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Newspoll: 54-46 to Coalition

GhostWhoVotes reports (though James J in comments had the numbers 45 minutes earlier) that Newspoll has the two-party preferred vote at 54-46, compared with 55-45 a fortnight ago and 59-41 the fortnight before. The primary votes are 32% for Labor (up two on last time), 46% for the Coalition (up one) and 12% for the Greens (steady). Julia Gillard’s approval rating is up three to 30% and her disapproval down three to 60%, while Tony Abbott is respectively down three and up four to 31% and 60%. Julia Gillard leads as preferred prime minister 40-37, reversing Abbott’s 40-36 lead last time.

Today’s Essential Research was less encouraging for Labor: it had them losing one of the points on two-party preferred which were clawed back over previous weeks, the result now at 57-43. Primary votes were 50% for the Coalition (up one), 33% for Labor (steady) and 10% for the Greens (steady). Other questions gauged views on the parties’ respective “attributes”, with all negative responses for Labor (chiefly “divided” and “will promise anything to win votes”) rating higher than all positives. The Liberal Party did rather better, rating well for “moderate” and “understands the problems facing Australia”. Bewilderingly, only slightly more respondents (35%) were willing to rate the state of the economy as “good” than “bad” (29%), with 33% opting for neither, although 43% rated the position of their household satisfactory against 28% unsatisfactory.

UPDATE (29/5/12): Morgan have broken the habit of a lifetime by publishing their weekend face-to-face poll results on a Tuesday, never having been known in the past to do it earlier than Thursday. My best guess is that they wished to offer a riposte to Newspoll’s relatively encouraging figures for Labor – “today’s Newspoll showing a swing to the ALP is simply unbelievable”, says Gary Morgan in the accompanying release – with their own results, which show Labor support at an all time low on every measure. The poll has Labor’s primary vote down 4.5% on the previous week to 27.5%, the Coalition up 3.5% to 49% and the Greens up 2.5% to 13%. This translates into 61.5-38.5 on respondent-allocated preferences and 58-42 on preferences as they flowed at the previous election.

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  1. @5031 – do think Mick is on the money?

    @5036 – Mick, are you doing a Doctorate in Linguistics or something?

    FFS

    by Compact Crank on Jun 1, 2012 at 2:07 pm

  2. How much is an aircrew life worth? Or the civilians, soldiers and sailors they will protect?

    I prefer the Humphrey Appelby argument for unlimted defence procurement.

    Don't you believe that Great Britain should have the best?
    ...
    Very well, if you walked into a nuclear missile showroom you would buy Trident - it's lovely, it's elegant, it's beautiful. It is quite simply the best. And Britain should have the best. In the world of the nuclear missile it is the Saville Row suit, the Rolls Royce Corniche, the Château Lafitte 1945. It is the nuclear missile Harrods would sell you. What more can I say?

    by bluegreen on Jun 1, 2012 at 2:07 pm

  3. The New well fed, well groomed, winter readied BISONs are here –

    http://thefinnigans.blogspot.com.au/

    by The Finnigans on Jun 1, 2012 at 2:08 pm

  4. @5035 – just one minor problem – compare and contrast population densities.

    by Compact Crank on Jun 1, 2012 at 2:09 pm

  5. Brian Mc
    Posted Friday, June 1, 2012 at 2:06 pm | Permalink
    Blue Green @ 5040
    You obviously have an imagination that wanders around excrement-pits.

    Ha! I am in those pits with ICAC mate.

    by bluegreen on Jun 1, 2012 at 2:09 pm

  6. Not sure if this has been mentioned before ..

    The Armidale Express reports today that Richard Torbay (Ind for Northern Tablelands in the NSW Parliament) is close to finalising joining the Nats with a view to having a tilt at Tony Windsor in New England next year.

