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Comments return to the Poll Bludger after two weeks of hot-weather hibernation.

Welcome back. While we were away:

• Newspoll published state results for every mainland state except Western Australia, where an election will be held on March 9, the result for which can presumably be expected shortly. There was also Newspoll’s quarterly geographical and demographic aggregate for federal voting intention. Essential Research provided state voting intention results for the three largest states, exclusive to the Poll Bludger. Posts on each of these releases can be found below this one.

• Newspoll also published results from its mid-December poll finding improving confidence for standard of living, with 13% expecting an improvement over the next six months (up one), 58% expecting it to stay the same (up eight) and 27% expecting it to worsen (down nine). GhostWhoVotes also provided Newspoll findings from a mid-year survey into appreciation of the ABC, which was found to be immensely and deservedly greater than anything the organisation’s critics at News Limited could ever dream of.

• A generally commendable discussion paper on electoral reform by the Queensland government caught the attention of the media and the federal government by floating, among many other things, the possibility that compulsory voting might be abolished. In this it was no different from the green paper composed for the Rudd government in 2009 by then Special Minister of State John Faulkner, but such has been the Newman government’s penchant for radicalism that its thought bubbles are being treated with greater than usual seriousness.

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  • 601
    confessions
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 12:33 am | Permalink

    crikey whitey:

    Apparently charges are to be laid against a man who left a camp fire unattended in Tas which caused a bushfire.
    http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/national/15771947/man-facing-charge-as-new-tas-fire-looms/

  • 602
    deblonay
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 12:34 am | Permalink

    Republicans say the Hagel nomination would be an “insult
    to Israel”
    Where alse could the appointment of a senior minister be seen as a matter needing the approval of another country to become valid ??

    http://www.theage.com.au/world/republicans-warn-obama-on-pentagon-job-20130107-2cbyw.html

  • 603
    ShowsOn
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 12:34 am | Permalink

    BULL CRAP!

  • 604
    This little black duck
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 12:36 am | Permalink

    Mr Slipper will be fronting the beak on 15 February. Mr Abbott will be disappointed that it is not on a sitting day.

    margo kingston ‏@margokingston1
    Our @abissicus says Slipper case listed for ACT Magistrates Court on Feb 15th - http://www.courts.act.gov.au/magistrates/lists/index … Anyone want to report what happens?

  • 605
    bemused
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 12:36 am | Permalink

    Mod Lib, that Krugman article could have been custom written for you. Some examples:

    So what can be done? A smaller financial shock, like the dot-com bust at the end of the 1990s, can be met by cutting interest rates. But the crisis of 2008 was far bigger, and even cutting rates all the way to zero wasn’t nearly enough.

    At that point governments needed to step in, spending to support their economies while the private sector regained its balance. And to some extent that did happen: revenue dropped sharply in the slump, but spending actually rose as programs like unemployment insurance expanded and temporary economic stimulus went into effect. Budget deficits rose, but this was actually a good thing, probably the most important reason we didn’t have a full replay of the Great Depression.

    my emphasis

    For what the paper concludes is not just that austerity has a depressing effect on weak economies, but that the adverse effect is much stronger than previously believed. The premature turn to austerity, it turns out, was a terrible mistake.

    I’ve seen some reporting describing the paper as an admission from the I.M.F. that it doesn’t know what it’s doing. That misses the point; the fund was actually less enthusiastic about austerity than other major players. To the extent that it says it was wrong, it’s also saying that everyone else (except those skeptical economists) was even more wrong. And it deserves credit for being willing to rethink its position in the light of evidence.

    The really bad news is how few other players are doing the same. European leaders, having created Depression-level suffering in debtor countries without restoring financial confidence, still insist that the answer is even more pain. The current British government, which killed a promising recovery by turning to austerity, completely refuses to consider the possibility that it made a mistake.

    And you and your merry band of economic cretins would have UK style policies for Australia!

    Good on you mate!!! :mad:

  • 606
    confessions
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 12:36 am | Permalink

    Geoff Pearson ‏@GCobber99
    Remember Reith's $50,000 Commonwealth PhoneCard fiasco -Slipper $900 over claim on car expenses, guess which one is going to court?

    Not to mention Abbott’s crusade around the country at taxpayer’s expense telling all kinds of fibs about the economy and carbon pricing.

  • 607
    ShowsOn
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 12:36 am | Permalink

    Mod Lib, thee were questions asked about your non-appearance at the other blog which shall remain nameless.

    Did they scare you off?

    Mod Lib was too busy crying.

  • 608
    bemused
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 12:37 am | Permalink

    ShowsOn@603


    BULL CRAP!

