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Newspoll: 57-43 to Coalition

A bad result for the government in the latest fortnightly Newspoll, with the Coalition’s two-party lead out from 54-46 to 57-43. The primary votes are 28 per cent for Labor (down three) and 47 per cent for the Coalition (up four). Julia Gillard at least has the consolation that her personal ratings have improved from the previous fortnight’s dismal result, with her approval up three to 31 per cent and disapproval down four to 58 per cent. Tony Abbott’s ratings are unchanged at 32 per cent approval and 58 per cent disapproval, and there is likewise essentially no change on preferred prime minister (Gillard leads 40-37, up from 39-37).

Another consolation for Labor is the possibility that a bit of static might be expected from a poll conducted over the same weekend as a state election such as the one in Queensland. They can be fortified in this view by the fact that their standing improved in this week’s Essential Research poll, the most recent weekly component of which was conducted over a longer period than Newspoll (Wednesday to Sunday rather than Friday to Sunday). Very unusually, given that Essential is a two-week rolling average, this showed a two-point shift on two-party preferred, with the Coalition lead shrinking from 56-44 to 54-46. Given that Essential spiked to 57-43 a fortnight ago, and the sample which sent it there has now washed out of the rolling average, this is not entirely surprising. Labor’s primary vote is up two to 34 per cent, and the Coalition’s is down one to 47 per cent. Further questions featured in the poll cover the economy, its prospects, best party to handle it and personal financial situation (slightly more optimism than six months ago, and Labor up in line with its overall improvement since then), job security, Kony 2012, taking sickies and the impact of the high dollar.

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  1. OPT @1394: absolutely re Downfall version . Anyone here know how to make one?

    by Marrickville Mauler on Mar 28, 2012 at 11:28 am

  2. Boerwar

    I suspect Stutchbury jumped ship because he knew what was coming!

    by victoria on Mar 28, 2012 at 11:29 am

  3. OO and Aunty are joined at the hip, Boerwar.

    by joe2 on Mar 28, 2012 at 11:29 am

  4. The richest irony about all this News Ltd Piracy story from the AFR today is that one James Murdoch once said this;

    Yet it is essential for the future of independent digital journalism that a fair price can be charged for news to people who value it.

    — Edinburgh International Television Festival MacTaggart Lecture delivered by James Murdoch, 28th August, 2009

    http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/s2718294.htm

    But hacking a competitor then putting the hacking details on-line so punters can pirate one’s competitors product for free? Well that’s OK apparently? Fine and dandy in Murdoch-land?

    In fact you then ride in over the former destroyed competitors share holders detritus and then buy the destroyed competitor for SFA apparently. As Smithe said before – even the Mafia/Cosa Nostra could learn from this lot if this all stacks up.

    Hypocrisy thy name is Murdoch? They are an ethics free zone? Totally morally bankrupt?

    by grantplant on Mar 28, 2012 at 11:31 am

  5. Murdoch/News Ltd piracy story is the lead i]at the SMH web site at the moment;

    http://www.smh.com.au/business/pay-tv-piracy-hits-murdoch-20120328-1vxfw.html

    by grantplant on Mar 28, 2012 at 11:33 am

  6. Grantplant,

    Goes with the right-wingedness.

    by Cuppa on Mar 28, 2012 at 11:33 am

  7. Good Morning, Bludgers!

    Newman is busy decapitating Public Service deparment heads and cutting back services. Just another day in paradise!

    Can’t wait till he starts getting serious. :cry:

    by Space Kidette on Mar 28, 2012 at 11:34 am

  8. what would it take for the govt to announce a Royal Commission?

    by victoria on Mar 28, 2012 at 11:34 am

  9. smith @ 1367

    Don’t bother wth whizzy TB.

