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Held since the 2010 election by independent Andrew Wilkie, Denison encompasses Hobart along the western shore of the Derwent River and the hinterland beyond, with the eastern shore Hobart suburbs and southern outskirts township of Kingston accommodated by Franklin. Like all of Tasmania’s electorates, Denison has been little changed since Tasmania was divided into single-member electorates in 1903, with the state’s representation consistently set at the constitutional minimum of five electorates per state.

Grey and red numbers respectively indicate booths with two-party majorities for Andrew Wilkie and Labor. Click for larger image. Map boundaries courtesy of Ben Raue at The Tally Room.

Prior to 2010 the seat was presumed to be safe for Labor, notwithstanding the local strength of the Greens. Labor’s first win in Denison came with their first parliamentary majority at the 1910 election, but the seat was lost to the 1917 split when incumbent William Laird Smith joined Billy Hughes in the Nationalist Party. Over subsequent decades it was fiercely contested, changing hands in 1922, 1925, 1928, 1931, 1934, 1940 and 1943. It thereafter went with the winning party until 1983, changing hands in 1949, 1972 and 1975.

Denison was held through the Fraser years by former state MP Michael Hodgman, who joined his four Tasmanian Liberal colleagues in picking up a swing against the trend of the 1983 election due to local anger over the Franklin dam issue. However, Hodgman’s margin wore away over the next two elections, and he was defeated in 1987 by Labor’s Duncan Kerr. Hodgman returned as a state member for Denison in 1992 before eventually bowing out due to poor health in 2010 (he died in June 2013). His son, Will Hodgman, is the state’s current Liberal Opposition Leader.

The drift to Labor evident in 1984 and 1987 was maintained during Kerr’s tenure, giving him consistent double-digit margins starting from 1993. In this he was substantially assisted by preferences from the emerging Greens. The preselection which followed Kerr’s retirement in 2010 kept the endorsement in the Left faction with the nomination of Jonathan Jackson, a chartered accountant and the son of former state Attorney-General Judy Jackson.

What was presumed to be a safe passage to parliament for Jackson was instead thwarted by Andrew Wilkie, who had come to national attention in 2003 when he resigned as an intelligence officer with the Office of National Assessments officer in protest over the Iraq war. Wilkie ran against John Howard as the Greens candidate for Bennelong in 2004, and as the second candidate on the Greens’ Tasmanian Senate ticket in 2007. He then broke ranks with the party to run as an independent candidate for Denison at the state election in 2010, falling narrowly short of winning one of the five seats with 9.0% of the vote.

Wilkie acheived his win in 2010 with just 21.2% of the primary vote, crucially giving him a lead over the Greens candidate who polled 19.0%. The distribution of Greens preferences put Wilkie well clear of the Liberal candidate, who polled 22.6% of the primary vote, and Liberal preferences in turn favoured Wilkie over Labor by a factor of nearly four to one. Wilkie emerged at the final count 1.2% ahead of Labor, which had lost the personal vote of its long-term sitting member Duncan Kerr. This left Wilkie among a cross bench of five members in the first hung parliament since World War II.

Wilkie declared himself open to negotiation with both parties as they sought to piece together a majority, which the Liberals took seriously enough to offer $1 billion for the rebuilding of Royal Hobart Hospital. In becoming the first of the independents to declare his hand for Labor, Wilkie criticised the promise as “almost reckless”, prompting suggestions from the Liberals that his approach was insincere.

The deal Wilkie reached with Labor included $340 million for the hospital and what proved to be a politically troublesome promise to legislate for mandatory pre-commitment for poker machines. When the government’s numbers improved slightly after Peter Slipper took the Speaker’s chair, the government retreated from the commitment. Wilkie responded by withdrawing his formal support for the government, although it never appeared likely that he would use his vote to bring it down.

Wilkie was comfortably re-elected at the 2013 election with 38.1% of the primary vote, despite an aggressive Labor campaign that included putting him behind the Liberals on how-to-vote cards. Both Labor (down from 35.8% to 24.8%) and the Greens (down from 19.0% to 7.9%) recorded double-digit drops, and most of the northern suburbs booths which had stayed with Labor in 2010 were won by Wilkie. His final margin over Labor after preferences was up from 1.2% to 15.5%, while the Labor-versus-Liberal two-party preferred count recorded a 6.9% swing to the Liberals and a Labor margin of 8.9%.

William Bowe — Editor of The Poll Bludger

William Bowe

Editor of The Poll Bludger

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, is one of the most heavily trafficked forums for online discussion of Australian politics, and joined the Crikey stable in 2008.

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775 thoughts on “Seat of the week: Denison

  1. Psephos

    I’m first again! There are advantages to being four hours behind.

