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Highlights of day one

Two new polls, one new poll aggregation, and some ads.

A quick replay of yesterday’s polling:

Essential Research has two-party preferred steady at 51-49 to the Coalition, from primary votes of 38% for the Labor (down one), 43% for the Coalition (down one) and 9% for the Greens (steady). The survey finds only 44% saying they will definitely not change their mind, with 30% deeming it unlikely and 21% “quite possible”. Respondents were also asked to nominate the leader they most trusted on a range of issues, with Tony Abbott holding modest leads on economic management, controlling interests rates and national security and asylum seeker issues, and Kevin Rudd with double-digit leads on education, health, environment and industrial relations. Kevin Rudd was thought too harsh on asylum seekers by 20%, too soft by 24% and about right by 40%, compared with 21%, 20% and 31% for Tony Abbott.

Morgan has Labor down half a point on the primary vote to 38%, the Coalition up 1.5% to 43%, and the Greens up one to 9.5%. With preferences distributed as per the result at the 2010 election, the Coalition has opened up a 50.5-49.5 lead, reversing the result from last week. On the respondent-allocated preferences measure Morgan uses for its headline figure, the result if 50-50 after Labor led 52-48 in the last poll.

• BludgerTrack, which was formerly updated weekly but will now be brought up to date whenever substantial new data arrives, records no change on two-party preferred from the addition of the two new polls, although the Greens are up on the primary vote at the expense of Labor. However, there’s a fair bit of movement on the state seat projections, with Labor up one in Victoria, Western Australia and Tasmania and down one in Queensland for a net gain of two seats. That leaves two state-level projections at which one might well look askance: a finding of no gains for Labor in Queensland, against three gains for them in Western Australia. Whereas poll results in the weeks after the Rudd takeover had Labor outperforming the national result in Queensland as often as not, I now have five data points over the past fortnight all of which have them below. And while three gains in Western Australia certainly seems hard to credit (for one thing, the model is not adequately accounting for Labor losing the Alannah MacTiernan dividend from 2010 in Canning, which at present is rated a probable Labor gain), all five data points from the past fortnight show Labor improving on the 2010 result – a pretty solid result given how noisy small-sample state-level data tends to be.

• As far as I can tell, Labor and Liberal each had one television ad in business yesterday, and they read from much the same tactical script: both are positive, showcase the leader, and appear tailored to launching the parties’ rather nebulous campaign slogans. Kevin Rudd speaks to us of “a new way”, Opposition Leader style, while the actual Opposition Leader makes like Luke Skywalker and offers us “new hope”. The latter effort is a fairly obvious exercise in image softening, but what most stands out for me, having grown accustomed over the years to “face of Australia” advertising being served with a thick layer of political correctness on top (Qantas being an acknowledged leader in the field), is that all but a very small handful of the 50 or so faces in the ad are white.

UPDATE: ReachTEL has published the results of an automated phone poll of 702 respondents in Kevin Rudd’s electorate of Griffith, and it points to a 4% swing to the Liberal National Party paring his margin back to 4.5%. The primary votes from the poll are 45.6% for Kevin Rudd, 41.0% for LNP candidate Bill Glasson and 8.0% for the Greens.

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  • 1
    lizzie
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 7:00 am | Permalink

    This is the sort of thing we can expect from Liberal govts.
    http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/new-laws-to-silence-road-project-critics-20130804-2r7pn.html

  • 2
    CTar1
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 7:10 am | Permalink

    OPT – Dowling.

    A classic!

  • 3
    lizzie
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 7:12 am | Permalink

    This still lets Abbott off the hook.

    "The Australian apologises to Ms Ramjan for any suggestion that she lied about those events and acknowledges that the recollection of those events was contested by all participants, who were sincere in what they recalled."

