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		<title>By: deblonay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2013/01/08/election-date-roulette/comment-page-57/#comment-1516762</link>
		<dc:creator>deblonay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 12:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A call for end to wars and crusades by the US
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Representing a substantiual section of US opinion  Pat Buchanan in the AMCON calls for an end to wars and crusades abroad saying that the American people are sick of neo-con warmongering  whether from politicians like McCain or urgers like Kristol and The Lobby 

Bushanan says there is now the oportunity to talk with Iran given the Hagel oppointment will  mean that war with Iran is no longer on  the agenda
He also calls for talks with Hamas re Palestine

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/hagels-critics-are-out-of-the-mainstream/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A call for end to wars and crusades by the US<br />
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Representing a substantiual section of US opinion  Pat Buchanan in the AMCON calls for an end to wars and crusades abroad saying that the American people are sick of neo-con warmongering  whether from politicians like McCain or urgers like Kristol and The Lobby </p>
<p>Bushanan says there is now the oportunity to talk with Iran given the Hagel oppointment will  mean that war with Iran is no longer on  the agenda<br />
He also calls for talks with Hamas re Palestine</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/hagels-critics-are-out-of-the-mainstream/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/hagels-critics-are-out-of-the-mainstream/</a></p>
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		<title>By: CTar1</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2013/01/08/election-date-roulette/comment-page-57/#comment-1516641</link>
		<dc:creator>CTar1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>modlib is truly an attention seeker with nothing to add.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>modlib is truly an attention seeker with nothing to add.</p>
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		<title>By: confessions</title>
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		<dc:creator>confessions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 07:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[Can you provide an example?]

Changes to parliamentary superannuation which Latham forced Howard into.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Can you provide an example?</p></blockquote>
<p>Changes to parliamentary superannuation which Latham forced Howard into.</p>
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		<title>By: ajm</title>
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		<dc:creator>ajm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 07:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2013/01/08/election-date-roulette/?comment_page=57/#comment-1516595&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blackburnpseph@2822&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Rex Patterson from the Qld electorate of Capricornia
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Dawson actually, Doug Everingham was the member for Capricornia at the time.
Correct, but I was reasonably close!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2013/01/08/election-date-roulette/?comment_page=57/#comment-1516595" rel="nofollow">blackburnpseph@2822</a></p>
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<blockquote>Rex Patterson from the Qld electorate of Capricornia
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Dawson actually, Doug Everingham was the member for Capricornia at the time.<br />
Correct, but I was reasonably close!
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		<title>By: zoomster</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2013/01/08/election-date-roulette/comment-page-57/#comment-1516598</link>
		<dc:creator>zoomster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 07:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bbp

Whether or not the Liberals expect the Greens to support them on anything, the fact is they have. Any Opposition with any nous at all would thus recognise the possibilities there and at least try to capitalise on them.

As for the asylum seeker example, all that demonstrates is that the Opposition does have the power to force the government to adopt policies it doesn&#039;t want to. That simply underlines my point, and emphasizes the extent of Abbott&#039;s failure.

It&#039;s even starker when you consider that the government has at times encouraged the Liberals to participate in policy making. Most Oppositions would have jumped at the chance to mould legislation to their liking - most political parties are, after all, trying to put their stamp on the country, and being able to say &#039;we altered this policy&#039; gives them serious boasting rights. 

The relentless negativity adopted by Abbott closed off those options to them. It&#039;s that which has made him an ineffective Opposition leader (historically speaking).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bbp</p>
<p>Whether or not the Liberals expect the Greens to support them on anything, the fact is they have. Any Opposition with any nous at all would thus recognise the possibilities there and at least try to capitalise on them.</p>
<p>As for the asylum seeker example, all that demonstrates is that the Opposition does have the power to force the government to adopt policies it doesn&#8217;t want to. That simply underlines my point, and emphasizes the extent of Abbott&#8217;s failure.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s even starker when you consider that the government has at times encouraged the Liberals to participate in policy making. Most Oppositions would have jumped at the chance to mould legislation to their liking &#8211; most political parties are, after all, trying to put their stamp on the country, and being able to say &#8216;we altered this policy&#8217; gives them serious boasting rights. </p>
<p>The relentless negativity adopted by Abbott closed off those options to them. It&#8217;s that which has made him an ineffective Opposition leader (historically speaking).</p>
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		<title>By: Gecko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 07:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rossmore @ 2812

The PM is on the money here. She has definitely started the year well.</description>
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<p>The PM is on the money here. She has definitely started the year well.</p>
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		<title>By: blackburnpseph</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2013/01/08/election-date-roulette/comment-page-57/#comment-1516595</link>
		<dc:creator>blackburnpseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 07:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[Rex Patterson from the Qld electorate of Capricornia]

Dawson actually, Doug Everingham was the member for Capricornia at the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Rex Patterson from the Qld electorate of Capricornia</p></blockquote>
<p>Dawson actually, Doug Everingham was the member for Capricornia at the time.</p>
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		<title>By: shellbell</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2013/01/08/election-date-roulette/comment-page-57/#comment-1516594</link>
		<dc:creator>shellbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 07:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick Greiner&#039;s attempt to &quot;buy out&quot; Terry Metherell cost him his job as premier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick Greiner&#8217;s attempt to &#8220;buy out&#8221; Terry Metherell cost him his job as premier.</p>
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		<title>By: William Bowe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2013/01/08/election-date-roulette/comment-page-57/#comment-1516593</link>
		<dc:creator>William Bowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 07:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2013/01/12/seat-of-the-week-solomon/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;New thread&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2013/01/12/seat-of-the-week-solomon/" rel="nofollow">New thread</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: blackburnpseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>blackburnpseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 07:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[He SHOULD have been able to persuade Oakeshott or Windsor to support him on something.]

One would think that he could have but then it could be argued that they are as policy free as the Libs. They liked what they saw being offered from the government on the basis that they didn&#039;t know what they wanted. 

It is a bit like going shopping without any idea of what you want to buy - and then impulse buying their way around the mall.

Wilkie on the other hand had a much better idea at least on the gambling front as does Katter with his unreconstructed McEwenism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>He SHOULD have been able to persuade Oakeshott or Windsor to support him on something.</p></blockquote>
<p>One would think that he could have but then it could be argued that they are as policy free as the Libs. They liked what they saw being offered from the government on the basis that they didn&#8217;t know what they wanted. </p>
<p>It is a bit like going shopping without any idea of what you want to buy &#8211; and then impulse buying their way around the mall.</p>
<p>Wilkie on the other hand had a much better idea at least on the gambling front as does Katter with his unreconstructed McEwenism.</p>
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