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Seat of the week: Boothby

Last held by Labor in 1949, the southern Adelaide suburbs seat of Boothby has been trending in the party’s direction since the early Howard years.

UPDATE (12/11/12): Essential Research has Labor gaining ground for the second week in a row to attain their best position since March last year. They now trail 52-48, down from 53-47, from primary votes of 37% for Labor (steady), 45% for the Coalition (down one) and 9% for the Greens (steady). Also featured are monthly personal approval ratings, which last time had both leaders up in the immediate aftermath of Julia Gillard’s sexism and misogyny speech. Whereas Gillard has maintained her gains, her approval steady at 41% approval and disapproval down two to 49%, Tony Abbott has fallen to his worst net result ever, his approval down four to 33% and disapproval up four to a new low of 58%. Gillard’s lead as preferred prime minister is up from 43-36 to 45-32, her best result since February 2011. Also canvassed are options on how the government might rein in the budget, with reducing or means testing the baby bonus and increasing tax for those on high incomes respectively coming on top.

The southern Adelaide electorate of Boothby covers coastal suburbs from Brighton south to Marino, extending inland to edge of the coastal plain at Myrtle Bank and the hills at Belair, Eden Hills, Bellevue Heights and Flagstaff Hill. The seat’s Liberal lean is softened by the area around the defunct Tonsley Park Mitsubishi plant, the only part of the electorate with below average incomes and above average ethnic diversity. The redistribution has shaved the Liberal margin from 0.8% to 0.3% by adding about 10,000 in Aberfolye Park from Mayo in the south, and removing 4000 voters at Myrtlebank to Sturt and 1500 at Edwardstown to Hindmarsh.

Boothby was created when South Australia was first divided into electorates in 1903, at which time it was landlocked and extended north into the eastern suburbs. Its coastal areas were acquired when the neighbouring electorate of Hawker was abolished in 1993. Labor held the seat for the first eight years of its existence, and remained competitive until the Menzies government was elected in 1949. This began a long-term trend to the Liberals which peaked in the 1970s, when margins were consistently in double digits. Former Premier and Liberal Movement figurehead Steele Hall held the seat from 1981 until he was succeeded by Andrew Southcott in 1996.

A positive swing in the difficult 2004 election had Labor hopeful of going one better in 2007, inspiring Right powerbrokers to recruit what they imagined to be a star candidate in Nicole Cornes, a minor Adelaide celebrity and wife of local football legend Graham Cornes. However, Cornes only managed a 2.4% swing against a statewide result of 6.8% after a series of disastrous campaign performances. Labor again had high hopes at the 2010 election, seeing in the seat a potential gain to balance anticipated losses in Queensland and New South Wales. However, while the Labor swing of 2.2% outperformed a statewide result of 0.8%, perhaps reflecting a suppressed vote in 2007, it fell 0.8% short of what was required.

Andrew Southcott came to the seat at the age of 26 after winning preselection at the expense of fellow moderate Robert Hill, the faction’s leading light in the Senate. Tony Wright of the Sydney Morning Herald wrote that the Right had built up strength in local branches with a view to unseating its hated rival Steele Hall, and when denied by his retirement turned its guns on Hill as a “surrogate”. Unlike Hill, who went on to become government leader in the Senate, Southcott has led an unremarkable parliamentary career, finally winning promotion after the 2007 election defeat to the Shadow Minister for Employment Participation, Apprenticeships and Training. However, he was demoted to parliamentary secretary when Tony Abbott became leader in December 2009, after backing Malcolm Turnbull in the leadership vote.

Southcott’s preselection for the coming election was challenged by former state party president Chris Moriarty, following disquiet in the party over his fundraising record. However, Moriarty was only able to manage 35 votes in the February 2012 party ballot against 195 for Southcott, support for his challenge reportedly evaporating as the Kevin Rudd leadership challenge came to a head. Southcott will again face his Labor opponent from 2010, Annabel Digance, a former nurse and SA Water Board member factionally aligned with the Right.