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/news-ltd-apologises-to-barbara-ramjan-over-tony-abbott-punch-story-20130805-2r8si.html#ixzz2b8DFGWpL

  • 4
    BK
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 7:14 am | Permalink

    Reposted from old thread.
    =========================
    Good morning Dawn Patrollers.
    Here we go.
    http://www.smh.com.au/world/rolf-harris-rearrested-on-new-sex-abuse-allegations-20130806-2ral4.html
    Mentally disturbed – in many respects.
    http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/new-assault-allegations-made-against-prayer-leader-during-visit-20130805-2ra66.html
    I really don’t like this Seppo.
    http://www.smh.com.au/national/poll-could-kill-car-industry-20130805-2ra91.html
    Hartcher on Ken Henry’s correct observations on revenue.
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/both-parties-peddle-a-fiscal-fairytale-20130805-2ra2l.html
    And dirty money will win again.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/news-ltd-apologises-to-barbara-ramjan-over-tony-abbott-punch-story-20130805-2r8si.html
    Oakey’s not the only one!
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/federal-election-2013/rob-oakeshott-regrets-failure-to-make-deal-on-debates-20130805-2r9tg.html
    David Pope conflates the announcement of the new Dr Who with Ruddstoration.
    http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/david-pope-20120214-1t3j0.html
    David Rowe with horrible imagery of Abbott and Hockey at the meat works.
    http://www.afr.com/p/national/cartoon_gallery_david_rowe_1g8WHy9urgOIQrWQ0IrkdO
    Ron Tandberg nails the hypocrisy of Hockey on smoking.
    http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/ron-tandberg-20090910-fixc.html

  • 5
    BK
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 7:15 am | Permalink

    Reposted from old thread.
    =========================
    And from the Land of the Free -

    Don’t you just LOVE Texas!
    http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2013/08/05/video-texas-state-troopers-caught-on-camera-probing-genitals-of-women-at-traffic-stops/
    Some cartoons on the Repugs’ 40th attempt to kill off Obamacare.
    http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2013/08/05/cartoons-of-the-day-gop-trying-to-kill-obamacare/
    The disgusting Repug Governor of Virginia is heading for a fall.
    http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2013/08/04/in-ominous-sign-for-gov-ultrasound-mcdonnell-his-former-bff-donor-is-cooperating-with-prosecutors/
    The idiots will bever give up!
    http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/rep-yoho-obamacare-racist-because-white-peop
    A very good Ed Schultz interview with Democratic Senator Bernie Sanders on the minimum wage issue.
    http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/sanders-slams-walmart-family-obscene-taxpa
    This week’s Gun Fail round up.
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/08/03/1227010/-GunFAIL-XXIX
    Hmm. THAT’S a suspension for using performance enhancing supplements!
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/05/mlb-suspensions-drugs-biogenesis_n_3707913.html
    Ed Schultz and Mike Papantonio on the demise of Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity.
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017136507
    And the winner of the “Little Shit of the Week” award is . .
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/05/justin-bieber-fight-club_n_3708074.html
    How’s this for a rain storm!
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/05/lethbridge-storm-video_n_3708279.html

  • 6
    shellbell
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 7:35 am | Permalink

    Lizzie

    He was never really on the hook.

    What actually occurred was not material – rather whether it was defamatory to suggest Ramjan was a serial liar, which it was obviously was.

  • 7
    OzPol Tragic
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 7:36 am | Permalink

    Reposted from last thread

    OzPol Tragic
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 6:49 am | Permalink

    Good Morning, Bludgers

    Joe Hockey refuses to commit to final budget total

    Exclusive: Shadow treasurer will not produce final forecast of deficit or surplus because Treasury projections are ‘not credible’

  • 8
    my say
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 7:36 am | Permalink

    http://www.smh.com.au/environment/mortgage-belt-leads-solar-upturn-20130804-2r7y2.html
    =======================================================surl

    surly this group would vote labor

  • 9
    OzPol Tragic
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 7:37 am | Permalink

    Reposted from last thread

    OzPol Tragic
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 6:57 am | Permalink

    Thanks, Gaffhook!