  2. ruawake

    Translated from Indonesian.

    [Termination was carried out following the Australian tapping against the President. relations between the two countries re-heated when the Australian Navy patrol boat entered Indonesian waters by nearly seven miles from Rote Island].

    Seems at least one Australian Navy boat entered Indonesian Waters without permission. Maybe this is why secrecy has to be maintained.

  3. Otiose

    Update 06:38:00 on 12/01/2014 ——- Nett_NEWS++™ http://bit.ly/1aQcqOy

  4. BK

    And from the Land of the Free –

    Priceless! Little girls meets her father’s twin brother for the first time.
    http://americablog.com/2014/01/little-girl-meets-dads-twin-first-time-video.html
    Here’s a very determined and resourceful beagle.
    http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2014/01/10/video-overnight-thread-beagle-wants-chicken-nuggets/
    Poor Chris Christie. Nice knowin’ ya!
    http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2014/01/10/christies-either-naive-liar-neither-makes-presidential/
    Jon Stewart takes down Christie’s presser.
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017168668
    This is how Aussie journos should handle Abbott’s walk offs.
    http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017168857

  5. poroti

    CTar1

    As they say. If at first you don’t succeed………….

  6. CTar1

    poroti

    [If at first you don’t succeed………….]

    Then be Nigel and walk off the field!

  7. Socrates

    Morning all, thanks BK. How is Logan doing? He is still getting an atheist’s supportive thoughts.

    Nothing illustrates the need to redraft the far too easily abused definition of charities we have than this: the Victorian Chamber of Commerce, a business lobby group, is seeking to become a charity. I think I will stick to supporting Oxfam.
    http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/victorian-employers-chamber-of-commerce-and-industry-seeks-charity-status-20140111-30ns4.html

  8. guytaur

    Good Morning

    Some good news for a change

    @AltLJ: Victorian govt 1st to erase the criminal records of men who were previously convicted for having gay sex http://t.co/FZmKTmcefW #auslaw

  9. lizzie

    guytaur
    I’m surprised that hasn’t been done earlier.

  10. BK

    Socrates
    Thanks. He’s put on 50 g and going OK.

  11. poroti

    If at first you don’t succeed .Remove all evidence you even tried.

  12. guytaur

    lizzie

    Same with me. Senator Bernadi will not be happy with his Liberal colleagues 👿

  13. lizzie

    Socrates

    I cannot understand how a lobby group, or even an “advisory” group, can attain charity i.e. tax-deductible status. I thought the conditions had been tightened ~10 years ago. At that time the Howard govt was particularly keen to withdraw tax exemptions from such deviant groups as wildlife support and conservation advocates. Not sure how it all ended up.

  14. CTar1

    guy

    About time and then some.

  15. lizzie

    It is imperative that I wake up each morning with something to annoy me 😉

    Today it is this nonsense.
    [Undeterred by the threat of deep-vein thrombosis, Prime Minister Tony Abbott cheerfully took to economy class last month to fly overseas for a short family holiday.

    It was a commendable look for the leader of a government preparing to take the razor to the budget this year. And while Abbott’s office didn’t try to publicise his frugal travel arrangements, they did not go unnoticed.

    It’s hard to write these travel arrangements off as a media stunt for political gain. ]

    This was a private holiday, so Abbott had to pay for himself and family. He couldn’t claim it from the taxpayer, so what did he do? Went on the cheap. Because he’s so hard up, of course, with a mortgage and all. How does that affect the use of taxpayers’ funds?

    And the article makes a great fuss of it not being a stunt.
    😡

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/comment/abbott-finds-a-new-way-to-fly-20140111-30nr1.html#ixzz2q7xu6SMe

  16. confessions

    Morning all.

    Socrates:

    The WA CCI has charity status I believe. But I agree, it’s bizarre.

  17. Socrates

    BK

    Thanks, glad to hear it about Logan. Best wishes.

    Lizzie, confessions

    Regardless of whether it is for a right wing or left wing cause, surely lobbying is not the same as works for education, health or social welfare purposes that most charities do? As a minimum, a charity ought to be for a public purpose, not a private interest. Otherwise it is giving a deduction to what is nothing more than a gift from one individual to others with a similat interest.

  18. confessions

    Socrates:

    The thing for me is that CCIs are there to advocate the interests of businesses, not the community. On a related matter the new Charities Act came into effect on 1 January. I wonder if that might make it easier or more difficult for the VCCI’s case.