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  • 1301
    janice2
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 11:00 am | Permalink

    OzPol Tragic,

    Why not WA’s Prof Fiona Wood?

    Why not, indeed. I don’t particularly want a male GG but if we’re to have a male in that job I believe Tony Windsor to be an admirable contender for the job.

  • 1302
    poroti
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 11:00 am | Permalink

    WeWantPaul

    The “grand conspiracy and cover up” refers to planet Fox’s line regarding the attack ont he US embassy/consulate in Benghazi.

  • 1303
    briefly
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 11:00 am | Permalink

    OzPol Tragic
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 7:21 am | Permalink

    Earlier on I clicked on to one of the U-tube links put up by OPT – to the Kennedy mass – and, like hopping from one stone to another across a creek, eventually ended up watching this as well. I am very sure Ted Kennedy would have approved….

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ46Ot4_lLo&feature=related

    Ta Briefly. That lad has the potential to be a great operatic singer of the eat-your-heart-out-Italian-singers type!

    Interesting also to watch a low-key, hysteria- & hyperbole-free panel.

    Yes…lovely impact …the depth in his voice and the sort of necessity that seems to possess him…..great moments in the mass too :)

  • 1304
    bemused
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 11:03 am | Permalink

    WeWantPaul@1276



    Hearing on twitter that Rudd and Turnbull will be on qanda next week


    And queue the Rudd haters … 3 .. 2 . 1

    :lol: Gold!!!

    What a sad miserable lot they are.

  • 1305
    Bushfire Bill
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    The slow cook aspect in opinion polls regarding how people change opinions explains the desperation of the Coalition.

    Ever since the polls turned savagely in 2001 with the Tampa business – and stayed there – the Coalition has been looking for another silver bullet.

    More like Fool’s Gold, actually, as poll results this far out mean very little, like calling the Melbourne Cup after the outbound field passes the post for the first time: a pointless exercise.

    There is a difference between polls and a horse race call, however. The early prognostications of a race caller fall on deaf ears: the jockeys’. With opinion polls, the jockeys and the horses have ears.

    As do the punters.

    Early election calls based on polls can possibly turn opinion, or hold it in place, because the field CAN hear the call and DOES react to it.

    Keep the Cup punters disgruntled with a bad call and all you have is a bad call. Keep the political punters disgruntled and they might switch off politics and governance totally. Idle minds are the Devil’s playground. Get the public to accept a meme and it’s hard to shake it.

    Make the caucus edgy with a bad poll and you can run Ruddstoration stories every day of the week.

    The polls are used by commentators to game the system. How often have we heard that the polls mean that the government’s policies and actions need not be analysed because they won’t be around for much longer anyway?

    How often do we hear the converse based on the Coalition’s polling figures? “They’re doing so well we’ll just have to accept they’ll win, take what we get, and hope for the best.” No need for policy analysis there, either.

    Instead we get belly-fluff about the role of the public service, not analysis of the actual costings of Hockey’s Carbon Tax repeal program.If ever there was an “Inside Canberra” subject, the last week’s obsessing about who commissioned what and who leaked to whom was a classic.

    Mr. “Araldited To The Anonymous Leaky Telephone” himself, Phil Coorey’s complaint on Insiders that Swan should have done a press release was just pure kabuki, icing on the seaweed. This guy has single-handedly kept Cochlear Industries in business and still whinges he wasn’t in on the story.

    The way they’re suddenly discovering that Abbott might have been trash-talking the economy (and that Gillard is being so “political”, in criticising him for it) is a hoot.

    Abbott and his cronies have probably taken a point or two of GDP growth with their Early Election and Economic Misery scams.

    We’re constantly told to do nothing, take no risks, put the money under the bed, don’t bother investing, don’t buy a house, whinge and moan about how bad things are, until Tony is elected and saves the day, by going back to… John Howard… 5 years gone this month, and last successful in an election in 2004.

