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Nielsen: 58-42 to Coalition

GhostWhoVotes reports the latest monthly Nielsen poll has the Coalition lead at 58-42, compared with 57-43 in the previous month’s poll. The primary votes are 28% for Labor (up two), 48% for the Coalition (steady) and 12% for the Greens (down two). That these shifts should send Labor backwards on two-party preferred can be put down to fortuitous rounding in Labor’s favour last time. Tony Abbott’s lead as preferred prime minister has widened, from 46-44 to 46-42, but personal ratings are little changed. Julia Gillard is down a point on approval to 35% and steady on disapproval at 60%, while Abbott is steady at 39% and down two to 55%.

Nielsen also has 88% of respondents wanting “the political parties to compromise to find a policy solution” on asylum seekers, not unreasonably (a more specific question regarding the arrangement which passed the House last week would perhaps have been more illuminating), with only 10% opposed. Labor (58%) fared worse than the Coalition (42%), the Greens (39%) and the independents (18%) when respondents were asked of each party in turn if they bore some responsibility for the impasse. The poll also has opposition to the carbon tax at 62%, up from 59% in October, while support is down from 37% to 33%. Only 5% believed they would be better off after carbon tax compensation, with 51% believing they would be worse off.

UPDATE: Essential Research has two-party preferred steady at 56-44, with the Labor primary vote down a point on last week to 32% and the Coalition and the Greens steady at 49% and 10%. Presented with the favoured policies of Labor (offshore processing in Malaysia), the Liberals (offshore processing in Nauru) and the Greens (onshore processing), respondents divided 18%, 35% and 14%. However, 57% favoured an option that the government should negotiate a solution over the alternative that it should adopt the Liberal policy. Further questions gauge use of newspapers and concern about their decline, culminating in a finding that 52% would approve of the government “taking action to maintain the publication of daily newspapers” against 27% who would disapprove.

We also have the quarterly Newspoll breakdowns by state, gender, age and capitals/non-capitals. The star attraction here is a collapse in Labor’s vote in Queensland, their primary vote down to 22% from 30% in the previous quarter and their two-party vote down from 42% to 35%. How much of this might be put down to static from the state election, and how much to the defeat of Kevin Rudd’s leadership challenge and the manner in which it was effected, is a subject for further discussion. I also note that the Greens primary vote appears to be down on the 2010 election result among men and voters under 35, but not among women and older people. The availability of state breakdowns from Nielsen allows us to combine their results, with due weight given to their respective sample sizes. This produces quarterly samples ranging from about 3300 in New South Wales to 1200 in South Australia/Northern Territory.

The Nielsen figures corroborate Newspoll’s result for Queensland (their last three monthly polls have had Labor’s two-party vote at 34%, 36% and 32%), and point to a Labor collapse there dragging the party down nationally. Queensland appears to have far surpassed Western Australia as Labor’s worst state, the latter having recorded only a 1% swing off the low base of 2010. The other states are recording swings of around 5% to 6%, off bases ranging from 48.8% in New South Wales to 55.3% in Victoria.

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  1. There are about 80,000 people looking for asylum in Malaysia and God knows how many in Indonesia. Are we going to fly all of them over?

    What about the millions of people living in poverty in Africa etc who are much worse off than a refugee in Malaysia? Are we going to fly them all over as well?

    If I’ve got the Greens policy right, we’ll tell them there’s a limit and they just won’t come. I’m not sure if they have a provision for the possibility that they get on boats and come anyway.

    What I’m getting from the Greens is that they’re against so many things that what’s left doesn’t allow for a workable solution. Probably hasn’t occurred to them yet that that’s why a perfect solution hasn’t been found yet. There has to be some give somewhere. If we all stand around saying, “well that’s what I believe and I won’t budge,” the boats keep coming and the drownings still happen.

    Guytaur’s “put them on planes” proposal fails to do two things – 1. Explain how that’s supposed to discourage others from coming on boats as well; 2. Explain how we’re going to deal with the ones who do come on boats. If the total AS out there were numbered in the 10,000 range, it might look viable for them to try for the plane option. But they’re not – the number is way, way more than that.

    by Aguirre on Jul 5, 2012 at 5:45 pm

  2. William Bowe
    Posted Thursday, July 5, 2012 at 5:08 pm | Permalink
    If that’s true, I think Armstrong will be found guilty and all those Tour de France’s will be given to someone else.

