Newspoll: 59-41 to Coalition
Word on Twitter is that Newspoll has the Coalition’s two-party lead out from 56-44 to 59-41, from primary votes of 27% for Labor (down two) and 51% for the Coalition (up three). But for a 26% result in the September 16-18 poll, this would be the lowest primary vote Labor had ever recorded since Newspoll commenced in 1985. The two-party figure ranks as the Gillard government’s equal worst result, along with the poll of September 2-4. Newspoll hasn’t always reported two-party preferred results, but my own calculations tell me there remain unbroken records from the respective honeymoon periods of Rudd (63-37 in February/March 2008) and Howard (60.5-39.5 in April 1996). Julia Gillard is up a point on disapproval to 63% and steady on approval at 28%, while Tony Abbott is down two on approval to 33% and up one on disapproval to 55%. Tony Abbott has widened the preferred prime minister lead he gained in the previous poll, from 41-39 to 41-36. As always, the sample for the poll was around 1150, with a margin of error of 3%.
Categories: Federal Politics 2010-
Didn’t the Falkland islanders request a bit of assistance to relieve them of their Argentinian non-guests?
by shellbell on May 3, 2012 at 11:36 am
Guytaur the AMEX issue is a separate matter to the original credit card claims which related to HSU corporate cards. This is a card supplied and paid for by a third party in exchange for contracts allegedly. Shellbell can correct me if I am wrong but that comes down to corruption rather than fraud.
by davidwh on May 3, 2012 at 11:36 am
To its credit, The Age has printed quite a few letters critical of Grattan’s writing over the past couple of days.
by Son of foro on May 3, 2012 at 11:38 am
Maybe the media have wind of the fact it’s about to blow, so they are pre-emptively steering away from it.
Wow. A few unintentional sailing metaphors in there. Maybe I was a pirate in a past life
by Danny Lewis on May 3, 2012 at 11:38 am
davidwh
Yes if you are right that is different issue. However then you have to have Thomson involved in same. Not heard anything relating to Thomson in regards to that.
by guytaur on May 3, 2012 at 11:39 am
kezza2
I always enjoy your passionate posts. Especially when the “drainos” are on song, and need a bit of a shake up!!
by victoria on May 3, 2012 at 11:39 am
look as though Labor is wavering.
At the end of the day, and JG slogs it out until say August next year, she will have proved every pundit, and I mean every pundit wrong – both about her ability and her government’s ability to stand and deliver.
Anything less than this, other than of her own choosing to tell everyone to stick it, will likely mean defeat.
The likes of and of Smith, Shorten, Combet or Rudd will do nothing to stop said defeat as Labor will be seen as weak.
Governments, at the end of the day, are not rewarded for being weak and wavering.
They are often rewarded for being strong and wrong
Being strong and right is even better. TRICOT POSTED
My comment
Tricot best post for inspiration this week
by my say on May 3, 2012 at 11:39 am
Tricot
Another great contribution
by victoria on May 3, 2012 at 11:40 am
DL
I did not see JG presser and am curious how many questions re Slipper. If there were only a couple, it woud suggest to me that there must be some rumours around the press gallery that are not too favourable for the coalition
by victoria on May 3, 2012 at 11:41 am
Also Slipper has not been on a twitter for more than a few days now
by victoria on May 3, 2012 at 11:43 am
victoria
Last question of replay of jG presser on 24
Not many on Scandals. The usual suspects from the right asked about carbon price and infrastructure.
by guytaur on May 3, 2012 at 11:43 am
guytaur FYI for what it’s worth. It depends on whether he was even involved in the HSU at the time however the NSW police will work that out.
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/hsu-boss-put-30k-a-month-on-amex-20120410-1wn1n.html
by davidwh on May 3, 2012 at 11:44 am
guytaur
Can you give a round figure.
Eg How many on policy vs scandal?