    Shows, where have you been the last two weeks?

  • 609
    deblonay
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 12:37 am | Permalink

    Bemused re Peaches Hutchison 552
    __________________
    That post on the Eastern Bloc is an early contended…first day.!!..for the silliest post of the year
    what a feat !

  • 610
    ShowsOn
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 12:40 am | Permalink

    Shows, where have you been the last two weeks?

    Australia.

  • 611
    deblonay
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 12:40 am | Permalink

    Bemused re GLC
    _________
    What Krugman is saying might also apply to the reactions of economists and politicians to the Depression of the 1930ies

  • 612
    bemused
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 12:40 am | Permalink

    deblonay@609


    Bemused re Peaches Hutchison 552
    __________________
    That post on the Eastern Bloc is an early contended…first day.!!..for the silliest post of the year
    what a feat !

    I think Peaches needs to get out of Menzies House more often and learn a little history and politics.

  • 613
    bemused
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 12:41 am | Permalink

    ShowsOn@610



    Shows, where have you been the last two weeks?


    Australia.

    I was expecting you to do battle with all the batshit insanity flying around. :D

  • 614
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 12:42 am | Permalink

    BULL CRAP!

    ShowsOn, we may have reached the stage where that’s not quite as funny as it used to be.

  • 615
    bemused
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 12:42 am | Permalink

    deblonay@611


    Bemused re GLC
    _________
    What Krugman is saying might also apply to the reactions of economists and politicians to the Depression of the 1930ies

    Yes, but some learnt something from that experience.

    It did not need to be partially re-run.

  • 616
    confessions
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 12:44 am | Permalink

    That post on the Eastern Bloc is an early contended…first day.!!..for the silliest post of the year

    Nah. Your comment stating Sydney’s predicted temperature tomorrow is its highest ever is what idiots like Andrew Bolt have been feasting on for years.

    Goose, gander etc.

  • 617
    MsAdventure
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 12:46 am | Permalink

    Sprocket

    The Tele has changed the headline to “NSW Liberal MPs’ cap-in-hand cash drive”

    Someone must have noticed. :)

  • 618
    deblonay
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 12:46 am | Permalink

    Bemused re Menzies House
    ____________
    A strange outfit…for merely suggesting that some of the contributors had a neo-fascist outlook, I was removed and banned over the New Year
    So much for their ” there is room for all in Menzies House ” slogan

  • 619
    crikey whitey
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 12:46 am | Permalink

    William. Whatever. The above. The agendas.

    If this is a foretaste….

    May your short time off have geared you. Annus Horribilus, I believe someone said.

    New Year Best Wishes.

    Kind regards.

  • 620
    ShowsOn
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 12:47 am | Permalink

    CRAP!

  • 621
    confessions
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 12:48 am | Permalink

    ScienceAlert ‏@ScienceAlert
    The temperature map across Australia for tomorrow, wow. Stay safe Aussie followers! http://twitpic.com/bt8mdt

    What irritates me about this and general OM reportage is that Perth can swelter through a week + heatwave of temps above 40 degrees every day. Yet Sydney cops one day of 40+ degrees and suddenly it’s heatwave projections at 20 paces from any number of quarters.

    It’s summer! And it’s AGW!

  • 622
    bemused
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 12:49 am | Permalink

    confessions@616



    That post on the Eastern Bloc is an early contended…first day.!!..for the silliest post of the year


    Nah. Your comment stating Sydney’s predicted temperature tomorrow is its highest ever is what idiots like Andrew Bolt have been feasting on for years.

    Goose, gander etc.

    Didn’t take you long to get back to your old tricks of verballing people and trolling.

    deblonay @ 543 said: “If it peaks at 43 deg. or above ,will this be a record temp for Sydney ?”

    Surely you know this was a question and not a statement?

    There is another blog better suited to your behaviour.

  • 623
    deblonay
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 12:51 am | Permalink

    Confessions You have misquoted my post 543
    ___________________________
    I “asked:” if a Sydney temp of 43 would be record?
    I did NOT say it would be

    Go back and see your error

  • 624
    confessions
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 12:53 am | Permalink

    Ezra Klein ‏@ezraklein
    Wonkbook: Everything you need to know about Chuck Hagel. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/01/07/wonkbook-everything-you-need-to-know-about-chuck-hagel/

    Driving home ABC Newsradio called him Chuck ‘Nagel’ which was kind of amusing given it followed a report from Perth about something to do with a notorious pedophile called Shane Narkle being freed from prison, or something.

