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Morgan face-to-face: 57.5-42.5 to Coalition

More opinion poll carnage for Labor, this time from Morgan’s face-to-face survey of 951 lucky respondents last weekend. The headline two-party figure is 57.5-42.5, a return to the worst lows of last year. As was the case on those occasions, Labor’s deteriorating primary vote position has been accompanied by a further sag in their already weak share of minor party preferences, which as I have said many times is not what I expect to happen at the election – and indeed, it was again directly contradicted this week by Nielsen, whose respondent-allocated preference result of 56-44 suggested Labor’s preference share was about 70% compared with the 45% currently suggested by Morgan. Using the previous-election method of distributing preferences, Morgan offers a much milder figure of 53.5-46.5. Accounting for the consistent Labor lean in Morgan’s face-to-face polling, the primary vote figures are consistent with the impression from Newspoll and Nielsen: Labor on 32%, the Coalition on 44.5% and the Greens on 13%.

Plentiful preselection action:

• Barnaby Joyce has confirmed he will seek preselection for Bruce Scott’s outback Queensland seat of Maranoa, presumably in pursuit of the party leadership and deputy prime ministership. Scott, who is 69, is yet to make his intentions clear. The party’s current leader, Warren Truss, tells The Australian he will back Scott in any contest between the two, on the basis that “members are entitled to the loyalty of their leader”.

• Unions Tasmania state secretary Kevin Harkins has indicated he is still interested in a Labor parliamentary berth, after being dumped as candidate for Franklin in 2007 and frozen out for Senate preselection in 2010. The guiding hand on each occasion was Kevin Rudd, whose identification of Harkins as a totem of union ratbaggery never entirely added up. A fortnight ago, The Australian reported Rudd had been heard admitting he had confused Harkins with Kevin Reynolds, Western Australian CFMEU colossus and truly the “well-known pugilist” of Rudd’s description. Rudd insisted it was “incorrect to claim that his decision to not support Mr Harkins in 2010 was based on any confusion with Kevin Reynolds”, but Australian Mines and Metals Association chief executive Steve Knott has told The Australian: “Everyone in the IR community and up in Canberra knew that Rudd had mixed up the two Kevins. The problem for Harkins and his political ambitions was Rudd hating to be wrong.” It is now anticipated that Harkins will seek to fill the Senate vacancy to be created at the next election by the retirement of Nick Sherry. Matthew Denholm of The Australian reports a Left-backed push by Harkins would “force sitting Right faction senator Catryna Bilyk to the highly vulnerable No 3 position, potentially sparking a factional brawl”.

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  1. @my say/748

    Either that or to drive attention away from Coalition failed policy making…. And Mistakes…

    by zoidlord on Apr 6, 2012 at 3:04 pm

  2. GeeWizz @# 710

    ”Danny Lewis it will if Labor try and stop it from being listed on invoices.”

    Either GeeWizz is being deliberately disingenuous or he has a very serious short term memory problem. Gillard is very supportive of electricity generators putting the amount of the Carbon Price on our electricity bills. However, they better be spot on for there are very severe penalties for those who overstate the carbon price attributable to any transaction.

    One can understand Gillard’s attitude to this as it will clearly demonstrate to the likes of GeeWizz how silly he/she has been in claiming the sky will fall in because of the impact that the carbon price will have.

    by Ratsars on Apr 6, 2012 at 3:18 pm

  3. (ve been idly wondering why the Business Council of Australia (BCA) and the Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry (ACCI) had been sucking up to the Federal Government (and not looking very happy about it!).

    G D? Dont quite understand. Woul you mind explaining, does the business community , want a new airport or not. I saw a news conf.’with a. Albanese about months ago, wtte sydney airport delays,
    Would soon have a very bad time delay on other capital cities

    by my say on Apr 6, 2012 at 3:20 pm

  4. GW – I’m breaking my own self-imposed rule not to get involved in your mainly, one dimensional tripe.

    The point of my comment was not to emphasize/ask what the fuel excise is/was but to make the point that it is never shown at the pump.

