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Galaxy: 59-41 to federal Coalition in Queensland

Galaxy follows up Saturday's state poll with federal voting intention results for Queensland, painting the usual grim picture for Labor.

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GhostWhoVotes reports the Galaxy poll of 800 Queensland respondents which gave us state results on Saturday now brings us federal results, indicating a 59-41 Coalition lead in the state from a swing of about 4%. This compares with a 55-45 result in the last such poll in February, which seemed a little favourable to Labor at the time. On the primary vote, Labor is down five to 28% and the Coalition is steady on 46%.

There has also been Queensland state polling over the weekend from Galaxy and ReachTEL, which you can read all about here.

UPDATE: Essential Research has Labor down a point on the primary vote to 34%, with the Coalition and the Greens steady on 48% and 8%. Two-party preferred is unchanged at 55-45. Other questions find Joe Hockey leading Wayne Swan as more trusted to handle the economy 37-28, out from 35-32 before the budget; 43% believing Tony Abbott should accept the Gonski reforms against 34% who favour the existing model; 51% saying climate change is caused by humans against 35% opting for normal fluctuation; support on opposition for carbon pricing tied at 43% all, the most favourable result yet recorded; 39% favouring it against 29% for the Liberals’ “direct action” policy (at least with respect to the policies as described in the question); and only 26% believing Tony Abbott will fulfill his promise to remove both the mining and carbon taxes while keeping the carbon tax compensation measures.

The weekly Morgan multi-mode poll has Labor up 1.5% to 33.5%, the Coalition steady on 45.5% and the Greens down half a point to 9.5%. Both respondent allocated and previous election two-party preferred measures have shifted from 55-45 to 54.5-45.5, providing further evidence that Morgan’s new methodology has resolved the inexplicable discrepancy between these measures which bedevilled the old face-to-face series (as well as its Labor bias).

William Bowe — Editor of The Poll Bludger

William Bowe

Editor of The Poll Bludger

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, is one of the most heavily trafficked forums for online discussion of Australian politics, and joined the Crikey stable in 2008.

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1,883 thoughts on “Galaxy: 59-41 to federal Coalition in Queensland

  1. zoomster

    rummel

    [If you vote lib, you are going to get most of Labor’s good policys without Gillard and the soap opera.]

    And people here say Labor supporters are in denial!!

    What part of ‘no’ didn’t you understand?

  2. Henry

    rummel@1775

    Henry


    Yep, it’s an easy choice isn’t it.


    Yes it is when you are voting Gillard out….

    You’re not the sharpest tool in the shed are you rummel.
    You’re like a turkey (battle?) voting for Christmas.

  3. briefly

    [1778
    Battle Turkeys

    The “Fran Barlow” character is actually very typical. Stalin used to refer to them as “useful idiots”. Sadly they are often attracted to the teaching profession, getting their ideological claws on the minds of our youth.]

    You are so ready with the cliches, you have become one, BT.

  4. rummel

    [davidwh
    Posted Tuesday, May 28, 2013 at 9:28 pm | PERMALINK
    Rummel serious question. Do you think Abbott can make a better PM than Gillard or do you think the overall team will be superior?]

    I think Abbott COULD be a better PM than Gillard but not Rudd. Rudd pulled support from the left and right side of politics and brought them together. Gillard on the other hand managed to divid Labor party, marry the Greens and is still riding the coat tails of Kevin Rudd.

  5. davidwh

    Personally I think the election choice has become progressively more difficult since 2004.

  6. imacca

    [If you vote lib, you are going to get most of Labor’s good policys without Gillard and the soap opera.]

    But you also get the Coalitions bad ones, AND the likes of Beasty Bernardi, Gina, and their ilk in charge.

  7. mikehilliard

    Fran – just checking that you know I was not being critical. 🙂

  8. Mark the Ballot

    The latest weekly aggregation served fresh from the heuristic oven with lashings of algorithmic flavour enhancers: 45.1 to 54.9

    http://marktheballot.blogspot.com.au/2013/05/weekly-aggregation_28.html

  9. Greensborough Growler

    briefly,

    Fran’s much more tolerable since she toned down the superiority complex. However, I’m never going to agree with her outlook on life.

