Newspoll: 55-45 to Coalition
The latest fortnightly Newspoll – the first in some time to be released on Sunday rather than Monday night – has Labor’s primary vote down a point on last time to 30%, the Coalition’s up two to 46% and the Greens’ down two to 12%, with the two-party preferred out from 54-46 to 55-45. Julia Gillard has lost most of her lead as preferred prime minister, which narrows from 42-38 in her favour to 39-38, but the individual personal ratings are essentially unchanged, with Gillard down two points on approval to 30% and up one on disapproval to 59%, while Tony Abbott is down one on each to 31% and 58%.
UPDATE: Essential Research has voting intention unchanged on last week, with the Coalition leading 56-44 from primary votes of 33% for Labor, 49% for the Coalition and 10% for the Greens. The poll also gaugues opinion on the carbon tax for the first time since November last year, up to which point it had asked every month after the policy was first announced in late February 2011, and it finds support at a new low with 35% supportive and 54% opposed. Forty-five per cent believe it will increase the cost of living “a lot”, 26% “a moderate amount”, 20% “a little” and 2% that it will have “no impact”, while 44% think it likely and 40% unlikely that Tony Abbott and the Liberal Party would repeal it in government. More happily for the government, its marine reserves policy has 70% support with 13% opposed. The poll also finds 88% rating themselves not likely to pay for online newspaper content against only 9% likely.
UPDATE 2: The latest Morgan face-to-face poll, covering the last two weekends, has Labor down half a point to 32.5%, the Coalition up three to 45.5% and the Greens down 2.5% to 10%. The Coalition’s lead is up from 55-45 to 56.5-43.5 on respondent-allocated preferences and from 52-48 to 54.5-45.5 on previous election preferences.
Matters federal:
• ReachTEL last week published results of two automated phone polls from the electorates of Tony Windsor and Rob Oakeshott, finding both to be headed for defeat. In New England, Nationals candidate-presumptive Richard Torbay was rated at 62% of the primary vote against 25% for Windsor (after distribution of the undecided), which on 2010 preference flows would put Torbay ahead 65.7-34.3. In Lyne, David Gillespie of the Nationals (UPDATE: Commenter Oakeshott Country notes I’m jumping the gun here: the Nationals are yet to confirm their candidate) led Oakeshott 52% to 31%, or 55.4-44.6. The electorates were polled in October last year by Newspoll, at which time no information on likely Nationals candidates was available, which showed Windsor trailing 41% to 33% and Oakeshott trailing 47% to 26%.
• Ben Packham of The Australian reports a “factional brawl” looms in the South Australian Liberal Party over the Senate vacancy created by the retirement of Mary Jo Fisher, who suffers a depressive illness and was recently reported to police for shoplifting for the second time in 18 months. Packham reports that Ann Ruston, former National Wine Centre chief executive and owner of a Riverina wholesale flower-growing firm, might emerge as a moderate-backed candidate. However, the Right’s position – contested by the moderates – is that she would have to renounce her existing claim to the number three position on the Senate ticket for the next election if she wished to contest the preselection. Kate Raggatt, a former adviser to Nick Minchin, is “seen as a possible right-wing contender for the vacancy”. Brad Crouch of the Sunday Mail lists Cathy Webb, Andrew McLaughlin, Paul Salu, Chris Moriarty and Maria Kourtesis as other possibilities.
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Lewis is disaster prone
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How stupid are the Liberals ?…this is the 2nd time Lewis of the DT has enbroiled them in a disaster …which seemed like a clever idea at the time …but…
First Grech…now Ashby…..
they are slow learners
and what will be Ashby fate after the matter’s settled in Slipper’s favour??
unemployable I would think !
by deblonay on Jun 28, 2012 at 1:54 am
Puff
A pox on all their houses too.
by Schnappi on Jun 28, 2012 at 1:57 am
debloney
Think Doane was stupid to throw her lot in with ashby, as both should be unemployable.
With doane it makes me think pyne is up to his nose in this.
by Schnappi on Jun 28, 2012 at 2:00 am
Ashby = Lib roadkill
by Puff, the Magic Dragon. on Jun 28, 2012 at 2:00 am
Makes me think.
What tangled webs we weave and how many have been woven over the years?