    I know – I’m just having a bit of fun playing devil’s advocate. Give someone nothing to lose and they might end up biting you.
    No doubt Bligh’s husband (who I know nothing about btw) is too honest and diligent to consider what I suggested but it’s probably what can-do deserves.

    by Think Big on Mar 28, 2012 at 11:36 am

  10. The Australian continues its recent run of reporting climate change stuff more or less reasonably.
    The latest article in ‘Bleak city reputation to go as rain dries up.’ It is a report on the report of the Victorian state government on what is going to happen in Victoria as emissions go up. Straight down the line, although the subbie is apparently supping from the glass half full.
    But, ‘The Australian’ still feels it is necessary to give the Greens a passing and rather unfair kick in the pants.
    I believe that makes five, maybe six articles by The Australian in a row which does not attack AGW climate science. I checked the Deltoid site and there have been no new entries there, either.

    This can’t be an accident. It just has to reflect a change in editorial policy on AGW reporting. IMHO, The Australian owes its readers an explanation for this sea change. Why has it stopped supporting deniers? Why has it stopped undermining global scientific orthodoxy by cherry picking, snarking, and giving space to AGW science kook fringsters?

    by Boerwar on Mar 28, 2012 at 11:36 am

  11. The fact that these individuals have gone out of their way to trash brand government is going to bite them in their collective bums.

    In conjunction with the Lizard People at News Ltd. newspapers, and the shock jocks (particularly at 2GB), they have created a Frankenstein’s Monster.

    Some highlights…

    * Abbott started the ball rolling during the Republic Referendum campaign by telling the punters that they couldn’t trust a politician to appoint a President (although, concerning Governors-General, this was exactly what has always happened since Federation).

    * An obscure but recent article in the DT attacking police men and women in NSW who were on permanent sick and stress leave due to workplace incidents (shootings, stabbings, bashings, emotional distress after viewing horrendous crime scenes etc.). They were going to cost Barry O’Farrell $900 million in compensation to get rid of. The Rent-a-Whinge comment crowd went to town on the boys in blue, with one of them advising coppers to “get a real job, running a small business {like she did} and then see what stress was really like…”. I’ve always been convinced this was a barometer article, to see whether the usually police-friendly mob that comments at the DT could be turned against anything, even their heroes. It worked. However, police stories are ‘back on the beat’ now, but it was an interesting experiment.

    * Numerous “Peter ‘The Rat’ Slipper” articles and illustrations, complete with wig, gown, whiskers, pointy ears and long rat’s tail… front page. Another nasty Slipper story today.

    * Constant, relentless, unceasingly vicious references to “clowns”, “bozos”, “ratbags” in the government, and anyone who is seen to support them e.g. Tim Flannery, Peter Slipper, Oakeshotte, Windsor, on 2GB, righ down to the minutae.

    * Anything to do with Craig Thomson, whether or not it involves trashing the reputations of the FWA or the AFP. Similar trashings of Treasury, Environment and other government departments are par for the course.

    News Ltd., 2GB (and syndicated stations) and the Coalition did this, in my opinion, in order to “soften up” the government for an early 2011 election, which has not occurred.

    To keep up the pressure they have continued the onslaught. The result has been a general loss of confidence and optimism in the minds of many voters and citizens. Like Boerwar I agree that it’s a two-edged sword and can be just as easily used against the Tories as it is against Labor.

    The only winners in any of this are the shock-jock stations, and to a much more significant degree, News Ltd.

    News Ltd. is destroying Australia so that it can be rebuilt in the image that Murdoch has for it. They are white-anting governance itself, with a view to substitution their particularly malignant form of corporatism. It’s a take over bid, pure and simple.

    VERY much like what they have done to their Pay TV competitors: trash the brand and the cashflow with dirty tricks, then move in for the kill.

    by Bushfire Bill on Mar 28, 2012 at 11:36 am

  12. Poroti there may be other ways to fund the infrastructure part of the equation or it could be recovered over a longer timeframe. I doubt Newman will agree to a 40pc increase.

    Significant additional long term debt perhaps?
    Oh, but that’s bad!

    by BK on Mar 28, 2012 at 11:37 am

  13. DavidWH,
    “Newman on the ABC this morning sent a pretty clear message that electricity prices won’t be going up 50pc regardless of what the interim report recommends.”

