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Newspoll: 55-45 to Coalition

The latest fortnightly Newspoll – the first in some time to be released on Sunday rather than Monday night – has Labor’s primary vote down a point on last time to 30%, the Coalition’s up two to 46% and the Greens’ down two to 12%, with the two-party preferred out from 54-46 to 55-45. Julia Gillard has lost most of her lead as preferred prime minister, which narrows from 42-38 in her favour to 39-38, but the individual personal ratings are essentially unchanged, with Gillard down two points on approval to 30% and up one on disapproval to 59%, while Tony Abbott is down one on each to 31% and 58%.

UPDATE: Essential Research has voting intention unchanged on last week, with the Coalition leading 56-44 from primary votes of 33% for Labor, 49% for the Coalition and 10% for the Greens. The poll also gaugues opinion on the carbon tax for the first time since November last year, up to which point it had asked every month after the policy was first announced in late February 2011, and it finds support at a new low with 35% supportive and 54% opposed. Forty-five per cent believe it will increase the cost of living “a lot”, 26% “a moderate amount”, 20% “a little” and 2% that it will have “no impact”, while 44% think it likely and 40% unlikely that Tony Abbott and the Liberal Party would repeal it in government. More happily for the government, its marine reserves policy has 70% support with 13% opposed. The poll also finds 88% rating themselves not likely to pay for online newspaper content against only 9% likely.

UPDATE 2: The latest Morgan face-to-face poll, covering the last two weekends, has Labor down half a point to 32.5%, the Coalition up three to 45.5% and the Greens down 2.5% to 10%. The Coalition’s lead is up from 55-45 to 56.5-43.5 on respondent-allocated preferences and from 52-48 to 54.5-45.5 on previous election preferences.

Matters federal:

• ReachTEL last week published results of two automated phone polls from the electorates of Tony Windsor and Rob Oakeshott, finding both to be headed for defeat. In New England, Nationals candidate-presumptive Richard Torbay was rated at 62% of the primary vote against 25% for Windsor (after distribution of the undecided), which on 2010 preference flows would put Torbay ahead 65.7-34.3. In Lyne, David Gillespie of the Nationals (UPDATE: Commenter Oakeshott Country notes I’m jumping the gun here: the Nationals are yet to confirm their candidate) led Oakeshott 52% to 31%, or 55.4-44.6. The electorates were polled in October last year by Newspoll, at which time no information on likely Nationals candidates was available, which showed Windsor trailing 41% to 33% and Oakeshott trailing 47% to 26%.

• Ben Packham of The Australian reports a “factional brawl” looms in the South Australian Liberal Party over the Senate vacancy created by the retirement of Mary Jo Fisher, who suffers a depressive illness and was recently reported to police for shoplifting for the second time in 18 months. Packham reports that Ann Ruston, former National Wine Centre chief executive and owner of a Riverina wholesale flower-growing firm, might emerge as a moderate-backed candidate. However, the Right’s position – contested by the moderates – is that she would have to renounce her existing claim to the number three position on the Senate ticket for the next election if she wished to contest the preselection. Kate Raggatt, a former adviser to Nick Minchin, is “seen as a possible right-wing contender for the vacancy”. Brad Crouch of the Sunday Mail lists Cathy Webb, Andrew McLaughlin, Paul Salu, Chris Moriarty and Maria Kourtesis as other possibilities.

Matters state:

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  1. Well, Bludgers, good night. Sleep well.

    by Boerwar on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:17 pm

  2. Puff,

    Still negotiating!

    by Space Kidette on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:17 pm

  3. Peg

    It would be nice to discuss this without the pseudo-analytical nonsense.

    Thanks for the additional commentary!

    by Astrobleme on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:18 pm

  4. maybe people on here know what the issue is but prefer to not bore everyone to death by going on about day in day out.

    and there is nothing better to see than those that profess to know the truth…

    i also thought the ALP was about internal debate, external solidarity.

    it now appears that those who lose the internal debate have chosen to destroy the solidarity.

    by middle man on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:18 pm

  5. So could Labor, IMHO

    Surely you jest! Labor needs people who are capable of winning those reluctantly supportive of its views, not those who continue to alienate them because of boorish, thuggish behaviour.

    by confessions on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:18 pm

  6. Night boerwar

    by victoria on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:18 pm

  7. spur212 @ 3079

    Bemused

    My feeling is that if things are the same way they are in 3 months, people on here will start to think a bit about what the problem is.