    If this does come to pass, Windsor should be worried as Torbay is by far the most realistic prospect of knocking Windsor off. Torbay was the only country independent to hold his seat last year – and did so comfortably.

    by blackburnpseph on Jun 1, 2012 at 2:09 pm

  7. It is what it is Crank.
    Said out loud it does come across as a racist slur, if your uncomfortable with it then don’t say it, even if you don’t consider it as Anti-Semetic doesn’t make it less vile.
    Its far more offensive than what Plibersek put up and the Liberals, and their toadying supporters, should have the good-grace to order it be torn down and appologise to Ms Plibersek

    by Mick Collins on Jun 1, 2012 at 2:11 pm

  8. Another thing howard/costello besides selling telstra and gold reservers was have 6 levies(Tones call Toxic Taxes) without all those they would not have had a surplus even in a mining boom.oh yes there is a futures fund,that of course protects howard and costello pensions.

    barnyard halved payments to children abused under state care (liberal gov),then held a lavish dinner for rich liberals.

    by Schnappi on Jun 1, 2012 at 2:13 pm

  9. BBS

    The Nats offered a seat at a by-election to a popular local Mayor ofr recent NSW byelection. But they did the old bait and switch and threw it to a constested preselection. He lost.

    So was then unable to contest the election as an independant (too late).

    I wonder if they would do the same to Torbay.

    BTW Torbay is a lightweight as compared to Windsor.

    by bluegreen on Jun 1, 2012 at 2:13 pm

  10. oh yes there is a futures fund,that of course protects howard and costello pensions.

    And those of tens of thousands of Commonwealth public servants.

    by blackburnpseph on Jun 1, 2012 at 2:16 pm

  11. @BreakingNews: US job growth improved in May with 150,000 jobs created, according to a survey of economists – @Reuters http://t.co/zcQd2iG9

    by guytaur on Jun 1, 2012 at 2:17 pm

  12. CC

    It’s funny – so many of the people critical of the JSF project would have preferred to keep the F111 flying...

    No-one is laughing. Who actually preferred to keep the F111 flying? It was past its use-by date, stood out like a sore thumb on even the most out-dated radar, was becoming dangerous to fly, and very expensive to maintain.

    – and yet the F111 project was in the same boat – late and expensive but cutting edge and fucking good at what it did.

    There is no evidence at all that the F111 and the JSF analogous (ie in the same boat), as you claim,. in terms of performance. We know that the JSF is not meeting even the out-dated initial requirements. However, the F111 and the JSF are in the same boat when it comes to both being late and very expensive.

    I have no doubt that in the decades to come the JSF will be looked on in the same way as the F111 – yep, it was late and intially expensive but we can’t do with out because of the marvellous capabiltiy it provides.

    A faith-based approach to mililtary hardware belongs with Hillsong-type operations.

    The Super Hornetts are a very good stop gap adn the Growlers are awesome pieces of kit and well worth the money.

    Agreed.

    How much is an aircrew life worth? Or the civilians, soldiers and sailors they will protect?

    A perfectly useless rhetorical question.

    by Boerwar on Jun 1, 2012 at 2:18 pm

  13. Bluegreen

    Tony Windsor would be a political nobody except that he has found himself in BoP situations twice.

    Torbay has not, but polled over 80% in the 2007 state election and still polled about 65% last time – when the country indies went down like nine pins.

    Torbay would be the only Nat candidate that Windsor would lose sleep over.

    by blackburnpseph on Jun 1, 2012 at 2:19 pm

  14. How much is an aircrew life worth? Or the civilians, soldiers and sailors they will protect?

    Could use the same argument for putting fences along every road in every city.

    by bluegreen on Jun 1, 2012 at 2:20 pm

  15. BSA Bob:

    We’ve gone past “Guided Democracy” to embrace “Intermittent Democracy”.

    “Optional Democracy”? Something the Libs can call on if they need to make a point.

    by Aguirre on Jun 1, 2012 at 2:20 pm

  16. Crank – no matter how you spin it, Emperor Barnett promised the rail line to Ellenbrook.

    Actually, doesn’t matter what you think.

    The Ellenbrook people know a broken promise when they see on.

    Of course, not to mention the 57% increase in power bills, – all blamed in the previous administration.

    Barnett is on watch and he can cop it.