    I made exactly the same point as you yesterday and I am diagonally opposite you politically. Yet I got accused of being all sorts of low life conservative. Oh dear! And it got me banned from Frank’s even though I didn’t – and don’t – post anything there. Think I’m in pretty good company on that one. While I would be over the moon if someone like Newman would be stupid enough to raise costs by 50% in one hit – ever, it was never a possibility. Making wild, unsubstantiated claims followed up by the sort of abuse Ruawake is capable of (although he would need to be very, very careful doing that to my face) doesn’t achieve anything.

    While I don’t think the cretinous Ruawake is likely to be cranking back on this ridiculous 50% claim, I think the first Newman meltdown can’t be that far off. While the allegations against him didn’t get very far, you can bet your bottom dollar there was some substance somewhere and it will find it’s way to the surface at some point.

    by Roy Orbison on Mar 28, 2012 at 11:37 am

  14. ‘The Australian’ still does not have the story. What are they afraid of?

    by Boerwar on Mar 28, 2012 at 11:38 am

  15. PaulBongiorno The Liberal premiers are busy dismantling expensive green direct action projects. A precedent for Tony?
    7 minutes ago

    Well its great timing by state libs. The following is Kohlers take of developments around the world on climate change action and how Australia fits in.

    Sorry for the long article but it requires (free) registration to access otherwise.

    Australia’s crushing climate trap

    Alan Kohler

    Published 7:37 AM, 28 Mar 2012 Last update 7:37 AM, 28 Mar 2012

    Australia will have to increase its greenhouse gas reduction target from the current 5 per cent by 2020, to at least 15 per cent within two years under the policies of both the ALP and the Coalition.

    That’s because the conditions for doing that look like being met. Remember… the government’s reduction target is 5 per cent below 2000 levels unilateral, and 15 per cent if “major developing economies commit to substantially restrain emissions and advanced economies take on commitments comparable to Australia’s”.

    The Opposition has signed up to both the 5 per cent and 15 per cent targets, although it hasn’t mentioned the second one for a while.

    It’s clear that science is beginning to reassert itself on this subject after a few years on the sidelines following the debacle in Copenhagen in 2009.

    Current advanced country pledges already suggest a 10-20 per cent reduction from 1990 levels by 2020. China has imposed quotas on carbon emissions and is likely to have an emissions trading scheme in place by 2015; it already has them in nine provinces. The action being taken by other developing countries is already sufficient for a 15 per cent reduction in Australia.

    The idea that Australia is leading the world on climate change is quickly becoming untrue. Moreover the delays caused by the 2009/10 political convulsions, which saw both the opposition leader and the prime minister sacked over climate change, will mean Australia ends up paying a much higher price than it would have.

    The recommendation on Australia’s target will come from the Climate Change Authority, to be chaired by former Reserve Bank governor and industry super champion, Bernie Fraser.

    Even the 5 per cent reduction from 2000 levels is starting to look nearly impossible given the increase in emissions since the target was set; 15 per cent would represent a crushing burden for Australia’s businesses.

    Australia’s carbon emissions are already 5 per cent above 2000 levels. At the current rate of increase, they will be 23 per cent above the 2000 level by 2020, or 690 million tones of CO2 equivalent.

    That means the 5 per cent reduction target to which both parties have committed is already a 23 per cent, or 160 million tonne reduction from business as usual. Reducing by 15 per cent from 2000 – which looks like being the target – means we would have to cut emission by one-third from BAU.

    If that were achieved by cuts in Australian emissions, it would need a carbon price in the hundreds of dollars, or direct action that would bankrupt the Government.

    As things stand the tax of $23 per tonne will stand for three years to be replaced by emissions trading in 2015. Despite the obvious concerns about it from business and the community generally, the carbon tax won’t actually do much to reduce carbon emissions because of the compensation and offsets that have been promised.

    The impact of the target will only start in 2015, when it will determine the number of permits emitting businesses will have to buy.

    It’s possible that a new Coalition government will dismantle the whole thing next year, but that would be a Humphreyan courageous decision: first the rest of the world clearly is taking action to reduce emissions, so that if Australia just dropped out of the project and dropped its targets the cost would be very high; and second, if the Coalition tried to use its “direct action” plan to meet the targets, the cost to the budget would be horrendous.