Iceberg – tip, anyone?
by Puff, the Magic Dragon. on Jun 28, 2012 at 2:04 am
I am not sure how far ideals and lofty rhetoric is going to help when the real brown stuff hits the fan, as highly populated areas of the world start to run out of water due to climate change. I think right now we are in our apprenticeship with learning to respond to requests for resettlement in the face of crisis. A regional response will be imperative, that is for certain.
by Puff, the Magic Dragon. on Jun 28, 2012 at 2:17 am
Melb and Syd have desalination plants that whingers call white elephants,some day they will be gratefull they are there.
by Schnappi on Jun 28, 2012 at 2:21 am
Puff re immigrants
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What happens when climate change effects coiuntries like Bangladesh with 140 million pop
I went there to a UNESCO conf. once and it was a shock.. even after India which I had visited
Millions live on the river delta is an armada of small boats and many could if needed take off across the Indian Ocean…as they well may do in the future I guess if the climate collapse effects agricuture
Indeed all across the world the poor are on the move to dine with the rich(us)
I recently read of a tourist in Greece (Lesbos) which is near the Tiurkish coast…walking in earky morning on a coast road and she saw dozen of illegal migrants just landing in small boats from Turkey….just across the bay
Not turks but Iraqis and Afghans and others ..fleeing the wars…imposed by the West in the case of Iraq
Greece for all it’s problems has 500/000 refugees in the country…many on their way north to France and Italy…which had more than a 100/000 last year alone
In some parts of Nrth Italy there are large Chinese communities… of Chinese who have made their way from Bosnia…one can enter Bosnia by air and no visa needed
Then then cross borders until they reach Italy
There are flights from China to Bosnioa…so no problems
I don’t think we can stop the strean from the North now can I see a solution
by deblonay on Jun 28, 2012 at 2:32 am
Feeble attempt by daily terror to influence slipper case.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/slipper-sex-case-politics-appalling/story-e6freuy9-1226410512712
by Schnappi on Jun 28, 2012 at 3:21 am
For Bushfire Bill,
Another ‘I told youse so!”
http://www.abc.net.au/environment/articles/2012/06/26/3532627.htm?WT.svl=featuredSitesScroller
by Puff, the Magic Dragon. on Jun 28, 2012 at 3:56 am
Schnappi, the content of that Telegraph rubbish amounts to “ignore the evidence, concentrate on the accusation”.
by Fulvio Sammut on Jun 28, 2012 at 5:29 am
Fulvio Sammut
Certainly agree with that,seen other articles doing the same.
by Schnappi on Jun 28, 2012 at 5:34 am
They are pathetically transparent. No intelligent being could take them seriously in light of what has come out.
by Fulvio Sammut on Jun 28, 2012 at 5:40 am
When July 1 rolls around and the polls dont change. And Ashby comes and goes and Abbott is still standing.
Then will the caucus finally choose a leader that will beat Abbott in the 2013 election.
by bluegreen on Jun 28, 2012 at 5:54 am
Is this where we’re supposed to chant “verily” and “hallilujah”?
by Fulvio Sammut on Jun 28, 2012 at 6:09 am
I love prophets, especially Green ones. They exude this aura of finality about their every utterance. It makes you really, really want to believe them.
A bit like Hillsong.
by Fulvio Sammut on Jun 28, 2012 at 6:12 am
Raining yellows in Spain v Portugal.
by This little black duck on Jun 28, 2012 at 6:21 am
I would hope so.
by bluegreen on Jun 28, 2012 at 6:22 am
There are a couple of issues for the greens to answer.just because some nation signed a treaty does that mean they adhere it to the full. I would say not necessarily. If you read the UNHCR site on Malaysian refugees they quote that their neighbors do not realize that refugees are next door. If as some of the greens try to make out that Malaysia is a hell hole then blocking the resolution does deny a large number to come out of that hell hole. if the resolution is passed then it will also bring a greater scrutiny to the Malaysian refugees resulting in their betterment. Also I am not sure if all the bills passed by greens pass the purity of principle test or are tinged with pragmatism.finally the government has stood by the greens to pass their legislation to their detriment. In their hour of need would the greens hold out an helping hand or stand by their illogical(not for the greater good) stand?
by smssiva on Jun 28, 2012 at 6:23 am
The closest he usually gets is that it requires Labor to get rid of Gillard. Then the Libs can get on with the task of dumping Abbott.