    Barnett is a limp-wristed one man band.

    by Tricot on Jun 1, 2012 at 2:21 pm

  17. BBS

    Torbay has pitched himself as the anti-windsor locally. Sought to place himself to the right of the Nats.

    by bluegreen on Jun 1, 2012 at 2:21 pm

  18. What else would it be when you emphasie the “Ju” in the way that she does by adding in the hyphon

    Because that is the first part of her name? The hyphen just emphasises the second part of the word. You’re reading too much into it to suggest it’s all some antisemitic plot – it’s far more childish than that.

    by ltep on Jun 1, 2012 at 2:26 pm

  19. bluegreen – 5032 Here is a victim of hunting:

    click here

    by gigi on Jun 1, 2012 at 2:26 pm

  20. Torbay will be classed as a hypocrite and will lose if he joins the nats , Torbay will not be able to spread the joy of having the nbn

    by Meguire Bob on Jun 1, 2012 at 2:28 pm

  21. The only thing the libs had at Ellenbrook polling booths were train pictures. It wasn’t a minor local lie – it was Barnett down. Frank had almost nothing to do with it. That he ha got preselection again shows how weak liberal talent is

    by WeWantPaul on Jun 1, 2012 at 2:28 pm

  22. Tricot @5065 – OK genius – time to earn a Nobel Prize in Economics. Given the ALP government had frozen prices for 11 years – exactly how is power meant to be funded without the consumer/tax payer ending up paying for it? What, if any, effective strategy do you have for properly funding power and playing catch up?

    by Compact Crank on Jun 1, 2012 at 2:28 pm

  23. The finns

    Them Bisons are looking very juicy indeed!

    by victoria on Jun 1, 2012 at 2:29 pm

  24. BW –

    'I suppose we could use Orions'

    We could but much more economical to use the many Dash 8′s and the like that contracted companies supply to do the N-W coast patrol.

    (On do it yourself drones – I have a paper that is not too technical about how to buy a very decent hobby helicopter and equip it with a small Linux capable computer ‘on-a-card’ for a very minimal cost – it’s all very feasible and a bit scarey!).

    by CTar1 on Jun 1, 2012 at 2:30 pm

  25. Heard Julia Gillard described as “sour” by a Labor supporter on ABC Radio National.

    Perfect word to describe a lot of the problem in regards to public perception

    by spur212 on Jun 1, 2012 at 2:33 pm

  26. The MSM seem to now be pursuing the narrative that ‘parliament’ has descended into a shocking state, following off from the 7.30 political report on the 30th …

    Deputy Speaker decries feral politics by ABC News
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-01/deputy-speaker-decries-parliamentary-standards/4046096

    Bizarre scenes and shifting mood in Parliament by Barrie Cassidy
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-01/cassidy-bizarre-scenes-and-shifting-mood-in-parliament/4044990

    I’ve felt like hurling abuse myself, says Speaker by Judith Ireland
    http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/ive-felt-like-hurling-abuse-myself-says-speaker-20120601-1zlot.html

    … and just like 7.30 they all seem to be spreading the blame equally (http://www.abcgonetohell.net/post/24124190956/7-30-and-the-sloppy-false-equivalency).

    by ABC gone to hell on Jun 1, 2012 at 2:34 pm

  27. CTar1

    Agree on the Dash8s.

    [DYI Drones...] … love it.

    by Boerwar on Jun 1, 2012 at 2:34 pm

  28. George Megalogenis @GMegalogenis 4h
    The most revealing thing about this weird week: @DobellThommo made @TonyAbbottMHR run from his seat. Aren't pollies meant to run for them?

    by victoria on Jun 1, 2012 at 2:37 pm

  29. @BBS/5049

    Telstra MAY been on the agenda in past governments, but that was a BIG MAY.

    Also you what your blatantly ignored as to how it was going to happen, such as upgrading the network – before the sale.

    So stop preaching to the Costello/Liberals to the tune of $$$$$ of which Telstra was actually SOLD under the COALITION BANNER.

