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Essential Research: 56-44 to Coalition

This week’s Essential Research shows no real change on voting intention, with the Coalition still leading 56-44 from primary votes of 32% for Labor (down one), 49% for the Coalition (steady) and 10% for the Greens (steady). Also featured are Essential’s monthly personal ratings, which likewise show little shift. Julia Gillard is down a point on both approval and disapproval, to 31% and 57%. Tony Abbott is respectively up one to 36% and down two to 51%, and his lead as preferred prime minister is up from 38-37 to 38-36 (I guess not too many people heard this then). A question on same-sex marriage finds 54% supportive and 33% opposed, respectively steady and down two on a year ago.

Preselection snippets:

Phillip Coorey of the Sydney Morning Herald reports Gary “Angry” Anderson will seek Nationals preselection in Gilmore, the southern New South Wales seat which will be vacated at the election by the retirement of Liberal member Joanna Gash.

• In the neighbouring seat of Hume, where Liberal member Alby Schultz is retiring, Coorey further reports that state upper house MP Niall Blair is a further possibility as Nationals candidate, together with presumed front-runners Senator Fiona Nash and state government minister Katrina Hodgkinson. Leslie White of the Weekly Times recently reported both Nationals and Liberal internal polling had the Liberals ahead in the seat, but the Nationals remained confident they could win with Nash or Hodgkinson running.

The Australian reports Matt Adamson, former Canberra, Penrith and national rugby league player, has been sounded out by the Liberals to run against Rob Oakeshott in Lyne. The Nationals have already endorsed David Gillespie, a local doctor who was best man at Tony Abbott’s wedding.

• The Victorian ALP has taken care of a whole bunch of preselection business, re-endorsing all sitting members and confirming Slater & Gordon lawyer Andrew Giles to succeed Harry Jenkins in Scullin, and United Voice official Lisa Chesters to succeed Steve Gibbons in Bendigo. The preselection for Melbourne will be held on August 26, with 2010 candidate Cath Bowtell considered the front-runner but Harvey Stern, president of Labor for Refugees Victoria, is also in the field.

• John Hogg, Queensland Labor Senator since 1996 and the chamber’s current President, has announced he will not re-contest the next election. Michael McKenna of The Australian reports Shop, Distributive and Allied Employees Union state secretary Chris Ketter is “among the frontrunners” to replace him as a Labor Senate candidate – remembering that Labor won three Senate seats in Queensland in 2007, and the party fears it may only win one next year.

Categories: Federal Politics 2010-

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  1. 3785

    Hear, hear!

    http://www.theglobalmail.org/feature/you-heard-were-stopping-the-boats-you-heard-wrong/335/

    by Tom the first and best on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:17 pm

  2. Very good.

    This is not an apology.

    by ShowsOn on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:18 pm

  3. William Bowe

    I see the famous Austrian village of Fucking is very near Braunau am Inn.

    The Austriarians may have the gold medal for place names but the Brits are knocking on the door.

    Shitterton.Brokyn Wind ,Back Passage, North Piddling….

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2188441/Shitterton-comes-list-Britains-worst-place-names-including-Pratts-Bottom-Crapstone-Slag-Lane–live-insist-lovely-place-live.html

    by poroti on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:19 pm

  4. I am not any Senator. I think that the Greens should come out strongly in favour of letting refugees onto planes. They would look more on top of the issue.

    How do they enforce a limit on the number of people allowed onto planes?

    Oh, and wouldn’t this discriminate against all those asylum seekers who can’t afford to buy a plane ticket? Or would the government pay for chartering flights?

    by ShowsOn on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:19 pm

  5. I could warm to Ms Nolan. Some nice clips there.

    by This little black duck on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:19 pm

  6. Hitler himself may have been Jewish. His father Alois was illegitimate and one of the candidates for his father and Hitler’s GF was Leopold Frankenburger a Jew.
    For much of his life Alois was known by his mother’s name Shicklgruber until he was adopted by Johann Heidler. It is sometimes said that the Nazis would never have come to power if the Germans had to shout Heil Schiklgruber! Rather than Heil Hitler!

