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Essential Research: 53-47 to Coalition

Essential Research has been slow to catch the trend to Labor detected elsewhere, but it finally falls into line with a two-point shift in its latest weekly survey.

Troy Bramston of The Australian has just announced on Twitter there will be no Newspoll this evening, so I’m giving the weekly Essential Research its own thread instead. The result finds Essential maintaining a recent record of taking a while to catch up with the trend, even after accounting for the stabilising effects of its two-week rolling average methodology. Labor has made a two-point gain on two-party preferred to now trail 53-47, from primary votes of 36% for Labor (up one), 47% for the Coalition (down one) and 9% for the Greens (steady). This is Labor’s strongest two-party vote from Essential since June last year, and its strongest primary vote since a month previously. There’s even been a move in favour of the carbon tax, up three on support to 38% since June and down six on opposition to 48% – although there are now 69% who say they have noticed an increased in costs compared with 52% in August, with no increase down from 36% to 24%.

On the question of whether a seat at the UN Security Council would be of benefit, 44% say it would and 24% say it wouldn’t, which interestingly compares with 66% and 14% when the question was last posed in September 2008 (right when the global financial crisis was erupting, if that means anything). The poll also finds clear majority support for implementing higher taxes to fund the National Disability Insurance Scheme, dental health scheme and Gonski reforms, but not the purchase of new submarines (although Lindsay Tanner might have something to say about that). Sixty-eight per cent responded that a budget surplus was important “for the country as a whole”, but only 46% for them personally.

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  • 1
    Kinkajou
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 5:57 pm | Permalink

    So was the scheduled Newspoll suboptimal….will a week improve it? Think not

  • 2
    guytaur
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 5:58 pm | Permalink

    Brought over from old thread
    @Telstra: @jennaprice We take matters like this seriously. Telstra will not support the Alan Jones breakfast program -Esther”

  • 3
    Poliquant
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 5:59 pm | Permalink

    Guytaur,

    This is a seismic shift in public perception

    What is your evidence?

  • 4
    guytaur
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:00 pm | Permalink

    I don’t think I commented on Essential just posted results.

    My opinion can be summed up as a feeling by emoticon. :)

  • 5
    blackburnpseph
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:01 pm | Permalink

    Do Newspoll usually abstain on long weekends? Or in this case a long weekend in much of the country.

    On the other hand, they would get short shrift if they rang during a grand final of your football code of choice.

  • 6
    guytaur
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:01 pm | Permalink

    Poliquant

    Petitions and social media reaction.

  • 7
    jeffemu
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:01 pm | Permalink

    Just Me @ 3048 previous thread………

    How quickly did Ackerman let himself go.

    After all those years playing for the successful Brisbane Lions and now he is bloated beyond recognition.

    Bet you he can’t even do a handstand now.

  • 8
    Doyley
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:01 pm | Permalink

    Perhaps next weeks Federal Newspoll will be the September quarterly stats showing 54/46 or 53/47 with the headlines “labor loses ground after Abbott smear campaign ! “

  • 9
    guytaur
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:01 pm | Permalink

    “@ABCNews24: It’s time now for #TheDrum w/ host Tim Palmer + panel @Adam_Creighton @Jess_Irvine and @antloewenstein http://t.co/AhggUgUN”

  • 10
    BK
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:02 pm | Permalink

    Is The Great Unhingement just around the corner?

  • 11
    Poliquant
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:03 pm | Permalink

    Guytaur,

    But that could just be rusted on lefties?

  • 12
    ruawake
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:03 pm | Permalink

    Newspoll rarely poll on long weekends, was anyone expecting one tonight?

  • 13
    guytaur
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:04 pm | Permalink

    Poliquant

    Not this amount of Twitter. Not when the public pressure is so much that for the first time for Alan Jones they are dumping him

  • 14
    Boerwar
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:05 pm | Permalink

    So, guns over butter.

    No wonder there was a lot of chest-beating amongst the war mongers when Labor trimmed Austraia’s defence acquisition sails. And no wonder there has been only the slightest murmer from the defence establishment when Mr Abbott announced a Defence Policy which virtually mirrors Labor on the all-important issues of the acquisition of new planes and subs, coupled with a the development of a new White Paper.

    Mr Abbott is also sticking with his policy of changing the indexing of defence pensions. While it will garner him some votes, it is likely to make increasing defence spending even more difficult. It is a billion dollar plus policy.

    Finally, sacking a few suits might make enough to buy half a drone, but not much else, at $40 million a pop for a top-of-the-line drone. It might make the uniforms feel better as well.