    Strangely, I believe she is probably a superb Lit/English teacher. That probably forgives everything imho.

  10. Fran Barlow

    Battle Turkeys:

    [Stalin used to refer to them as “useful idiots”. ]

    Stalin said a great many unworthy and deceptive things and was a brutal autocrat, but as far as I can tell, he never said this. The quote is often attributed to Lenin, but I’ve never been able to find a cite — and I have been through all 45 volumes of the Collected Works.

    It’s one thing to take a swing, but you should have a care to ensure your details are accurate.

  11. confessions

    [Personally I think the election choice has become progressively more difficult since 2004.]

    Good heavens. Why?

  12. briefly

    GG..quite so!

  13. Greensborough Growler

    Fran,

    Superb!

  14. Mick77

    mikeh 1790
    [Fran – just checking that you know I was not being critical.]
    Why don’t you two have a snog in the corner. Everyone but you mike was being critical of her and as someone pointed out, Fran is actually legally allowed to poison our kids’ minds with her Trotskyite rubbish or wtte. She is absolutely typical of the very loonie left.

  15. confessions

    Mark the Ballot:

    Thank you.

  16. briefly

    Fran @ 1782…thanks for the directions to political salvation…bound to come in handy one day 🙂

  17. Mick77

    OMG now there are other Fran groupies I see. You’ve started something real bad mikeh…

  18. Fran Barlow

    Mike Hilliard:

    [Fran – just checking that you know I was not being critical]

    Not a problem.

    GG

    [Strangely, I believe she is probably a superb Lit/English teacher. That probably forgives everything imho.]

    That’s very generous of you. It would be even better if I were an English/Lit teacher 😉

    Currently I teach a combination of D&T, Computing/IT and History — which is not to say I wouldn’t like to teach English/Lit!

  19. mikehilliard

    mick77 – your a creep. Go snog yourself.

  20. guytaur

    GoodNight

  21. poroti

    guytaur

    [
    GoodNight
    ]
    🙂

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egX9N8yOgaU

  22. davidwh

    Confessions I am starting from the perspective of a Lib voter.
    In 2007 while it was time for a change it was hard to let go of the golden era.

    In 2010 I really wanted to vote to get some new blood into the Lib ranks and I also didn’t honestly believe it would end up as close as it did. So while I had real reservations about Abbott I thought it was safe to vote for Wyatt Roy.

    In 2013 I really am concerned we will end up with TAPM so personally have to go against my natural instincts. It’s a challenge.

  23. Greensborough Growler

    Fran,

    My daughter has just returned from her Yr 12 Drama SAC which she does off Campus.

    Daresay the drama between the individuals in her team outstripped anything they creatively produced. However, she’s learnt that collaboration exists and is looking forward to a career in Theatre where everyone works together for the common cause and eschews selfishness.

    Just like in real life!

  24. briefly

    [1800
    Mick77

    OMG now there are other Fran groupies I see. You’ve started something real bad mikeh…]

    prolly has something to do with the red-baiting or the sick-making slurrings…prolly…dunno…could be the 1970’s were a long time ago…prolly just the baiting…it stinks like bad breath…like old lies fermenting…

  25. Sean Tisme

    Faulkner has said is ashamed to be part of the Labor Party today, yet we are meant to vote for them?

  26. Mick77

    briefly
    [prolly has something to do with the red-baiting or the sick-making slurrings…prolly…dunno…could be the 1970′s were a long time ago…prolly just the baiting…it stinks like bad breath…like old lies fermenting…]
    Good comment. I put it into google translate and apparently in English it means: “Yes Mick77, you are right”. Thank you.

  27. Mick77

    mikeh
    Fran will disown you if you don’t learn to spell proply:
    [your a creep]
    You are a creep = you’re a creep! Got it?

  28. DisplayName

    Mick, you have Fran on the brain.

