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Morgan: 52-48 to Labor, Essential: 51-49 to Coalition

The weekly Essential Research and Morgan results both detect a rise in support for the Greens, with Morgan finding Labor support coming off a little after successive strong results in previous weeks.

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The weekly Morgan multi-mode poll finds the Labor primary vote slipping three points to 38.5% and the Greens up 1.5% to 10.5%, with the Coalition up half a point to 41.5%. That translates to 52-48 to Labor on respondent-allocated preferences, down slightly from 52.5-47.5 last week. The change is sharper on the generally more useful two-party measure which distributes preferences according to the previous election result, with Labor’s lead down from 52-48 to 50.5-49.5.

Meanwhile, today’s Essential Research has the Coalition down a point for the second week in a row to 44%, with Labor steady on 39% and the Greens up two to 9%. After shifting a point in Labor’s favour on the basis of little change in the published primary votes last week, two-party preferred remains at 51-49 despite more substantial change this week, suggesting the result has moved from the cusp of 52-48 to the cusp of 50-50.

Essential also finds 61% approval for the government’s new asylum seekers policy against 28% disapproval, and concurs with Galaxy in having the two parties almost equal as best party to handle the issue. Labor is favoured by 25% (up eight on mid-June), Coalition by 26% (down 12) and the Greens by 6% (down one). Asylum seeker arrivals are rated the most important election issue by 7%, one of the most important by 28%, quite important by 35%, not very important by 16% and not at all important by 8%. The poll also has Malcolm Turnbull rated as best person to lead the Liberal Party by 37% against 17% for Tony Abbott and 10% for Joe Hockey, and also includes further questions on workplace productivity.

William Bowe — Editor of The Poll Bludger

William Bowe

Editor of The Poll Bludger

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, is one of the most heavily trafficked forums for online discussion of Australian politics, and joined the Crikey stable in 2008.

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1,830 thoughts on “Morgan: 52-48 to Labor, Essential: 51-49 to Coalition

  1. ShowsOn

    [ShowsOn has a conscience and it is crying out for air but in a battle to the death with the pragmatic ShowsOn which is holding the conscience under water so as not to disturb things on this brief run into the election.]
    Ha! More of your psychobabble! You really must be mentally (as well as morally) fucked up to spend your time dreaming up such nonsense.

    [This pressure is manifested in the projection about me wanting people to drown because I don’t support rendition like he does.]
    You do want people to drown. You haven’t proposed a single policy idea to avoid people drowning.

  2. Pegasus

    zoidlord
    [But yet want to attack the Budget, so those who are at risk including those on Centerlink (RE: Pensions, DSP etc).

    Is at risk.]
    Some groups of voters are more important than others.
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-07-29/veterans-promised-better-military-superannuation-pension-benefi/4851736
    [Australia’s veterans have achieved the near impossible in an election year – acknowledgement from both sides of politics they need better benefits in their retirement.

    Over several years the Defence Force Welfare Association (DFWA) has argued the current indexation rules for military pensions are unfair.

    The Coalition has promised to improve the indexation of military pensions and Prime Minister Kevin Rudd will today try to match the Opposition with his own funding boost.

    Until recently Labor has been reluctant to commit any more money in the area.]
    Contrast with the treatment of single parents.

    But it’s good to see bipartisan support for a pension increase.

    In an election year, some people rate higher on the priority list if it is thought that their votes matter.

  3. Rossmore

    Fran 1718 Christopher Hitchens in his early days was a Spartacist. His conversion to a more contemporary social democratic ideal was shared by many.

  4. ShowsOn

    [All these accusations of members wanting UA’s to drown is getting boring and pretty low. I think we are following the political parties down the sewer. PB is better than that.]
    I agree. Except for the fact that Mod Lib actually does want people to drown.

  5. absolutetwaddle

    The Spartacist League are a cult-like Trotskyist groupuscule whose followers are so wild-eyed, dogmatic and aggressive in pursuit of a communist utopia Trotsky himself would move away from a member who sat next to him on a bus.

    I’m sure Fran was different though.:3

  6. ShowsOn

    [ShowsOn

    Forgive me, but what on earth are you going on and on and on about? Can’t you just make your own point rationally rather than just repeating relentlessly the same stupid accusation against MLib? It’s more than a little troll-ish.]
    I’m just stating a fact. Mod Lib is OK with asylum seekers drowning.