The flaw in that argument is how Abbott’s position would be weakened by seeing off two Labor PMs.
by Gorgeous Dunny on Jun 28, 2012 at 6:47 am
PtMD
As you will have read, Greens support a regional solution. What proportion of persons displaced by climate change should in your opinion, be the subject of involuntary rendition and punitive detention? Which of them will count as asylum shoppers and queue-jumpers?
SMSSIVA:
There’s nothing stopping Australia from accepting more refugees from Malaysia or Indonesia — certainly not the Greens.
by Fran Barlow on Jun 28, 2012 at 6:51 am
Good morning Dawn Patrollers.
unfortunately I’ll miss much of the day’s political events due to duties on the flatlands. We can, I am sure, expect some poisonous contributions from a number of Coalition Senators (my bet is on Michaelia Cash to take the prize) and a juvenile one from SHY. She should be asked just how many refugees Australia would need to take every year in order to “stop the boats”.
This is good news for unborn boys in Germany.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/business/
A nice helping of MOAR here.
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/slipper-diary-was-sent-to-lnp-rival-20120626-210mz.html
Cathy Wilcox on the AS options.
http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/opinion/cartoons/cathy-wilcox-20090909-fhd6.html
David Pope also.
http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/opinion/cartoons/david-pope-20120214-1t3j0.html
David Rowe has a shot as well.
http://www.afr.com/p/home/cartoon_gallery_david_rowe_1g8WHy9urgOIQrWQ0IrkdO
by BK on Jun 28, 2012 at 6:52 am
Good morning Dawn Patrollers.
unfortunately I’ll miss much of the day’s political events due to duties on the flatlands. We can, I am sure, expect some poisonous contributions from a number of Coalition Senators (my bet is on Michaelia Cash to take the prize) and a juvenile one from SHY. She should be asked just how many refugees Australia would need to take every year in order to “stop the boats”.
This is good news for unborn boys in Germany.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/business/
A nice helping of MOAR here.
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/slipper-diary-was-sent-to-lnp-rival-20120626-210mz.html
Cathy Wilcox on the AS options.
http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/opinion/cartoons/cathy-wilcox-20090909-fhd6.html
David Pope also.
http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/opinion/cartoons/david-pope-20120214-1t3j0.html
David Rowe has a shot as well.
http://www.afr.com/p/home/cartoon_gallery_david_rowe_1g8WHy9urgOIQrWQ0IrkdO
by BK on Jun 28, 2012 at 6:52 am
Usage Note:
I’ve been reading the “MOAR” acronym(?) here for some time. Whta does it mean.
by Fran Barlow on Jun 28, 2012 at 6:57 am
oops What does it mean?
by Fran Barlow on Jun 28, 2012 at 6:58 am
Tony had better check his template.
http://www.americablog.com/2012/06/deficit-increases-in-austerity-plagued.html
Only in America? I certainly hope so!
http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/ok-man-files-eeoc-complaint-against-p
by BK on Jun 28, 2012 at 6:59 am
Fran
MOAR means MORE! As in revelations of the Coalition’s involvement in the (apparent) Slipper setup.
by BK on Jun 28, 2012 at 7:00 am
I’ve gotta get cracking. Catch y’all later this afternoon. QT set to record.
by BK on Jun 28, 2012 at 7:06 am
Fran Barlow
Think of it as a roar for more
http://xaxor.com/images/other/111195/moar_23.jpg
by poroti on Jun 28, 2012 at 7:10 am
Thanks BK and Poroti …
by Fran Barlow on Jun 28, 2012 at 7:18 am
FB
And in the meantime they persist in dying at sea. Which simply means that you’d rather see them die until your preferred solution is in place.
Malaysia has had all sorts of problems but the UNHR has written in favour of that solution and it will be monitored by them and Australia, and any issues addressed. I’m sure the few survivors will be eternally grateful to the Liberals and Greens for allowing their relatives to die at sea while you lot cry the same crocodile tears that JoHo tried on yesterday about the plight of one 13 yo girl. You and he conveniently forget the ongoing deaths to your shame.