    That is especially true on both counts if the target is 15 per cent by then. If the world is doing enough to justify a 15 per cent target according to Bernie Fraser’s CCA, which it almost certainly will be, then the Coalition could hardly dump Australia’s targets altogether. “Direct action” to meet even a 5 per cent target is unaffordable; 15 per cent is laughable.

    Emissions trading is the cheapest way to reduce carbon emissions because businesses can buy permits from overseas. At the moment European permits cost less than $15 per tonne and certificates from the Clean Development Mechanism, which will qualify as Australian permits, cost around $5 each.

    On that basis the cost to Australian businesses will immediately fall to the floor price of $15 a tonne when emissions trading starts in 2015.

    At that price, the cost of meeting the 5 per cent reduction target would be $2.4 billion in total. A 15 per cent target would cost $3.2 billion.

    But the question is whether Australia can or should meet its emissions target simply by buying permits from overseas. It’s true that climate change is global not national, so it doesn’t really matter where a tonne of carbon is removed, but would it be acceptable politically, here and overseas, for Australia not to actually reduce its emissions and simply pay other countries to do it?

    This is a question that is exercising the minds of the policymakers in Canberra now – how to pitch Australia’s scheme so that the targets are met without crushing our industries but without, in effect, simply buying and preserving forests in Borneo while continuing to produce most electricity from coal.

    By the way, most of the increase in carbon emissions between now and 2020 will come from export energy projects, principally coal, coal seam gas and LNG, as well as some from transport and industry direct combustion – almost none of it from electricity generation.

    In effect it’s a double whammy from the resources boom: a high dollar plus a larger climate change burden.

    http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Article/carbon-tax-climate-change-greenhouse-gas-reduction-pd20120328-SSRLW?OpenDocument&src=mp

    by dave on Mar 28, 2012 at 11:38 am

  16. Poroti over what period is the NBN infrastructure cost being recovered? I dont think the capital cost is being recovered in proposed pricing models.

    It’s worth reading the QCA web site from the link I provided yesterday. The Bligh government set this situation up and I agree it will be a real test for Newman how he handles the situation. He may end up surprising you.

    by DavidWH on Mar 28, 2012 at 11:39 am

  17. BB @ 1410

    I would add the trashing of government insitutions such as Treasury as being a serious component of trashing brand government.

    by Boerwar on Mar 28, 2012 at 11:40 am

  18. Someone quite senior in the Fin this morning wrote that the US may get around to imposing a carbon tax to balance the increasingly parlous state of their books. The carbon abatement would be incidental!

    by Boerwar on Mar 28, 2012 at 11:42 am

  19. Roy I appreciated your comments yesterday. Newman will have his good days and bad days however it’s what he achieves overall that counts in the end.

    by DavidWH on Mar 28, 2012 at 11:42 am

  20. dave

    It’s possible that a new Coalition government will dismantle the whole thing next year, but that would be a Humphreyan courageous decision: first the rest of the world clearly is taking action to reduce emissions, so that if Australia just dropped out of the project and dropped its targets the cost would be very high; and second, if the Coalition tried to use its “direct action” plan to meet the targets, the cost to the budget would be horrendous.

    Somewhere amongst Mr Abbott’s many and varied statements on Opposition climate policy are wtte that the cost of the DAP will not be increased. In other words the target is no 5%/2020 but to spend the DAP allocation!

    So Mr Kohler’s assertion is based on the false premise that the Coalition is serious about 5% by 2020.

    by Boerwar on Mar 28, 2012 at 11:44 am

  21. Don’t bother wth whizzy TB.

    he’s just come around to pull a few wings off flies

    Sooner or later, prob (based on ‘previous’) the former, he’ll be sent back to his tinnie & try to return with another ID.

    by OzPol Tragic on Mar 28, 2012 at 11:45 am

  22. Boerwar @ 1413;

    ‘The Australian’ still does not have the story. What are they afraid of?