    You seem to go on and on about the Carbon Tax and where it should be shown so I was making the simple point (or a point for simpletons) that there are many, many items the consumer purchases where the tax component, either federal or state is know shown and is know widely known.

    I think you mentioned once you had never been to Canberra and never wanted to go. Seems to suggest your willingness to leave Queensland is about as powerful as your ability to recognise subtlety when you see it.

    But then, you are a conservative so why I am surprised.

    As it turned out your figure for the excise was wrong anyway. Pots, kettles and all that stuff.

    I read your rubbish as you are a good weather vane for what naive conservatives as thinking and thereby you have value. You also serve to show why most thinking people here do not take what you say seriously.

    by Tricot on Apr 6, 2012 at 3:21 pm

  5. guytaur
    Posted Friday, April 6, 2012 at 2:34 pm | Permalink

    Ian and CTar!

    Have to agree with you on the worth of the papers. Pity shareholders do not seem to.

    The shareholders would be valuing physical assets etc. They, like any thinking entity, would ascribe a value of nothing to the intellectual capacity of the News Ltd workforce. As do I.

    by Ian on Apr 6, 2012 at 3:22 pm

  6. The building that use to hold the mercury is up for sale, its heritage listed, i do hope it ends up being a hotel,
    The mercury have moved to mh smaller premises, i will try to find a photo for u

    by my say on Apr 6, 2012 at 3:28 pm

  7. Isn’t the point that GST is not only charged per transaction, but retailers (especially mixed foods) must keep recording that to lodge a BAS?

    Does anyone take heed of GST otherwise? Apart from an occasional reminder that for her sins Meg Lees kept fresh food cheaper.

    I only notice its absence: tax dodging tradies offering cash work with no GST. When I say ‘no thanks, my uni wage is 55% tax funded’ they frown their eyebrows off. So I’ve taken to saying ‘I do law’ then they back pedal as if afraid of being dobbed.

    by Graeme Orr on Apr 6, 2012 at 3:28 pm

  8. http://www.flickr.com/photos/36529448@N07/4164417362/

    Mercury

    by my say on Apr 6, 2012 at 3:35 pm

  9. my say

    One thing you can say for Hobart. It is a city that seems to find good uses for heritage buildings instead of tearing them down.

    by guytaur on Apr 6, 2012 at 3:36 pm

  10. @guytaur/@758

    That’s what happens in alot of places overseas, instead of tearing it down, they use them as hotels or tour guides.

    by zoidlord on Apr 6, 2012 at 3:38 pm

  11. Well in tne last 30 years so much heritage listing,’ some of the buildings put up in the 60 are marked for demolition, i have two schhols of thought on this, they sre of their time.
    We all went for lunch on ththe wharf today, and the children think yes they shoukd not have been built we should have heritage, the mercury is art deco, a wonderful time zone re buildings

    by my say on Apr 6, 2012 at 3:43 pm

  12. My Say

    In Sydney 60′s and 70′s architecture does not have a great name. The UTS tower block being one example as to why.

    by guytaur on Apr 6, 2012 at 3:49 pm

  13. rummel @612 wrote re “carbon tax”; Should I post the high def Video of your PM
    saying those words on a stunning morning in front of the Brisbane river.
    ?

    Yes please do, but only if you have the full video of the interview. None of the usual half-arsed 8 seconds rubbish. The full interview can’t be found on the Channel 10 website although it is listed on parlinfo website. There is only a rather bad closed caption text that cuts off early. see below

    If you are keen to tell the whole truth then go for it, but if you just want to post to an 8 second short YouTube video, don’t bother.

    http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id%3A%22emms%2Femms%2F179580%22

    There will be no carbon tax under the government I laid. What we will do his tackle the challenge of climate change. We have invested record amounts in solar and renewable technologies. I want to build the transmission lines that will bring back clean green energy into the national average is the grid. I also want to make sure that we have no more dirty coal-fired power stations and make sure we tried greener cars and word from greener buildings. I will deliver those things and the lead at national debate to reach a then the closed caption transcript stops.

