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Seat of the week: Barker

A conservative rural seat since the dawn of federation, Barker is under new management after Tony Pasin defeated incumbent Patrick Secker for Liberal preselection ahead of the 2013 election.

Blue and red numbers respectively indicate booths with two-party majorities for Liberal and Labor. Click for larger image. Map boundaries courtesy of Ben Raue at The Tally Room.

Barker encompasses South Australia along the Victorian border from Mount Gambier north to the Riverland and its population centres of Renmark, Loxton, Berri and Waikerie, extending westwards to the mouth of the Murray River and the towns of Angaston and Murray Bridge 75 kilometres to the east of Adelaide. It has existed since South Australia was first divided into single-member electorates in 1903, at all times encompassing the state’s south-eastern corner including Mount Gambier, Bordertown and Keith. From there it has generally extended either westwards to the Fleurieu Peninsula and Kangaroo Island or, as at present, northwards to the Riverland. The former territories were lost when Mayo was created with the expansion of parliament in 1984, but recovered from 1993 to 2004 as Mayo was drawn into Adelaide’s outskirts. The Riverland was accommodated by Angas prior to its abolition in 1977, and by Wakefield from 1993 to 2004. Barker’s present dimensions were established when South Australia’s representation was cut from twelve seats to eleven at the 2004 election, causing Barker to take back the Riverland from a radically redrawn Wakefield, while Mayo recovered the Fleurieu Peninsula and Kangaroo Island.

The areas covered by Barker presently and in the past have long been safe for the conservatives, the Riverland last having had Labor representation when Albert Smith held Wakefield for a term after the 1943 landslide. Barker has never been in Labor hands, nor come close to doing so since territory in southern Adelaide was ceded to the new seat of Kingston in 1949. Archie Cameron held the seat for the Country Party from 1934 to 1940, having been effectively granted it after helping facilitate a merger of the state’s conservative forces as the Liberal Country League while serving as the Country Party’s state parliamentary leader. Cameron succeeded Earle Page as federal parliamentary leader in 1939 but was deposed after the election the following year, causing him to quit the party and align himself with the United Australia Party and then the Liberal Party, which has held Barker ever since. He was succeeded in Barker on his retirement in 1956 by Jim Forbes, who was in turn succeeded in 1975 by James Porter.

Porter was defeated for preselection in 1990 by Ian McLachlan, a former high-profile National Farmers Federation president whom some were touting as a future prime minister. He would instead serve only a single term as a cabinet minister, holding the defence portfolio in the first term of the Howard government, before retiring at the 1998 election. McLachlan’s successor was Patrick Secker, who led a generally low-profile parliamentary career before being unseated for preselection before the 2013 election. Despite endorsement from Tony Abbott and moderate factional powerbroker Christopher Pyne, Secker reportedly lost a local ballot to Mount Gambier lawyer Tony Pasin by 164 votes to 78, with a further 40 recorded for Millicent real estate agent and Wattle Range councillor Ben Treloar. Pasin picked up a 3.5% swing at the election and holds the seat with a margin of 16.5%.

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  • 651
    silmaj
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 12:28 am | Permalink

    Zoid
    One year ago it was worth approx 211 billion less. Believe it or not that helps most Australians. The ups and downs inbetween are mainly affecting short term traders.
    MB
    Certain sectors of our economy have been cactus for a while. Some of the reasons are disappearing and others are stuck in political quagmire. If these impediments go then the ASX will record another major gain.

  • 652
    mexicanbeemer
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 12:32 am | Permalink

    silmaj

    That may be true but some have dug themselves into unnecessary wholes.

    The Retail sector is one such sector which is going though a transition although things look better than they did 12 months ago.

  • 653
    zoidlord
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 12:32 am | Permalink

    @silmaj/651

    It does not help because of the fact that not everyone is a share holder.

    Our Economy will continue to be lagging, until the blame game ends, and investment continues.

    Investment brings job security and revenue for the government, the latter does not.

  • 654
    mexicanbeemer
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 12:33 am | Permalink

    o dear wholes should not have a W

  • 655
    mexicanbeemer
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 12:35 am | Permalink

    Everyone with a job is a shareholder thanks to super.

    Business doesn’t have the confidence to invest although i am not sure what they are waiting for, they have a growing region and a stable local economy.

  • 656
    zoidlord
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 12:38 am | Permalink

    @MB/655

    Not everyone has a super, or a super that’s worth having.

    Due to not being in the workforce long enough due to government’s like the Howard Government doing IR, or giving companies easier ways to fire people.

