISONs, Finns.

    by Gorgeous Dunny on Mar 6, 2012 at 3:44 pm

  35. Any news on the levee in Wagga? Sounds like an absolute disaster if it is breached.

    by Diogenes on Mar 6, 2012 at 3:50 pm

  36. who did the Herald-Sun have to give their expert interpretation? None other than Andrew Bolt and Terry McCrann.

    I remember the OO published a couple of McCrann articles about the NBN and climate change.

    Suffice to say, he should stick to interest rates soothsaying.

    by confessions on Mar 6, 2012 at 3:52 pm

  37. I once posted on here, about 3 years ago I think an e-mail I received back from McCrann. He basically said he wasn’t an economist. Amen to that.

    by Gary on Mar 6, 2012 at 3:54 pm

  38. After reading Mr McCrann’s opinion of the NBN in an OO article last Saturday I feel much more confident about the success of the NBN :lol:

    the NBN, stands as the most irresponsible and reckless spending program ever embarked upon by an Australian government,

    by poroti on Mar 6, 2012 at 3:58 pm

  39. poroti @887,

    After reading Mr McCrann’s opinion of the NBN in an OO article last Saturday I feel much more confident about the success of the NBN

    That article was so full of shit I pissed myself laughing..

    The only thing the government can now do, has to do, is to walk the NBN back from pervasive fibre to the premise and halve its cost. And perhaps redirect some of the money to its own mobile network.

    A perfect example of how if you start to believe your own bullshit you end up writing a parody of yourself.

    by cud chewer on Mar 6, 2012 at 4:07 pm

  40. PaulBongiorno
    The optics of Gillard with business leaders in the wake of the Swan attack on billionaires fascinating politics. Driving some people mad!
    6/03/12 3:56 PM

    by victoria on Mar 6, 2012 at 4:10 pm

  41. the NBN, stands as the most irresponsible and reckless spending program ever embarked upon by an Australian government,

    Err, the most irresponsible and reckless spending program ever embarked upon by an Australian government was from the $326 Billion windfall income from Mining Boom Mk1 that howard wasted buying votes – that would have built almost 10 NBN’s !

    In addition it could have completed the Pacific Highway redevelopment, built more roads throughout the country, built hospitals, schools, tech colleges, trained more doctors, nurses, teachers, put more people through University.

    But howard gave it away instead, apart from $20 Billion that costello stuck into the future fund otherwise howard would have spent that too.

    Remember that, Terry McCrann?

    by dave on Mar 6, 2012 at 4:10 pm

  42. Good grief

    Stephen Spencer
    @sspencer_63
    The Wagga equation: levee 11 metres, predicted flood height 10.8 metres. 20cm higher and most of the town goes under 2 storeys of water.

    by victoria on Mar 6, 2012 at 4:12 pm

  43. Jonathon Holmes on Media Watch last night sinks a well merited boot into the Canberra Press gaggle – if you haven’t already seen this, check it out:

    http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/

    Grattan, Coorey and especially Shanahan come in for some much deserved attention, and the wry smile of Mr Holmes is very much in evidence as he shows us what these alleged ‘professional’ journalists really are – hacks and pretenders.

    I loved the references to ‘the observer effect,’ often noted amongst PBers when commenting on Shanahan’s increasing predilection for intruding himself into a story in an ego-driven desire to be a player as his influence (and the influence of the print media in general) declines over time.

    Retirement beckons for most of these fading practitioners of a dying profession, and can’t come soon enough for the dementing drongos in Mr Holmes’ sights last night.

    by The Big Ship on Mar 6, 2012 at 4:17 pm

  44. I remember a school geography trip to Wagga Wagga. About 1971 We got to interview the Mayor about the fate of North Wagga, the study was about leaving areas uninhabited due to floods.

    I remember the Mayor saying North Wagga will never be allowed to have dwellings on it after the recent floods.

    I wonder what happened?

    by ruawake on Mar 6, 2012 at 4:26 pm

  45. For anyone interested following is finally an ABC reply to a complaint made last year re ABC/IPA although the specific example was not addressed -

    Thank you for your email to 774 ABC Local Radio. I apologise for the delay in my response.
    The ABC Editorial Policy States that the ABC is to present a diversity of perspectives so that, over time, no significant strand of thought or belief within the community is knowingly excluded or disproportionately represented. It is the ABC's responsibility to include multiple voices and perspectives in critical policy debates and to that end the Institute of Public Affairs (IPA) representatives are a welcome contributor.
    The Jon Faine weekly segment 'The Wrap' is an opportunity to discuss the major stories of the week from the perspective of the left and the right. It is the ABC's responsibility to include multiple voices and perspectives on various topics with Jon Faine acting as a moderator between the two.

    The IPA represents largely conservative perspectives and is thought to be funded by big businesses. Presenter Jon Faine regularly highlights these influences and while the names of the specific sponsors are not disclosed, we believe the agenda of this organisation and its supporters would be clearly self-evident to the 774 Mornings audience.

    IPA are similar to other think tanks who derive funding from a range of sources irrespective of 'membership' and like those other groups are asked to comment on areas of interest to our listeners.

    by Dr John on Mar 6, 2012 at 4:30 pm

  46. The Big Ship

    It was indeed a much deserved swipe. I would have loved to have been in the room when JG and BCarr walked into that press conference last Friday. It would have been a sight to behold!!

    by victoria on Mar 6, 2012 at 4:30 pm

  47. The optics of Gillard with business leaders in the wake of the Swan attack on billionaires fascinating politics. Driving some people mad!

    Some tiny minds being played with.

    by This little black duck on Mar 6, 2012 at 4:33 pm

  48. Remember that, Terry McCrann?

    McCrann has the most preposterous pic of any columnist in the country. Discuss.

    by lefty e on Mar 6, 2012 at 4:33 pm

  49. Driving some people mad!

    It’s running interference on the ‘ANTI BUSINESS LABOR!!!’ narrative they’d prefer to be running with.

    by confessions on Mar 6, 2012 at 4:37 pm

  50. Bob Carr presser.

    People are shouting in the background (hecklink?). Anyone know who they are and what their problem is?

    by confessions on Mar 6, 2012 at 4:39 pm

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