  19. Socrates

    On the good news front, it is hard to mourn the death of Ariel Sharon, a man for whom troops under his control were responsible for the massacre of Palestinian civilians or Egyptian prisoners at least four separate times. Attention on the Lebabon refugee camp massacres in 1982 is appropriate, but they were only the most public examples. Sharon’s troops killed civilians in 1953, and surrendered Egyptian prisoners in 1956, 1967 and possibly 1973. This guy was.an ethnic cleanser from day one.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qibya_massacre

  20. Socrates

    Confessions

    If it is possible for the VCCI to register then the new Charities Act is very badly written. How hard is it to define a public interest test? They are in lots of legislation.

  21. CTar1

    lizzie

    [Today it is this nonsense.]

    I’d bet he and family got an upgrade.

  22. guytaur

    In more good news

    @cnnbrk: “I do think laws have been broken,” Dem lawmaker investigating N.J.’s GOP administration says. http://t.co/X0tQyoaVv3

    Starting to look like the GOP’s best hope for President is gone.

  23. Outsider

    Re WA CCI. Read this case which confirmed its entitlement to payroll tax exemptions. I believe the refund obtained was some millions of dollars.

    Mind you, arguably, the ACTU and state trades and labor councils would have similar entitlements.
    http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/wa/WASAT/2012/146.html

  24. Bushfire Bill

    [It’s hard to write these travel arrangements off as a media stunt for political gain: neither the Prime Minister nor his Foreign Minister told the media of their plans.

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/comment/abbott-finds-a-new-way-to-fly-20140111-30nr1.html#ixzz2q865MWf5 ]

    Oh, of course… the Prime Minister travelling economy class would never be noticed by fellow passengers.

    And just in case we didn’t notice the frugality, there is always Bianca Hall to tell us what a barefoot saint the PM really is.

    I give it six months… no, three months… before they’re all out of cattle class and back on the gravy train.

    Abbott does nothing, nothing, without it being political. Be it a Prime Ministerial address at a funeral, a speech to a visiting head of state, or just a bike ride, Abbott is All Politics, All The Time.

    Being humble in getting journalists to write up how humble he is is the ultimate vanity.

  25. Socrates

    Final thought regarding Kevin Donnelly and the education curriculum review, it is a great pity. IMO there IS a need for a review, but not in the political and religious agendas Donnelly will focus on. The content and standard of teaching for basic maths, science and english is not standard between states. This has many disadvantages, especially for students whose families move interstate. States that perform less well on skill tests, including SA, simply withdraw from national tertiary entrance assessments. The only beneficiaries I can see, are the far too many useless education bureaucrats and policy officers I have met in attempts to encourage better maths teaching, so we will have a larger pool of people capable of doing courses like engineering.

    Chris Pyne, please fix the actual problem, not the culture wars Mk II.

    Have a good day all.

  26. zoomster

    Undeterred by the threat of a car accident, zoomster cheerfully drove her clapped out twenty year old Peugeot to the local shops to do her grocery shopping.

    It was a commendable look for an average citizen trying to save a bit of dosh. And while zoomster didn’t try to publicise her frugal travel arrangements, it was because they were of no significance to anybody.

    It’s hard to write these travel arrangements off as a media stunt for political gain, particularly since zoomster would never have been able to claim a cent off the taxpayer for them.

  27. confessions

    Thanks Outsider.

  28. AussieAchmed

    Abbott travelling economy class for his personal travel on holidays has nothing to do how with how he and his Govt spend the public purse.

    Are we meant to forget all the charity bike rides etc and the thousands he claimed on the public purse?

    Are we meant to forget the thousands of dollars spent on charter flights and living allowances he claimed while “volunteering: at an aboriginal community?

    Or ignore his attempt to claim travel allowances for his book signing?

    This travelling economy class for his holiday only highlights that he is tight fisted with his own money but quick to dip into the public purse when he can

  29. DisplayName

    zoom, is there nothing you will stop at?

  30. Fran Barlow

    That all noted, Socrates, Sharon has at least observed a respectful silence over the last 8 years.

    😉

  31. AussieAchmed

    A VERY remarkable thing is happening to the Australian economy; something we’ve never achieved before.

    The biggest mining boom since the Gold Rush days is coming to an end and our economy is chugging along relatively intact.

    This is no mean feat. Mining booms of yonder year have always ended in tears, in a burst of inflation or recession, sometimes both.

    But thanks to some nimble gear changes by the Reserve Bank over the past half decade, there is hope that 2014 will be the year we finally end up on the road to more balanced growth.
    —————————————–

    Lets remember that “past half decade” we had a Labor Government.