    All based on keeping the nebulous poll figures up, so they can be reported as doom for the government (and hope for the Opposition). In the meantime, assume a holding pattern. Do nothing.

    Result? One stuffed economy.

    The whole thing doesn’t have to fall apart, we don’t have to “do a Greece”. All that’s needed is just a few points shaved around the margins to take the edge off profits and emasculate confidence (which leads to profits anyway).

    The clear plan for the government is not to simply criticise Abbott for his trash talking (the failed, wimpish tactic so far), but to point out the consequences of it.

    Personalize it. Give examples. Make it real.

    Someone should up and state with certainty that every time Abbott or Hockey dismiss another initiative, or mock governance, or the economy, or say there’s no growth, or refuse to pass a piece of legislation, or (worse) say they’ll refuse to pass it then quietly pass it anyway, another factory gate shuts for good.

    Every time they tell willing listeners that the Carbon Tax is ruining them, by producing faked up or just contradictory evidence and saying its genuine, they should stand accused of directly wrecking people’s jobs.

    A “Loyal Opposition” is not loyal if it tries to destroy the nation it seeks to govern.

    I see this everywhere in my “canary in the coal mine” industry. People articulate to me in no uncertain terms the notion that the economy is wrecked, with little chance of a recovery. Their business are going down the toilet because no-one is buying.

    I try to link this to the complete negativity we see in the media and from Opposition politicians, with some success, but there are still die-hards out there who refuse to even consider the argument. They tell me that “an Opposition’s duty is to oppose,” which may be true to an extent… but not to wreck.

    The early election tactic is long dead. Robb (according to reports yesterday) is now counting on a full-term government so he can get his costings and policies into some sort of ship shape.

    If an election was called tomorrow, the first task of the Opposition would be to apply smelling salts to the nostrils of Abbott, Hockey, Robb and Pyne. They’d have all fainted from shock.

    Yet the “Early Election” tactics continue to be applied, mindlessly, like the trench warfare of the “Home By Christmas” First World War. Who cares about mounting casualties?

    The poll pressure is constant. There’s no relief from it. Blips are taken as being “caused” by something. The fairy tale that hundreds of thousands of voters change their voting intention week-by-week is put out as a serious hypothesis.

    It’s similar to the erudite explanations we hear every day in the financial funny papers as to why the stock market has risen or fallen a few points here or there over the past 24 hours.

    And about as useful.

    The government really does have to stop whingeing in Question Time, to a tired gallery of hacks who don’t care (and don’t report it anyway) and start making people nervous about the Coalition’s negativity.

    “A fear campaign”, you might call it, but one that might save a nation, because the consequences of not doing something are a looming, indeed lived reality.

  • 1306
    bemused
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 11:07 am | Permalink

    rummel@1289


    I see the big snap back to the Libs happened.

    You are way behind rummel, that was a spoof.

  • 1307
    BH
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 11:10 am | Permalink

    Welcome to the age of the smartphone, and now the NBN

    I luv ‘em. 2 of our kids are now able to visit any time, weighed down with laptops, tablets and smartphones. As long as they are contactable 24/7 life is pretty cool.

    It’s so good that one son can hang around for quite a few days to help OH with jobs that are a bit difficult as he ages cos he can sort out problems directly from his ‘toys’.

    When IBM ‘ball’ electric typewriters hit the scene I thought life was made but the way it’s done now is just amazing. I love it!

  • 1308
    Tricot
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 11:11 am | Permalink

    (Health Warning: What follows is from the wild imaginings of those who love gun-boat diplomacy.)

    I reckon, while we are beefing up the navy with four nuclear subs, we should consider 3-4 small aircraft carriers, something along the lines of the recently mothballed ski-jump variety of the RN. We could probably get them dirty cheap – together with their aircraft and spares. We’ve done it before with “Melbourne” and “Sydney”.