    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/sexting-mp-peter-dowling-sent-explicit-images-to-secret-mistress/story-fnihsrf2-1226691713991

    Did I not warn you, my fellow PBers, that SEQ Libs/ LNP were sleaze personified?

    But, Keep it up, QLD LNP! You’re running a great campaign, proving why no QLDer should vote LNP!

  • 10
    lizzie
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 7:37 am | Permalink

    The accusation of “liar” is banned in the HOR and Labor Ministers seem reluctant to use it outside Parl.
    But on Lateline Cormann was very happy to accuse Penny Wong of lying, even while he was doing just that.

    No wonder Lib supporters have such twisted minds. They are led by the twistiest.

    (And I loathe the pre-programmed little Hunt, too.)

  • 11
    lizzie
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 7:38 am | Permalink

    shellbell

    I know. It’s kinda sad.

  • 12
    OzPol Tragic
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 7:38 am | Permalink

    Reposted from last thread (& lack of quotation corrected)

    OzPol Tragic
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 7:02 am | Permalink

    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/gold-coast-hospital-sacks-neurosurgeon-dr-teresa-withers-following-doctor-revolt-over-patient-safety-fears/story-fnihsrf2-1226691621657

    Save Australia from these uncompromising vandals

    Vote for the Whitehead not the Dickhead

    So there go SEQ’s Liberal/ LNP vandals. Yet again!

    Thanks, Gaffhook!

  • 13
    meher baba
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 7:39 am | Permalink

    Just listened to Joe Hockey on AM. On the whole, he was quite effective (for those of us who can listen to politicians from both sides without filtering what one hears through one’s own bias).

    But Hockey showed that he has no credible way of responding to the question of why lower interest rates were a magnificent achievement in 2004 under Howard, but are a disaster now. Sabra Lane lined him up and landed damaging hit after damaging hit. But it was too easy for her: Like shooting at phone boxes.

    If the RBA lowers interest rates today, Labor just has to keep turning up the year on the Libs on interest rates. It will destroy Abbott’s pitch that he can take us all back to the Howard era. And, for those of us who know something about economics, it completely undermines the nonsense that we are in a budget crisis and that the solution is a massive fiscal tightening.

    2004 wasn’t that long ago, and everyone remembers Howard’s unequivocal promises and then how interest rates rose rapidly between 2004 and 2007. This is a big problem for the Libs. Labor should make them suffer for it.

  • 14
    triton
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 7:40 am | Permalink

    Morning all.

    BK, Sophie is coming up with Fran!

    Well, after a balanced front page on day 1, the H-S has reverted to type. It says Rudd splurged $700 million yesterday to buy your vote.

  • 15
    meher baba
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 7:40 am | Permalink

    Sorry, “turning up the heat”: bloody iPhones!

  • 16
    victoria
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 7:43 am | Permalink

    Morning all

    Thanks BK for the links. I am not impressed with Holden’s attitude at present.

    Hi mari if you are still about

  • 17
    victoria
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 7:45 am | Permalink

    meher baba

    My son is arranging finance for a house purchase, and was told yesterday by the rep for the lender that they are anticipating a rate cut today. If it transpires, my son is looking at a very attractive interest rate, and his repayments are looking very manageable indeed

  • 18
    sprocket_
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 7:47 am | Permalink

    Apologies for the graphic early morning quote from the Courier Mail, but QLDs L-NP is the gift which keeps on giving.

    Tony Abbott will need to comment, if only to say “it’s a state matter”…

    A STATE MP has been exposed as a serial sexter, sending images to his secret mistress including a picture of his penis plonked in a glass of red wine.

    In addition, Ethics Committee chairman and Redlands LNP MP Peter Dowling has confirmed he accepted more than $20,000 in free upgraded flights although he was not required by parliamentary rules to declare them.