    Date
    16-08-2010 
     
    Source
    Ten News

    by Phil Vee on Apr 6, 2012 at 3:49 pm

  14. rummel @612 wrote re “carbon tax”; Should I post the high def Video of your PM
    saying those words on a stunning morning in front of the Brisbane river.
    ?

    Yes please do, but only if you have the full video of the interview. None of the usual half-arsed 8 seconds rubbish. The full interview can’t be found on the Channel 10 website although it is listed on parlinfo website. There is only a rather bad closed caption text that cuts off early. see below

    If you are keen to tell the whole truth then go for it, but if you just want to post to an 8 second short YouTube video, don’t bother.

    http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;query=Id%3A%22emms%2Femms%2F179580%22

    There will be no carbon tax under the government I laid. What we will do his tackle the challenge of climate change. We have invested record amounts in solar and renewable technologies. I want to build the transmission lines that will bring back clean green energy into the national average is the grid. I also want to make sure that we have no more dirty coal-fired power stations and make sure we tried greener cars and word from greener buildings. I will deliver those things and the lead at national debate to reach a then the closed caption transcript stops.

    Date
    16-08-2010 
     
    Source
    Ten News

    by Phil Vee on Apr 6, 2012 at 3:49 pm

  15. apologies for double post….. I promise I clicked Post Comment once and did not click Preview this time at all!

    by Phil Vee on Apr 6, 2012 at 3:50 pm

  16. http://www.google.com/#sclient=tablet-gws&hl=en&tbo=d&q=pictures+salamanca+market+hobart&oq=pictures+salamanca+market+&aq=0v&aqi=g-v1&aql=&gs_l=tablet-gws.1.0.0i15.86882l100748l1l105046l26l18l0l8l8l0l427l6244l3-17j1l26l0.frgbld.&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=a5dea67826a4ab35&biw=1280&bih=800

    My favouite heritage section, in tbe city

    by my say on Apr 6, 2012 at 3:56 pm

  17. There you are. Nothing comes from nothing and Nothing can be everything. Tweeps, you are Nothing. Dont worry, be happy

    http://www.smh.com.au/technology/sci-tech/no-argument-against-god-just-another-view-about-origins-of-the-cosmos-20120405-1wfm3.html

    by The Finnigans on Apr 6, 2012 at 3:56 pm

  18. http://www.salamanca.com.au/

    by my say on Apr 6, 2012 at 3:56 pm

  19. Well, a propos of nothing very much, with all this Titanic stuff going on at the moment, we watched A Night To Remember last night, to my mind the best film made about the night the Titanic sank.

    A stellar mostly-British cast (with a few Aussies, Irish and Yanks), slightly cheezy external special effects, fantastic indoor sets and “acting, my dear boy, acting” in all the right places produced a fantastic cinematic experience. When the band struck up Nearer, My God To Thee and the bass player started singing I was close to tears.

    I could have sworn I saw a cameo performance by Julia Gillard trying to do something with the deck chairs (bad joke), but otherwise thoroughly enjoyable. They knew how to make movies in 1958. Just goes to show that the extra $180 million that James Cameron spent didn’t add very much to the artistic potential of his version of the story.

    Incidentally, a young and incredibly gorgeous Honor Blackman (future Pussy Galore) added a LOT of glamour to the show.

    **** out of 5 stars.

    by Bushfire Bill on Apr 6, 2012 at 3:58 pm

  20. Phil have you copied this to a file for safe keeping

    by my say on Apr 6, 2012 at 4:00 pm

  21. The Guardian’s Newton Channel sounds interesting.

    Science TV. Genuine science, that is, without the Foxtel Weaponology and shoot-em-up crap that the local Science Channel delivers (between endless commercials).