  32. leone

    Funny that Abbott ‘was not interested in an upgrade’. A flick through his register of interests shows he has been only too happy to accept them in the past, no matter who paid for his overseas flights. I have a suspicion that he just wasn’t offered one this time. A man who is happy to spend $13,000 for a lousy rug for the freaking family room, expects to be chauffered around in BMWs and loves hanging out with billionaires is not going to be wanting to fly cattle class all the way to London.

    There could be all sorts of reasons for his failure to get that upgrade. He was flying with a wife and two daughters, maybe there just wasn’t room in business class for all of them. We don’t know what airline was involved. If it was Qantas then this, a few days before he flew, wouldn’t have helped. The airline might have decided to ‘address its financial woes’ by not offering four upgrades to the Abbott family.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/qantas-has-to-fight-its-own-battles-tony-abbott-says-20131215-2zf17.html

    You can bet that Abbott was expecting an upgrade. It’s good to know he didn’t get it.

  33. lizzie

    Saw Father Bob on the subject of religion in schools.
    They should have him as one of the “advisors”, but I fear he might be too “socialist”. He gently panned the conservatives for their ideological approach to religion.

  34. frednk

    Step aside IPA we now have the Center for Right Wing apologist politics (CRAP).

    http://theaimn.com/2014/01/12/centre-for-right-wing-apologist-politics-crap/

  35. sprocket_

    what class did Tony Abbott’s security detail fly?

    this Putin-isation of Australian politics is pathetic.

  36. AussieAchmed

    The media and inept Abbott and his equally inept government would like us all to forget all the events prior o September 7 2013.

    They are making an effort to expunge from memory the weddings, book signing, charity rides, football and rugby games, so-called volunteering and even the visits to investment properties that the now Government MP’s claimed on the public purse.

    It’ an inconvenient truth that they well and truly had their heads in the public trough and sucked on the taxpayer funded teat.

    And arrogantly claimed they were “entitled” to swill from the trough

  37. AussieAchmed

    frednk

    Posted Sunday, January 12, 2014 at 9:49 am | Permalink

    Step aside IPA we now have the Center for Right Wing apologist politics (CRAP).

    http://theaimn.com/2014/01/12/centre-for-right-wing-apologist-politics-crap/
    =================================
    What shame that our mainstream media have not the courage, fortitude or ethics to produce these type articles on the pages of their papers.

    Perhaps if they were more balanced they would not be seeing a decline n sales.

  38. Sean Tisme

    [The media and inept Abbott and his equally inept government would like us all to forget all the events prior o September 7 2013]

    LOL, dumbest post of yours for a while.

    I think they’ll be reminding us all endlessly what happened prior to September 7th 2013 for the next 3 years. It’s Gold, Jerry! Gold!

  39. WeWantPaul

    [I think they’ll be reminding us all endlessly what happened prior to September 7th 2013 for the next 3 years. It’s Gold, Jerry! Gold!]

    Well not so much what really happened but the dishonest version they spin madly.

  40. zoomster

    Well, having won all their matches up until the Final, my son’s team lost (to a team they’d previously beaten by 100 runs).

    However, he came out of it very well, being named as one of the ‘Dream Team’ – made up from players of all u 14 and u 17 teams who had taken part in the tournament from across NE Victoria.

  41. Acerbic Conehead

    BB,

    [Being humble in getting journalists to write up how humble he is is the ultimate vanity.]

    Tones is so ‘umble, he makes Uriah Heep look like Scaramouch.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEBW5AEHTSA

  42. Sean Tisme

    WWP,

    1. Labor promised to Stop the Boats instead took boat arrivals from an average of 60 a year under the Pacific Solution to 20,000 in 2013

    2. Labor promised to open a detention centre in East Timor before the 2010 election, Gillard too silly to call the East Timorese first

    3. Labor promised on over 500 seperate occasions to deliver a budget surplus, delivered a $19 Billion Dollar Deficit instead

    4. Gillard promised 1 day before the election never to introduce a Carbon Tax under a government she led, introduced a Carbon Tax after the election

    5. Gillard and Swan said they’d “fix” the mining tax, instead spent the Billions the mining tax was going to make before it made it, only to find out it only actually makes $150 Million a Year

    6. Senator Conjob and his $2 Million dollar man Quigley promise 1.26 Million FTTH connections on the NBN by July 2013, deliver 200,000 instead

    7. Live Cattle ban to Indonesia because they watched a 4 Corners program, destroyed the livelihoods of hundreds if not thousands of workers which we are still recovering from.

    8. Oceanic Viking embarrassment by Rudd, took the boatpeople back to Indonesia but then had to promise all onboard an insta-Visa to Australia in a show of incredibly weakness to people smugglers, Indonesia and their customers

    9. Constant infighting between Rudd and Gillard camps. Rudd considered SO bad he had to be rolled by Gillard. Gillard considered worse than bad, had to be rolled again by Kev.