    “Tours de France”?

    No, ce sera “Tours des Frances”

    by Mod Lib on Jul 5, 2012 at 5:45 pm

  3. GetUP! Founder back at work and getting messages across.

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sheikh-says-tv-collapse-a-great-irony/story-e6freuy9-1226417877258

    by guytaur on Jul 5, 2012 at 5:47 pm

  4. Julia Gillard‏@JuliaGillard

    Nominations for the @ausoftheyear opened today. If you know an extraordinary Australian, nominate them here http://www.australianoftheyear.org.au/pages/page4.asp JG

    by Schnappi on Jul 5, 2012 at 5:47 pm

  5. @abcgrandstand: One of Cadel Evans’ Tour lieutenants has reportedly testified against Lance Armstrong in his doping trial: http://t.co/GRbg4W5e #cycling

    by guytaur on Jul 5, 2012 at 5:48 pm

  6. Eureka!

    I found the solution for the AS problem. We get Pell to hunt down that Moses dude and get him to permanently part the red seas!

    by Space Kidette on Jul 5, 2012 at 5:48 pm

  7. The status quo was maintained by Labor, LNP and Greens collectively. Therefor any fault is that of all parties collectively under your way of apportioning blame.

    Excuse me? The ALP voted to change the status quo.

    by Aguirre on Jul 5, 2012 at 5:50 pm

  8. Think I will nominate Craig Emerson as local hero,for services to singing.

    by Schnappi on Jul 5, 2012 at 5:50 pm

  9. Coalition pretence on national broadband lasts less than a week

    Minister for Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy, Senator Stephen Conroy, today said that the Coalition’s pretence of support for national broadband has lasted just five days.

    Tony Abbott has told the ACE Regional Radio Network, which broadcasts across Victoria, that he is ‘so hostile to the National Broadband Network’ because it is an investment that ‘we don’t need’. 1

    “This is at odds with Shadow Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull, who told the Sydney Morning Herald on 29 June, ‘the Coalition will not cancel or roll back the NBN… the NBN will continue to roll out.” 2

    “The Coalition’s position on broadband is one of total confusion.

    “The Coalition can’t be trusted when it comes to the NBN or delivering fast broadband to all Australians.

    “Only under Labor will all Australians get the National Broadband Network. Only under Labor will all Australians get the benefits of fast, reliable, and affordable broadband.

    “The choice for the Australian people is simple: support Labor and you’ll get the NBN; support the Coalition and you won’t.”

    Date: 5 July 2012
    Senator Conroy’s Office: 02 6277 7480

    1 Tony Abbott Interview, ACE Regional Radio Network, 4 July 2012

    2 http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/government-it/we-will-not-cancel-the-nbn-turnbull-20120629-217f3.html#ixzz1zFpjnHAX, 29 June 2012.

    Who to believe? Malcolm the Gretcher of Tony the fibber if it is not written down? Maybe both of them are porking each other?

    by ruawake on Jul 5, 2012 at 5:51 pm

  10. Well he sings a hell of a lot better than he dances.

    by davidwh on Jul 5, 2012 at 5:52 pm

  11. Aquirre

    Hope you have come up to Oakeshott proposal.
    Read all of that post. Those two sentences by themselves lose their meaning as the whole post makes clear.
    It is like peace negotiations for Israel and Palestine. Both want change. However the status quo still rules.

    by guytaur on Jul 5, 2012 at 5:52 pm

  12. Aguirre
    Posted Thursday, July 5, 2012 at 5:50 pm | Permalink
    The status quo was maintained by Labor, LNP and Greens collectively. Therefor any fault is that of all parties collectively under your way of apportioning blame.

    Excuse me? The ALP voted to change the status quo.

    They voted FOR their bill to change the status quo and then
    They voted AGAINST the coalition bill (i.e., amendment) to change the status quo

    by Mod Lib on Jul 5, 2012 at 5:52 pm

  13. Schnappi,

    Now Gina is selling her shares we coud nominate ger for services to the media! :wink:

    by Space Kidette on Jul 5, 2012 at 5:52 pm

  14. looks like Lance Armstrong is in the merde.