  • 15
    guytaur
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:05 pm | Permalink

    sorry Poliquant

    Meant Corporations dumping him

  • 16
    bemused
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:05 pm | Permalink

    Poliquant@3


    Guytaur,


    This is a seismic shift in public perception


    What is your evidence?

    Poliquant, you are on PB, no evidence required. :P

  • 17
    cud chewer
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:06 pm | Permalink

    Simple mathematical question.

    Given the last Essential was 55 and this one is 53, and given that Essential averages over a 2 week sample,

    What is the maximum value for the most recent weekly sample?

    Is it 51? A bit more? A bit less?

  • 18
    C@tmomma
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:06 pm | Permalink

    Just elaborating on Poliquant’s contention that the Jones matter might blow over by the time the Newspoll is taken towards the end of the week.

    I’m of the opinion that this incident, if Alan Jones is unable to brazen it out and ends up ‘falling on his sword’, may indicate the point in history in Australia when the Baby Boomers lost their grip on the levers of power and Generation X took over. As they are the ones behind the push on social media.

    We’ll see how it pans out.

  • 19
    guytaur
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:06 pm | Permalink

    bemused

    :lol: like it

  • 20
    Poliquant
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:06 pm | Permalink

    Rua,

    Newspoll polled last QB weekend (if my memory serves me correctly)

  • 21
    Joe6pack
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:07 pm | Permalink

    Joe6pack
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:05 pm | Permalink

    Newman is just as bad as Abbott blaming that horrible crash on labor.
    There is nothing wrong with that stretch of road but that is not the point. The police are doing the investigations but a bit of info is that they think the driver may have had a heart attack.
    Scoring political points of peoples deaths seems to be the new lib tactic

  • 22
    cud chewer
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:07 pm | Permalink

    I heard earlier on the news that two smaller stations are dumping Jone’s show.

    Does 2HD in the Hunter carry his show?

  • 23
    Boerwar
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:09 pm | Permalink

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=acker

    Acker

    A word used to describe a girl who is not only overweight, but also resembles a duck. The word is derived from the word Quacker.

    ‘That girl Carly is such an acker! She looks like she belongs in the pond!’

  • 24
    castle
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:10 pm | Permalink

    Scoring political points of peoples deaths seems to be the new lib tactic

    Garrett killed four pink batt installers according to the libs, it is just a continuing tactic.

  • 25
    Poliquant
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:10 pm | Permalink

    Guytaur,

    The advertisers which are withdrawing their advertising for AJ show are making a judgement call. I don’t think they have any objective evidence about AJ’s comments in a 24 hr timeframe.

    That being said they are not rusted on lefties, so you point has some weight.

  • 26
    fiona
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:11 pm | Permalink

    jeffemu,

    Bet you he can’t even do a handstand now.

    … let alone a hatstand.

  • 27
    shellbell
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:11 pm | Permalink

    BB

    You can just TELL the judge it’s all over and he’ll rubber stamp it without demur?

    Yes within reason. 5 cents says Justice Rares congratulates Ashby and Cth on reaching their agreement.

    Judges like cases settling so they can get on with finishing off other work. In Justice Rares’ case that is tidying up the Lehman Bros’ judgment.

  • 28
    bemused
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:11 pm | Permalink

    Joe6pack @ 21

    I was taught to drive to suit the road and traffic conditions.

    If everyone always did that there would be far less accidents.

    Crappy road? Then slow down and take additional care.

    I am sure you and your professional drivers would do this.

  • 29
    cud chewer
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:12 pm | Permalink

    William,

    That change in responses to the question of a seat on the UN Security council demonstrates the effect that occurs when the Liberals make something a political football. It shows the number of people who just think in terms of what their “team” supports.

    Same deal with the NBN. Had it not been politicised it would now be getting 90% approval.

  • 30
    womble
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:12 pm | Permalink

    Well done re Belinda Neal C@tmomma

    I’m still supporting Berger and Woolworths for backing him – there has to be a separation between work and private lives. Yes he should be a apolitical in his work, privately he should be act as he likes – within reason – he was not representing the company at the time.

    We are not employees 24/7

  • 31
    shellbell
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:12 pm | Permalink

    I thought “Acker” was a monumentally sized zit.

  • 32
    dave
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    if Alan Jones is unable to brazen it out and ends up ‘falling on his sword’, may indicate the point in history in Australia when the Baby Boomers lost their grip on the levers of power and Generation X took over.

    Either way, the internet/ blogs/ twitter etc have well and truly asserted themselves and are going to get more and more powerful.

    The MSM/ companies etc are being talked back at with a voice that cannot be ignored.