    No, this story has been exploded. There was no Jewish family called Frankenberger in Graz at the time Hitler’s grandmother Maria Schicklgruber worked there as a housemaid (if she ever did, which has never been proved). Indeed there were no Jews in Graz at all. Have a look at Ron Rosenbaum’s excellent “Explaining Hitler” for a full account. The true story is that Hitler’s biological grandfather was probably Johann Nepomuk Hitler, Johann’s brother, who was the grandfather of Klara Pölzl, Adolf Hitler’s mother. That of course made the Hitler-Pölzl marriage incestuous. (See Norman Mailer’s novel “The Castle in the Forest” for a fictional account of this saga.) The Waldviertel area had a high prevalence of mental illness as a result of inbreeding. Hitler had a hunchbacked aunt and a mentally defective sister. This partly explains his horror of incest and inherited illness (which led to the “euthanasia” program), and also his decision not to have children. The story that he was Jewish, like the story that he was gay, was spread by the Strasser brothers and other enemies in the 1930s, and was picked up by Allied propaganda during the war.

    by Psephos on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:20 pm

  7. Oh dear Cando in trouble again with the CM. Telling porkies about PS cuts. Kennett revisited. Lots of small business owners who look after public servants will be feeling the pinch. As will their suppliers and their families. Then the government’s payroll receipts and other economy related taxes will reduce, putting more pressure on expenditure.

    Didn’t they learn anything from the GFC?

    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/editorial-the-ministers-duty-is-to-communicate/story-e6freon6-1226450440403

    Labor should remind the voting public at every opportunity of Cando being a foretaste of Abbott.

    by Rossmore on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:21 pm

  8. Confessions, I would put my bet on 250,000 p.a.

    At least.

    And where do they go given that arrivals by plane aren’t necessarily held in detention? And where are they settled once given refugee status?

    An ‘open borders’ policy isn’t quite the panacea people imagine it to be. Eg what would Australia do in such a situation once the deleterious effects of AGW really start biting our neighbours?

    by confessions on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:22 pm

  9. Tom,

    You are very straitlaced, aren’t you? A giggle or two won’t crack your face.

    by This little black duck on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:22 pm

  10. Mod Lib

    RUBBISH!

    Howard is responsible for the whole debacle by making it a political issue in 2001.

    You either don’t want to admit it or are too stupid to see it!

    New Zealand were getting more boat arrivals but it was never as big a problem to them.

    WHY?

    Because your Party originally led by Howard politicised it!

    Get REAL and beware, (no mood for crap) I have been checking the footy prices :cool: you could get killed!

    by Centre on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:23 pm

  11. You either don’t want to admit it or are too stupid to see it!

    BOTH!

    And he still hasn’t apologised.

    by ShowsOn on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:24 pm

  12. There was no Jewish family called Frankenberger in Graz

    Fcuk the Frankenbergers the Frank-N-Furters are where it is really at ;)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc80tFJpTuo

    by poroti on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:25 pm

  13. Japan urged to reflect on invasion history after Yasukuni Shrine visits – http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2012-08/15/content_15678584.htm – The 3rd Sino-Nippon War on the horizon?

    by The Finnigans on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:27 pm

  14. Centre,

    Don’t worry, Howard knows how good Gillard really is and what a total misfit of a PM Abbott would be.

    I wonder if Joe Hockey has been sneaking around to Howard’s back door to get an update on leadership challenge strategy! ;-)

    by scorpio on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:27 pm

  15. Gotta Start Somewhere.

    http://www.bikyamasr.com/75550/malaysia-to-extradite-afghan-to-australia-on-human-trafficking-charges/

    by Schnappi on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:28 pm

  16. Because your Party originally led by Howard politicised it!

    While that is true Centre, you also must admit we have some extraordinarily odious media in this country.

    by swamprat on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:29 pm

  17. Scorpio

    Good old Dopey Joe.

    Howard probably told him to get the Party to make its own choice re climate change just to get him back. :lol:

    by Centre on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:30 pm

  18. CTar1
    Posted Wednesday, August 15, 2012 at 4:11 pm | Permalink

    Fran

    “sposmadic” (Dorrie Evans, No96 1973)

    Surely young far left-wingers didn’t watch no 96.

    Dorrie had a few malapropisms. She spoke accusingly of alleged secret lovers having a “candlestein meeting”.

    by Gorgeous Dunny on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:31 pm

  19. Rossmore

    It is hard to imagine a Murdoch paper writing this about a LNP Government, but they have.

    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/editorial-the-ministers-duty-is-to-communicate/story-e6freon6-1226450440403

    by swamprat on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:31 pm

  20. Catmomma. Re the Shire. A friend of mine once described that area as “bogans and bluebottles”. He thought one was as intelligent as the other.

    by Michael on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:32 pm

  21. Back from fire brigade training where boat people was a hot topic.

    There was almost cheering from people that gillard was sending cashed up que jumpers to tent city in the tropics. Most were sick of “Gillards taxi” service. Small sample but a big thumb up for gillard from

    by rummel on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:32 pm

  22. Swamprat

    The media still want it to be a political issue.