    10. Disunity in the party, everyone leaking against others. Nasty backroom deals for cabinet positions, backstabbing and vindictiveness after losing their cabinet spot. General hate and spite run rampent through the party room.

    11. Union Heavies causing disaster for the party, many of the ALP sucked into the controversy.

    And that’s just a taster!

  43. WeWantPaul

    3, 9 and 10 are probably a fair call, the rest is just rubbish.

  44. waznaki

    I admit I was expecting the Libs to run a pretty poor government, but never in y wildest dreams did I expect them to be this shambolic. It’s been a fabulous four months, may there be many more of the same!

  45. WeWantPaul

    As for number 4 why would you even bother with this ridiculous lie now?

  46. Fran Barlow

    42
    zoomster

    [Well, having won all their matches up until the Final, my son’s team lost (to a team they’d previously beaten by 100 runs).]

    Ah, the variability of human performance and happenstance.

    [However, he came out of it very well, being named as one of the ‘Dream Team’ – made up from players of all u 14 and u 17 teams who had taken part in the tournament from across NE Victoria.]

    Well done him and all the others for participating, including the many volunteers that would have been essential to the matches.

  47. Player One

    lizzie@17

    It is imperative that I wake up each morning with something to annoy me

    Today it is this nonsense.


    Undeterred by the threat of deep-vein thrombosis, Prime Minister Tony Abbott cheerfully took to economy class last month to fly overseas for a short family holiday.

    It was a commendable look for the leader of a government preparing to take the razor to the budget this year. And while Abbott’s office didn’t try to publicise his frugal travel arrangements, they did not go unnoticed.

    It’s hard to write these travel arrangements off as a media stunt for political gain.


    This was a private holiday, so Abbott had to pay for himself and family. He couldn’t claim it from the taxpayer, so what did he do? Went on the cheap. Because he’s so hard up, of course, with a mortgage and all. How does that affect the use of taxpayers’ funds?

    And the article makes a great fuss of it not being a stunt.

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/comment/abbott-finds-a-new-way-to-fly-20140111-30nr1.html#ixzz2q7xu6SMe

    Abbott need not worry about “deep vein thrombosis” – you have to have actual … you know … blood … circulating in your veins before that becomes a possibility.

    But what really bring home the utter stupidity of this whole apalling puff piece is the final line:

    [ Sometimes, perhaps, leading by example is more about image than reality. ]

    So … being all image rather than reality is now something to be applauded?

    Welcome to Abbott in Wonderland!

  48. confessions

    Congrats to your son zoom!

  49. zoomster

    Ah, I love this stuff.

    Firstly, I note that ‘Bianca is political correspondent’.

    I isn’t.

    [In recent months, living within one’s means – and deliberately not making a fuss about it – has been de rigueur for MPs from the new government]

    Young Bianca backs this up with examples –

    [Foreign Minister Julie Bishop made headlines …]

    Actually, sorry, I assumed that there was going to be more than one. So, no, it doesn’t appear to be de rigeur — unless they really are all keeping totally mum about it.

    Bianca does use a couple of examples of public servants having their travel arrangements downsized, which is not quite the same thing.

    And she’s all over the place over whether Abbott spending money on furnishings for Kirribilli and staying with the ADF is a good thing or not.

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/comment/abbott-finds-a-new-way-to-fly-20140111-30nr1.html#ixzz2q8bDXybJ

  50. leone

    Abbott leading by example –
    By turning his nose up at a $3000+ a week home in Canberra, leaving taxpayers to foot the bill while he pretends to stay in an AFP hostel, claiming it is less of a burden on the taxpayer to do that.

    Like refusing to move to Kirribilli House for months after becoming PM, preferring to stay in the family home and costing us heaven knows how much in extra security.

    Like ordering a $13,000 rug when a cheaper one from Spotlight or Ikea or wherever would have been a wiser choice.

    And of course, there are the examples set by all that rorting of entitlements claims so us mugs paid for Abbott to indulge himself by competing in sporting events, indulge his jet-set tastes by taking his family on trips to the races and indulge intraipsing off to weddings. I bet we even paid for the wedding presents.

    If Abbott is leading by example the only ones who can afford to play follow that leader are Gina, Twiggy, Rupert and Clive.

  51. WeWantPaul

    And there was the story about the charter plane for Lib MP’s from WA, they were wasting a fortune by being too precious to use regular commercial flights. Do these journos believe whatever they are told. They are stupid.

  52. bemused

    zoomster@42

    Well, having won all their matches up until the Final, my son’s team lost (to a team they’d previously beaten by 100 runs).