    Station one here in WA for Indian ocean issues and one on the East coast while the other 1-2 are being refitted.

    This would really keep the conservatives happy and we would have these boats project our mighty power over the horizon.

    Indonesia, India and China please take note and shake with fear.

  • 1309
    bemused
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 11:12 am | Permalink

    janice2@1301


    OzPol Tragic,


    Why not WA’s Prof Fiona Wood?


    Why not, indeed. I don’t particularly want a male GG but if we’re to have a male in that job I believe Tony Windsor to be an admirable contender for the job.

    I would hope that gender is not a consideration in appointing the next GG.
    Plenty of meritorious contenders, both male and female, have already been identified here.

  • 1310
    lizzie
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 11:17 am | Permalink

    Yes, it’s a local problem in Ballarat, Vic, but I wish I had Bushfire Bill’s ability to put this into a larger context.
    http://www.thecourier.com.au/story/947999/botanical-gardens-at-risk/?cs=62

  • 1311
    davidwh
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    Both Rudd and Turnbull on Q&A together will be a doozy worth watching for a change. Now if only we could be Brown on the same program that would be ideal.

  • 1312
    leone
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    Why not WA’s Prof Fiona Wood?

    Would you really want to take Fiona Wood away from her valuable work and instead have her carry out meaningless tasks like shaking hands with visiting royals and swearing in new ministers? What a waste that would be.

  • 1313
    Puff, the Magic Dragon.
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 11:27 am | Permalink

    Boerwar@1273


    Leroy @ 1224

    Good pick up. Fitzgibbon aiding and abetting the Coalition again…
    BTW, the South Australian wing of the Coalition will be watching all this with very keen interest. They would be as protective of building diesel submarines in South Australia as they are of their water.

    If they think this thing might get legs other than as a bit of pot-stirring, they will strike like a cobra… and it will be into Abbott that they will sink their fangs.

    You can damn well bet on that one. It is almost inevitable that we will lose the GMH manufacturing plant at some time and the Olympic Dam Expansion, is frozen so the Submarine Project is critical.

    After the Coalition’s water debacle, if they go down the line of buying USA nuke subs instead of building our own in SA, the L/NP might as well shut up shop in this state and move everyone to Qld, before they are tarred, feathered and run out of town on a rail.

  • 1314
    lizzie
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/coffee-with-my-mate-cate-who-used-to-be-malcolm/

    Early in the year Lt Col Malcolm McGregor went to a Sydney doctor and ordered him to, “Completely eliminate this man.”

    by Malcolm Farr.

  • 1315
    Benji
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 11:34 am | Permalink

    Bernard Keane’s latest tweet:

    “Polls definitely moving against Abbott. Today’s Essential is a shocker for him.”

  • 1316
    lizzie
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 11:34 am | Permalink

    @1314

    I posted this link because I feel we are all on a continuum from full feminine to full masculine and there should be more understanding of the many shades of difference.

  • 1317
    briefly
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 11:39 am | Permalink

    GG…..former judges are usually wise choices…..Mary Gaudron, Michael Kirby….but I propose the unwise: John Doyle, aka Roy Slaven…. :)

  • 1318
    BH
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 11:39 am | Permalink

    After the Coalition’s water debacle, if they go down the line of buying USA nuke subs instead of building our own in SA, the L/NP might as well shut up shop in this state and move everyone to Qld, before they are tarred, feathered and run out of town on a rail.

    Puff – Pyne said on Sky this morning wtte that nuke subs are out and SA will be building our subs. I think Abbott was having a fantasy spike when he mentioned nuke subs or at least looking to keep Stutchbury and the AFR on side.

  • 1319
    poroti
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 11:40 am | Permalink

    Benji

    Bernard Keane’s latest tweet:

    “Polls definitely moving against Abbott. Today’s Essential is a shocker for him.”

    The tease. Dare we hope for a 50.1 tpp for Labor ?