    He hasn’t once presented a policy alternative that would avoid this situation.

  7. Fran Barlow

    Psephos

    [and the Sparts were mostly lonely upper-middle-class kids who passionately wanted to do the same to give some meaning to their sad little lives.]

    That certainly wasn’t so in my case nor could it describe most of Sydney or the Melbourne OC at the time.

  8. jaundiced view

    I shall join you all anon. Goodnight.

  9. absolutetwaddle

    Rossmore

    I sincerely doubt Hitchens was a Spart. A Trotskyist yes, but an actual Spartacist League member, no.

  10. Fran Barlow

    Rossmore

    [Fran 1718 Christopher Hitchens in his early days was a Spartacist.]

    No, he was a Cliffite (British SWP) …

  11. Psephos

    [Fran 1718 Christopher Hitchens in his early days was a Spartacist. ]

    No, he was in IS, not the Sparts.

  12. zoidlord

    @Peg/1732

    Interesting, Coalition previously said “Age of Welfare” has ended.

    Myself I am more concerned with the lack of Automatic Portability, where by you can move to any country.

    (with UN disability rights convention ignored).

  13. Pegasus

    Centre,

    Why the preoccupation with wanting to know the gender of a poster?

  14. Rossmore

    Pseph true but his hero was Rosa L.

  15. ShowsOn

    [Centre,

    Why the preoccupation with wanting to know the gender of a poster?]
    It doesn’t matter if Mod Lib is a man or a woman, either way he wants people to drown.

  16. absolutetwaddle

    Fran Barlow

    “I’m unclear on what you mean here.”

    I was under the impression it’s about as easy to become an ex-Spart as it is to become an ex-Scientologist.

  17. bemused

    Rossmore@1693

    Weren’t the Spartacists the Rosa Luxemburg mob? She was pretty prescient IMHO

    Hi Rossmore, you were the centre of attention earlier today when there was a photo of an old guy heckling Abbott. I reckon it was you as it was down your way. 😉

  18. Mod Lib

    [jaundiced view
    Posted Tuesday, July 30, 2013 at 11:18 pm | PERMALINK
    I shall join you all anon. Goodnight.]

    Goodnight. Time for my much needed but usually ineffectual beauty sleep too.

    I think it is only fair to give ShowsOn some time to come up with a reason how he was not a supporter of drowning using his own logic 🙂

    Hehe, aint karma ace?

  19. Rossmore

    My personal journey was heavily influenced thru involvement with Big Flame in the late 70s …

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Flame_(political_group)

    Not sure there was an Oz equivalent ….

  20. lefty e

    An AMerican lefty friend of mine once put this well:

    “Maoists? Hey, at least you can talk to Maoists. Spartacism?? Thats not a political tendency – its a mental disease!”

  21. Rossmore

    Hi Bemused ye I saw that , very droll. I tend to avoid frequenting local RSLs, hereabouts.

  22. Sean Tisme

    Doesn’t low interest rates mean the economy is rooted?

    Europe…. U.S… Japan… etc etc etc

  23. Psephos

    [Pseph true but his hero was Rosa L.]

    The Spartacist League had no actual connection with the German Spartakus group, they just borrowed the name. Rosa Luxemburg would have looked on them with horror.

  24. Pegasus

    I am surprised no one has complained about how rude Trioli (sp?) was when interviewing Milne…so many interruptions and talking over her 😉

  25. Marrickville Mauler

    Zoidlord, can you expand on your #1742 re the Convention on the RIghts of Persons with Disabilities? In my professional capacity I have had quite a lot to do with said instrument but I dont understand your reference. Thanks. MM

  26. zoidlord

    @Sean/1752

    So you saying Howard was Lying ?

  27. ShowsOn

    [Goodnight. Time for my much needed but usually ineffectual beauty sleep too.]
    So you’re pissing off again because you are too gutless to defend yourself!
    [I think it is only fair to give ShowsOn some time to come up with a reason how he was not a supporter of drowning using his own logic :)]
    That’s correct. I wasn’t a supporter of drowning. Thank you for stating the bleeding obvious.

    You on the other hand are morally reprehensible because according to your own evidence you have consistently supported asylum seekers drowning!

    I haven’t even once read you criticise what Howard did over the Tampa affair!

    But I guess he can do whatever he wants because he’s a Liberal and you ultimately couldn’t care less just as long as the Coalition win elections!