    The truth? :-)

    by grantplant on Mar 28, 2012 at 11:46 am

  23. Well, ‘The Australian’ must be on the move. It has added a story on ‘Father sues school over child’s Afro’ to its list of breaking news.

    Still not that other stuff, but.

    by Boerwar on Mar 28, 2012 at 11:46 am

  24. I confidently expect all the shock jocks, smart-arse commentariat, SkyNews ‘journos’ and political hucksters to get themselves into a rightieous froth over the lack of any process for Mr Newman to appoint his cronies.

    Remember all the lather when Ms Gillard appointed Mr Gonski.

    How about some goose/gander?

    by Boerwar on Mar 28, 2012 at 11:51 am

  25. Newman may be tempted to do a Labor payback. After all when Goss came in ALL the senior staff were put in a tin shed and told to cut out newspaper clippings until they go fed up and resigned – at least that is the story.

    Sound like he trying NOT to be seen to do that – mind you they are all on contracts now.- Easy to remove over time.

    by daretotread on Mar 28, 2012 at 11:52 am

  26. @DavidWH

    I don’t think there is a set term being recovered, but the expected return rate is 7%.

    &

    The Construction is for 10 Years
    The Telstra Deal is for 30 Years

    by zoidlord on Mar 28, 2012 at 11:52 am

  27. SK

    The people of Qld have spoken. good luck!

    by victoria on Mar 28, 2012 at 11:53 am

  28. dave

    re Bongiornos tweet:
    The excuse of Baillieu (and possibly the others?) is that if the Feds are looking after climate, no need for the states to do anything.
    Apart from the whacky logic of this, if Tone abandons pricing carbon federally, we’ve bombed.

    by lizzie on Mar 28, 2012 at 11:53 am

  29. My bet is I will get no response..

    Mark Scott ‏ @abcmarkscott · Open
    Huge AFR coverage of News Corp/payTV piracy story, including the release of thousands of emails for crowd sourcing http://bit.ly/Hg5vyf

    Joe2 ‏ @eatatjoe2 Close
    @abcmarkscott why then is ABC News totally neglecting coverage of this enormously important local matter, sir?

    by joe2 on Mar 28, 2012 at 11:54 am

  30. And it got me banned from Frank’s even though I didn’t – and don’t – post anything there. Think I’m in pretty good company on that one.

    Welcome to the Frankly Banned Club, Roy. I was also banned for something written here. There’s a real early-Bolshevik atmosphere at A Frank View, which is disappointing… what with secret committees of faceless invigilators, cyber death warrants being issued in absentia, firing squads lining traitors up against the wall come the Revolution, and all the sloganeering and hectoring.

    They don’t seem to realise that hackery of the sort they practice turns people off to their cause, not on to it, especially if the target is only loosely attached in the first place. I’m pretty rusted on, so I’m immune to it, but others may not be so.

    I’m sure their counter to this would be that doubters such as yourself, myself and the rest of The Banned would only pollute the purity of Frankenism anyway, so we’re no loss at all. Our crime? Criticising a Glorious Commissar. Only True Revolutionaries, indoctrinated in the ways of the latest encyclical from Party Central are wanted at Frank’s (making “Bilbo” and “Man-Boy” snarks is always looked on favourably too).

    You end up with half a dozen cowering Commentchiks too scared to say anything for fear of being taken out into the yard and put down like the running dogs they are.

    It’s a hell of a business model. YThe Survivors comprise a pure, undiluted kernel, true, but too tiny to have any effect on anything. Quite cultist, actually.

    by Bushfire Bill on Mar 28, 2012 at 11:55 am

  31. TheKouk My Latest: The RBA will deliver the February interest rate cut in April stephenkoukoulas

    http://stephenkoukoulas.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/rba-to-deliver-february-interest-rate.html

    by victoria on Mar 28, 2012 at 11:55 am

  32. BB @ 1410

    I would add the trashing of government insitutions such as Treasury as being a serious component of trashing brand government.

    That was in there somewhere between the FWA and the Dept. of Environment, I think.

    by Bushfire Bill on Mar 28, 2012 at 11:57 am

  33. This stuff makes an absolute mockery of the internal investigation carried out in Australia. The reaonsable conclusion was that it was a white-wash effort. Time for a real, independent, robust investigation covered by Royal Commission powers.