Thanks in advance
by victoria on May 3, 2012 at 11:45 am
https://www.allout.org/en/actions/operation_relocation
Our Problem?
by guytaur on May 3, 2012 at 11:46 am
Vic
One person’s passion is another person’s obsession, and vice versa.
by bluegreen on May 3, 2012 at 11:46 am
bg
I guess you should know
by victoria on May 3, 2012 at 11:47 am
victoria
No I had some distractions so did not hear all. From what I heard no questions were asked about Thomson and Slipper affairs.
by guytaur on May 3, 2012 at 11:47 am
It was actually that issue that got the NSW police involved after they handed the other matter over to VIC police. This is the issue I believe will end up having the biggest impact if any of the matters are proved.
From memory the NSW police opened the investigation after Jackson provided them with information.
by davidwh on May 3, 2012 at 11:47 am
I hope you Bludgers feel happy for me. I am about to go off NBN trial and hook up permanent to a $100 telstra internet phone bundle which will give me 200G of data at 100 down and 40 up. At the moment i still have to use the standard phone but overall the plan i have signed up on should save me between $30 and $40 per month for Internet and phone.
Having spoken to a lot of people during the process i am sure the NBN is going to be a very big factor in the next election as it has been unanimous that nobody wants it shut down. If they don’t want it shut down then they certainly will not vote for the reactionarys Abbott and his fascist merry band of lying rogues.
by Gaffhook on May 3, 2012 at 11:48 am
davidwh
Very different from the Oppn he is guilty his vote is tainted stance.
by guytaur on May 3, 2012 at 11:49 am
I presume that the force posture review focussing on the North and West will mean a relocation from the East and South.
Will someone politicise this?
Reminds me of Jim Hacker’s Grand Design and the West Wing epsisode about armed services base relocations.
by bluegreen on May 3, 2012 at 11:50 am
Gaffhook
Congratulations. I for one, am happy for you!
by victoria on May 3, 2012 at 11:51 am
Darn # 4342
1. Male teacher trainees have always been hard to get, even in the preWhitlam era (in 1973, when 35 was the top matric mark & 21 Uni acceptance), Q Teachers Colleges recruited males on 13, but rejected a female on 23 (both examples in my same Senior English class) usually because family resources tended to be spent on the potential breadwinner.
2. Today, there’s a different reason, and a strong well-identified one & has been for the last 20 or so years (esp in Q with its CMC )- fear of being accused of sexual harassment and assault.
3. There have also been (in US since the postWW II era of GI scholarships) massive demographic changes – and a massive amount of National & International studies of the changed demographics’ effects.
4. I haven’t checked the Q Ed state ed gender balances for a couple of years (2009-early 2010?) but DoEd had gender balance policies.
Women have been running SHSs (inc the toughest) since the mid1980s (Wives, sisters & daughters of Nat Pollies, esp rural ones, tended to be teachers, ensuring a good family wage through bad seasons). Newman might change that; IF the Nats let him (after a 20 yrs’ drought’s devastation, I can’t see that).
by OzPol Tragic on May 3, 2012 at 11:51 am
Guytaur I don’t agree with that line of argument from Abbott. The proper course is to let authorities carry out their investigations. So no not at all happy with Abbott over Thomson statements.
by davidwh on May 3, 2012 at 11:52 am
Gaffhook
I am jealous. Still have a while to wait. For me to get Broadband Government HAS TO go full term.
by guytaur on May 3, 2012 at 11:52 am
i could not see if this was linked earlier by anyone. Vexnews on Kathy Jackson
http://www.vexnews.com/
by victoria on May 3, 2012 at 11:53 am
my say @4388
Thanks again for your encouragement.
As with others who post here, it seems sometimes we’re banging our heads against a brick wall of apathy and/or stupidity. We are up against some very powerful forces, but we have to carry on and fight the good fight.