    Good suggestion about getting hold of Moses, SK. Problem is that he’d have to part the Indian Ocean. He’s going to need some of that stuff Lance has allegedly been using to get that job done, I reckon.

    by smithe on Jul 5, 2012 at 5:53 pm

  15. http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/07/05/opinion/a-carbon-tax-sensible-for-all.xml

    ON Sunday, the best climate policy in the world got even better: British Columbia's carbon tax - a tax on the carbon content of all fossil fuels burned in the province - increased from $25 to $30 per metric ton of carbon dioxide, making it more expensive to pollute.

    This was good news not only for the environment but for nearly everyone who pays taxes in British Columbia, because the carbon tax is used to reduce taxes for individuals and businesses. Thanks to this tax swap, British Columbia has lowered its corporate income tax rate to 10 percent from 12 percent, a rate that is among the lowest in the Group of 8 wealthy nations. Personal income taxes for people earning less than $119,000 per year are now the lowest in Canada, and there are targeted rebates for low-income and rural households.

    by lizzie on Jul 5, 2012 at 5:55 pm

  16. smithe,

    Do you have Lance’s number?

    by Space Kidette on Jul 5, 2012 at 5:55 pm

  17. They voted FOR their bill to change the status quo…

    It was a private member’s bill belonging to Mr Oakshott.

    by ruawake on Jul 5, 2012 at 5:56 pm

  18. http://inside.org.au/what-has-the-bali-process-got-to-do-with-it/
    The amendments to the Migration Act rejected by the Senate would have reduced the incentive for the federal government to pursue refugee protection through the Bali Process regional cooperation framework, writes Savitri Taylor.

    I have no doubt that in putting forward his bill Rob Oakeshott was motivated by a desire to discourage asylum seekers from risking their lives at sea. But if he thinks that a country’s involvement in the Bali Process is a reliable indicator of its willingness to protect refugees then he is wrong. In a previous article I explained the Bali Process and outlined the nonbinding Regional Cooperation Framework, or RCF, which was adopted by Bali Process countries on 30 March 2011. Although the RCF is primarily a framework for border control cooperation, it does contain some protection-related principles and for that reason was a step forward in a region in which few countries are parties to the Refugee Convention or Protocol. The problem with the Malaysian Arrangement – which has been represented as a practical implementation of the RCF – is that it disregards the framework’s principles for protection.

    All that deterrence strategies can achieve is to divert asylum seekers into equally irregular, equally risky routes to other countries in which protection may be found or to trap them in places where they receive little or no protection. We are unlikely through such means to spare asylum seekers from unnecessary suffering and premature death. We will simply spare ourselves from having to witness that suffering and death. If we really do have concern for the people who get on overcrowded and unseaworthy boats in an attempt to reach Australia, what we should be doing is investing in improving the protection available to them elsewhere in our region so they have less reason to take such risks.

    by Pegasus on Jul 5, 2012 at 5:56 pm

  19. Space Kidette

    Now Gina is selling her shares we coud nominate her for services to the media

    For above and beyond the call of self aggrandisement,and how not to make money with your own.

    by Schnappi on Jul 5, 2012 at 5:56 pm

  20. Kimberley Ramplin ‏@Kimbo_Ramplin

    .@telegraaf names Levi, George, VDV, Zabriskie & Vaughters as giving evidence vs Armstrong, Bruyneel et al http://www.telegraaf.nl/telesport/tour-de-france-2012/12494479/___Bizarre_deal_in_zaak-Armstrong___.html via @inrng

    by Space Kidette on Jul 5, 2012 at 5:57 pm

  21. The yanks will be heartbroken if their hero turns out to be a doper.

    by smithe on Jul 5, 2012 at 5:58 pm

  22. We should have listened to John Safran. :evil:

    Inspired by rumours in Malawi John confronts Australian politicians in Canberra to try and discover if any are vampires

    The only politician who was found to be a so-called "vampire" was Kevin Rudd who would later become Prime Minister.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Safran_vs_God

    by Diogenes on Jul 5, 2012 at 6:00 pm

  23. For those with time to read Liberal leaked policies.

    Yes, I have about 30 seconds to spare – I’ll go through them thoroughly!