    Could that be PRAGMATISM on your part!?

  28. ShowsOn

    [Doesn’t low interest rates mean the economy is rooted?]
    Only if don’t have a clue about economics.

  29. sohar

    “Doesn’t low interest rates mean the economy is rooted?” – That’s right, John Howard said “The economy will always be more rooted under a Liberal government”.

  30. lefty e

    Unbelievable!

    [The Coalition’s pledge to build a tent city for up to 2,000 asylum seekers on Nauru has been caught up in an alleged conflict of interest controversy.

    Opposition immigration spokesman Scott Morrison travelled to Nauru to make the policy announcement at the expense of the logistics company Toll Holdings, a provider of tents.

    Toll’s own website says: “We deliver camp and base logistics in remote locations”.]

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-07-30/coalition-accused-of-conflict-of-interest-over-nauru-tent-plan/4854280

  31. AussieAchmed

    Sean Tisme

    Posted Tuesday, July 30, 2013 at 11:25 pm | Permalink

    Doesn’t low interest rates mean the economy is rooted?

    Europe…. U.S… Japan… etc etc etc
    ————————————————–

    Tony Tony Tony …….don’t you remember anything from your economics classes?

  32. bemused

    Rossmore@1749

    My personal journey was heavily influenced thru involvement with Big Flame in the late 70s …

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Flame_(political_group)

    Not sure there was an Oz equivalent ….

    Never heard of them.

    Fascinating to read all this Trot stuff tonight and to discover that Psephos was once a Maoist.

    Ah the memories of doing battle with the Trots when they tried to take over the Victorian Young Labor Association. We didn’t have enough ice picks to go around so we just expelled them in the end. 👿

  33. Rossmore

    Pseph 1753 thanks for that, I had assumed there was a direct lineage with Rosa L. How did the Oz Spartacists world view differ from Rosa L? Were they a uniquely Oz phenomenon? Sounds like they were a particularly self-absorbed group?

  34. absolutetwaddle

    I can understand being a member of the Sparts in the 60s or 70s. Kind of.

    But being a Spartacist in 2013? Believing that Australia is going to radically shift to organising society along Trotskyist lines? I mean REALLY? That sort of stuff would interfere with Masterchef!

  35. Fran Barlow

    absolutetwaddle:

    [I was under the impression it’s about as easy to become an ex-Spart as it is to become an ex-Scientologist.]

    Oh no. The Healyites (later, the Northites) were a bit like that, but the SL saw themselves as a cadre organisation with a regroupment perspective rather than as a party on the verge of becoming the vanguard of the class.

    It was hard for more than a few recruits to cope with the disciplines of party life, so departures were common.

    There were a series of gradations between the party and the non-party … contact, disciplined sympathiser, probationary member etc …

    People guilty of minor breaches of discipline could be dropped a level very easily. Members really saw being in the party as being a bit like joining an army — a red army in embryo.

    Some liked it and others, not so much.

  36. bemused

    Rossmore@1751

    Hi Bemused ye I saw that , very droll. I tend to avoid frequenting local RSLs, hereabouts.

    Are you claiming it wasn’t you???

    I don’t believe it. 👿

  37. Rossmore

    Fran Barlow 1765 that sounds like a recruitment manual for the Scientologists…

  38. absolutetwaddle

    Rossmore

    The Spartacist League really is a tiny group – and that’s by Trotskyist standards. It’s hard to find much ‘unbiased’ info on them, but the anarchist blogger Slackbastard writes about them occasionally. Give them a Google.

    You have to meet one to truly understand. Wild-eyed and pushy doesn’t begin to describe it, they’re really the communist equivalent of that guy between sandwich boards on a city corner yelling about The Rapture.

  39. Fran Barlow

    Oddly, I also started my life as an avowed far leftist with the CPA-ML before leaving them for the SL/ANZ …

  40. sustainable future

    Pseph was a maoist! what is it with Maoists and later life swings to the right – weren’t windshuttle and the late christopher pearson old maoists? at least you pulled up shport of their extremes and stayed basically on the side of good. I avoided all the left club joining at uni. I’ve never had too much time for fanatics of any creed and by the 1980s most were just elite private school ‘rebels’ – vivian in the young ones was about spot on.