  29. confessions

    davidwh:

    Sounds like you really want to vote on policy rather than personality. 🙂

    In that sense the choice is clear.

  30. Fran Barlow

    gg

    [However, she’s learnt that collaboration exists and is looking forward to a career in Theatre where everyone works together for the common cause and eschews selfishness.]

    Much as it should be … 😉

  31. absolutetwaddle

    Sean Tisme

    “Faulkner has said is ashamed to be part of the Labor Party today, yet we are meant to vote for them?”

    What does Malcolm Frasier think of the Liberals these days?;)

  32. Sean Tisme

    Malcolm Fraser wasn’t a real Liberal

  33. Greensborough Growler

    Sean,

    Yeah, Bob Menzies was a secret Communist sympathiser too!

  34. briefly

    [1815
    Sean Tisme

    Malcolm Fraser wasn’t a real Liberal]

    Strewth.

  35. zoidlord

    @Sean/1815

    Now I’ve read everything!

  36. crikey whitey

    Peter Van Insolent.

    On the renamed ‘Showdown’.

    Spruiking it for Murdoch. My rough translation.

    PVI. Abbott will without a shadow of a doubt will be PM.

    Interview with Mr X..gambling ads. Nick states his case.

    PVO. What about Poor Old Tom.

    Xenophon. I would not have described him as that.

    More Rich and Young.

    The possibility if you are re elected. Huh?

    (Pardon? Why so certain about Abbott).

    Nick will no question be re elected.

  37. Mick77

    DN 1813
    [Mick, you have Fran on the brain.]
    You’re right – I should get back to sticking it to Gillard and the Greens.

    I know how ridiculous and unimportant and unrepresentative our anecdotes are so let’s add yet another one: Spoke today to the widow of an old friend who died a few years ago. This couple were so one-eyed old-school Labor it was embarrassing at times to have them at a dinner party. With no prompting from me (honest) she declares she is voting Liberal and she just can’t stand Gillard and Swan and they deserve etc etc. I was speechlesssssssssssssss, for once, and found myself, Moi, defending the terrible twosome .. well you know they’re not that bad etc …!

  38. Diogenes

    [Currently I teach a combination of D&T, Computing/IT and History — which is not to say I wouldn’t like to teach English/Lit!]

    What’s D&T?

  39. crikey whitey

    FRAN BARLOW.

    I felt hugely insulted on your behalf when I read that ridiculous and ill informed attack upon you.

    You are for mine very much appreciated.

  40. Greensborough Growler

    Digs,

    S&M for Teachers.

  41. davidwh

    Crikey on the balance of probabilities the longer the Coalition holds a strong lead and the closer we get to the election the more likely we get TAPM. It’s hard to see things changing sufficiently unless something really big happens.

  42. Mick77

    Diog

    Can’t do much harm teaching D & T, Design & Technology, but cripes History “.. and then the kindly old Lenin described the evils of capitalism and the proletariat sang as one …”

  43. briefly

    Mick77, the better mousetrap

  44. DisplayName

    Mick, it doesn’t surprise me in the least that the concept of separating the personal from the professional escapes you.

  45. Greensborough Growler

    davidwh,

    Elections are decided beyond reasonable doubt, not balance of probabilities.

  46. Mick77

    CW

    [FRAN BARLOW.
    I felt hugely insulted on your behalf when I read that ridiculous and ill informed attack upon you.]

    Which one? Not mine I hope, which was informed.

  47. Mick77

    DN
    [Mick, it doesn’t surprise me in the least that the concept of separating the personal from the professional escapes you.]
    That’s not the way I remember History & English teachers at school who always tried to shove their ideas down our throats, but fortunately I was a slow learner and it was a long time ago.

  48. DisplayName

    That you can’t stand ideas doesn’t surprise me either :P.

  49. joe carli

    Tiche proclaims..: “Malcolm Fraser wasn’t a real Liberal.”

    Vee haff vays of picking zee reel Liberals!