    He is also accused of taking advantage of parliamentary travel trips to meet his mistress in locations including Perth and New Zealand. The allegations are made in a letter from Mr Dowling's former lover to Speaker Fiona Simpson.

    The Courier-Mail has seen several explicit text messages sent from Mr Dowling's mobile phone to the woman, including a picture of his penis in a glass of red wine, a self-shot image of his crotch while wearing boxer shorts and a full frontal picture of his genitalia.

    ``He wanted a Red Wine ...,'' Mr Dowling said in the text message sent with the image of his penis in the glass. Another image shows a grinning Mr Dowling holding the wine glass in a cheers salute.

    It is believed some of the pictures were taken in his parliamentary annex office.

    http://m.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/sexting-mp-peter-dowling-sent-explicit-images-to-secret-mistress/story-fnihsrf2-1226691713991

  • 19
    confessions
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 7:47 am | Permalink

    Morning all.

    Damn the UK weather for robbing us of another gripping final day of a Test match!

    A STATE MP has been exposed as a serial sexter, sending images to his secret mistress including a picture of his penis plonked in a glass of red wine.

    I had to Google Peter Dowling as he is unknown to me, and was shocked to learn that not only isn’t he a 19yo university student, but has been a member of the Qld parliament for 4 years!

    Where on earth do they find these people?!

  • 20
    OzPol Tragic
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 7:47 am | Permalink

    OPT – Dowling.

    A classic!

    CTar, Gaffhook found it for us.

    SEQ LNP sure knows how to select crooks & sleazebags, and keep their peccadilloes secret until after they’ve been elected.

    I’ve lost count of Newman’s Mob’s tally of corruption & sleaze; but I’m guessing it already breaks Howard’s Mob’s all-time federal record!

    Roll on Elections 2013 (Fed) & 2015 (State).

  • 21
    victoria
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 7:48 am | Permalink

    sprocket

    Surely you jest. The fibs can do no wrong

  • 22
    lizzie
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 7:49 am | Permalink

    Tim Colebath:

    the Coalition's plan to cut industry support risks shutting down a $5 billion-a-year industry to save $500 million. It would dwarf the impact of the carbon tax, which Toyota estimates at $115 per vehicle, not the $400 the Coalition claims. It was a foolish pledge, and one hopes it too will be jettisoned during the campaign.

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/budget-machismo-races-ahead-of-common-sense-20130805-2ra2u.html#ixzz2b8Lya3rZ

  • 23
    gloryconsequence
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 7:55 am | Permalink

    What is the Bludger Track seat projection and TPP? Not appearing on android

  • 24
    confessions
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 7:55 am | Permalink

    Warnings about hundreds of farmers losing their livelihoods and communities breaking down are becoming a reality, with crops in parts of the Wheatbelt already lost because of a lack of rain.

    After a crisis meeting of about 60 farmers in Southern Cross yesterday, Yilgarn Shire president Romolo Patroni said the situation was getting worse.

    Bankers and rural accountants estimate at least 10 per cent, or more than 400 farms, in the Wheatbelt are unviable with a high concentration in the region's east and north-east.

    http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/wa/18374863/crunch-time-for-wheatbelt/

    The article doesn’t mention AGW at all.

  • 25
    feeney
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 7:56 am | Permalink

    How can Labor realistically be expected to win this election with another Murdoch front page onslaught today in the Telegraph, Herald Sun, and Adelaide Advertiser?

    Commentary is now being written into the headlines!!

  • 26
    feeney
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 7:56 am | Permalink

    And, oh, I forgot The Australian.

  • 27
    lizzie
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 7:57 am | Permalink

    Apologies to Colebatch. It reads as cold bath!!

  • 28
    confessions
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 7:57 am | Permalink

    glory:

    50.9 2PP and 77 seats to the coalition.

    3 others.

  • 29
    lizzie
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 7:58 am | Permalink

    feeney

    I think we can expect this onslaught throughout the campaign.