  41. the spectator

    economy rooted i think not aust rates 275% higher than the us at 0%

  42. zoidlord

    @Marrickville Mauler/1755

    The recent changes to the recent budget of which both Coalition Party and Labor have supported.

    Also Past changes by the Coalition Party have also done this.

    http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Senate_Committees?url=clac_ctte/completed_inquiries/2010-13/socialsecurity2012budget/index.htm

    http://www.humanservices.gov.au/corporate/publications-and-resources/budget/1213/

  43. ShowsOn

    [There were a series of gradations between the party and the non-party … contact, disciplined sympathiser, probationary member etc …

    People guilty of minor breaches of discipline could be dropped a level very easily. Members really saw being in the party as being a bit like joining an army — a red army in embryo.]
    This sounds like a religious cult, not a political party.

  44. lefty e

    I recall the Sparts’ review of Black Deaths in Custody somewhere in the 1990s, which concluded that the issue was essentially all about class. As opposed the more obvious candidate of race, an apparent red-herring which has suckered the ‘soft’ left, and for that matter, roughly 100% of Aboriginal activists themselves.

    It was either them or the SLL.

    Beyond satire, and beyond help.

  45. Rossmore

    Have the Sparts rebadged as The Greens?

  46. Psephos

    [ haven’t even once read you criticise what Howard did over the Tampa affair!

    But I guess he can do whatever he wants because he’s a Liberal and you ultimately couldn’t care less just as long as the Coalition win elections!]

    Do try to remember that Labor supported almost everything Howard did in relation to the Tampa, and rightly so. Whatever one might think about boat arrivals, to have rewarded hijacking by letting the Tampa hijackers land would have set a very bad precedent. It was bad enough that Howard eventually let most of them come to Australia.

  47. Fran Barlow

    AbsoluteTwaddle

    It’s now been a very long time since I was a member and I haven’t even had a subscription to their papers in more than a decade, nor have I bumped into any of them in about twice that long. I now have some very serious objections to some of the claims they make.

    That said, your description of them is unfair, IMO. They are very intense, but if you know your leftwing history, you can always get a robust and erudite discussion.

    While I essentially abandoned their perspective in the early 1990s, I continue to look back with fondness for my time with them. They were the most honest group of people I’ve ever met and known well enough to evaluate. They attached enormous importance to study and debate and were intolerant of sloppy argument, even in the service of the cause. And they believed absolutely in the struggle for the revolution which defined their purpose.

    Those are things I can very much respect, even though I no longer share their perspective.

  48. imacca

    [Beyond satire, and beyond help.]

    Dont know about beyond satire?? They sound a bit like an offshoot of the Judean Peoples Liberation Front to me. 🙂

  49. lefty e

    Beyond help anyway!

  50. Psephos

    [what is it with Maoists and later life swings to the right – weren’t windshuttle and the late christopher pearson old maoists?]

    Windshuttle was, I don’t know about Pearson.

    Maoism was a very unsophisticated form of leftism. Trots had read piles of boring theory, whereas we only had to memorise the Little Red Book. Maoism was essentially about action. You could join the Maoists one day and be smashing windows the next. In the atmosphere of 1971 at the height of the Vietnam War, being a Maoist was all fun and no boring stuff. But of course it wore off after a year or so.

  51. AussieAchmed

    haven’t even once read you criticise what Howard did over the Tampa affair!

    and yet no criticism of the Liberals agreeing to dismantle the Pacific Solution

  52. Fran Barlow

    Rossmore:

    [Have the Sparts rebadged as The Greens?]

    Certainly not. That would be anathema to them, for reasons I explained earlier.

  53. lefty e

    Made the ISO look like reasonable-minded Fabians.

    Oh, and Rossmore: I can guarantee you there are far more Trots in the ALP than the GRNs. Thats a fact. They’re called “entrists”, there’s a small movement of them, has been for donkeys.

  54. absolutetwaddle

    Fran

    Understood. I’ve only had contact with members of the SL at a few protests in my years at university (I’m 28). Back in the day I’m sure they were somewhat less psychotic.

  55. bemused
  56. Rossmore

    Imacca 1779 … I was waiting for that Life of Brian link… 🙂

  57. ShowsOn

    [Do try to remember that Labor supported almost everything Howard did in relation to the Tampa, and rightly so. Whatever one might think about boat arrivals, to have rewarded hijacking by letting the Tampa hijackers land would have set a very bad precedent. It was bad enough that Howard eventually let most of them come to Australia.]
    I’m more than happy to have a discussion about the Tampa fiasco with Mod Lib.