    It took a lot to shift me

    I doubt it. They have dug themselves in way too far. Thought and logic doesn’t enter into it. Nor does even a basic ability to comprehend polls.

    by bemused on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:18 pm

  8. Goodnight Boerwar.

    by confessions on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:19 pm

  9. bemused/spur

    We do not choose the leader, caucus does. We do not need to be convinced of anything. Least of all by you two.

    by victoria on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:20 pm

  10. I am not sure if you guys have posted this earlier but PM ran the IA story on Jackson tonight

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-26/jacksons-at-centre-of-hsu-allegations/4093190

    by bluegreen on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:20 pm

  11. My friends, why do you bicker so?

    by bluegreen on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:21 pm

  12. Isn’t it amazing, even Maxine McKew is excommunicated by some here, the woman he beat little Johnnie Howard. The woman that everyone used to love, now…..

    She doesn’t lick Gillard’s toes so that is it for her, and the mortal sin of being a Rudd supporter.

    Her comment …

    ...arguments are retrofitted.

    Is exactly what has been happening since day one of the assasination of Rudd by Gillard’s factional backers.

    Cant wait for the book, at least it should contain some real back room information.

    by Thomas Paine. on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:21 pm

  13. A flyer sent out by Tony Abbott has potentially exposed small businesses to fines of up to $1 million each.

    The Opposition Leader wrote to thousands of small business owners warning them of the impact of the carbon tax. The letter, from Mr Abbott and opposition small business spokesman Bruce Billson, is accompanied by a flyer that shop keepers - specifically butchers - have been encouraged to place in store windows.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/abbotts-carbon-tax-flyer-exposes-businesses-to-fines-bradbury-20120626-20ztc.html#ixzz1ytwZobix

    Hilarious. Today’s Liberal party: stuff up one day, total clusterf**k the next.

    by confessions on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:22 pm

  14. bg

    Amazing isnt it. I remember you deriding the lizard people for following the IA story. Now the ABC has taken it up. Only took them a month

    by victoria on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:23 pm

  15. not sure i sighted the word ‘excommunicated’ before you wrote it.

    by middle man on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:23 pm

  16. TP

    If the aim is not to have Tony Abbott as leader, then anything that helps that deserves criticism.

    Even if the Ruddstoration were magically to happen, McKew’s comments – as reported -are of no benefit in helping Labor win the next election.

    She could wait – as even Richo did – a little longer and not do any damage.

    by zoomster on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:24 pm

  17. Vic

    I never denied that Jackson was not a person of disrepute, just that it would get Thomson off the hook for his misdemeanours.

    The whole HSU board should be in weekend detention for the next five years.

    by bluegreen on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:25 pm

  18. Having lived in that seat I can tell you why Maxine McKew lost. She failed to secure the chinese vote.

    by Space Kidette on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:25 pm

  19. what is it exactly that the ‘restore Rudd’ crowd want?

    i’m struggling to understand what they think will be achieved?

    I wasn’t in causcus so i dont know if the decision to sack him was right or wrong? others here seem to claim they know for sure it was wrong.

    so how exactly can this ‘problem’ you all see be fixed?

    by middle man on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:26 pm

  20. Ms McKew appears to be set to join the longish list of Rooster/feather dusters who are all set to do some damage to a Labor Government.

    BW, she needs a red dress & a double spread on WW, then she’ll be Cheryl Kernot Mark 2

    Just how pathetic can you people actually become?

    In earlier times you two would probably be the first out there to have her garrotted for speaking against your anointed.

    And if you were not so stupid you would see the bleeding obvious of how and where the mortal damage to government has been done, and it is nothing to do with Rudd, McKew and the like.

    by Thomas Paine. on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:27 pm

  21. Astrobleme,

    Zoomster’s MO is transparent. Anyone who can not see it is not going to be persuaded by you or me so there is no point in wasting your time in a long and protracted exchange over many hours with her.

    She wants you to lose your temper and remain mired in a personal tit for tat. By doing so she is distracting you from presenting evidence and facts.