    MAY is a subjective WORD – use it lightly.

    by zoidlord on Jun 1, 2012 at 2:41 pm

  30. For those Ellenbrook voters who feel they were lied to – they have every right to express that feeling however they want including at the balot box.

    The fact is Ellenbrook will get a rail line – just not now.

    The ALP tee off on the size of the deficit as it is.

    What do Ellenbrook voters want? A bigger deficit and more debt? Or cuts elesewhere and if so – name them.

    by Compact Crank on Jun 1, 2012 at 2:47 pm

  31. Gillard could sell Drones-r-us.

    by Compact Crank on Jun 1, 2012 at 2:47 pm

  32. @5078 – Imagine how shit the mobile coverage and internet would be now if Telstra wasn’t sold and the market not opened up to competition.

    by Compact Crank on Jun 1, 2012 at 2:49 pm

  33. BW – What was a bit confronting about it was that I understood how to actually do it. You could add a cheap ‘internet’ video camera (just like the plug-in ones or that your laptop comes equiped with) and other ‘things’ to do all sorts of things (a standard wireless type home connections range is very much expanded if the receiver/sender is above the clutter at ground level).

    Quite a bit of how to do this under Linux was, even to me, something I could actually do.

    by CTar1 on Jun 1, 2012 at 2:50 pm

  34. Are we expecting any poll today?

    by BK on Jun 1, 2012 at 2:51 pm

  35. Australian Media @aus_media 24m
    Newspaper job cuts grow at Fairfax and News Ltd

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/media/newspaper-job-cuts-grow-ay-fairfax-and-news/story-e6frg996-1226379704963

    by victoria on Jun 1, 2012 at 2:51 pm

  36. Gillard could sell Drones-r-us

    Think this pic shows who the drones are,besides being worse than silly children.

    http://blogs.abc.net.au/gerardwhateley/2012/05/racing-in-the-chamber.html

    by Schnappi on Jun 1, 2012 at 2:52 pm

  37. Crank ellenbrook people are simple folk, they want the premier to honor his promise. And you lie again libs have taken the ellenbrook train off the future planning entirely. They don’t just feel they were lie too they were lied too, then the premier lie about lying.

    And didn’t you notice crank we are in a boom and doing so well crazy Colin can’t even spend it all fast enough he has so much spare cash he is putting it away for the future. Like him you really need to practice your lies they are way too obvious.

    by WeWantPaul on Jun 1, 2012 at 2:52 pm

  38. @5087 – you really believe a government run monopolywould provide better telecommunications in today’s environment than the current market based approach? No wonder the NBN has such support – the only way to cling to some semblance of socialist ideals.

    by Compact Crank on Jun 1, 2012 at 3:04 pm

  39. Rubbish produced by one Simon Johanson of The Age

    Home values fell the most in at least six years in May defying Reserve Bank efforts to spark a recovery in the nation's lacklustre housing market with interest rate cuts.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/home-prices-extend-national-retreat-20120601-1zlm6.html#ixzz1wVyquHed

    On what basis does he make this claim that the RBA is attempting to increasehousing prices in Australia? On the contrary, the RBA remains more concerned about how high they are. He should stay on strike.

    This bit is more interesting

    Residential property values slid 1.4 per cent across all capital cities in May, and are now down by more than 5 per cent from a year earlier, according to property analysts RP Data. The monthly fall was the biggest since the series began in June 2006, Bloomberg analytics show.

    by Laocoon on Jun 1, 2012 at 3:07 pm

  40. and just like 7.30 they all seem to be spreading the blame equally

    To say that the blame can be spread equally is not ‘balance’. It’s stupidity.

    by Son of foro on Jun 1, 2012 at 3:07 pm

  41. BK
    Posted Friday, June 1, 2012 at 2:51 pm | Permalink
    Are we expecting any poll today?

    Usually Morgan

    But that was released on Tuesday

    by bluegreen on Jun 1, 2012 at 3:08 pm

  42. @5086 – WeWantPaul – do you hold the PM and Swannie to the same standard? – hold on, I’ve got it somewhere here – “There will be no Carbon Tax under a Government I lead.”