  • 1320
    Bushfire Bill
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 11:42 am | Permalink

    There’s bloody great ad for Woolworths and one for American Express over this article, and I’m too scared to click to try to remove it lest I be sucked into some kind of credit/retail style vortex.

    Unreadable.

    http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/coffee-with-my-mate-cate-who-used-to-be-malcolm/

  • 1321
    jeffemu
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 11:52 am | Permalink

    Has anyone heard when “we” might be hearing something from the Ashby Slipper matter.

    I thought I read somewhere that a decision would be made by the 9th Nov.

    Hope it is good news.

  • 1322
    Bushfire Bill
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 11:55 am | Permalink

    And about bloody time!

    Network Ten announced on Monday that their morning offerings Breakfast and Morning News would cease production.

    The decision will also see controversial host Paul Henry, as well as co-host Kathryn Robinson, leave the network.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/ten-axes-breakfast-20121112-2978g.html#ixzz2BxuRV1hD

  • 1323
    bemused
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 11:57 am | Permalink

    leone@1312



    Why not WA’s Prof Fiona Wood?


    Would you really want to take Fiona Wood away from her valuable work and instead have her carry out meaningless tasks like shaking hands with visiting royals and swearing in new ministers? What a waste that would be.

    That is an excellent point and applies to may other worthy contenders.
    It may explain the bias toward elderly males, particularly ex-military, who no longer do much that is useful.

  • 1324
    Bushfire Bill
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 11:58 am | Permalink

    No point mucking around.

    Get ALL the pus out.

    The Independent Commission Against Corruption is widening the scope of its explosive investigation into a series of coal leases issued by the disgraced former resources minister Ian Macdonald.

    "Brace yourselves," Geoffrey Watson, SC, counsel assisting, has warned the ICAC hearing of his formal opening and the explanation of the corruption it is about to expose: "This could take most of the day."

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/brace-yourselves-scope-widened-in-corruption-probe-20121112-2978v.html#ixzz2BxvcgIkq

  • 1325
    my say
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    e noticed this morning some left out the word royal commission in to all denominations and what about organisations ect.

    Now we could have a royal mcommission in to , young people that live on the street, are many forced into prostitution, just to stay alive, and don’t for get the young men also.

    What about children that are abused by people they know perhaps in their own home not only physically but mentally.

    Then there was all the forced abortion,
    \but the question to ask is
    Do the people involved what a royal commission doesn’t one have to swear on oath ,may be there are things people do not want to be reminded about
    not all people are the same

    is it the people outside looking in that want a royal commission, this reminds me of the great movie tale of two cities, remember the scene where the crowd
    sat the woman knitting ect,, and watch the cart trundle along to where the guillotine did its job

    o and oi am not staying around to be burned at the stake
    or thrown to the lyons

  • 1326
    Bushfire Bill
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 12:01 pm | Permalink

    Has anyone heard when “we” might be hearing something from the Ashby Slipper matter.

    I thought I read somewhere that a decision would be made by the 9th Nov.

    Hope it is good news.

    It certainly seems to be taking an inordinate amount of time to decide what we have been told is Ashby’s open and shut case claiming no abuse of process.

    One hopes Mr. Justice Rares will have something to say about the way this has been a concocted media circus from the very start.

  • 1327
    lizzie
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 12:01 pm | Permalink

    Bushfire
    Those adverts didn’t show up for me – must be blocked.
    Her book is about cricket, too.

    Now, Lt Col Catherine ‘Cate’ McGregor is in his place as a brilliant and important thinker and political strategist in the Australian Army. She also is one of about six members of the Defence force who have undergone a gender change and are still serving. Ostensibly the only alteration has been in the cut of the uniform and the replacement of “sir” with “ma’am”. She is part of a band of brothers…and sisters.

    But there was no glib transition for Cate, no painless segue. Nor has there been an easy transition for his loving and much loved wife.