    But isn’t it telling that she goes out of her way to not criticise any Liberal actions on the issue? Why wasn’t she attacking the Nauru tent ‘solution’ tonight for example?

    Isn’t it convenient that she doesn’t concede that it is the Liberals that are constantly working over time to find controversy in the issue? And that it was the Howard government that broke about a 25 year bipartisan consensus?

    Could it be that Mod Lib doesn’t like admitting that it is the Liberal and National Parties that work over time to keep this issue in the papers, and even the boats coming along, because they score a lot of political mileage out of it? The actual welfare of the asylum seekers is very much a second or third order issue for the Coalition parties.

    But Mod Lib can’t say that, because she supports Coalition governments!

  58. Rossmore

    Fran B 1783 Have ex-Spartacists rebadged as The Greens?

  59. bemused

    lefty e@1784

    Made the ISO look like reasonable-minded Fabians.

    Oh, and Rossmore: I can guarantee you there are far more Trots in the ALP than the GRNs. Thats a fact. They’re called “entrists”, there’s a small movement of them, has been for donkeys.

    “Entrism” is a long-standing Trotskyist strategy.

    People can join the ALP with all sorts of weird ideas, but if they are also a member of an organisation that runs candidates in elections they should resign or be expelled.

  60. Fran Barlow

    Well technically, in my case, yes, but the hiatus between my break of organisational contact with the SL and my membership of the Greens was at least 16 years, so ‘rebadged’ is not the right term.

    I’m alos yet to meet another ex-member in The Greens.

  61. bemused

    Rossmore@1789

    Fran B 1783 Have ex-Spartacists rebadged as The Greens?

    More the Greens have acted as a magnet for all sorts of cranks and ratbags. 😛

    I shouldn’t complain. In the past the ALP got burdened with many such people. Now they go to the Greens. 😆

  62. itsthevibe

    For the record, the Joe Hockey comparisons earlier today were not appreciated.

  63. absolutetwaddle

    Fairly sure the Sparts don’t practise entrism. Really not their MO.

  64. lefty e

    Agree Bemused. One show at a time. But most of the entrists are happy to abide that principle.

    [Have ex-Spartacists rebadged as The Greens]

    Nah, ex-Sparts are more likely to become radical non-voters. Or something equally pointless principled.

  65. bemused

    absolutetwaddle@1794

    Fairly sure the Sparts don’t practise entrism. Really not their MO.

    SWL/SYA certainly did.
    They came close to taking over the Victorian Young Labor Association in the early 70s.

  66. absolutetwaddle

    Speaking of entrism the Militant Tendency experiment in the British Labour Party was truly fascinating. There are a few docos on the subject on YouTube.

  67. Rossmore

    Fran, 1791, fair enough and thanks for your honesty. I left the far left in 82, convinced that a mainstream social democratic party with left leaning credentials offered the best political prospects. Still hold that view….

  68. lefty e

    The entrist Trot deal is even bigger in the UK Labour Party, I believe

  69. bemused

    lefty e@1795



    Have ex-Spartacists rebadged as The Greens


    Nah, ex-Sparts are more likely to become radical non-voters. Or something equally pointless principled.

    Oh… Borewar must be one of them. 😛

  70. absolutetwaddle

    I’m an ex-Trot too. Socialist Alternative.

    Forever ashamed.:/

  71. Fran Barlow

    Bemused

    [“Entrism” is a long-standing Trotskyist strategy]

    Yes and no. Entrism sui generis (i.e. longterm entry with the idea of manipulating the host for the ends of the party) was really a Pabloite strategy, which orthodox Trotskyists despised, precisely because it spat on the notion advanced by Lenin and continued by Trotsky that the revolutionary party was the key weapon needed by the class to achieve state power on a world scale. The implications were liquidationist, since if some other larger party could serve as well, why have the smaller party?

    This is why, Psephos’s assertion notwithstanding, I’d say that there are no authentic Trotskyists in the ALP today. Left laborites who like to sound off nostalgically about the Old Man occasionally? Sure. But not Trotskyists.

  72. lefty e

    I was trying to do strikethrough on the ‘pointless’, but HTML is not my friend. 😛

    If you’re going to not vote, at least look up Albert Langer and do it properly: have yours counted for a minor outfit. Still legal in the Senate I believe.