    Let’s all genuinely hope now that people don’t get on boats.

    They’d be mad if they did!

    by Centre on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:33 pm

  23. Finns

    Why is China selling us cars full of asbestos?

    The Australian Manufacturing Workers Union is calling for an investigation into how thousands of cars containing asbestos came to be imported into the country.

    by Diogenes on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:34 pm

  24. tlbd,

    The reason the rich ones don’t come by plane just might be because they would not be granted any kind of visa.

    So, as far as I can gather from everyone’s response, the fault lies back at the point of embarkation on the plane. The asylum seekers can go from one Muslim country to another, Indonesia or Malaysia, but are unable to get visas to travel on to Australia to claim asylum. So they get on a boat and make a mockery of the fact they can’t get a visa to come here as an asylum seeker?

    OK, that much I get.

    So, if the latest disincentive policy doesn’t work, and I’m having 2 bob each way on that because of the front page of the smh which I saw when I was getting fish and chips tonight, which had a conveniently-located asylum seeker on the front page(and does anyone else wonder how the media can magically whistle up these people at the drop of a hat for a story?), and he said that he would still get on a boat to come to Australia, no matter what the policy is. What then?

    Hopefully the answer to that question is a well-organised Regional Migration program.

    Also, I definitely can’t see a way around the visa-holder asylum seeker cohort. Landing on Australian soil, as explained earlier today, allows you to get lawyered-up for the duration until the government basically throws their hands up in frustration.

    by C@tmomma on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:35 pm

  25. WB in the post that started this thread mentioned Mesdames Fiona Nash and Joanna Gash. Someone a couple of evenings ago mentioned Michaela Cash.

    Which leaves me wondering: where oh where is the Coalition’s Madam Lash?

    Night, all. Have to be on stage at 9 ack emma tomorrow.

    by fiona on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:36 pm

  26. Why is China selling us cars full of asbestos?

    Because they can?

    We believe in “free” trade. Indeed goods have guaranteed rights in Australia unlike people.

    by swamprat on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:36 pm

  27. This is not an apology.

    Wow! Two for two Showson, is this your best run ever?

    Gold medal :)

    by Mod Lib on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:36 pm

  28. fiona

    “mesdames” have not seen that for years. Shouldn’t it be Madame Lash?

    by swamprat on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:37 pm

  29. Michael,
    I’m still in shock! :D

    by C@tmomma on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:38 pm

  30. This just sucks. The High Court says Australia can’t extradite Zentai.

    THE High Court has upheld a decision to prevent accused war criminal Charles Zentai from being extradited to Hungary.

    The High Court on Wednesday agreed with an earlier Federal Court decision that prevented the Perth man's extradition.

    Mr Zentai is accused of murdering an 18-year-old Jewish man in November 1944 while serving in the Hungarian army.

    He denies the accusation as well as allegations he beat the man to death and threw his body into the Danube River.

    The federal government approved Mr Zentai's extradition to Hungary in November 2009 but the decision was overturned on appeal in the Federal Court in August 2011.

    by Diogenes on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:38 pm

  31. Liberals will always abuse history, even of their own making.

    Schnappi‏@Schnappi5

    Liberals sent me to the Malaya jungle for two years,rather be there than Liberals, Nauru or Manus,liberals are frauds and abusers.

    by Schnappi on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:39 pm

  32. 3823

    Australia does not accept refugee visa applications at our diplomatic missions overseas. They can`t get any kind of visa for Australia because Australia has a policy of refusing visas to people it thinks will claim asylum once here.

    by Tom the first and best on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:39 pm

  33. I used to work for Madame Lash.

    As a seamstress sewing up clothes for her Bondage Wear shop. To pay my way through Uni. :)

    by C@tmomma on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:40 pm

  34. Mod Lib
    Posted Wednesday, August 15, 2012 at 5:07 pm | Permalink

    Fantastic win for the government on plain packaging!

    Even better, the tobacco giants have to pay costs….how sweet it is! :)

    Can it get any better than this?

    I did you wrong, ML.

    Earlier I dared you to try to turn it into a “Labor Fail”. You have risen above that and acknowledged the great moment.