  • 657
    mexicanbeemer
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 12:41 am | Permalink

    Zoidy True but the vast majority of Australians have benefited from super.

    It would properly be one of the greatest reform ever introduced and played a major role in Australia coming though the GFC as well as it did.

  • 658
    silmaj
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 12:41 am | Permalink

    Zoid
    Do you think that the govt would get any revenue from the 211 billion increase. Do you think that super holders might benefit.
    Mb the retail sector has a rent problem and an unfair system that allows online to avoid our GST. Low interest rates are helping but without restructuring more will close.

  • 659
    Tom the first and best
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 12:44 am | Permalink

    655

    Everyone with super has money in the share-market (unless their super is invested elsewhere) but little of the voting power of the super is controlled by ordinary super holders. Retail funds give no voting power to the super holders and even the industry funds, run only for the members, do not give their super holders votes for management. It is only self managed super and any non-industry mutual super funds (if they indeed exist) that do.

  • 660
    mexicanbeemer
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 12:47 am | Permalink

    Tom

    True, the average super-fund member does have little to no imput but hopefully the fund manager is putting the funds interest first although that can be sometimes questioned.

  • 661
    zoidlord
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 12:49 am | Permalink

    @MB/657

    Not if Abbott has anything to do with it.

    Remember his rant about Super increase?

    @silmaj/658

    Very little revenue, if tax concessions stay’s.

    http://www.treasury.gov.au/Policy-Topics/SuperannuationAndRetirement/Superannuation-Roundtable/Distributional-analysis-of-superannuation-taxation-concessions

    “The 2011 Tax Expenditure Statement estimates tax concessions on superannuation at approximately $32 billion in 2012-13. This is the second largest tax expenditure. Concessions on contributions are estimated at $16.5 billion and on superannuation earnings at $15.5 billion.”

  • 662
    silmaj
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 12:52 am | Permalink

    661
    Zoid if I sell a share at a higher price Govt gets a cheque. A substantial amount of the 211 billion will make its way to the govt. The govt need the money to fund the services.

  • 663
    zoidlord
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 12:55 am | Permalink

    @silmaj/662

    Depends how much tax the gov get’s.

    You could be giving the gov $5 bucks worth of tax.

  • 664
    silmaj
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 12:59 am | Permalink

    663
    The average tax rate would have to be 30% . So I guess if I made $15.00 you would be correct. How much tax does a wage earner pay if they earn fifteen thousand dollars for the year?

  • 665
    Tom the first and best
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:05 am | Permalink

    664

    $15,000 is bellow the tax free threshold.

    http://www.ato.gov.au/Individuals/Income-and-deductions/How-much-income-tax-you-pay/

  • 666
    silmaj
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:10 am | Permalink

    665
    I guess that’s a point that needs to be considered. It is a good thing for revenue if taxes are collected via share trading , business profit and other activities because the govt receives a larger share.

  • 667
    zoidlord
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:12 am | Permalink

    @silmaj/664

    Well for a start you didn’t give me any numbers.

    Tax Rate isn’t at 30%.

    As per:

    http://www.treasury.gov.au/Policy-Topics/SuperannuationAndRetirement/Superannuation-Roundtable/Distributional-analysis-of-superannuation-taxation-concessions

    It is 15%.

  • 668
    Sean Tisme
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:12 am | Permalink

    SBS pulls latest “blame a white fella” series after their key figure of the series turns out to be a gangster wannabe. Brilliant.

    http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/sbs-pulls-once-upon-a-time-in-punchbowl-to-investigate-michael-lahoud-fraud-claims-20131220-2zp70.html

  • 669
    zoidlord
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:16 am | Permalink

    @Sean/668

    Good, perhaps we can get more crap off TV.

  • 670
    silmaj
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:18 am | Permalink

    Zoid
    I’m not talking about super. Super as you know is forced saving to remove the pension. Share sale, trading, hedge fund activity, mergers and acquisitions are taxed at either the income earners marginal rate or the 30% co tax rate. These tax rates bring in more revenue than the rate of paye tax for most Aussie wage earners. They therefore are good for govt coffers and help with paying for services.

  • 671
    Bushfire Bill
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:18 am | Permalink

    The Australian rabbits on in this “EXCLUSIVE” as if it’s something we didn’t already know:

    No penalty for carbon polluters
    COMPANIES will not be punished if they fail to meet their carbon emissions targets under the Coalition’s Direct Action plan.

    Instead, the government will introduce “flexible compliance arrangements”, some of which are more generous than those argued for by industry.