  50. Mick77

    Well I’m gonna quit while ahead and hit the sack before they send the thought police to come and get me. Too late .. Arggggh.

  51. Player One

    [ By definition, some amongst us must be typical if Player One’s observation has meaning. One can’t be weird if everyone is. It would be an existential paradox — as even your last words seem to acknowledge.

    Personally, as a humanist, I believe people share enough experience to speak of ‘typical’ humans without implying derogation. It is quite another thing to want not to be typical. It’s merely a plea to be distinctive — someone who is not the prisoner of the elites and their interests; someone who self-examines and struggles to grasp the scope of their journey and the people who can share it. ]

    Or someone who is so obsessed in self-examination that the journey has become more meaningful than the destination?

    Or someone who is such a dedicated humanist that their humanism has surpassed existentialism and is approaching the realms of the absurd?

    Or perhaps you are simply reading more into my comment than was actually intended. Perhaps I just meant that it was weird that someone should spend so much time on a psephological site who continually boasts that they have no intention of actually voting – not even for the party of which they are a member?

    I can’t help but wonder what you discuss with other party members when you meet them – do you perhaps try and persuade them not to vote either? Perhaps you could propose a motion to rename your party the “Nihilist” party? But then, I guess none of you would vote for that either.

    On the other hand, you do at least provide some welcome relief from the constant barrage of anti-intellectual trolls that PB seems to have attracted recently.

  52. absolutetwaddle

    Sean Tisme

    “Malcolm Fraser wasn’t a real Liberal”

    I’m sure he would disagree. Given that he, you know, was a Liberal PM and all.

    If even a former Liberal PM can’t support the Coalition, why should we?:devil:

  53. DisplayName

    Don’t worry, I’m sure they won’t find any evidence of thought, with you being so threatened by them.

  54. crikey whitey

    ‘I was a slow learner and it was a long time ago.’

    Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose.

  55. Sean Tisme

    [I’m sure he would disagree. Given that he, you know, was a Liberal PM and all.]

    He was a big spending economic incompetent.

    Howard was frustrated with the mess Fraser was giving him in his big spending agenda not too different from Whitlam.

  56. WeWantPaul

    [Malcolm Fraser wasn’t a real Liberal]

    He was a lot closer than any of the clowns who followed him as ‘leaders’ of the ‘liberal’ party.

  57. davidwh

    GG #1828 agree and I didn’t suggest any certainty just more likely.

  58. absolutetwaddle

    Sean Tisme

    Next you’ll be telling he he wasn’t a real Scotsman!

    You shifty goalpost-shifter you!;)

  59. WeWantPaul

    [He was a big spending economic incompetent.

    Howard was frustrated with the mess Fraser was giving him in his big spending agenda not too different from Whitlam.]

    Hilarious Howard was his Treasurer it was Howard’s fault and Howard was the biggest spending highest taxing PM we’ve ever had, clearly he learnt nothing from his early failures.

    [ Howard supported the Campbell report, but adopted an incremental approach with Cabinet, as there was wide opposition to deregulation within the government and the treasury.]

    Incremental approach being code for ‘no ticker’ hilarious he’d chose a Treasurer just like him later.

  60. davidwh

    Well I think Fraser is to Liberal what Rudd is to Labor.

  61. Player One

    davidwh@1843


    Well I think Fraser is to Liberal what Rudd is to Labor.

    They’re both “all mouth and no trousers”?

  62. Boerwar

    Have we ever have had more ex-prime ministers alive at the same time than we do now?

  63. Sean Tisme

    [Well I think Fraser is to Liberal what Rudd is to Labor.]

    Nah, more like the Mark Latham

  64. crikey whitey

    Davidwh. I cannot see the connection.

    ‘Well I think Fraser is to Liberal what Rudd is to Labor.’

    I would have thought that Fraser is a true liberal. By your standards someone you would admire. And rightly, as it turns out.

    What is Rudd, in that comparison?

  65. zoidlord

    @Sean/1846

    Fraser was PM, Mark wasn’t.