  • 30
    OzPol Tragic
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 7:59 am | Permalink

    As the morning & day’s door-stops, comments & interviews roll on, keep an eye on the Guardian article posted #7 above & see how it plays out:

    Joe Hockey refuses to commit to final budget total

    Exclusive: Shadow treasurer will not produce final forecast of deficit or surplus because Treasury projections are ‘not credible’

  • 31
    victoria
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 8:07 am | Permalink

    As per comments by William yesterday, the seat of Dobell does not appear to have an endorsed Labor candidate. Why is this so?

  • 32
    victoria
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 8:07 am | Permalink

    As per comments by William yesterday, the seat of Dobell does not appear to have an endorsed Labor candidate. Why is this so?

  • 33
    Socrates
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 8:07 am | Permalink

    Morning all. BK thanks for reposting the links.

    OPT thanks for the Qld sexting story. The misuse of taxpayer funded flights to see the mistress is actually far worse to me than the rest, which is merely crass behaviour. He was ethics committee chairman – Campbell sure can pick them.

    Is it just me or were there an unusually large number of sexist creeps elected in the LNP landslide in Qld?

  • 34
    crikey whitey
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 8:08 am | Permalink

    Morning all.

    Did anyone else hear Trioli saying this morning wtte Newspoll shows parties neck and neck. She went on to interview Adam Bandt, who said int al ‘not the feedback in my seat’

  • 35
    victoria
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 8:08 am | Permalink

    Apologies the 8.00 gremlins nave hit!

  • 36
    meher baba
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 8:08 am | Permalink

    I posted above without reading William’s article at the start of the thread: sorry William, I won’t make the mistake of doing you that discourtesy again.

    I now see that ER shows that more voters trust Abbott than Rudd to control interest rates. All the more reason that Hockey should never have chosen to muddy the waters on this issue.

    If I’d been Hockey, I’d have consistently run the line over the past couple of years of welcoming lower interest rates as being good for working families, and giving the ALP some praise for achieving that, but then expressing some concern that if they keep falling and get too low, it will be a sign that the economy has become sluggish and also a bad thing for retired people living on interest on their savings.

    Instead, it’s just been attack, attack, attack in an indiscriminate and rather mindless way. That was fine when the Libs were 10 points ahead in the polls, but it’s causing some problems now the polls are getting closer.

    I was writing this post while listening to Fran interviewing Sophie M. Fran struggled to maintain her equanimity while talking to an interviewee whose approach seems to be simply to say the first negative thing to come into their heads. Liberals like Mirabella and Abbott seem to me to be the product of the Whitlam-era mindset of mindless, irrational hatred of Labor of the type that many people feel towards Collingwood Football Club. It’s a juvenile way of thinking which explains things like Abbott having a huge picture of John Kerr proudly displayed on the wall of his Parliament House office at one point (or so I’m told).

    It’s what really worries me about the current crop of Liberals. So many of them – Abbott, Hockey, Julie B, Mirabella et al seem to really struggle to behave like grown- ups. Abbott has made huge strides IMO, but he still has occasionsl lapses. Lots of senior Libs seem to have a tendency to lapse into a sort of “na-na-de-na-na” tone of voice. Sometimes I half expect to see one of them poke his or her tongue out at an interviewer. It’s a behavior you also often see from the right-wing commentariat: the likes of that Tim Wilson or Rowan Dean.

    Back in the era of Keating-worship, Labor folk could behave in this childish way too. But, on the whole, they seem to have collectively matured. But the right side has deteriorated greatly. Maybe there’s some sort of cosmic balancing factor at work.

  • 37
    lizzie
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 8:08 am | Permalink

    If we are heading into an economic slowdown, I wish I had confidence that there was more acknowledgement of the extra effect of global warming (floods, storms, etc) on the future economy.

    More confirmation of change here:

    Rising ocean temperatures are rearranging the biological make-up of our oceans, pushing species towards the poles by 7kms every year, as they chase the climates they can survive in, according to new research.