    Federal Environment Minister Greg Hunt told The Australian yesterday the Direct Action scheme, outlined in a green paper now open for comment, was not designed to be punitive.

    But acting opposition environment spokesman Tony Burke said Direct Action was “a dressed-up slush fund, which is ineffective and costly”.

    “What is clear in the green paper is that there is no requirement for business to reduce carbon pollution,” Mr Burke said. “The policy offers no response for businesses that increase pollution.”

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/policy/no-penalty-for-carbon-polluters/story-e6frg6xf-1226796174066#

    Lax targets, paid for by the taxpayer, with no requirement for those targets to be met equals pure handouts to the worst carbon emission offenders.

    There are effectively billions going out the door, with no accounting for how the money is spent.

    I assume that next comes the “public outcry” and, after that, the Coalition’s withdrawl of any and all CO2 reduction measures.

    Just as the World is coming around to the idea seriously, the worst offender tells them all to stick their carbon in their pipes and smoke it.

    Nice one, Tony. What an example to the rest of the world.

  • 672
    zoidlord
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:21 am | Permalink

    @silmaj/670

    Well you are talking something entirely different.

    @BB/671

    Basically Companies getting free bribery money now.

  • 673
    zoidlord
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:23 am | Permalink

    @BB

    See Crikey article from 2011:

    http://www.crikey.com.au/2011/06/03/spratt-direct-action-could-reward-polluters-rather-than-discourage/?wpmp_switcher=mobile

  • 674
    deblonay
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:32 am | Permalink

    http://www.smh.com.au/national/australia-post-sell-off-would-devastate-rural-towns-20140106-30dmb.html
    The first report of anger in rural areas over the proposal top sell of Austpost

    so where is the National Party when the country people need them ??

  • 675
    Bushfire Bill
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:34 am | Permalink

    @BB

    See Crikey article from 2011:

    http://www.crikey.com.au/2011/06/03/spratt-direct-action-could-reward-polluters-rather-than-discourage/?wpmp_switcher=mobile

    My point is… why scream that it’s “EXCLUSIVE”?

    They seem to have gone completely insane at The Australian.

  • 676
    zoidlord
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:35 am | Permalink

    Died along time ago deb.

    Pre 1996.

  • 677
    zoidlord
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:36 am | Permalink

    @BB/675

    Attention grabbing for trying to get subscribers?

  • 678
    Sean Tisme
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:38 am | Permalink

    Labor release investigation into School Kiddies Bonus showing that their School Kiddies Bribe was targeted at Labor seats

    Can the Labor brains trust explain:
    1. Why the Labor Party has been targeting Labor electorates with their school kiddies bonus
    2. Why they thought it was a good idea to publicly announce they were targeting Labor electorates with their school kiddies bonus

    Abbotts going to have an easy 3 years with this opposition…

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/bill-shorten-to-take-attack-back-to-school-as-bonus-set-to-be-axed-20140105-30bzs.html

    Opposition Leader Bill Shorten will launch his political year with a cost-of-living attack on the government, centring on its plan to cut the schoolkids bonus being doled out to more than 1 million families in mostly safe Labor electorates this week.

    On Sunday, the opposition released analysis of Department of Social Services figures showing the electorates that most benefit from the schoolkids bonus are overwhelmingly held by Labor.
    In NSW, the electorates with the most families claiming the bonus are clustered in western Sydney. The seat of Chifley, represented by Ed Husic, has more than 15,000 families receiving the payment. Blaxland, held by opposition communications spokesman Jason Clare, has more than 14,000 eligible families, as does the seat of Fowler, held by Chris Hayes.
    Laurie Ferguson's seat of Werriwa has more than 12,000 families receiving the bonus, as does Watson, which is represented by manager of opposition business Tony Burke.

    Keep the faith Comrades, I’m off to bed

  • 679
    zoidlord
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:39 am | Permalink

    Actually, pre 1980′s, not pre 1996.

    Former Nationals MP Peter Nixon did a review of the National Party in 1980′s and he said “concluded it should seriously consider amalgamating with the Liberals”.

  • 680
    Bushfire Bill
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:41 am | Permalink

    @BB/675

    Attention grabbing for trying to get subscribers?

    Probably so the editor can rattle off the number of “EXCLUSIVES” he’s printed to Rupert, when the Old Malignant One arrives this week clutching a fistful of pink slips.

  • 681
    zoidlord
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:41 am | Permalink

    @Sean/678

    So how many seats benefited from Coalition MP promises?

    Don’t you think there is something wrong with the system then Sean?