    However, he came out of it very well, being named as one of the ‘Dream Team’ – made up from players of all u 14 and u 17 teams who had taken part in the tournament from across NE Victoria.

    So, State selection next? 😀

    Good effort by the lad, congratulations to him and his number one fan.

  53. victoria

    Morning all

    Zoomster

    Well done by your son!

  54. zoomster

    bemused

    actually, I’m a fairly lousy fan, cricket not being a game I’ve ever really been able to get into.

    I was a fantastic soccer mum, however!

  55. AussieAchmed

    Sean Tisme

    Posted Sunday, January 12, 2014 at 10:15 am | Permalink

    The media and inept Abbott and his equally inept government would like us all to forget all the events prior o September 7 2013

    LOL, dumbest post of yours for a while.

    I think they’ll be reminding us all endlessly what happened prior to September 7th 2013 for the next 3 years.
    =======================================

    Couple of things wrong with your post.

    1. My comment states ‘they would like us to forget’ which they obviously would.

    Just need to look at Operation Boat Secrecy and the reasoning that press releases are an information source for smugglers. Yet for all the years prior to the election Abbott and Morrison screamed from a-top their soap boxes about boat arrivals.
    The conclusion is that while in Opposition they were happy and willing to aid and abet the smugglers. And now in government they want to hide.

    2. You commenced a sentence with “I think”.

  56. bemused

    zoomster@56

    bemused

    actually, I’m a fairly lousy fan, cricket not being a game I’ve ever really been able to get into.

    I was a fantastic soccer mum, however!

    Well that’s not how you come across. 😉

  57. victoria

    According to Milton Black Astrologer, the coalition will be the saviours of this country this year

    [The last time this aspect occurred was in 1762, when Australia was in its infancy. This is why we are called a lucky country, so look forward, not backward as Australia is ready for recovery and seeks a new dimension in history. 2014 will be one of the most significant astrological years in Australia’s destiny and the Abbott coalition government will be congratulated for their bold decision making and professional management in the years ahead. The Liberal coalition is predicted to be re-elected by the Australian electorate in 2016 due to a steady building of the economy through new infrastructure, alternative employment opportunities, greater savings and debt control. Australia’s standard]

    http://www.miltonblack.com.au/thismonth.htm

    And basically Shorten is doomed to failure

  58. WeWantPaul

    From memory Milton Black always predicts coalition success and labor failure.

  59. AussieAchmed

    This pretty much sums up the Abbott agenda

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bdu7ZqPCQAAbvML.jpg

  60. confessions

    victoria:

    Astrologists making political predictions? Now I’ve seen everything.

  61. AussieAchmed

    And this pretty much sums the IPA, Business Council, Abbott, Gina, corporate Australia, rusted on right wing and tea party thinking

    oh yeah, and the pre-written recommendations/outcomes of the Commission of Audit

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdvPTrtCUAA92YU.jpg

  62. victoria

    WWP

    From recollection, it does seem to be the case

  63. bemused

    victoria@59

    According to Milton Black Astrologer, the coalition will be the saviours of this country this year


    The last time this aspect occurred was in 1762, when Australia was in its infancy. This is why we are called a lucky country, so look forward, not backward as Australia is ready for recovery and seeks a new dimension in history. 2014 will be one of the most significant astrological years in Australia’s destiny and the Abbott coalition government will be congratulated for their bold decision making and professional management in the years ahead. The Liberal coalition is predicted to be re-elected by the Australian electorate in 2016 due to a steady building of the economy through new infrastructure, alternative employment opportunities, greater savings and debt control. Australia’s standard


    http://www.miltonblack.com.au/thismonth.htm

    And basically Shorten is doomed to failure

    Wrong in the first sentence and goes downhill from there.
    In 1762 there was not even a British colony established on the Australian land mass and ‘Australia’ as a nation did not exist until 1901.

  64. frednk

    “Milton Black Astrologer”

    As this is a government without a science minister it seems very appropriate that these clowns turn to astrology to try and work out what is going on.

  65. AussieAchmed

    Luxury renovations for Abbott at Kirribilli House…

    Abbott knows all about waste

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdvOL-_CYAAjj87.jpg

  66. confessions

    Two potential cyclones forming to the north. One could impact Darwin this week, and the other north Qld. Early days though.

  67. WeWantPaul

    [Luxury renovations for Abbott at Kirribilli House…

    Abbott knows all about waste]

    there had to be something he knows about

  68. AussieAchmed

    The area of land needed to power the world with solar…

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bbhsy3eIcAAul9c.jpg

  69. lizzie

    victoria

    That reads like Coalition spin and a Liberal manifesto. Should come with a helpful brochure.