    The study, conducted by a working group of scientists from 17 different institutions, gathered data from seven different countries and found the warming oceans are causing marine species to alter their breeding, feeding and migration patterns.

    Surprisingly, land species are shifting at a rate of less than 1km a year in comparison, even though land surface temperatures are rising at a much faster rate than those in the ocean.

    http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/aug/05/climate-change-pushing-marine-species-to-poles

  • 38
    confessions
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 8:11 am | Permalink

    The OO’s Nick Cater, who I’ve seen on ABC24 more times than I’ve seen anyone refer to his OO columns produces a howler for Rupe today.
    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/columnists/rudd-poised-to-win-media-land/story-fnhulhjj-1226691672274

    This is classic red meat for the base kind of stuff.

    Consider a hypothetical election in a country we will call Media Land, which consists of the 29 federal parliamentary seats where half of Australia's 75,000 media professionals lived in 2011.

    The Coalition is in government in Media Land with 15 seats; Labor holds 13 and the Greens one.

    If Labor were to win Brisbane, however, one of the seats considered likely to go its way, the party would be able to form government with the support of the Greens. If the ALP defeats Adam Bandt in Melbourne, or if it were to retake Bennelong, another seat some believe is in play, it would govern in its own right.

    In other words, Kevin Rudd may have a better chance of becoming the notional prime minister of Media Land than he does of winning a mandate from the other 121 seats.

    It speaks volumes about Rudd's fascination with the media. It is an indication of the perils for the Labor Party of believing that the progressive liberal point of view should take precedence over the rest.

    What does Cater think constitutes this progressive liberal point of view that the rest of the country living in those other 121 electorates don’t care about?

    Planetary warming? Check. Gay marriage? Check. The depravities of the Catholic Church? Check. Turnbull for Liberal leader? Check.

    These issues may not register as the most important issues for voters, but to dismiss them as mere obsessions of the media chattering classes is ridiculous. If planetary warming is a “prejudice of the Chatter Zone” to quote Nick, why do all parties have policies to abate our carbon emissions?

    If same sex marriage is a “prejudice of the Chatter Zone”, why does poll after poll show Australians support marriage equality?

    And then there’s this hypothetical election Nick sees Labor winning the election with only 29 seats in the parliament. It’s just crazy stuff from the OO!

  • 39
    lizzie
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 8:13 am | Permalink

    meher baba

    I long for an interviewer to interrupt the flood of Liberal bulldust with “You’ve already said that, Minister”. It seems they become transfixed, like a chicken with a snake.

  • 40
    my say
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 8:13 am | Permalink

    http://www.examiner.com.au/story/1685671/second-tarkine-mine-win-blow-for-activists/?src=rss&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

    ========================================================
    this will up set a few people but hurt the liberals
    as the voters see fed labor get things going in Tasmania

    to stop the greens

  • 41
    confessions
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 8:14 am | Permalink

    victoria:

    If Labor lose Dobell they can’t blame the Thomson shenanigans IMO. The Liberals preselected their candidate months (years?) ago and have had her (I think) on the ground campaigning for all this time.

    It’s one thing not to have a preselected Labor candidate in O’Connor, which Labor won’t win, but quite another in a seat which they are defending.

  • 42
    Mark the Ballot
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 8:14 am | Permalink

    Interesting to see three aggregations all telling much the same story:

    BludgerTrack (50.9)
    Kevin Bonham (50.8, http://kevinbonham.blogspot.com.au/) and
    Mark the Ballot (50.8, http://marktheballot.blogspot.com.au/2013/08/the-first-day-of-2013-election-campaign.html)

  • 43
    crikey whitey
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 8:16 am | Permalink

    MB

    A noticeable number of my Liberal acquaintances, particularly men, incline towards the juvenile in matters politic. One even has a ‘ditch the witch’ poster, which he pointed out to me. His (much) better half was angered by its presence.