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/series/the-newton-channel-science-videos?intcmp=122

    by Bushfire Bill on Apr 6, 2012 at 4:08 pm

  22. Talking about fuel excise, Labor could help push E85 which can be made up here in North Queensland by slashing the excise on E85 to half that of petrol, in other words 19 cents a litre.

    This would help the sugar industry in Queensland and make the greenies happy at the same time.

    by GeeWizz on Apr 6, 2012 at 4:15 pm

  23. Space Kidette ‏ @SpaceKidette

    Think it's time for Tone and his motley crew to dial it back on the meds: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/coalition-says-police-raid-on-fair-work-australia-would-be-justified-if-it-failed-to-produce-hsu-report/story-fn59niix-1226320341352 #auspol #LNPHysteria

    by Space Kidette on Apr 6, 2012 at 4:17 pm

  24. This would help the sugar industry in Queensland and make the greenies happy at the same time.

    And reduce taxation receipts by plenty! What services would you cut on order to pay for it?

    by BK on Apr 6, 2012 at 4:18 pm

  25. Wizzy

    Heard of Manildra? John Howard forgot a few times as well. The Australian ethanol industry is based on wheat. A situation the National Party will never allow to change.

    by ruawake on Apr 6, 2012 at 4:21 pm

  26. Just spent 10 mins flushing a brushtail possum out of my mother’s bedroom – hiding under chest of drawers for two days apparently, where dog had cornered it. Young male, ears back with fright. Reached in and tickled it between the shoulderblades and it scampered out into open air and up a tree.
    Done my good deed for the day :)

    by lizzie on Apr 6, 2012 at 4:22 pm

  27. Wizzer

    Ready to admit John Howard was the PM to put an excise on petrol?

    by ruawake on Apr 6, 2012 at 4:24 pm

  28. "And reduce taxation receipts by plenty! What services would you cut on order to pay for it?"

    Yeah because E85 is going to cost the government a fortune in it’s current take-up.

    Please turn brain on, you can increase the tax rate 10 Years down the track when it starts becoming popular.

    by GeeWizz on Apr 6, 2012 at 4:34 pm

  29. http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002517363
    A letter from someone thanking the taxpayer for food-stamps.

    by Puff, the Magic Dragon. on Apr 6, 2012 at 4:34 pm

  30. Just spent 10 mins flushing a brushtail possum out of my mother’s bedroom – hiding under chest of drawers for two days apparently, where dog had cornered it. Young male, ears back with fright. Reached in and tickled it between the shoulderblades and it scampered out into open air and up a tree.
    Done my good deed for the day :)

    I rescued a ringtail from HI’s bedroom recently. Little bugger kept scampering from one side of under the bed to the other. Finally cornered him and thought to self: “Hmmm… prehensile tail. Grab by Tail!”.

    Worked, but he dug his claws into the carpet, and then into me as I carried him out.

    The one before that was another ringtail, corned by one of my dogs at 2.30am. Barking woke me up. Little critter ran up my jeans and onto my shoulder, with the dog trying to jump up and get him. As the dog is a Shi-Tzu, he had no chance of reaching shoulder height.

    The possum made a squeaking noise (possum equivalent of “Get f**ked, BOTH of yers!!!” I think) and launched himself from my shoulder to our Old Man Banksia tree, then off into the night. Dog spent the next 15 mnutes searching through the ferns to see if possie had a mate.

    3am and we were all snuggled up together again.

    They ARE darling little things. Unfortunately (for them) just about the right size for Hunting Shi-Tzus (which my guy fancies himself as). Anyway, that night turned out Possums 1 – Shi-Tzu’s Nil at least.

    by Bushfire Bill on Apr 6, 2012 at 4:35 pm

  31. Rua, no I’m not.

    Keating introduced the fuel excise and the yearly CPI increases. This is a statement of fact.