Get down from your ivory tower and address the real world.
by muttleymcgee on Jun 28, 2012 at 7:24 am
Spain 4 Portugal 2 on penalties.
by This little black duck on Jun 28, 2012 at 7:28 am
Julia Gillard: I believe the time for politics is over. The Senate must pass the bills …
I object to this bowdlerised definition of politics. Politics is, IMO, the complex of behaviours connected with the achievement of policies for a community. Arguably, everything a ruling body considers doing is ‘political’, and indeed all acts aimed at predisposing change or defence of existing policies is ‘political’. Accordingly, the assertion by Ms Gillard that the time for politics was over was itself an overtly political claim and any conceivable response by the Senate to it would have been a political response, given that either new policy would have been authored or existing policy continued.
What Ms Gillard might have claimed was that the time for policy stasis, or deadlock or the pursuit of partisan advantage or existing shibboleths was at an end. Whatever I would have made of such a claim, it would at least have been prima facie plausible.
by Fran Barlow on Jun 28, 2012 at 7:31 am
Mr Abbott’s spokesman said the Opposition Leader had at all times been up front, honest and transparent on his knowledge of Mr Ashby’s allegations.
that is a lie right there
Abbott denied he knew anything then admitted he knew pyne asked for ashby details
The government needs to go hard on what does abbott know, he is the leader and had discussion with brough about the pre selection
by Meguire Bob on Jun 28, 2012 at 7:31 am
Fran –
I object to this use of “bowdlerised” in this context. You’ve argued that Julia Gillard has used the term “politics” incorrectly, but that isn’t what “bowdlerised” means. Has she used the word in a sanitized, puritanical way that satisfies a religious moral code? I don’t think so. Your complaint is about incorrect – perhaps overly simplistic – usage, not deliberate substitution of text for a moral purpose.
Regardless, your pedantry on this is not useful – we all know what she means (whether we agree with her or not), so her communication is effective whatever your concerns about the usage of the word “politics”.
by Jackol on Jun 28, 2012 at 7:45 am
Despite the bill passing the House, under motion from an Independent, Hartcher tells us that the Parliament “is broken”, in a nice passive-voice attempt at moaning about the lack of a clear majority.
He assigns some blame to the Opposition for intransigence, but can’t quite bring himself to make it crystal clear that the government offered them Nauru: what they wanted. It takes him a while to get around to it.
He fudges around for a couple of sentences first:
A nicely balanced tit-for-tat there. The Opposition insists and the government persists.
Only in the next sentence does Pin-Stripe Pete concede the reality of the situation:
Well, yes it did Pete, and it gives the lie to the entire Opposition stance on Asylum Seekers. They want only what they want, but are not prepared to give the government what it wants. It’s called “compromise”, or rather, lack of same.
This is because…
And his conclusion?
No it doesn’t, Pete. It shows that the Opposition bloody-well broke it.
Try the active voice once in a while Pin-Stripe. It’ll do your writing wonders.
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/parliament-in-disrepute-after-politicking-rules-again-20120627-212yv.html#ixzz1z24kOsiT
by Bushfire Bill on Jun 28, 2012 at 7:47 am
MuttleyMcgee said:
What I’d prefer or my party would prefer bears no defined relationship to the risk trading of asylum seekers, because what I’d prefer is not being implemented. The world is at is, despite my party’s strenuous objections. Not unreasonably, asylum seekers are evaluating their options and some are concluding that the hazards of the passage are a risk worth taking, all things considered. That’s tragic, because their calculus takes into account the reality that the alternative to irregular maritime passage is a life of misery, spent watching their children endure misery in their formative years with the possibility that at some indefinite point in the future, they will be returned to the places from which they fled, without the assets that they liquidated and in debt as well. Little wonder then that as many take this desperate step as do. When all the choices a person has are dreadful, people will make dreadful choices and hope to get lucky.
I doubt they will be thanking the Liberals, assuming they know enough to evaluate their policies, since the Liberals are even more aggressive than the ALP in wishing to punish them for making the difficult choice that they have been predisposed by them to make. On the other hand, if they know anything of our policy, they will be glad that we have not sought to prejudice their choice, nor cruel its consequences if they do survive. They will surely be pleased that we have sought to ensure that they ought to be processed speedily, allowed to live in our community and to secure work. They will be aware that the fact that they have lost friends and family at sea has nothing to do with us, but reflects the drivers of their flight, the options at arrival in Malaysia or Indonesia, the processing policies of the Australian government and so forth.
by Fran Barlow on Jun 28, 2012 at 7:47 am
http://www.abc.net.au/environment/articles/2012/06/26/3532627.htm?WT.svl=featuredSitesScroller#comments
Just forwarded this little one on to sen conroy,
Note the word tax not price surley this is enough to have new management ,
Was this picked up in proofe reading
Do they have such people
by my say on Jun 28, 2012 at 7:50 am
Good morning all.