    As usual the tories are on the wrong side of it all.

  • 33
    Meguire Bob
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    the news ltd journalist on the drum isnt helping jones or abbott

    by defending him

  • 34
    castle
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    libs very upset at woollies dropping advertising,

    click through the links of some of the lib commentators on the woolworths facebook page, takes you to the best of their feralness on show including pickering cartoons of gillard et all

  • 35
    BK
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

    Apologists for Jones on The Drum.

  • 36
    leone
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:14 pm | Permalink

    Southern Cross Austereo – owner of many regional radio stations – has no plans to dump Alan Jones.
    http://www.portnews.com.au/story/369511/poll-no-plans-to-dump-jones-says-radio-boss/?cs=257

  • 37
    cud chewer
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:14 pm | Permalink

    Is the Drum going to mention Liberal culture?

  • 38
    mari
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:16 pm | Permalink

    http://resources.news.com.au/files/2012/10/01/1226486/004188-jones-tirade.pdf
    Keeps coming out about Jones, reminds me a bit of Abbott, they keep popping up

  • 39
    guytaur
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:17 pm | Permalink

    @Simon_Cullen: Here’s @AlexHawkeMP statement condemning Alan Jones’ comments re PM’s dad. http://t.co/4yen4XVb

  • 40
    Boerwar
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:17 pm | Permalink

    shellbell

    The most likely derivation for ‘aker’ is the same root word as ‘acre’, ie, a measure of land, or a field. If so, an ‘akerman’ would probably have had an agricultural labourer as an ancestor.

  • 41
    Joe6pack
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:18 pm | Permalink

    bemused

    It isn,t a crappy piece of road. It is ok and the conditions were fine.
    As i said the police are leaning towards a medical issue but until their investigation is completed no one should be blaming anyone.Especially politicians for a cheap political shot!
    I am sorry for both the families of the deceased and the driver of the truck .

  • 42
    guytaur
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:19 pm | Permalink

    “@guytaur: Bias most blatant on Jones on the Drum tonight @abcmarkscott #AusMedia #auspol”

  • 43
    mari
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:20 pm | Permalink

    Are the commercial channels still running with Jones on their news, didn’t look so was wondering if anyone has been watching?

  • 44
    C@tmomma
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:20 pm | Permalink

    What a bunch of mealy-mouthed apologists for Alan Jones on The Drum tonight.

  • 45
    Boerwar
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:21 pm | Permalink

    So, Mr Newman is using the bodies of car crash victims as political footballs

    There is a vague echo with Mr Morris’ view that the Prime Minister should be kicked to death.

    How tastefulment of the Liberals.

  • 46
    womble
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:21 pm | Permalink

    Hope you’re right re the Boomers C@tmomma – I’m sick of 50 yo + men trying to tell us what to think

    Their time has gone, pass on the baton to Gen X before it’s too late!!!

  • 47
    Boerwar
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:21 pm | Permalink

    mari
    SkyNews had it. Inter alia mentioned the online petition – albeit at a level several thousand below where it had already got to.

  • 48
    bemused
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:22 pm | Permalink

    Joe6pack@41


    bemused

    It isn,t a crappy piece of road. It is ok and the conditions were fine.
    As i said the police are leaning towards a medical issue but until their investigation is completed no one should be blaming anyone.Especially politicians for a cheap political shot!
    I am sorry for both the families of the deceased and the driver of the truck .

    I assumed that as Newman was moaning about wanting more money, it was a poor section of road.

    This makes his antics even worse.

    Great to have your local knowledge and industry experience available.

    I take your point about the families of the deceased AND the truck driver. He will be traumatised by the experience but overlooked by many.

  • 49
    castle
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:22 pm | Permalink

    I’m still supporting Berger and Woolworths for backing him – there has to be a separation between work and private lives. Yes he should be a apolitical in his work, privately he should be act as he likes – within reason – he was not representing the company at the time.

    We are not employees 24/7

    I agree with that womble, what is the problem for berger and woollies is is prominent position as communities relations manager and his tie in with Jones and the auction, given he donated the chaff bag jacket.

    Jones’s insensitive comment so close to her fathers death not only hit out at daughters who had lost a father but wives who had lost a husband, as many of pointed out the comments and resulting laughter on Gillards mother has not raised. The libs appear to have overlooked the impact this has on women, which is of course their norm.

    berger is closely associated with jones and woollies aims at women in the household, much as rices comments cost her so could bergers support of jones.

  • 50
    ruawake
    Posted Monday, October 1, 2012 at 6:22 pm | Permalink

    How come nobody heard what Jones said – selective deafness?

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