    After all, if the allegations are true, we have an illegal organisation aimed at removing democratically governments.

    The issues here are not simply commerical issues. They go to the heart of our democracy.

    by Boerwar on Mar 28, 2012 at 11:59 am

  34. Boerwar 1423 this may make you feel better

    Newman’s LNP pals named for plum posts
    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/lnp-pals-named-for-plum-posts/story-fnbt5t29-1226311869898

    Also you may find this interesting

    .State Election 2012
    Former Queensland premier Anna Bligh ups anchor to maintain her wage
    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/bligh-ups-anchor-to-maintain-her-wage/story-fnbt5t29-1226311853282

    These things cut both ways.

    by DavidWH on Mar 28, 2012 at 12:00 pm

  35. BB

    * Anything to do with Craig Thomson, whether or not it involves trashing the reputations of the FWA or the AFP.

    The Coalition have behaved in the manner you’d expect them to in regard to Craig Thomson – badly. They could have kept questioning the time taken without the individual attacks but then I guess with Brandis and EricA at it you get what you get.

    When the matters finished I’d expect the FWA would be expecting the broom to be put through them whatever party is in government – the time this has taken to be finalised is just not good enough by a long shot.

    by CTar1 on Mar 28, 2012 at 12:01 pm

  36. grantplant
    Posted Wednesday, March 28, 2012 at 11:21 am | Permalink
    Smithe @ 1373;

    I think we may have been in the same game once upon a time

    I notice all I got from gee Whiz to the Q about constructive dismissal was……… crickets………….

    Yes. It’s this classic 19th century master-Servant stuff the Tories like getting their rocks-off on. “Me-master…you-servant. When I say jump. You say how high. Savvy?”

    All well and good in Dickens’ time but times have moved-on a bit.

    Courts and IR quasi-judicial bodies now also look at things from the Servant’s side as well. Actually, they’ve been doing so for quite a while now and the poor old Tories just haven’t been able to get their tiny heads around it.

    Many an unreasonable employer will want to get rid of someone they regard as a ‘difficult employee’. These are often just people who stand up for their rights in the workplace. We all know examples. They could be anyone from a person who asks why he of she has to jump at all in order to fulfull the duties attached to their job description (which says nothing about acrobatics, but quite a lot about competent and efficient Engineering Drafting); Or why he or she can’t join a union at that workplace; Or why the Bosses’ boots need to be licked each and every morning-rather than just every second morning; Or why she has to perform demeaning duties like clean the bosses’ sink and toilet daily when she’s employed as an Engineer and not an office cleaner and she’s the only female engineer in the office to boot.

    What many such Neanderthal employers fail to take into account is that what they might see as perfectly reasonable conduct will often be seen as bullying or victimisation of a pretty awful kind by a Court or Commission.

    And when their cruddy conduct finally breaks the employee and forces him or her to resign in disgust, they’re amazed when Courts have no trouble at all in seeing things for what they really are: A constructive dismissal, a worker being forced out by the conduct of an Employer.

    It’s a right head-spinner for a Tory.

    by smithe on Mar 28, 2012 at 12:02 pm

  37. zoidlord I understand that but the government has the final say on over what timeframe they recover capital costs. This is basically what Newman has promised to do with water infrastructure cost recovery to lessen the pain for consumers. It looks like he will have to do something similar with the power infrastructure.

    by DavidWH on Mar 28, 2012 at 12:02 pm

  38. Scott’s ABC website http://www.abc.net.au/news/justin/ should be renamed http://www.abc.net.au/news/justignored/

    by BK on Mar 28, 2012 at 12:03 pm

  39. Boerwar

    Hartigan did an internal investigation. Announced that News in Australia was squeaky clean and then he was given his marching orders

    by victoria on Mar 28, 2012 at 12:03 pm

  40. BK

    Touche

    by victoria on Mar 28, 2012 at 12:03 pm

  41. Now if SeweRoo (glad you people are taking to the nick i gave him) knew in advance that his chickens were about to return home, and they would be the size of emus and were about to kick his shithouse down, then he would probably have got rid of Mr (we’re cleanskins) Hartigan.