  66. Thomas. Paine.

    Rudd is someone to hate and denigrate because he was a victim and a constant reminder of the failure of gillard. Also hated the more so because he is the only one who can save Labor from a thrashing, something that Gillard’s ardent supports vomit over.

  67. Boerwar

    TP @ 1849

    Well, that is a fresh thought.

  68. davidwh

    Crikey I just meant that both are ex-PM’s who are largely disliked in their respective parties. They both came into office with great expectations but in the end shirked the big issues. They were both given initial credit for replacing a “hero” in the opposition camp but never really lived up to the initial hype. Their respective parties would be happy if they disappeared down a hole and were never heard from again. No doubt they will both continue to be a thorn for their respective parties.

  69. davidwh

    By the way if Fraser was a true blue Liberal he would never have left it to a Labor PM to make the key economic re-structures he should have made.

  70. rummel

    Rudd supporters have been accused of trying to inflame a sledging match in caucus after Senator John Faulkner condemned new laws which give political parties an extra $58 million in taxpayer-subsidised campaign funds and go soft on disclosure rules. Mr Faulkner called the laws a “disgrace”.

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/team-rudd-accused-of-sabotaging-shaky-julia-gillard/story-fni0cx12-1226652568634

    Blame Rudd time again……. Shows over Gillard.

  71. rummel

    [While most senior Labor figures described as “ludicrous” the possibility that another challenge could be mounted with only 108 days before the election, others said it could not be ruled out.

    “How could you rule it out considering how badly we are going,” one said.]

    :devil: Shows on

  72. crikey whitey

    Boerwar 1845

    ‘Have we ever have had more ex-prime ministers alive at the same time than we do now?’

    Who is the person or persons who keep a bit of a track on this expenditure and largesse?

    It is dreadful that the taxpayer is footing an enormous bill to maintain each of these people in the manner to which they rapidly become accustomed.

    I don’t mind, to a degree, all these exies being afforded some recognition, after leaving office. For say 5 years. Max.

    But surely there should be a use by date. Given the pretty well stupendous allowances and perks well into their who gives a whatever about their pronouncements and relativity.

  73. Battle Turkeys

    I don’t really follow party politics very closely, and I had assumed that after the Crean debacle everything in Labor was settled until the election.

    But there are signs that maybe it is not impossible that Julia Gillard may be rolled before the election. There are all those resigned ministers on the backbench (including Rudd himself) and the stories about how Gillard has delayed internal polling for fear it would be used to destabilise her (as she used it to destabilise Rudd) and now this thing with Faulkner. Plus a few other leaks in the last few days.

    I have revised upwards my probability that there may be more leadership drama before September. the closer it gets the more nervous the marginal seat (and not so marginal seat) MPs will get.

  74. davidwh

    I don’t think there is any chance of another leadership debacle. This is either normal argy-bargy being overplayed by DT or just the Rudd remnants making life tough for the PM.

  75. rummel

    [davidwh
    Posted Tuesday, May 28, 2013 at 11:47 pm | PERMALINK
    I don’t think there is any chance of another leadership debacle. This is either normal argy-bargy being overplayed by DT or just the Rudd remnants making life tough for the PM.]

    Some clear leaks there David.

    Agree with the above, why would Rudd want to lead this debacle to defeat, though i think Rudd is willing to make sure its a proper debacle.

  76. Battle Turkeys

    [Agree with the above, why would Rudd want to lead this debacle to defeat, though i think Rudd is willing to make sure its a proper debacle.]

    Why would Rudd stay on in parliament and contest another election if he didn’t want to be PM again? The man is incapable of not making himself the centre of attention.

    I don’t know how he’s going to get around his pledge never to be leader again though. But I’m sure he’s already thought of that and has a strategy.

  77. davidwh

    Rummel hope you are right about your earlier comments on Abbott. We need a TAPM to be much better than I expect.

  78. crikey whitey

    Davidwh 1851.