    by Sohar on Jul 5, 2012 at 6:01 pm

  24. He must be having financial problems too, he has Edna doing Jenny Craig commercials.

    leone – could be. Perhaps giving up the booze has made him nastier than ever but his comments about the PM are beyond the pale. Try to see it and let me know what you think.

    by BH on Jul 5, 2012 at 6:01 pm

  25. @ABCNews24: #TheDrum on @abcnews24 starts now, with @BernardKeane @timwilsoncomau, @LobbyGleeso + @DoctorKarl on #Higgsboson #auspol

    by guytaur on Jul 5, 2012 at 6:03 pm

  26. lizzie

    a tax on the carbon content of all fossil fuels burned in the province - increased from $25 to $30 per metric ton of carbon dioxide, making it more expensive to pollute.

    Kaboom goes the Coal’s claim about us having the “biggest carbon tax in the world”

    by poroti on Jul 5, 2012 at 6:03 pm

  27. For those with time to read Liberal leaked policies.

    I will so do very carefully, while the toilet is flushing.

    by Puff, the Magic Dragon. on Jul 5, 2012 at 6:04 pm

  28. ruawake

    81% were for the NBN in that article.

    Another article a bit earlier caught out abbott as well.

    http://delimiter.com.au/2012/05/03/cooked-books-abbott-misleads-on-nbn/

    by Schnappi on Jul 5, 2012 at 6:05 pm

  29. http://inside.org.au/after-the-tears/

    At least on one issue, the opposition and the government now agree: the people smugglers are to blame. They are held responsible for the steadily increasing number of asylum seekers reaching Australia. And they are held responsible for the drownings because they cram too many people onto boats that are ill-equipped for the journey to Australia. So the solutions proffered by both major parties are presented primarily as means to stop the people smuggling trade. Neither the factors that make people leave their homes, nor the circumstances that attract them to come to Australia, are part of the narrative constructed around those profiteers labelled “the vilest form of human life” by Kevin Rudd in 2009. Australia’s politicians also seem to care little about the prospect that desperate people who find that Australia is out of reach will turn to people smugglers who offer to facilitate their irregular migration to Europe.

    by Pegasus on Jul 5, 2012 at 6:06 pm

  30. Personally BH I think Humprhies has long passed his use by date. He was funny in the seventies, but the whole palaver is getting rather old now.

    He just doesn’t know when to stop.

    by smithe on Jul 5, 2012 at 6:06 pm

  31. lizzie – that British Columbia piece is good. Perhaps Oz journos could take the time to find out about it.

    by BH on Jul 5, 2012 at 6:07 pm

  32. Michelle Grattan ‏@michellegrattan

    Did Tony leak those Coalition speaking notes to show he does have policy? Very charcter forming reading..

    by Space Kidette on Jul 5, 2012 at 6:07 pm

  33. david

    Cadel Evans has been runner-up in two Tours de France and on one occasion the winner was subsequently charged with drug offences. However he has never finished second to Armstrong.

    I think it was a time when Cadel Evans came third or even fourth. All the people above him turned out to be drug cheats (assuming Armstrong gets done). I think Contador was one of them.

    by Diogenes on Jul 5, 2012 at 6:09 pm

  34. PB very painful to read on my iPad now William. It comes up with the comments squeezed into a impossibly narrow strip in the middle, sandwiched between the ass. When you use two fingers to expand the comments column it sits on top of the left hand side ads; is unstable when you scroll; and inexplicably, some of the comments and sometimes, the page numbers, are too blurry to read.

    If this keeps up, I’ll want me money back!

    by Just Saying’ on Jul 5, 2012 at 6:11 pm

  35. Smithe – agree with you. We saw his first show and a couple of others but that was enough. He’s obviously looking for something to hit the airwaves to get some publicity.

    by BH on Jul 5, 2012 at 6:13 pm

  36. Just Saying’

    It comes up with the comments squeezed into a impossibly narrow strip in the middle, sandwiched between the ass

    Oooh sounds uncomfortable ;)

    by poroti on Jul 5, 2012 at 6:14 pm

  37. Michelle Grattan ‏@michellegrattan

    Did Tony leak those Coalition speaking notes to show he does have policy? Very charcter forming reading..