  73. bemused

    lefty e@1799

    The entrist Trot deal is even bigger in the UK Labour Party, I believe

    Ahhh the Trots provided endless amusement.

    There was a movie “The Assassination of Trotsky” that upset them over some minor ideological point so they protested outside where it was screening. Just to annoy them my YLA branch organised a widely publicised Theatre Party to attend that movie. 😀 Had them seething.

  74. lefty e

    [Forever ashamed.:/]

    Dont be. I was in the DSP for 3 months in the late 80s.

    Hey, they had really great parties. 🙂

  75. bemused

    absolutetwaddle@1801

    I’m an ex-Trot too. Socialist Alternative.

    Forever ashamed.:/

    I have done other dumb things in my life but my politics have remained remarkably stable mainstream ALP. Boring I suppose.

  76. Rossmore

    Lefty e … Yes and no… All my early voting life I and many of my mates lived under a Thatcher gov… The Blair gov, like the Rudd gov seemed like a light on the hill after all that crap. The reality was different but better a Labor or Labour gov than the silver tailed alternative

  77. bemused

    lefty e@1805


    Forever ashamed.:/


    Dont be. I was in the DSP for 3 months in the late 80s.

    Hey, they had really great parties.

    The only ‘communist’ movement that ever interested me at all, and then only academically, was the ‘Eurocommunist’ parties of Italy and Spain.

    But they had eschewed revolutionary politics and embraced electoral politics. They were like a left wing Democratic Socialist party.

    The ideas of Gramsci were interesting and still have relevance. One of the foremost experts on him lectured at Monash Uni while I was there. Alistair Davidson.

  78. Rossmore

    Night all, Troskyites, , Spartacists, Maoists, Greens, ALP members and all.

  79. bemused

    Rossmore@1809

    Night all, Troskyites, , Spartacists, Maoists, Greens, ALP members and all.

    Goodnight Rossmore.

    Ralph Miliband, father of Ed and David wrote some good books which I read and drew upon for ideas.

    Now I am going too. ‘night all.

  80. lefty e

    Agreed, Rossmore.

    Yep, that sounds like Trots, Bemused. In those days there would have still USSR-line types in the CP for them to oppose (and fair enough I guess).

    Ill give them this: when we were all getting the crap beaten out of us by Bjelke’s police in QLD in the 80s, they werent exactly back line types.

    Aside from that – I dunno, Trot groups seem to have an over-representation of people who swing wildly from one thing to another, every few years, with some exceptions, ending up in banking, or religion, or totally apolitical.

    By contrast, the independent left social democrat types I knew 20 years ago are all pretty much the same today.

  81. Fran Barlow

    Even us ex-Trotskyists need to get enough sleep to function at work later this morning. … Sleep well all …

  82. lefty e

    Night, ya Splitters!!

  83. ShowsOn

    [I’m an ex-Trot too. Socialist Alternative.]
    Apparently hard core members of Socialist Alternative donate 20 – 30% of their incomes to the party!

  84. Carey Moore
    Is Mod Lib a she?

    The contents of Mod Lib’s genitalia have never been revealed in public.

    Now now, one’s genitals does not determine definitely whether they are a “he” or a “she”

  85. AussieAchmed

    Abbott has now admitted that “turn/tow the boats back” won’t work.

    The massive increase in his Nauru Tent City is evidence of that.

    His endorsement of the company that will benefit with a multi-million dollar contract to supply the tents to pay for Morriscum to travel overseas is disgraceful and proves that Liberal policy is based on which multi-national companies will support the Liberals.

    Makes you wonder how much the “people smugglers” have contributed to the Liberals

  86. AussieAchmed

    The mistake was Toll providing a return ticket to Morriscum

  87. imacca

    [The contents of Mod Lib’s genitalia have never been revealed in public.]

    Ummmm…perhaps you meant to write:

    “The NATURE of Mod Lib’s genitalia have never been revealed in public.”

    For which we should duly thankful. 🙁

    It…shall we say…reads better to those of of your fellow travelers here with delicate sensibilities. 🙂

  88. imacca

    [http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-news/aussie-scientists-create-prawn-super-food/story-fn3dxiwe-1226688423365]

    Wow, 30-40% increase in growth rates???? Be interesting to see what that does to the aquaculture industry. CSIRO does some good work think I.