    You’re right. It rarely gets better than that.

    by Gorgeous Dunny on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:41 pm

  35. Diogenes

    This just sucks. The High Court says Australia can’t extradite Zentai.

    Why so ? He has not been charged. The “authorities” merely want to question him. Sounds pretty flimsy to me.

    by poroti on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:41 pm

  36. Thanks psephos – I always wondered why there was confusion about the Heidler brothers – I wan’t aware of the incest. Austrians the Tasmanians of the German speaking world.

    by Oakeshott Country on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:43 pm

  37. where is the Coalition’s Madam Lash?

    Planet Janet. When she finishes dusting the sideboard.

    by This little black duck on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:44 pm

  38. Diogenes,
    As I understand it, a legal Catch 22 saved Zentai from extradition to Hungary.
    He may well have committed the war crime but because there was no race hate crime statute on the books in Hungary when he murdered the Jew and threw him in the river, he can’t be extradited to face trial for a crime which came into being after that time. :(

    by C@tmomma on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:44 pm

  39. This just sucks. The High Court says Australia can’t extradite Zentai.

    I do not really understand the issues but I suspect he was charged with “war crimes”, a crime which did not exist.

    I must admit I hate the term “war crime” unless it refers to undertaking war in a criminal matter. Like the USA in Vietnam indiscriminate and widespread poisoning the country with Agent Orange and napalming villages of civilians or illegally bombing Cambodia.. they are war crimes.

    The murder of people is “murder” not a “war” crime. While the Nazis did commit war crimes the vast majority of their crimes were murder.

    I read that now the Hungarian Government may have to seek to extradite him for “murder” which of course was a crime at the time.

    by swamprat on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:45 pm

  40. Nicola and Julia will save many more lives and health than the gun buy back could ever have done.

    If were not stuntish, I would have liked them to don bullet proof vests. Which may yet be needed in the face of the horrible tobacco companies.

    Anything which decreases the chance of a child taking up smoking is fine by me.

    Applause.

    by crikey whitey on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:46 pm

  41. For crying out loud, 1944 was 68 years ago! Even Simon Wiesenthal would cringe.

    by This little black duck on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:47 pm

  42. Mod Lib
    Posted Wednesday, August 15, 2012 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    Is “libertine” bad?

    We are humming along thanks the the wonderful groundwork of the Howard Costello governments!

    Not biting on that one … but I have to admire your sense of humor. I had a genuine LOL moment!

    by Gorgeous Dunny on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:49 pm

  43. 3837

    It is a basic principal of justice that you can only be prosecuted for something that was actually against the law at the time you did it. That is fair.

    Apparently the possibility of an extradition for murder is still on the table.

    There is also the issue of evidence obtained allegedly under torture, from people who are noe dead and thus unable to set the record straight, under the communist regime for a previous trial (in absentia).

    by Tom the first and best on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:49 pm

  44. I wish the Government would pass a law to make tobacco use “illegal” with a nominal fine but with a clause preventing any prosecution for it until some undefined time in the future.

    This would allow people to continue to smoke but will STOP the mindless parroting by the Tobacco Industry and the Lioberals who are funded by Tobacco from continually saying “it is a legal product”

    haha

    by swamprat on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:50 pm

  45. Ctmomma and swamprat

    Yes, it was because “war crimes” were only brought in after WWII.

    And I agree they should have just sought him for a murder charge.

    by Diogenes on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:50 pm

  46. Why romney on lateline, they like failures

    by Schnappi on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:50 pm

  47. Is “libertine” bad?

    Dunno. Libertango is great. h­ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUAPf_ccobc

    by This little black duck on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:51 pm

  48. John Howard is not laughing.

    How could he laugh when he was thrown out of his own seat. The humiliation must still give him nightmares.

    Love it.

    by Tom Hawkins on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:51 pm

  49. Howard: “Being among the first movers on carbon trading in this region will bring new opportunities and we intend to grasp them.”

    Journalist: ”Haven’t you locked Australia into an emissions trading scheme in the next term?”

    Howard: ”Yes, I have.”

    Journalist: ”Regardless of what our trading competitors do?”

    Howard: ”Yes, but that is precisely the sort of contribution we should make.”

    Howard today: “But, but, you know I was lying at the time!”

    by Gorgeous Dunny on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:52 pm

  50. I hate the genocide of the Nazis called “war” crimes as if they were some how related to waging war (and are somehow a little bit justified by that). The murder and torture of millions was NOT a function of waging war it was mass murder.

    by swamprat on Aug 15, 2012 at 10:52 pm

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