As Peter Garrett once sang, “It’s better to die on your feet than to live on your knees”.
by Dan Gulberry on May 3, 2012 at 11:53 am
davidwh
Compare and contrast that with the government saying Pyne has questions to answer.
No declaration of guilt before a trial. Just something looks wrong lets get some answers and find out.
by guytaur on May 3, 2012 at 11:54 am
The Fluoro people are laying the main NBN cable along our street as we write. Unfotunately the links to the houses will not start for 2 years.
by Boerwar on May 3, 2012 at 11:58 am
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/may/02/murdoch-phone-hacking-us-senator?CMP=twt_fd
Poroti where are you, see who is enquiring Jay Rockefeller looks good for woes of Murdoch going to the states, and even more important think that is where about at least 40% ++ revenue comes in for NewsLtd
by mari on May 3, 2012 at 11:58 am
Action Jackson, Labor’s answer to Potty Palmer, strikes again.
by Boerwar on May 3, 2012 at 11:59 am
Romney in trouble again
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/02/richard-grenell-flap-mitt-romney_n_1472188.html
by guytaur on May 3, 2012 at 12:03 pm
Our defence assets are generally well-located were we to be invaded by Tasmania and New Zealand.
by Boerwar on May 3, 2012 at 12:05 pm
davidwh
re your “mystical line” remark and that you can’t work out what it means.
But I get where you’re coming from: you want to know JG didn’t say the line was crossed till she returned from overseas. Let me pre-empt your smarmy dismissal of any reason I give, by teasing it out a bit.
I think you’d agree that one of JG’s outstanding qualities is that she holds “respect” as an absolute personal value – not just for people but for our institutions. One of her deepest held respects is for a fundamental of our Rule of Law – innocent until proven guilty.
So, obviously JG was going to say “innocent until proven guilty” as she embarked on a very busy overseas trip. When confronted by the media (which, as you know by now, she never shirks) that is exactly what she said.
However, by the time JG returned, Slipper had been found guilty in the court of public opinion, absolutely aided and abetted by an msm fixated on regime change. Nothing was too salacious to publish. Even the court documents that had been filed were published. It was a media frenzy – and you know it. That was a big line that had been crossed.
It’s not as if the media hadn’t done this before. The Lindy Chamberlain case is a prime example. But this time, the press had gone too far.
Because the Commonwealth is named as First Respondent in the Federal Court of Australia in an accusation involving the Speaker of the House, the press had crossed a very big line – they were bringing parliament into disrepute.
So, davidwh, it was the msm that crossed the line. Not that JG can spell it to them because she’s be absolutely crucified if she did. But, I’m surprised you can’t work it out.
by kezza2 on May 3, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Based on the Temby report I’d say Wiliamson could be in big doo doo.
I think DavidWH is right in that the credit cards issued by suppliers to the HSU to Williamson is the problem.
The Temby report shows that suppliers were getting way over the odds for provison of services. If the facts show that an arrangement existed wheregy contracts were given on the understanding that a benefit accrues back to the guy who ticked off on the contract you’ve got potential fraud of the union.
Thompson may be in trouble if it is established that a he was given a supplier credit card and that he was part of the process of granting the contract and/or that he was invlived in the arrangement or was aware of the arrangement of kickbacks.
I feel for the members of this union who are some of the poorest paid in our community and from Temby and other sources it looks like their union fees and interests were treated in cavalier fashion to say the least.