    You don’t think the Royalties from our minerals should be used to create a fund for the future? Replacing one asset with another? The citizens of Eleenbrook rate higher in priority than the future beenit of all West Australians?

    Why don’t you get Julia to fund it? Aparently the Coalition were no bloody good at funding infrastructure but Julia is the duck’s guts at it. She must be able to do it for you. No?

    by Compact Crank on Jun 1, 2012 at 3:08 pm

  43. Laocoon

    The Reserve Bank would not want a situation where a large number of people had negative equity in their houses – that would lead to a lot of foreclosures and drive confidence in the market down.

    The problem is that the whole system has allowed prices to get so high to start with.

    by blackburnpseph on Jun 1, 2012 at 3:09 pm

  44. Victoria @ 4675

    Boerwar

    Indeed. The whinging that goes on in this country is a disgrace

    Certainly is. We are currently In Italy and staff at a number of hotels have expressed the intention and/or wish to move to Australia to take advantage of our great economic conditions. One of them had lived in a Australia for a while and was desperate to get back – she was actually a bit emotional at the sight of our Australian passports.

    by CO on Jun 1, 2012 at 3:12 pm

  45. @5087 – you really believe a government run monopolywould provide better telecommunications in today’s environment than the current market based approach? No wonder the NBN has such support – the only way to cling to some semblance of socialist ideals.

    Telstra is still a monoply,except where the NBN is up and running,telstra would not do broadband to 93% of the country,copper is crap held together with plastic bags and rubber bands,telstra could not afford what a progressive government is doing,dumb abbott does not even know that software is needed for online gambling,blames computers as gambling machine and broadband is to blame,those who have abbotts lines are just camp followers and morons.

    by Schnappi on Jun 1, 2012 at 3:13 pm

  46. Quiet Friday.

    Going to be some bad news to drop soon I think.

    by bluegreen on Jun 1, 2012 at 3:13 pm

  47. @5090 – Yeah!

    The ALP Governemnt has done nothing wrong – it develops and impliments perfect policies and has not set a foot wrong so the Opposition really shouldn’t be criticising it at all, ever. In fact there is no need for Question Time because the Governemnt fully answers all questions appropriately and while we are at we should get rid of FOI laws because the Goverment is so open and transparent and doesn’t do anything wrong, ever so there’s no need for them.

    And as for anything that is said or done by ALP members of Parliament (including Thomo) they have been misinterpretd and taken out of context because they would never stoop to the low levels of the evil stinking filthy Opposition who realy should be in jail.

    by Compact Crank on Jun 1, 2012 at 3:14 pm

  48. Greg Jericho‏@GrogsGamut

    Journo writes about Rudd secret plot then adds, “Whether this is true or not is another matter.” Yeah an insignificant detail, really.

    by Schnappi on Jun 1, 2012 at 3:15 pm

  49. Damn iPhone but my previous message should still be clear.

    Crank – there is no carbon tax – there is only exactly what Howard Rudd, Turnbull and Gillard promised. That lie shows you drink too much koolaid.

    Surely all those red herrings you raise about the very stupid future fund (and no it shouldn’t have been done it was a dumb political stunt that even the west saw straight through) and priorities have been consider by Barnett before he made the promise. Are you saying he is both stupid and dishonest?

    Most infrastructure in WA has been federally funded since colin took over but don’t you think Colin should fund and honor this promise himself. And yes ellenbrook people will have learned from their last two members if you want promises honored and infrastructure delivered you need labor – if you want some to lie and waste the boom go get those liberals.

    by WeWantPaul on Jun 1, 2012 at 3:17 pm

  50. Blackburnpseph

    The Reserve Bank would not want a situation where a large number of people had negative equity in their houses – that would lead to a lot of foreclosures and drive confidence in the market down.

    I absolutely agree with that. Housing prices crashes are so pernicious because they have such pervasive wealth effects.

    That, however, is a very different the implication of The Age.

    by Laocoon on Jun 1, 2012 at 3:18 pm

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