I appreciate this is the “historic” meme of the day (month? year? decade?) but this sort of Rudd/Gillard “he said, she said”. “he’s a saint (devil)/she’s a saint (devil)”, “handing election to Abbott on a plate” sort of banter is not progressing the debate one iota. 24 pages so far and nearly everyone could have come off a roneo machine. (Now that’s showing may age. But it is really wearying for long time lurkers who normally enjoy the to and fro of comments made here. There is such a wide range of talent, wit, erudition and common-sense to be had that I feel as if I’m now in some sot of perpetual time warp.

For most of the posters, Abbott appears to me to be the common enemy – unite and defeat the bastard.

On that note, I was in Adelaide yesterday and almost threw up my breakfast reading one article of what I see appears to be a concerted campaign by the Murdoch media to soften Abbott’s image – all bonhomie, soft heart, “one of the people” and his miraculous family.

I can’t recall the name of the author but they were having a meal together, the interview was (apparently) recorded verbatim and if I were a more innocent soul I’d have sworn the female reporter was doing something with her foot under cover of the table cloth!

Can we possibly have a day of rest? it’ll all work out in the wash eventually, without all the bitchiness and nasty comments from some posters on here.

Yes I know, if I can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen, but this has been going on for ages now. Anyway I think I’ll take the advice and go and lie in a hot bath or a while – that sot of heat I can stand.

No leadership change meant nothing was going to change with the vote as no leadership change meant business as usual and the inertia continued. Underneath the vote, all it did was harden up around the edges long standing prejudices/perception/predispositions etc of the protagonists involved.

If there was a leadership change, that would have been a systemic shock and Megapoll would have been held back for a bit while it settled. But there wasn’t, so on Thursday arvo I put it in the field to start Saturday.

Predictions for newspoll? I say Labor on 28%.]

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Then his caucus supporters are all masochists?

Basically the mad right in NSW

JG’s offer to absolve journos from any obligation of confidence last year was matched by a stunned silence from Rudd. Since then I have spoken with many people who experienced Rudd here in Queensland where he was Goss’ CoS, and the increasing and convincing evidence proves Rudd’s dicatorial attitude and backstabbing duplicity. Latham is merciless in his book, and Button’s article along with Chris Mitchell’s revelation that he and Rudd spoke ‘several times’ during last week has convinced me that Labor has no option but to get rid of him.

Gillard has been far too accommodating with him, especially because of the mess he left and the ongoing issues she has had to deal with because of his cowardice and duplicity. Every accommodation she made gave him an opportunity to betray her and Labor again. I have no doubt she will correct her mistake.

Well, we have Tony Abbott contradicting David Marr and Barbara Ramjan. Given that Tony Abbott is a known serial liar, I know which story I believe.

muttleymcgee there is overwhelming evidence that Rudd was truly awful. Sorry TP and Bemused, read the accounts of people that actually worked in his government. I heard an account from a minister that revealed an obsessive control freak.

Quite simply, if he wasnt so awful and had no alienated so many in Caucus, he would have not been rolled.

I think Gillard made a huge mistake trying to sugar coat it. She has never, properly told the people why he was removed and her role in the events.

Then his caucus supporters are all masochists?

Possum had some interesting tweets on the subject recently. I wish he would post on the subject here.

No apology required for expressing a legitimate opinion.