  70. lizzie

    [2014 will be one of the most significant astrological years in Australia’s destiny]

    This is likely to come true for all the wrong reasons. 🙁

  71. leone

    Milton Black is still alive? He must be eleventy-hundred by now. I used to read his ‘predictions’ years and years ago when he wrote for some womens magazine. His stuff was always good for a laugh in the staff room as nothing he ‘predicted’ ever happened.

    As for ‘1762’ – I think it’s time Milton retired to a home for the aged and confused.

  72. victoria

    lizzie

    That is why i posted it.

  73. bemused

    AussieAchmed@70

    The area of land needed to power the world with solar…

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bbhsy3eIcAAul9c.jpg

    What is the source for that and the basis of the calculations?

    There is a simply amazing amount of solar energy impacting on Earth each day. But to be useful it needs to be captured. What technology at what efficiency is assumed in that article?

  74. outside left

    Zoomster, a well done to your son. Did you drive him to the tournament in your fabulous 20 year old Puegot?

  75. Player One

    http://www.miltonblack.com.au/thismonth.htm

    What a dingbat. He obviously sees nothing wrong with having both these contradictory statements in his “predictions”:

    [ The reason for this prediction is the planets Uranus (sudden and unexpected) and Pluto (breakdown and rebuild) have been influencing the global economy since 2008 in an adverse aspect. ]

    … and …

    [ The Abbott coalition government throughout 2014 will be working hard to rectify past mistakes of the Rudd/Gillard Labor government. The previous government can be blamed for debt, disappointing corporate results and the numerous negative restructurings of corporations since 2008. ]

    So, in the rest of the world it is Uranus/Pluto to blame for the GFC, but in Australia it is all Rudd/Gillards fault that we emerged with an economy that is the envy of all other developed nations.

    Or something.

  76. Player One

    [ In 1762 there was not even a British colony established on the Australian land mass and ‘Australia’ as a nation did not exist until 1901. ]

    You forget that for conservatives, “life” begins whenever they say so, not when the entity concerned actually achieves a physically separate existence.

  77. zoomster

    [the government will be on track to initiate a small surplus in the budget forecast by 2016.]

    Wow, Milton. Even Joe isn’t predicting that!

  78. frednk

    I once thought we had a nicely balanced system. Labor moved the countries’ social well-being forward, the Liberals the economy. I became a Labor supporter when I realised Labor were moving the social agenda and economic agenda forward. The Liberals value was reduced to bedding down Labor’s reforms and forcing Labor to renew for the next round.

    This government is hell bent on undoing the good work done by Labor over the last 6 years. The Liberals have moved from having some small value to being downright dangerous.

    I will be seriously disappointed if the polls don’t show that most of the country isn’t waking up to the fact that these clowns can’t even be trusted to bed down Labor’s reforms. The last round of polls would indicate the realisation is happening.

    Going forward this country is going to have a problem. It’s been obvious for a while that the Liberals are not capable of an original though, but if your suffering from reform fatigue that is not a problem; to have them that incompetent that they can’t even be trusted to bed down Labor’s reform is a very serious issue; what do you do when it is time to give Labor a rest on the back bench.

    Having Labor in power for decades will not be good for the country.

  79. confessions

    [Milton Black is still alive? He must be eleventy-hundred by now.]

    I’d never even heard of him before. But then I don’t get into all that star sign crap.

  80. victoria

    Player one

    What about this on Shorten. Notice how Milton spells Labor

    [The Leader of the opposition Bill Shorten (Taurus) will be cutting his teeth in parliament very severely throughout 2014. The opposition pressure from government members that he will encounter will be gruesome as Uranus opposes his natal Mars. He will be in a fighting mood towards anyone who opposes him. Bill Shorten will have a tendency to become more emotionally impulsive and erratic in his parliamentary behaviour and this is where he will make mistakes. He will not like to be challenged either by the government or members of his own party. His most difficult months are February, March, July and October. Bill Shortens popularity with the Australian electorate will decline from now until the 2016 federal election. Unfortunately, Bill Shorten needs to learn the meaning of the word “compromise” he does find it difficult to let go of the past and defeat can cause him to become paranoid. He will not win the 2016 election as leader of the labour party.]

  81. confessions

    frednk:

    I used to think that as well about the Liberals, but now I just take predictions of their demise with very large grains of salt.

  82. confessions

    [He will not like to be challenged either by the government or members of his own party.]

    Honestly, you could say that about every LOTO in the country, regardless of what month of the year they were born in.

    What a crock!