  89. ruawake

    Poor Tony faces the big guns of ridicule. Plenty to work with.

    [While the move is likely to draw criticism from the opposition, it will send shockwaves through the Abbott camp, given the trio’s reputation for devastating campaigns built around a popular candidate using humour and ridicule.]

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/rudd-flies-in-team-obama-20130730-2qxet.html#ixzz2aYnsAXgd

  90. BK

    Good morning Dawn Patrollers.
    This trio will put the wind up Credlin and Co. The digital “spoof” guy will have plenty of material to work with!
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/rudd-flies-in-team-obama-20130730-2qxet.html
    The key questions on this tawdry issue is which party approached the other and for what purpose?
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/coalitions-tent-city-trip-funded-by-logistics-company-that-provides-tents-20130730-2qws3.html
    The Nauruan trip has urned to sh!t for Tone and Morriscum. Karma.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/nauruan-mp-warns-against-tents-20130730-2qxhp.html
    So Mother Milne thinks the boats will stop if 10000 are allowed to fly in via Indonesia every year? These 10000 will have been assessed as genuine refugees one would assume, so what would those who don’t qualify do?
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/caring-greens-unveil-asylum-policy-to-increase-nations-refugee-intake-20130730-2qxf0.html
    Wow! The Guardian’s Katherine Murphy puts the boot in to Abbott and Morriscum for playing the voters as mugs. Cop that Libs!
    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jul/30/tony-abbott-nauru-tent-city
    Yes Mr Gordon, but who initiates the carping?
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/manus-titfortat-only-helps-the-people-smugglers-20130730-2qwlf.html
    And the portents for Essendon are looking more and more ominous.
    http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/dons-told-drug-was-not-legal-20130730-2qxqq.html
    Now St Kilda joins the fray.
    http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/saints-in-drug-probe-20130730-2qxha.html

  91. BK

    Section 2 . . .

    MUST SEE! Alan Moir has a very frustrated Popeye.
    http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/alan-moir-20090907-fdxk.html
    ANOTHER MUST SEE! David Rowe with Abbott’s and Morriscum’s tent city.
    http://www.afr.com/p/national/cartoon_gallery_david_rowe_1g8WHy9urgOIQrWQ0IrkdO
    A good one from David Pope.
    http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/david-pope-20120214-1t3j0.html
    Ron Tandberg on Abboott’s proposed use of the armed forces.
    http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/ron-tandberg-20090910-fixc.html

    BK is heading to Canberra today and reurning on Sunday. I plan to maintain the Dawn Patrol wile away.

  92. mari

    BK
    have a great time in Canberra are you seeing LBD and CTAR1? Do you think you will get out safely 😀

  93. cud chewer

    test

  94. cud chewer

    wow. over 4 hours without a comment. something in the water?

  95. cud chewer

    New Thread?

    *sniff*

  96. Lev Lafayette

    Given it’s revleft show-and-tell time, I may as well lay my cards on the table as well.

    Briefly a member of the Socialist Workers Party in the eighties during my interesting teenaged years. Was more a members of their youth group, Resistance, from around the ages 17-21 or so. Found their methods too authoritarian for my liking and their theory lacking.

    Expressed some interest in the Schachtman group Worker’s Liberty in the early 2000s. Too much of a cadre party for me.

    These days I have more of an involvement with the International Luxemburgist Tendency and on occasion have visited the good folk at the Melbourne Anarchist Collective.

    Overall, my politics can be described fairly accurately as libertarian socialist. It would be remiss of me not to mention The Isocracy Network (http://isocracy.org) which I initiated a couple of years back.

  97. Lev Lafayette

    On-topic this is the state-by-state figures from Morgan plugged into Antony Green’s election calculator.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/federal-election-2013/calculator/?mode=regional&overall=0&nsw=1.7&vic=0.7&qld=2.1&wa=4.4&sa=0.8&tas=-4.1&act=0&nt=0&retiringmps=false

    Interesting, eh?

  98. Simon Baker

    Rossmore – Indeed, and Abbott sees himself very much as a disciple of Thatcher, even more than John Howard did, which is why several UK Thatcherites like Daniel Hannan MEP are strong supporters of Abbott. Rudd is basically an Australian Blair and Turnbull an Ozzie David Cameron. Gillard was more of a Gordon Brown or Ed Miliband