They really need an adminstrator in there ASAP
by gough1 on May 3, 2012 at 12:08 pm
by victoria on May 3, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Is it?
by smithe on May 3, 2012 at 12:10 pm
mari
If the Rockefellers are involved it could be serious for Rupert.It will be Murdochageddon if the issue jumps across the Atlantic. The share holders are already revolting. Shame about how the company is structured however as Rupes will probably survive.
by poroti on May 3, 2012 at 12:11 pm
That was my first impression when watching the presser.
by Son of foro on May 3, 2012 at 12:12 pm
gough1
I am utterly confused about Thomson. He has stated he was never ever part of HSUeast which is the branch that is in trouble. He was once National secretary
by victoria on May 3, 2012 at 12:13 pm
The HSU doesn’t have too many friends.
by Diogenes on May 3, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Smithe
Not at that moment as there are no allegations and there may never be any
by shellbell on May 3, 2012 at 12:14 pm
vic
thanks
I am making a concerted effort to ignore what I now call “Griffin Groupies”
by kezza2 on May 3, 2012 at 12:16 pm
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/breaking/13585965/pyne-may-have-asked-for-number/
First mention I have seen on Yahoo 7 tucked away very discreetly of course
One thing for sure Jay R doesn’t have to worry about Rupe trying to stop him by cutting money off, even though the Board unanimously backed Rupe the shareholders and big funds are getting very upset. Always amazed me the Rockefellers and pleased may I add being Democrats, you would think they would be Repugs
Did you see the info from Allan Moyes and Swamprat last night re Scotland and also the Gordons?
by mari on May 3, 2012 at 12:19 pm
victoria
You are not alone. That is why I do agree with the aspect davidwh emphasises the most. Let the proper precess happen and do not jump to conclusions in the meantime.
You can say you think the odds are that this is going to happen. You just cannot conclude they will.
by guytaur on May 3, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Kezza2
Griffin groupies!! I like it
by victoria on May 3, 2012 at 12:20 pm
The problem with your analysis Kezza is that these matters would not have been brought into the light if not for the persistence of the media. Politicians don’t get to draw that line to suit their own political situations. Having said that I agree people deserve the presumption of innocence and where politicians, the media etc cross that line then I agree they deserve to be criticised.
But let’s be honest the real problem for the government arose firstly because they acted contrary to nearly all other sections of society by supporting Slipper as Speaker before all the issues were delt with and secondly by senior government ministers clearing Slipper of the criminal charges while the matters were still being reviewed by the AFP based on a few copy vouchers. From that perspective the government crossed another of those mystical lines and have been punished for that.
by davidwh on May 3, 2012 at 12:21 pm
I think there’s a wider context though. I don’t think JG would have had to go back somewhat on Wilkie’s plan if she hadn’t had numerous NSW/QLD MPs within the party (assisted by Rudd) opposing it so much.
by rishane on May 3, 2012 at 12:24 pm
rishane
Precisely
by victoria on May 3, 2012 at 12:25 pm
Indeed I am, Gaffhook. Toowoomba’s orientation seminars etc are on this Saturday. Telstra gangs have been back again tinkering with the “node” on the corner, prob because the copper sections between us & downtown HQ are being replaced – the City’s been plagued by multiple fibre, then copper, then … stages for ages, especially since most in the area have schools along the way, placing a strain on copper sections.
The Darwin -> Brisbane via T cable was finished not long ago (late 11-early12) so lots of small places in its vicinity are connected/ being so, inc areas on the Lake Eyre & GABasins. Lots of industries (inc ed & medical and I guess military& airport) are cavorting in joy – they are also connected through the top new mobile network (essential in severe thunderstorm & flood areas).
I’m excited & I’m only a retired Old Gal user!
But that’s as nothing to those in remote areas, communication blackspots, who, in all honesty, have the most to gain by long-overdue, cutting-edge communication technology – to them it’s not having to go often 100s Ks to access services, specialists on line in medical emergencies, intimate skype-style virtual meetings, social gatherings, schools & kindies etc and international TV streaming! Able to communicate with family & friends often (necessarily) 1000s Ks away in hospitals, boarding schools & other accommodation; attend virtual weddings, family celebrations, funerals – things big city folk take for granted.
No way they’d ever have had (& never will have under a Coalition Government) NBN’s communication systems – despite Howard’s never-honoured promises to Barnaby Joyce.
by OzPol Tragic on May 3, 2012 at 12:25 pm