    John Howard froze the CPI increases and it has been at 38 cents a litre ever since.

    by GeeWizz on Apr 6, 2012 at 4:35 pm

  32. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2125594/Scientists-magnets-repel-sharks.html

    Not all sharks, apparently.
    (John Howard thought that fridge magnets would repel terrorists :lol: )

    by lizzie on Apr 6, 2012 at 4:35 pm

  33. Please turn brain on

    And the calorific value of E85 is substantially less than that of regular fuel, thereby reducing fuel efficiency (ie increases cost per km).
    You really should try to look at bigger pictures sometimes.

    by BK on Apr 6, 2012 at 4:37 pm

  34. Bushfire

    The possum apparently entered the house two nights ago at midnight and was chased around three rooms by a German Shepherd, finally hiding under cupboard.
    Couldn’t believe the dog had ‘forgotten’ about it by morning.
    Poor thing was very confused by the daylight but eventually shinned up a smooth gum tree.
    Possum 1. Dog 0.

    by lizzie on Apr 6, 2012 at 4:40 pm

  35. @GeeWizz/780

    So he helped it, instead of canning it lol, love you’re work trying to justify Coalition….

    by zoidlord on Apr 6, 2012 at 4:41 pm

  36. History of fuel taxes in Australia:
    http://www.smh.com.au/news/alan-ramsey/absurdity-by-the-tankful-in-fuel-tax-debate/2008/05/23/1211183096255.html

    Bob Hawk and Paul Keating introduced 6 month fuel excise increases

    by GeeWizz on Apr 6, 2012 at 4:41 pm

  37. GW

    Keating introduced the fuel excise

    Final proof (if it were needed) that you are a complete idiot.
    Read the following and shut up. http://fueltaxinquiry.treasury.gov.au/content/backgnd/002.asp

    by ajm on Apr 6, 2012 at 4:42 pm

  38. Stephen Mayne ‏ @MayneReport
    Nice line by Grattan in The Age about lack of productivity at Fair Work Australia. Emblematic of problems with a union dominated government.

    Hmmm.

    by lizzie on Apr 6, 2012 at 4:43 pm

  39. Wizzer

    Howard introduced petrol tax as treasurer during the Fraser Government originally in August 1978. Keating indexed it. Howard then had to levy state petrol taxes on behalf of the states.

    So I am correct PM Howard has introduced all petrol excises.

    by ruawake on Apr 6, 2012 at 4:43 pm

  40. http://www.smh.com.au/world/greek-pensioner–shoots-himself-over-debts-20120406-1wged.htmlGW that is what Austerity gets you..

    by guytaur on Apr 6, 2012 at 4:47 pm

  41. Austerity a term for making the poorer pay for the richer.

    by guytaur on Apr 6, 2012 at 4:48 pm

  42. http://tinyurl.com/7wvrot4 (click google link)

    Only fools build an economy on 'certainties' about its currency
    by: Terry McCrann From: Herald Sun April 05, 2012 12:00AM

    THE sharp and sudden fall in the Aussie dollar should be instructive on all sorts of levels and we should learn from it.

    First and most obviously, the impossibility of and basic foolishness in trying to predict its level or direction.

    An entirely sensible article by McCrann (weird, eh?) in which he endorses the decision to bail out Holden, taking the long term view that the investment is worth it in order to protect the long term economy post mining boom & high dollar.

    by Leroy on Apr 6, 2012 at 4:51 pm

  43. "Howard introduced petrol tax as treasurer during the Fraser Government originally in August 1978."

    BS, read the article.

    Howard introduced a *PRODUCTION* tax(much like a resource royalty) on Australian produced Oil which matched Fuel Import Tarriffs of foreign imported oil at the time.

    If you read the article you will see that the first government to introduce an actual… true blue… dinki di… fuel tax was Bob Hawke with Paul Keating as treasurer. They then made this tax increase every 6 months based on CPI.