Another boat in distress.
http://www.smh.com.au/national/another-asylum-boat-in-distress-report-20120628-213il.html
Pressure right on the Liberals and the Greens now.
by confessions on Jun 28, 2012 at 7:52 am
Why does the ABC think its the responsibility of the Greens to compromise, ie recant their stated political platform, so that the Government can pass their Malaysia, Iraq, Iran, Indonesia solution because the Opposition will not budge from Nauru.
Surely responsibility for passing this or that odious refugee bill is the responsibility of Labor and LIberals working together, rather than expecting the Greens to go against their party policy, which most Green voters agree with
by billie on Jun 28, 2012 at 7:52 am
r tells us that the Parliament “is broken”, in a nice passive-voice attempt at moaning about the lack of a clear majority.
Well he was on abc last night telling us, wtte, this ai t goi g to work wtte
So do t let it be so ,:-)
By the way does he get paid for appearing on tbe abc
Its time we sent email after email to sen conroy
New mangement needed
by my say on Jun 28, 2012 at 7:53 am
Sneerer Morriscum now talking to FKelly.
He says there is already compromise ….. “our borders have already been compromised by this government”.
As Fred Daley would say “Morriscum is not fit to swill milk to pigs”.
by psyclaw on Jun 28, 2012 at 7:58 am
It’s endlessly frustrating listening to interviewers who can’t seem to detect the flaws in politicians’ reasoning and so don’t ask the right follow-up questions. Fran let Morrison off the hook again.
by triton on Jun 28, 2012 at 7:58 am
Arguably, yes. She has affirmed a long standing moral dichotomy between ‘politics’ as inauthentic and self-serving and some unspecified residual (for which she offers no term {“statesmanship”; “leadership”?}) which presumably is in some other authentic interest. That’s a form of equivocation intended to cover ethical humbug. She has stripped of politics its foundation leaving only its vacuous and journalistic usage.
Harriett Bowdler would surely have approved.
by Fran Barlow on Jun 28, 2012 at 8:00 am
Come on Greens….have a go. Put forward and push for a sunset clause. You claim to be a conscience party!
by psyclaw on Jun 28, 2012 at 8:00 am
Christ Fran, the Greens have their head in the clouds.
It says that the boat trip automatically ennobles anyone who takes it, elevating them to a status above and beyond those who simply can’t afford it.
They deserve better because they must be desperate, or else why would they risk their lives? It’s “their choice” to drown: a nice form of words that permits you to wash your hands of the whole unsavoury “death at sea” thing.
Hundreds of people have died, Fran. It wouldn’t matter if you increased the limits to 100,000 or a million. There’d still be those who didn’t make the cut, and then they would try to come by boat. Then hundreds more would drown.
For the sake of transporting several hundred people to Malaysia (from where, if they liked they could then proceed back home) the Greens are prepared to romanticise about the noble sacrifices made by “desperate” people who risk drowning. They tip their boats over, or they fall over by themselves, and we have to go and fish the bodies out of the water and give the survivors the treatment that their desperation requires.
It’s a stupid policy that is killing people. They’re not romantic, noble voyagers. Getting here by boat is the only way to do it, because the airlines won’t let them on the bloody plane without a visa.
by Bushfire Bill on Jun 28, 2012 at 8:01 am
Jean-Jacques Rousseau was born 300 hundred years ago today.
“Man was born free, but he is everywhere in chains.”
by gigi on Jun 28, 2012 at 8:02 am
They say politics is all about compromise. Today is the day for the Greens to show they are smart or stoooopid #auspol
by The Finnigans on Jun 28, 2012 at 8:03 am
Joe’s crocodile tears ….. what a joke. Are the lieberals really going to remove kids from boats before sending the boats back. Hypocrite with a dodgy amygdala and dodgy reasoning skills. So sloppy!
by psyclaw on Jun 28, 2012 at 8:04 am
So frannie thinks julia is playing politics
Still shaking head
I have informed nick mckim as much as i like him he is off my voting list
While ms milne plays political games.
by my say on Jun 28, 2012 at 8:04 am