    Or do you blindly hate and hate the Labor Party? and spread crap on this PB?

  • 682
    Bushfire Bill
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:43 am | Permalink

    1. Why the Labor Party has been targeting Labor electorates with their school kiddies bonus

    2. Why they thought it was a good idea to publicly announce they were targeting Labor electorates with their school kiddies bonus

    Probably because Labor electorates needed the SKB more than other electorates.

    It’s a well-known principle in political pork barrelling that you do NOT reward the people who are going to vote for you anyway. Safe seats get bugger all attention.

    You reward the seats who MIGHT change their minds and vote for you. Marginals, not rusted ons.

  • 683
    Otiose
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:54 am | Permalink

    Update 02:54:00 on 07/01/2014 ——– Nett_NEWS++™

  • 684
    mari
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 6:13 am | Permalink

    https://mobile.twitter.com/InBallarat/status/420216148362153984/photo/1

    A request I am quite happy to do

  • 685
    BK
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 6:56 am | Permalink

    Good morning Dawn Patrollers.
    I cannot understand why the autopsies have been refused.
    http://www.smh.com.au/national/bali-deaths-family-of-noelene-bischoff-and-daughter-reject-autopsy-20140106-30dgy.html
    It’s very difficult to strike a balance on this issue.
    http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/alcoholfuelled-violence-focus-on-compliance-making-it-harder-to-prevent-incidents-say-police-20140106-30dnu.html
    What overzealous stupidity!
    http://www.smh.com.au/national/ashes-furore-hemline-becomes-a-headline-after-solicitor-barred-from-members-20140106-30dl0.html
    Cathy Wilcox sums it up perfectly!
    http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/cathy-wilcox-20090909-fhd6.html
    Malcolm Knox examines Australia’s chances in the upcoming Test series in South Africa. It will be up to our top order batsmen.
    http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/ashes-questions-remain-for-australia-leading-into-south-african-tour-after-english-surrender-urn-20140106-30de2.html
    If Australia Post gets privatised it will be the country services that see price rises and withdrawal of services. Over to you Barnaby – go red faced on this one!
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/accc-chairman-rod-sims-denies-urging-privatisation-of-australia-post-20140106-30dm9.html
    Wacka Williams seems to agree with me. Pity he can’t see the congruence of the NBN issue.
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/06/nationals-senator-rejects-talk-of-privatising
    This guy is stark raving mad. He would not be out of place in the Ozarks or a Louisiana swamp!
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/cory-bernardi-calls-for-debate-on-abortion-in-controversial-new-book-20140106-30cob.html
    And Lenore Taylor weighs in on Bernardi too.
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/06/cory-bernardi-is-predictable-abbotts-response-to-him-isnt

  • 686
    BK
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 6:57 am | Permalink

    Section 2 . . .

    Wow! David Pope really has a big slap at Bernardi and his guardian Abbott. MUST SEE!
    http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/david-pope-20120214-1t3j0.html
    Alan Moir with Abbott’s “Direct Action”
    http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/alan-moir-20090907-fdxk.html
    David Rowe with a disturbing view of financial planning.
    http://www.afr.com/p/national/cartoon_gallery_david_rowe_1g8WHy9urgOIQrWQ0IrkdO

  • 687
    shellbell
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 7:12 am | Permalink

    BK

    I cannot understand why the autopsies have been refused.

    Probably prefer to have them done in Australi

  • 688
    BK
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 7:16 am | Permalink

    And from the Land of the Free -

    Some cartoons on the cold snap.
    http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2014/01/06/cartoons-day-cold-snap-2/
    Rick Perry’s Texas. Such a wonderful place!
    http://crooksandliars.com/2014/01/because-we-are-way-too-nice-poor-people
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/01/06/1267577/-Republican-court-hearing-challenge-to-Texas-abortion-restrictions
    Honestly, I’m sick and tired of such BS! Just ask the nuns for a copy of the order.
    http://crooksandliars.com/2014/01/lawyer-nuns-fox-news-god-doesnt-allow
    The intelligence of the Tea Party.
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017167997
    A complaint letter to JetStar has gone viral. (Warning – language)
    http://richwiskendrinks.blogspot.com.au/2013/12/dear-jetstar.html

  • 689
    BK
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 7:21 am | Permalink

    shellbell
    If that is going to happen then fair enough.

  • 690
    lizzie
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 7:32 am | Permalink

    Labor has warned the government against contemplating privatisation of Australia Post, saying it would represent a broken promise.