    I think I may have at least built a small encampment in my 1855. As to your:

    ‘By the way if Fraser was a true blue Liberal he would never have left it to a Labor PM to make the key economic re-structures he should have made’.

    Are you saying then, that Labor undertook the reforms cum restructuring that needed to happen?

    And why would not Fraser have undertaken that reform?

  79. Jackol

    I still think there’s a small window opening up over the next couple of weeks for the ALP to decide it’s better to go to a snap election.

    That may involve rolling Julia Gillard in order to clear the way for an immediate election.

    I don’t have any view on who might become leader, and I don’t think it matters – they wouldn’t be planning to win or even stem losses, just take advantage of the fact a half-Senate election can’t be held until August.

    This scenario is still probably fairly unlikely, but the ALP have to be keeping this contingency in mind. It makes more sense if they’re actually planning on defending their legacy (and causing the LNP as much grief as payback next term). If whoever is likely to take over is just going to roll over then there’s not overly much point – Shorten had that strange article about giving away carbon pricing eg.

    Certainly if the polling blows out in the next week or so I think they kind of have to do this.

  80. crikey whitey

    Battle Turkeys spruiking for Tom.

  81. davidwh

    Crikey Fraser shirked the reforms recommended in the Campbell Report and left much of that to Hawke to implement. I can only assume he wasn’t prepared to take the political risk and a a result set the country back years on economic and financial reforms.

    All credit to Hawke/Keatong for taking the tough decisions.

  82. Battle Turkeys

    [All credit to Hawke/Keating for taking the tough decisions.]

    The tough decisions were made a lot less tough by the fact that the opposition at the time supported them all (and even did Labor the favour of saying they didn’t go far enough).

    The coalition saved itself from a repeat of this when they rolled Malcolm “lets be constructive” Turnbull and installed Tony Abbott as leader. Negativity works for an opposition much better than being constructive.

  83. crikey whitey

    Like the idea of Kea Tong.

    I had forgotten the Campbell Report.

    That is true. We really did have a ‘golden age’ of prosperity, full employment and a sense of adventurism.

    While it lasted.

    Sort of the rather sad sounding refrain of what is it?

    Hope, Reward, Opportunity.

    Mhhh. Sure.

  84. crikey whitey

    Batty Turkeys.

    Negativity?

    I so look forward to the possible advent of the Lodger.

  85. davidwh

    BT are you suggesting the opposition should oppose good and necessary reform just to promote their political position?

  86. WeWantPaul

    You say:

    [Crikey Fraser shirked …]

    where it was clearly Howard who did so.

  87. Battle Turkeys

    [BT are you suggesting the opposition should oppose good and necessary reform just to promote their political position?]

    I’m saying it works better in attaining their goal of being elected sooner. Whether it is good or bad or right or wrong I don’t really have an opinion on. There are positives and negatives either way.

  88. davidwh

    WWP you can say Howard if you like but he wasn’t the person leading the country at the time.

  89. Wakefield

    Fraser was more of the patrician conservative – letting markets run things did not appeal.

  90. Puff, the Magic Dragon.

    davidwh
    Are you suggesting this opposition has at any time done anything else?

  91. Puff, the Magic Dragon.

    Again, just for the hell of it. For Tony, anyway. 😀
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihd7ofrwQX0

  92. Kevin Bonham

    Boerwar@1845

    Have we ever have had more ex-prime ministers alive at the same time than we do now?

    Yes; there are currently six but at a couple of times in the 1940s there were as many as eight. The rapid turnover in the first half of the century is enough to cancel out the shorter lifespans. There have not been seven since the early 1950s.

  93. Slav G

    Kevin Bonham@1875


    Yes; there are currently six

    Wouldn’t there be 7 at the moment: Whitlam, Fraser, Hawke, Keating, Howard, Rudd and Gillard.