    In regards to the NSW case who I assume were double dipping on fuel tax, I have seen no evidence that the Feds increased the fuel levy to offset NSW loss of income from their double dipping.

    by GeeWizz on Apr 6, 2012 at 4:54 pm

  44. What does it matter who introduced it, Howard used it and continued to use it right through the life of his government. OK, so he froze it at one stage, but that was only because he was tanking in the polls and looked like losing big time.

    He could have discontinued it at any stage. He could have made it an election pledge fin any one of 1996, 1998, 2001, 2004 or 2007… and he didn’t.

    They ALL do things like this, Gee Whiz. Why do you make out it’s only Labor governments?

    by Bushfire Bill on Apr 6, 2012 at 4:59 pm

  45. In regards to the NSW case who I assume were double dipping on fuel tax, I have seen no evidence that the Feds increased the fuel levy to offset NSW loss of income from their double dipping.

    You really this silly?

    3 High Court cases found that the States could not raise excise. This related to tobacco, petrol and alcohol.

    So what did Howard do? Say sorry States you must find other revenue? No he said here you are States I will collect it for you and give it back.

    Except of course in Qld, the only State without a fuel excise. So Howard had to raise petrol prices in Qld and then give the money back. Tossing away the advantage Qld had.

    This in itself should make all Queenslanders Labor voters. But Howard said be grateful we are giving you a subsidy.

    by ruawake on Apr 6, 2012 at 5:02 pm

  46. http://www.smh.com.au/world/greek-pensioner–shoots-himself-over-debts-20120406-1wged.htmlGW that is what Austerity gets you..

    Yeah and 1,000 people killed on our roads every year is what liking rapid motor transport gets you. Terrible tragedy, but what to do about it?

    Either Greece pulls the reins on or it goes under. Greece goes under, WE go under. It shouldn’t be the way, but from where I’m sitting, the Greeks stuffed it up for themselves by thinking that the Great Aegean Tax Dodge could go on forever.

    by Bushfire Bill on Apr 6, 2012 at 5:03 pm

  47. BB

    The poor could not do tax dodges. That is of the rich. I agree some cutbacks needed to be made to social programs in Greece. No avoiding it. However my point is the Austerity has been used as an excuse to get the poorer to pay for the mistakes of the rich.

    by guytaur on Apr 6, 2012 at 5:07 pm

  48. Okay I will agree Fuel excise was increased federally in 1997.

    Still doesn’t take away the fact it was introduced by hawke/keating.

    "Except of course in Qld, the only State without a fuel excise. So Howard had to raise petrol prices in Qld and then give the money back. Tossing away the advantage Qld had."

    Right… he “raised petrol prices” in QLD, how did he do that?

    QLD Had the cheapest fuel in the country until Bligh scrapped the fuel subsidy.

    by GeeWizz on Apr 6, 2012 at 5:11 pm

  49. Pope Benedict has reasserted the Roman Catholic Church's ban on women priests during a sermon at Saint Peter's Basilica in Rome.

    The Pope warned he would not tolerate priests challenging the Church on topics such as priestly celibacy and the ordination of women.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-04-06/pope-reaffirms-ban-on-women-priests/3937010

    by lizzie on Apr 6, 2012 at 5:12 pm

  50. They ARE darling little things. Unfortunately (for them) just about the right size for Hunting Shi-Tzus (which my guy fancies himself as). Anyway, that night turned out Possums 1 – Shi-Tzu’s Nil at least.

    BB – they are not darling little things in my suburb. 10,000 to the sq mile and always running over the roof at 3am.
    I have an amazing Shih Tzu dog myself – what a breed. He was operated on in early January for stomach cancer which was so widespread they stitched him up and I brought him home. The experts now want to do chemo-therapy! Amazingly he is so well and also chasing cats and whippets. He is a keen swimmer and will swim out and fetch a stick in the ocean as often as you want to throw it.

    by Dr John on Apr 6, 2012 at 5:12 pm

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