    At one point Cate told me in an email, “Fuck it’s happening to me and I am still disorientated.” We have known each other for around 25 years and last met as two men at the Canberra Dawn Service last ANZAC Day...

    The book, a beautifully written and thoughtful diary of the last Indian tour of Australia, The Indian Summer of Cricket, looked destined to have a finely crafted, calibrated, and reflective conclusion, positioning the author on the state of the game today.

    The final dig, Chapter 11, did a lot more.

    It said in part: “Over the course of this summer some deep and troubling psychiatric issues returned with an alarming intensity. I had actually been diagnosed as transgendered in 1985, but resolved to repress it and man up”.

    The book, to be launched on November 24 by Cate’s friend and boss, head of the Army Lt Gen David Morrison, is about cricket and that is the only basis for judging it. And it is well worth reading to reach that judgement.

  • 1328
    bemused
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 12:03 pm | Permalink

    Bushfire Bill@1324


    No point mucking around.

    Get ALL the pus out.


    The Independent Commission Against Corruption is widening the scope of its explosive investigation into a series of coal leases issued by the disgraced former resources minister Ian Macdonald.

    “Brace yourselves,” Geoffrey Watson, SC, counsel assisting, has warned the ICAC hearing of his formal opening and the explanation of the corruption it is about to expose: “This could take most of the day.”

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/brace-yourselves-scope-widened-in-corruption-probe-20121112-2978v.html#ixzz2BxvcgIkq

    On that, I am in furious agreement.

    The NSW branch of the ALP needs a thorough cleansing.

  • 1329
    poroti
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

    Some old school hard arsk priests in W.A.

    AN 80-year-old retired priest allegedly bit an ear off another elderly clergyman during a violent brawl over a parking bay in their block of units.
    The punch-up broke out on Friday afternoon in a Dianella complex, which houses three retired Catholic priests.

    http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/year-old-mans-ear-bitten-over-parking-brawl-in-dianella/story-e6frg13u-1226514219093

  • 1330
    BH
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

    o and oi am not staying around to be burned at the stake
    or thrown to the lyons

    mysay – the only solution for you to avoid becoming upset is to for you to stop logging on to read this site. You are obviously lurking most of the time so when you write that you are no longer going to blog it might be the time for you to stop reading the posts as well. Don’t allow it to stress you.

  • 1331
    MsAdventure
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 12:14 pm | Permalink

    BB1320

    There’s bloody great ad for Woolworths and one for American Express over this article, and I’m too scared to click to try to remove it lest I be sucked into some kind of credit/retail style vortex.

    Unreadable.

    Install Adblock and it will be the end of all those ads.

  • 1332
    billie
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    Fitzgibbon says “Australia should be spending 2 per cent of GDP on Defence”

    see http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/australia-should-be-spending-2-per-cent-of-gdp-on-defence-fitzgibbon-20121112-297d6.html

    but that doesn’t mean we should buy the American vapour-ware Joint Strike Fighter when Ben Sandilands over at Plane Talking thinks the MIG 21 currently flying will do everything the JSF promises for much less cost.

    Neither should we by American nuclear subs

  • 1333
    Space Kidette
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 12:17 pm | Permalink

    Can tweeting Bludgers help out?

    chris murphy ‏@chrismurphys

    Please RT #hugs4Jenna our 17yo friend @JennaFighter12 who's relapsed back to hospital and having a difficult day.

  • 1334
    poroti
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 12:17 pm | Permalink

    Rummel

    It seems you have another danger to avoid whilst fighting bushfires.

    Helicopter sprays sewage on firefighters

    http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/helicopter-sprays-sewage-on-firefighters-20121112-297gs.html

  • 1335
    guytaur
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

    “@SabraLane: On the World Today shortly, Josh Bornstein on the online petition for a Royal Commission + Tim Costello.”

  • 1336
    guytaur
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 12:25 pm | Permalink

    SK

    Done and gladly

  • 1337
    Space Kidette
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 12:27 pm | Permalink

    guytaur,

    A big thank you! She is a little fighter doing it tough.