    Sure, occasionally I will push back against her verballing but never for long. I am happy not to have the last word and am content for her posts to stand without response and let the lurkers make their own judgement about what she says and how she conducts herself.

    by Pegasus on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:27 pm

  22. Corro between Bowen and Morrison – re AS back in Jan, worth a read.

    http://www.minister.immi.gov.au/media/media-releases/_pdf/cb_sm_correspondence.pdf

    by Rossmore on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:28 pm

  23. She failed to secure the chinese vote.

    Andrew Elder, who lives in the seat, says she failed to campaign period. He wrote a post immediately following the 2010 election about his observations.

    It would appear Mckew expected the party would simply carry her in 2010 as it did in 2007 when she was facing off against a sitting PM. Unrealistic.

    by confessions on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:28 pm

  24. Thanks Peg

    Goodnight!

    by Astrobleme on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:29 pm

  25. bg

    That is not how I recall your commentary. The FWA report did not mention anything as reported by IA and now the ABC. Question is why? And that is what some of us bludgers were challenging at the time. I recall a very different perspective from you. But hey, what does it matter i guess

    by victoria on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:29 pm

  26. “meher baba
    Posted Tuesday, June 26, 2012 at 10:06 pm | Permalink
    It’s looking more and more like “Utegate2: Steve’s back and this timr he’s gonna get him”. I believe Abetz went out of his way to counsel Abbott and Pyne not to pursue this on the basis of “If it looks too good to be true, then it isn’t”. But the prize was clearly too great.

    Some of you love conspiracies. How about this one. Labor MP is married to Chris Uhlmann. Uhlmann is best mates with Steve Lewis. Steve Lewis is looking reasonable odds to have seriously wounded two Liberal leaders in less than three years….

    You know it makes sense.”

    Jeez meher baba, I thought I was a conspiracy theorist, I dips me lid to ya, the best I could come up with was Palmer doing a Newman :)

    by Augustus on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:29 pm

  27. i’m constantly amazed by the pomposity, arrogance and rudeness of posters on this site. some people need to get over themselves. a little civility people, please.

    by middle man on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:29 pm

  28. http://kangaroocourtofaustralia.com/2012/06/24/julia-gillards-corrupt-past-raised-in-parliament-by-alp-member-robert-mcclelland/

    by Space Kidette on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:30 pm

  29. Question for the board
    Can we say that, slowly, the Meme is changing ?
    By saying that I mean, given that Abbotts main rhetorical attack has reached its dead end with Sunday looming, and given that the Government now should get some clear air, will the fact of the Government simply governing, and Tonies complete lack of policy cause peoples sentiment to shift back ?

    by Mick Collins on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:30 pm

  30. TP There are more important things on the political agenda today than Ruddstoration. Move on.

    by Rossmore on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:30 pm

  31. peg

    By doing so she is distracting you from presenting evidence and facts.

    I’d be delighted for Astro to do that. In fact, I encourage it.

    He didn’t need to be distracted. He failed to bring them up all by himself.

    by zoomster on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:30 pm

  32. Boerwar @ 3088

    If they like the thought of Mr Abbott becoming prime minister that much, they should eff off and join the Liberal Party.

    Mr War, there is no need for that. Just supporting the present leadership of the ALP has things right on track to achieve that. The polls clearly show that it is leadership that is dragging the govt down in the polls. I am confident that will change, one way or another.

    by bemused on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:31 pm

  33. Good way to finish a good day. The one, the only NeoCon Tory solution to everything (not confined to old Blighty either)

    http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/the-daily-cartoon-760940.html :-D

    by OzPol Tragic on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:31 pm

  34. And if you were not so stupid you would see the bleeding obvious of how and where the mortal damage to government has been done, and it is nothing to do with Rudd, McKew and the like.

    you meanz like this?

    Thomas Paine
    Posted Wednesday, June 23, 2010 at 10:05 pm | Permalink
    Gillard would suffer very little backlash from the electorate for replacing Rudd. Remember the media has been running a long campaign about how bad Rudd is. People will just shrug and see it as a natural event.

    by The Finnigans on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:31 pm

  35. peg

    Sure, occasionally I will push back against her verballing but never for long. I am happy not to have the last word and am content for her posts to stand without response and let the lurkers make their own judgement about what she says and how she conducts herself.