    Has anyone bothered to read the notes. I gave it a miss but what is Grattan saying here?

    by BH on Jul 5, 2012 at 6:14 pm

  38. BH,

    I don’t know. does anyone know what she waffles on about?

    by Space Kidette on Jul 5, 2012 at 6:17 pm

  39. Newslimited is so full of crap.

    As usual, nothing in the body of the article to indicate prices will “skyrocket”.

    AUSTRALIAN hotel prices are set to skyrocket following the introduction of the carbon tax, the accommodation industry has warned.

    http://www.news.com.au/travel/australia/australian-hotel-prices-to-rise/story-e6frfq89-1226418066545

    by joe2 on Jul 5, 2012 at 6:19 pm

  40. BH

    I gave it a miss but what is Grattan saying here?

    I believe she is saying “TONY HAS POLICIES ! ” .Although we know they have only one policy an omni NO policy.

    by poroti on Jul 5, 2012 at 6:19 pm

  41. Has anyone bothered to read the notes.

    I feel sorry for Amanda Clack – you get a Design degree from CSU and you end up as a Graphic Designer for the Liberal Party, nothing wrong with that except what tools do they give her? Microsoft Word. :lol:

    by ruawake on Jul 5, 2012 at 6:20 pm

  42. PB very painful to read on my iPad now William. It comes up with the comments squeezed into a impossibly narrow strip in the middle, sandwiched between the ass. When you use two fingers to expand the comments column it sits on top of the left hand side ads; is unstable when you scroll; and inexplicably, some of the comments and sometimes, the page numbers, are too blurry to read.

    Thanks – I’ve passed this on. If anyone could provide a screenshot showing the latter problem in particular, it will be gratefully received at pollbludger-AT-bigpond-DOT-com.

    by William Bowe on Jul 5, 2012 at 6:20 pm

  43. If this keeps up, I’ll want me money back!

    But do Apple have a money back guarantee?

    by joe2 on Jul 5, 2012 at 6:21 pm

  44. Last week when the political debate got hot on asylum seekers Sarah Hansen Young’s Facebook page showed many comments disagreeing with the Greens policy and their blocking the Bali ammendment. Within one day the page was replaced by a Wikepedia entry.
    Earlier this week the page was restored- but after a few more critical comments its gone again.

    by Catalyst on Jul 5, 2012 at 6:22 pm

  45. No, ce sera “Tours des Frances

    What a lucky girl is Frances! :devil:

    by muttleymcgee on Jul 5, 2012 at 6:23 pm

  46. g

    The Labor party stuck with status quo too.

    That ‘too’ is fine with me g. It shows that in your secret heart you know that the Greens Party stuck with the drownings status quo. Fair enough. It is the simple truth. Labor wanted change, BTW. It was the Greens Party and the Coalition that voted for status quo.

    Their call. Their accountability.

    by Boerwar on Jul 5, 2012 at 6:26 pm

  47. GINA Rinehart has dumped $50 million worth of Fairfax shares as she continues to push for a seat on the company's board.

    With a dump that big it beats me how her seat is still in place.
    http://www.news.com.au/business/companies/rinehart-sells-off-fairfax-shares/story-fnda1bsz-1226418105555

    by joe2 on Jul 5, 2012 at 6:27 pm

  48. It was the Greens Party and the Coalition that voted for status quo.

    Their call. Their accountability.

    Correction:

    ‘It was the Greens Party and the Coalition and the ALP that voted for status quo.

    Their call. Their accountability.”

    by Mod Lib on Jul 5, 2012 at 6:30 pm

  49. Interesting question. I imagine “Tour de France” is a trademark and “Tours de France” isn’t so my guess is that it is Tour de Frances.

    Diog, more than interesting, could be expensive if you are careful.

    Apple tried to be cute with the trademark name iPAD, which was registered by a Chinese company in 2000. Now they have paid $60m to settle because the Chinese company applied to stop Apple from selling iPAD in China as well as export from China.

    by The Finnigans on Jul 5, 2012 at 6:31 pm

  50. Fiona , thank you

    Good one to book mark

    by my say on Jul 5, 2012 at 6:33 pm

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