    Generally, they are products of mid level private schools, some of which specialise in snobbery and misguided grandiosity.

  • 44
    daretotread
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 8:18 am | Permalink

    Lizzie

    It is not surprising that land species move more slowly.

    There is much more scope for a land species to find little shady niches to beat extra heat, whereas for marine species the water temperature is constant in all areas (except for a few currents etc. Bay species will probably move more slowly because they also may find tiny micro climate niches for some protection

  • 45
    OzPol Tragic
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 8:22 am | Permalink

    Fess

    http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/wa/18374863/crunch-time-for-wheatbelt/

    The article doesn’t mention AGW at all.

    OTOH, Darling Downs, SWQ & N-NSW wheat belts have had unusually good winter – well, summer, autumn & winter – rain. If the weather dries out well for September-early Nov (hopefully before storm season starts) winter grain harvests will be brilliant (though my bumper mandarin crop tastes like water with a squeeze or two of mandarin juice.)

    But, though GW might be a factor, areas of Oz in the Monsoon Zone are adjusting to a new cycle of typically Monsoonal wet-weather patterns.

    As weather types & Oldies are saying, It’s like 1946-76 when the long Depression-WW2 cycles of low rainfall & severe drought – interspersed with short bouts of cyclones & severe flooding – finally broke with very similar heavy rainfall; until the early 1960s drought heralded the onset of a somewhat drier period with more frequent short droughts.

    There’s a great deal more to weather patterns than AGW; as mariners who first landed in the Great South Land & their settler-fleets discovered, often with dire consequences. There’s a somewhat similar pattern of (often killer) weather problems in early colonisation of what’s now the USA’s eastern seaboard.

  • 46
    my say
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 8:23 am | Permalink

    MB

    I AM hoping the cosmic balance IS KARMA, they have ruined sensible discussion in this country and tried to turn us all in rat bags tea party people and rednecks

    they set no example to the youth of this country
    in fact I think there is a lot of copycat going on
    you only have to read some of ridiculous rubbish

    here that comes out of mouth of some of their supporters

    it all started with JWH saying people where his battlers

    for god s sake the party that bought in workchoices
    where his battlers,

    slogans that’s who started them JWH
    the bush we use to say the country till he came on the scene

    I do notice its now gone back to country folk etc not bush people

  • 47
    my say
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 8:27 am | Permalink

    Generally, they are products of mid level private schools, some of which specialise in snobbery and misguided grandiosity.
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    I have noticed that labor catholic mp ministers went to Christian brs, school where there motto is that they take all comers in fact I know if people struggle they are helped .

  • 48
    confessions
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 8:28 am | Permalink

    meher:

    The Member for Indi and Liberals like her strike me more as anti-intellectual than abject haters of Labor.

    Reith OTOH genuinely hates Labor and all the party stands for.

  • 49
    meher baba
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 8:28 am | Permalink

    CW@43: “the products of mid-level private schools “.

    Excellent work: a put-down almost Austenesque in its gnawing subtlety.

    I know a guy who attended one of the “Associated Schools” (that is, “mid-level private schools”: the ones that didn’t gain admission to the elite “GPS” club) and who became a powerful company executive and far more powerful that I’ll ever be who always referred to Julia Gillard as “that witch”. And this is a guy who would, with good cause, describe himself as a “moderate Liberal”.

    To be fair, I have heard similar nasty garbage from people on the left: eg, references to “the monkey” or the “puff adder” on PB (although Sophie is truly horrifying in terms of her public behaviour and personal history in a way that transcends her political leanings, so she probably warrants some sort of nasty nickname: but “puff adder” seems a bit too nasty to me).

  • 50
    victoria
    Posted Tuesday, August 6, 2013 at 8:34 am | Permalink

    confessions

    I am curious as to what Labor are going to do in Dobell. Perhaps they are lining up a celebrity candidate

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