  94. Slav G

    Oops, sorry ex-prime ministers

  95. BK

    Good morning Dawn Patrollers.
    Barney Zwartz gives an excoriating summary of the abuse inquiry. It is written with much feeling given his personal investment over the years.
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/belated-change-in-churchs-stance-was-forced-on-it-20130528-2n9gj.html
    Zwartz with an update on settlements by the Christian Brothers.
    http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/church-victims-win-1m-20130528-2n9o6.html
    Two of our favorites, Reith and Joyce are at odds over the constitutional recognition of local government.
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/joyces-swerves-of-logic-on-roads-dont-hold-up-20130528-2n9ku.html
    Ross Gittins with a call to arms to his fellow journalists to thoroughly examine and question the policies of both side. If only!!
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/naivety-to-put-hope-in-new-broom-20130528-2n9gk.html
    Karma for the gutless one.
    http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/abbott-too-frightened-to-call-no-confidence-in-government-20130528-2n89n.html
    Not even Hogwarts could put this howler to bed!
    http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/doubts-over-coalition-plan-to-cut-emissions-20130528-2n90i.html
    And this is despite Abbott’s continuous bad mouthing!
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/28/australia-best-place-live-work
    This is as appaling as it is illustrative.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/28/coalition-tax-school-ethics-classes
    David Pope conflates Gina and Bill Gates.
    http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/opinion/cartoons/david-pope-20120214-1t3j0.html
    Ron Tandberg has a shot at the big end of town.
    http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/opinion/cartoons/ron-tandberg-20090910-fixc.html
    David Rowe with Bill Gates and a very downtrodden Wayne Swan.
    http://www.afr.com/p/national/cartoon_gallery_david_rowe_1g8WHy9urgOIQrWQ0IrkdO

  96. Fran Barlow

    To those above who, each in their own way, sought to value my contribution here or otherwise solidarise with me … thanks (a lot). It’s always a comfort to have earned a measure of respect from one’s circle of acquaintances.

    D&T is “Design & Technology” and is the entry-level course for the Technology courses offered in NSW High Schools. It includes inter alia introductions to Food Tech, woods, metals, plastics, textiles, electronics and IT/multimedia-Graphics Tech.

  97. Fran Barlow

    Player One:

    [Or someone who is so obsessed in self-examination that the journey has become more meaningful than the destination?]

    The two are equal and in constant dialog. There can be no journey without a goal and no goal without a journey. The destination may change of course, as one discovers en route that a path is lacking or fraught with unacceptable hazards.

    [Perhaps I just meant that it was weird that someone should spend so much time on a psephological site who continually boasts that they have no intention of actually voting – not even for the party of which they are a member?]

    Well technically, I do cast a vote — but in practice it probably isn’t counted as I use the Langer method. I’m against coerced voting though, and voting for the ALP under duress (my vote won’t count otherwise) strikes me as “an unacceptable hazard”.

    [I can’t help but wonder what you discuss with other party members when you meet them – do you perhaps try and persuade them not to vote either?]

    I do put the case that giving an effective preference to the ALP entails endorsing their policies as the lesser harm, when on at least one ground, it clearly is not. Others may of course rationalise doing this, and it’s not for me to badger them about it. IIRC, in the senate if you correctly sequence 90% it is counted as formal. Allowing six spots for the two parties (i.e 12) that means you only have to number the first 108. Sadly, there are some other parties that I’d not like to support either on that list so I only number the Greens and ostensible socialists. Perhaps I will put Assange in the list if his group runs.

    [On the other hand, you do at least provide some welcome relief from the constant barrage of anti-intellectual trolls that PB seems to have attracted recently.]

    Well there you go — a silver lining.

  98. WeWantPaul

    Alcopops were a deliberate marketing strategy aimed at young (even pre legal) people and a large proportion was aimed at young females – to make drinking easy – taste good and have a sexy image.

    If overaged people are deliberately buying spirits and using them like idiots it is a completely separate issue. If those who were sucked into alcopops have migrated to more drinking of spirits – then the strategy of the marketing worked – and it reinforces the importance of the measure.

  99. Diogenes

    ru

    I still can’t see why it’s any healthier for Labor (for eg) to use a unions money to advertise rather than spending their money on advertising directly.