  • 1338
    BH
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 12:28 pm | Permalink

    Why does Fitzgibbon think we should spend more on defence than countries like Canada.

  • 1339
    guytaur
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 12:29 pm | Permalink

    @abcnews: Open for comment: Does the internet need regulation? If so, should the United Nations be responsible? Have your say. http://t.co/QLbKT4IS

  • 1340
    Laocoon
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 12:36 pm | Permalink

    Some awesome pics…
    [http://www.smh.com.au/travel/venice-even-more-under-water-than-usual-20121112-2977y.html

  • 1341
    Musrum
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

    Boerwar@1273

    There will be very significant and intense pressures from US industry (and therefore US government, same thing,) to try to get Australia to buy the Virginia Class boats. It is a no brainer for the US.

    I agree with everything except this.

    I would suspect that the US Navy would be very happy for us to continue with our diesel boat program.

    Our boats have some complimentary capabilities that make them more valuable to the US/AU alliance than just another bunch of SSN’s would be.

  • 1342
    BH
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 12:38 pm | Permalink

    SK – sent one earlier. Poor kid’s been trying hard.

  • 1343
    Von Kirsdarke
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 12:39 pm | Permalink

    I’m sorry, it’s just that with all these stories going around that these men raped children and got away with it by being protected by the church simply can’t be ignored.

    They have been hushed up for too long and too many people have suffered because of it.

    Make no mistake, I know that the vast majority of the Catholic faith have nothing to do with what happened and should not be brought into this. But those that raped and those that protected these rapists need to be taken to justice.

    The longer it’s allowed to go on unpunished, the more damage will be done to the reputation of the good people of the church, as more people will associate them with the rapists. It’s a very bad look for more and more stories of pedophile circles destroying lives coming out and some people insist that the government does nothing. Proper investigations need to be made.

    I know several people who are parents. And they say that there’s no way they can trust a member of the clergy to be left alone with their children anymore. That’s the damage it’s done and can’t be undone until strong actions have been made to clear all institutions in society from this filth.

  • 1344
    Space Kidette
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    BH,

    I admire her courage.

  • 1345
    bemused
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 12:46 pm | Permalink

    BH@1342


    SK – sent one earlier. Poor kid’s been trying hard.

    What is this about?

  • 1346
    BK
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 12:48 pm | Permalink

    Teaser from Crikey today. Is anyone a subscriber and can have a look?

    Julia Gillard has pushed further ahead of Tony Abbott as preferred prime minister and the Opposition Leader has plumbed new depths of disapproval with voters, new polling from Essential Research shows.

    In Essential’s monthly leadership approval questions, the Prime Minister has further narrowed her net disapproval gap, with her approval rating remaining at 41% and her disapproval rating falling two points . . .

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    The Finnigans
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 12:51 pm | Permalink

    Some people are saying RC into Kiddie Abuse could be a witch hunt against the CC. This well known catholic found it – http://twitpic.com/b3m7tf/full

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    davidwh
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 12:52 pm | Permalink

    Bring on LibSpill :)

  • 1349
    poroti
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 12:52 pm | Permalink

    K

    Some highlights

    The Prime Minister’s lead over Abbott as preferred PM has also increased to 13 points, 45-32%, indicating she has decisively broken the long deadlock between the two leaders

    Abbott, however, has gone further backwards. His approval rating is down four points to 33% and his disapproval rating is up four points to 58%, giving him his worst ever net disapproval rating of 25 points.

    With the Greens remaining steady on 9%, the 2PP outcome is now 52-48%.

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    Diogenes
    Posted Monday, November 12, 2012 at 12:53 pm | Permalink

    I have met Fiona Wood a few times. I cannot imagine her wanting to be GG and she’s not the most diplomatic person in the world. Shes quite a character. I really don’t think she’d like being GG.

    Houston would be great; Cosgrove not so much.

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