  • 625
    deblonay
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 12:54 am | Permalink

    Thasnks Bemused for your post 622
    Trolling is the right word for Confessions comment

  • 626
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 12:54 am | Permalink

    Bemused, I will be instituting a zero tolerance policy with respect to yourself concerning mentions of another place.

  • 627
    bemused
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 12:56 am | Permalink

    William, that is why I did not name it.
    So even allusions are out. OK.

  • 628
    confessions
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 12:57 am | Permalink

    deblonay:

    Not verballing at all, just an opinion.

    As per your smarmy, pat-on-the-back put down of another commenter.

    Live it, learn it.

  • 629
    bemused
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 1:07 am | Permalink

    Good post by Malcolm Farnsworth at AustralianPolitics.com
    Who Will Win The 2013 Federal Election? – Part 1

    Farnsworth is very sober and realistic in his appraisal of the situation of the Federal Government.

  • 630
    confessions
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 1:08 am | Permalink

    Trolling is the right word for Confessions comment

    Actually calling a commenter ‘stupid’ and guffawing with your monkey idiot support squad cheering on is itself trolling.

    You can’t define why Peaches’ comment is ‘stupid’, so instead choose to have a go at me for rating your response to him/her in similar fashion to yours.

    Despite disagreeing with Psephos on the whole Israel-Palestine thing, I’m starting to have distinct sympathies for his views simply because there is apparently nobody on the so-called ‘left’ who is capable of refuting his arguments (and those of his supporters) in logical, rational, meaningful manner.

    If you see yourself as holding superior views to Psephos and his supporters, then make those arguments. If you just want to come here to sneer and slap the backs of your idiot monkey cheer squad the be prepared to face ridicule.

  • 631
    bemused
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 1:11 am | Permalink

    confessions @ 630

    Quit while you are behind.

    You were merely accused of verbaling and misquoting.

    Such blatant mis-representation of what deblonay ASKED about the Sydney forecast temperature would be characterised by some less charitable as a lie.

  • 632
    bemused
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 1:12 am | Permalink

    Goodnight all. Things are now cool enough to sleep in reasonable comfort.

  • 633
    briefly
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 1:18 am | Permalink

    632
    bemused

    Goodnight all. Things are now cool enough to sleep in reasonable comfort.

    If only. It’s still a sauna here.

  • 634
    ShowsOn
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 1:20 am | Permalink

    William, that is why I did not name it.
    So even allusions are out. OK.

    Are you referring to Bullshit Bill’s Blog of Batshit Insanity?

  • 635
    deblonay
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 1:27 am | Permalink

    Confessions 628.. not an opinion of yours at all
    _________
    You misquoted me and then derided me knowing that your own statement was untrue
    \Tolling by any standards

  • 636
    deblonay
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 1:34 am | Permalink

    Confessions
    Both I and Bemused had thought that Peaches Hutchison equating the responses of the Left to Israel with the collapse of the Soviet Union were too silly be the subject of debate
    most people would think as I and Bemused did… quite seperately
    on this occassion

    as to my Sydney query re highest Temp. it was just that…
    a question

    How can you see a question as a statement then deny it…
    be honest you were wrong

  • 637
    confessions
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 1:35 am | Permalink

    deblonay:

    Read my 630.

    Meanwhile Maatsuyker Isl is in for a terrible next couple of days wind-wise.

    http://wind.willyweather.com.au/tas/southern/maatsuyker-island.html

  • 638
    crikey whitey
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 1:38 am | Permalink

    Shut up the wingeing, while your behind.

    It is hot as hell pretty well on much of the vast continent.

    Save your money and your decent stuff to donate.

    It will be needed.

  • 639
    confessions
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 1:44 am | Permalink

    Deblonay:

    Instead of whingeing at me, make the arguments against Psephos’ views.

    If you can.

  • 640
    confessions
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 1:44 am | Permalink

    And on that note I’ going to bed as well.

    Night all.

  • 641
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 2:26 am | Permalink

    New thread.

  • 642
    ShowsOn
    Posted Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 4:01 pm | Permalink

    BULLSHIT 52 NEXT MONDAY IN PARTS OF S.A.!

  • 643
    Dorrie Evans
    Posted Wednesday, January 9, 2013 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

    test

  • 644
    Dingbat
    Posted Friday, January 11, 2013 at 5:09 pm | Permalink

    Surely before we talk about the poor mum and dad investors that lost money in The Greatest Hoax of the 21st Century If Not The Entire Millenium we actually need evidence of who it was that sold shares and how much money people actually lost.

    If you jump at the first whiff of grapeshot perhaps you shouldn’t be in the sharemarket game.

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