    Yep. You’re openly mocked here, and I’m not, so how’s that working out for you?

    by zoomster on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:31 pm

  36. Astrobleme are you for real?

    Silly question, you’re a Green, of course not!

    People in their appropriate field have concluded that the Malaysian solution has a solid chance of being successful.

    These experts are in a much stroger position to make a more informed determination than a simpleton like you.

    Why will the Malaysian solution work?

    I have told you before, people will be much, much more reluctant to embark on a boat heading to our shores where their chances will be that another country will be their ultimate destination.

    If you are not simple, you will remember it so you don’t have to ask the same question again!

    by Centre on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:32 pm

  37. I trust they enjoy the thought that they are essentially supporting the electoral fortunes of the vilest LOTO Australia has the misforturne to have had.

    It is actually the fools who after copious quantities of clear evidence that Gillard IS the problem, but still blame everybody and everything else, that are doing all the damage to Labor’s .

    It is the sad people who support factional mafia control of the party even to its own destruction that are the problem and the only ones whose position will bring us PM Abbott and GG Howard.

    by Thomas Paine. on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:32 pm

  38. I agree with everything that McKew said. i thought it was honest and factual.

    I would add that in all of the Multicultural seats in Western Sydney, even the really safe ones, there were large swings against Labor.

    I would put this down to two things (which I have discussed here before) whcih relate to my new demographic- the multicultural ‘values’ voters

    1 athiest PM
    2 Dogwhistling rhetoric (Bradbury in Navy vessel, not believing in Big Australia etc etc)

    by bluegreen on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:33 pm

  39. mm

    Agree we should be more civil.

    Calling it a night.

    Interesting to see what tomorrow brings

    by victoria on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:33 pm

  40. vic. there is just no need for some of the attitude and language on here.

    goodnight.

    by middle man on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:35 pm

  41. victoria
    Posted Tuesday, June 26, 2012 at 10:29 pm | Permalink
    bg

    That is not how I recall your commentary. The FWA report did not mention anything as reported by IA and now the ABC. Question is why? And that is what some of us bludgers were challenging at the time. I recall a very different perspective from you. But hey, what does it matter i guess

    Where I agree that you outpredicted me is that the Jackson delerium has taken the political and media pressure off Thomson.

    by bluegreen on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:35 pm

  42. Even the herald,waiting to see if they do jackson as well

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/staffer-talked-dirty-to-speaker-peter-slipper/story-fn7x8me2-1226409541284

    by Schnappi on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:35 pm

  43. McKew says should never have walked away from CPRS. Was a real breach of trust. He knows this.

    yep, she is absolutely right, I wrote to then PM Rudd that he should call a DD and didnt get a reply. So he lost me, as simple as that.

    by The Finnigans on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:36 pm

  44. SK @ 3117

    Having lived in that seat I can tell you why Maxine McKew lost. She failed to secure the chinese vote.

    She had it in 2007 and a lot of it left in 2010 when certain event occurred.

    ALP members with a large Chinese community like to have Rudd campaigning with them.

    by bemused on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:36 pm

  45. One for all the Rudd fans:

    GhostWhoVotes ‏@GhostWhoVotes
    Kevin Rudd has formally nominated for preselection in his seat of Griffith. http://bit.ly/Ld1CxD #auspol

    by Dan Gulberry on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:37 pm

  46. bemused

    Thought and logic doesn’t enter into it. Nor does even a basic ability to comprehend polls.

    Goodness, are all those Laborites closet Greens ;-)

    by Pegasus on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:38 pm

  47. good news Dan. He’s my local member and I’m glad he will continue to be.

    by middle man on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:38 pm

  48. Bemused,

    It is a bit more than that, they like to be wooed. Wacking a few pamphlets in letter boxes won’t do it. And they tend to vote as a block so you can’t skip doing the hard yards with them.

    by Space Kidette on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:39 pm

  49. Having lived in that seat I can tell you why Maxine McKew lost. She failed to secure the chinese vote.

    Kiddo, methinks it might have something to do with Rudd’s speech at the Beijing University in Mandarin.

    by The Finnigans on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:39 pm

  50. Finns,

    Enlighten me my brain is fried and can’t recall!

    by Space Kidette on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:40 pm

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