    Especially after he had just delivered a huge verbal spray to the Mr Finkelstein.

    But then maybe Mr Hartigan was not aware that SeweRoo was busy undermining his competitors here in Oz.

    I wonder what Mr Hartigan would have to say now in light of the AFR revelations about his master.

    I guess nothing as myrmidons are always Myrmidons and they usually receive a severance payment that entitles them to shut their gobs.

    Mr Finkelstein politely asked his interlocutors if they had anything to say before he proceeded to questions. They certainly did. And then John Hartigan, chief executive and chairman of News Ltd (at least for another couple of weeks), let fly.

    It is "widely accepted", he announced, "that we are here in response to three presumptions".

    First, that News Ltd is guilty of phone-hacking; second, that News Ltd is waging a campaign against the Federal Government; and third, that the Australian Press Council (APC) is a toothless tiger. All three presumptions are false, declared Harto, "and yet here we are".

    The Federal Government has labelled News Ltd "the hate media", he continued, and accused News Ltd of campaigning for regime change. This allegation, he added belligerently, and perhaps with less than meticulous constitutional accuracy, comes from people who have themselves engineered regime change by removing an 'elected' prime minister from office.

    News Ltd had just concluded an extensive review of its expenses, declared Hartigan. The result, as he expected, had been to prove that "we do not hack phones and we do not pay bribes". There's been a deathly silence from News Ltd's critics, he remarked. "They haven't put up, and now they've had to shut up".

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-11-18/holmes-winners-all-round-as-news-ltd-face-media-inquiry/3678792

    by Gaffhook on Mar 28, 2012 at 12:05 pm

  42. Do people get banned elsewhere for what they write here? Classic :)

    No point me trying to join up.

    by DavidWH on Mar 28, 2012 at 12:06 pm

  43. Joe2
    Posted Wednesday, March 28, 2012 at 11:54 am | Permalink
    My bet is I will get no response..

    Mark Scott ‏ @abcmarkscott · Open
    Huge AFR coverage of News Corp/payTV piracy story, including the release of thousands of emails for crowd sourcing http://bit.ly/Hg5vyf

    Joe2 ‏ @eatatjoe2 Close
    @abcmarkscott why then is ABC News totally neglecting coverage of this enormously important local matter, sir?]

    I know I am not Mark Scott(thank heavens) but I replied to you Joe

    by mari on Mar 28, 2012 at 12:06 pm

  44. Gasp!

    In breaking national news on The Australian’s web site there is an important breaking story. About a bloke who secretly filmed his female co-workers.

    by Boerwar on Mar 28, 2012 at 12:08 pm

  45. On the basis that QLD Labor needs all the support it can get at the moment, I have just posted my application for membership of the South Brisbane branch. I do hope I can offer some assistance to what may be a long and difficult rebuilding process. And on the other hand if Campbell very quickly blows his own feet off (as I suspect he is utterley capable of) I would like a front row seat at the hanging.

    by Boinzo on Mar 28, 2012 at 12:08 pm

  46. v

    Hartigan did an internal investigation. Announced that News in Australia was squeaky clean and then he was given his marching orders

    It is all good.

    by Boerwar on Mar 28, 2012 at 12:09 pm

  47. I suspect some severe introspection is occurring at the OO at the moment.

    by BK on Mar 28, 2012 at 12:09 pm

  48. DavidWH

    The plan with the NBN is to funnel expected returns back into the extension of the network – which effectively means that it will fund itself.

    Haven’t had the time to look for you, but the NBN site answers questions like that and is fairly easy to navigate.

    by zoomster on Mar 28, 2012 at 12:09 pm

  49. Boinzo

    Well done. :)

    by victoria on Mar 28, 2012 at 12:11 pm

  50. SkyNews still agog at the drones story. What about the internal hunter killer drones firing hellfire missiles at commercial integrity and political processes?

    De nada.

    by Boerwar on Mar 28, 2012 at 12:12 pm

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