    Don’t know what good criticism will do. The Coalition doesn’t seem to think broken promises are important, although they felt differently when Labor was in govt. However, the Nationals rearing up to attack them MAY make a difference. I should imagine that a slap from Barnaby might carry a little weight.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/06/nationals-senator-rejects-talk-of-privatising

  • 691
    Socrates
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 8:00 am | Permalink

    Morning all and thanks BK. What to say abour Cori Bernardi? How do the SA Liberals so consistently send morons to the Senate? They also put Mary Jo Fisher there at the same time. Do they not do any candidate evaluations? Bernardi got the no.1 spot. Did they raffle it?

  • 692
    Socrates
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 8:06 am | Permalink

    Personally I have no problem with privatising Australia Post. They are not an essential service in an electronic age, or a natural monopoly the way Telstra landlines are. If politicians, Labor and Liberal, better understood these principles, we would get better decisions.

    It will affect services in the bush, but frankly I am getting quite tired of the amount of subsidy rural residents get. There are far more needy people in the poorer suburbs of our cities.

    I sometimes wonder how many politicians on either side have any practical understanding of social justice principles or economic policy principles? Very few, I suspect.

    Have a good day all.

  • 693
    lizzie
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 8:12 am | Permalink

    $146 fine for not having both feet on footrests of motor bike. Qld of course.

    This encourages contempt for the law and the government.
    Stupid.

  • 694
    Fran Barlow
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 8:19 am | Permalink

    Interesting …

    in 2013 wind was the biggest contributor to electricity supply in Spain, just edging out nuclear power (21.1% to 21%). Overall, with hydro, nearly half of all Spain’s electricity came from renewables. In the past, it was claimed that gas was the beneficiary of wind (since it would be needed as back up, but gas usage for electricity in Spain fell by 34%in 2013 and coal fell by 27% and nuclear by about 8%. Electricity-related emissions in Spain fell by 23% in 2013.

    http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jan/06/wind-power-spain-electricity-2013

  • 695
    Marrickville Mauler
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 8:34 am | Permalink

    Fran # 694

    Yes there was a story on Energy Matters on the same point on 30 December: http://www.energymatters.com.au/index.php?main_page=news_article&article_id=4099

    Meanwhile the Scots are on target for their goal of 100% renewable electricity by 2020 http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Topics/Built-Environment/planning/National-Planning-Policy/themes/renewables

  • 696
    Fran Barlow
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 8:36 am | Permalink

    BB

    It’s a well-known principle in political pork barrelling that you do NOT reward the people who are going to vote for you anyway. Safe seats get bugger all attention.

    Which is another reason why single member PR would be a better system than we have now for selecting our politicians.

  • 697
    lizzie
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 8:39 am | Permalink

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-07/indonesia-says-australian-navy-towed-back-asylum-seeker-boat/5187232?WT.mc_id=newsmail

    December 8, 2013: A boat carrying 47 asylum seekers and two crew set sail from South Sulawesi.

    December 13, 2013: Passengers say they were intercepted by the Australian Navy and "pushed" or forced back to Indonesian waters where they later ran out of fuel.

    December 19, 2013: The boat was found washed up on Rote Island and those on board arrested by police.

  • 698
    guytaur
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 8:45 am | Permalink

    Good Morning

    It is interesting to note the timing of Morrison stopping press conferences and this latest news from Indonesia about the boat washing up.

    Why are Morrison and Abbott running from their policy?

  • 699
    confessions
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 8:49 am | Permalink

    Morning all.

    I guess we now know why Morrison stopped giving his weekly press conferences.

    Indonesian authorities say the Australian Navy forced an asylum seeker boat back towards Indonesia, where it ran out of fuel and ran aground.

    The incident allegedly happened shortly before Christmas but was only reported in local Indonesian news now, after refugee rights activists noticed reports and posted them on Twitter.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-07/indonesia-says-australian-navy-towed-back-asylum-seeker-boat/5187232

    It says a lot about the state of Australia’s media when we have to rely on Indonesian media to learn what our govt is doing.

  • 700
    bemused
    Posted Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 8:50 am | Permalink

    BK@685

    Good morning Dawn Patrollers.
    I cannot understand why the autopsies have been refused.
    http://www.smh.com.au/national/bali-deaths-family-of-noelene-bischoff-and-daughter-reject-autopsy-20140106-30dgy.html

    Two suggestions BK.
    1. Mistrust of Indonesian authorities and a desire to have it done in Australia.
    2. They are fundy nutters who don’t believe in such procedures.

    I offer this latter option on the basis that the girl went to a “Christian” School and such schools are usually rather fundy in outlook.

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