  83. zoomster

    outside left

    no, I erred on the side of caution and deposited him on the side of the road for others to collect…

  84. victoria

    confessions

    And obviously milton did not predict the breakdown in relationships with Indonesia…..

  85. confessions

    victoria:

    Nor did he foresee the stunning ineptitude with which they’ve handled everything so far.

  86. DisplayName

    confessions
    [… but now I just take predictions of their demise …]
    I didn’t read what fred said as a prediction of their demise.

  87. Player One

    [ Notice how Milton spells Labor ]

    Indeed.

    I also like the bit about Shorten becoming “more emotionally impulsive and erratic. Milt is obviously a very perceptive man – these character traits were not something I had previously noticed about Shorten.

    And fancy Shorten adopting “a fighting mood towards anyone who opposes him”? Hasn’t Shorten learned the lesson of Abbott’s last three years, whereby being conciliatory and willing to compromise as opposition leader is a sure road to success at the next election?

    Milton has obviously joined Abbott in Wonderland.

  88. lizzie

    Those astrological influences on Shorten could just as easily have been translated as a stubborn character (Taurus) who resists those who fight against him (Mars) with radical ideas and inspiration (Uranus). Too easy 😉

  89. Bugler

    [Uranus opposes his natal Mars]

    Oh my.

  90. guytaur

    lizzie

    I think you will find Uranus influences Abbott a lot not Shorten

  91. confessions

    DN:

    An assumption of Labor being in power for decades when the coalition govt is in its first term is as close to a prediction of the Liberals’ demise as you can get for mine.

  92. Kirky

    Just on the Abbott in economy thing – very difficult to get upgrades from Economy to Business when you have Premium Economy flyers as well (have flown Premium to Europe a couple of times, never got an upgrade – flights are generally full) they get priority first before Economy. Therefore OTT was probably expecting it to occur because he was the PM. Some words for OTT, don’t piss on someone you want a favour for a couple of weeks later!

    Secondly, I now expect him to fly economy when on official business otherwise the media should point the obvious out – happy to fly cattle when you pay, happy to screw the taxpayer when in your official capacity – simple narrative I would have thought.

  93. outside left

    Venus and Mars are alright,tonight. Must be so, Paul McCartney and Wings said so

  94. AussieAchmed

    around 40c with 90% humidity in Karratha

  95. zoomster

    I thought Bernardi was the one concerned about Uranuses?

  96. guytaur

    zoomster

    Careful he may sue.

  97. Player One

    [ simple narrative I would have thought ]

    Not for our illustrious “journalists”.

    I can almost see this note stapled to the wall in each Murdoch and ABC news room:

    LNP flies economy = “leading by example”
    LNP flies first class = “busy schedule”
    LNP uses air force jet = *crickets*

    ALP flies economy = STUNT!
    ALP flies first class = WASTE!
    ALP uses air force jet = THREAT TO NATIONAL SECURITY!

  98. Ratsars

    This quote from Isaac Asimov describes Abbott and his cronies (including Sean Tisme) to a T. Just replace “United States” with Australia

    “There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”

  99. Player One

    zoomster@97

    I thought Bernardi was the one concerned about Uranuses?

    Only other people’s, obviously.

  100. confessions

    AA:

    Ugh. You can keep that.

  101. Player One

    Ratsars@100

    This quote from Isaac Asimov describes Abbott and his cronies (including Sean Tisme) to a T. Just replace “United States” with Australia

    “There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”

    ST takes it one step further – he believes his ignorance is superior to other’s knowledge

  102. DisplayName

    That what would otherwise be a perfectly normal event – Abbott taking a flight – has become news is a reflection of how abnormal his standard behaviour is.

  103. Ratsars

    Player One @ # 104

    The sad part is that what you say is so close to the truth.

  104. leon

    Has Bernardi spent time in a seminary too?

  105. Player One

    DisplayName@105

    That what would otherwise be a perfectly normal event – Abbott taking a flight – has become news is a reflection of how abnormal his standard behaviour is.

    For me, the saddest part is the state of Australian journalism as evidenced by Bianca Hall’s ridiculous article about such an obvious stunt, and that a supposedly “reputable” newspaper would publish such tripe even in the silly season.

  106. Player One

    leon@107

    Has Bernardi spent time in a seminary too?

    Did you mean “seminary” or “seminarian”?

  107. zoidlord

    On talking about liberals…. btw…

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/world/andrew-robb-pitches-australias-investment-potential-at-tourism-summit/story-e6frg90o-1226799595566

    You notice the lack of talk about Asia and Europe.

    Probably part of the TPP though.

  108. leon

    Temperature now down to 31.4 at Swanbourne, still over 40 in the city though.

  109. leon

    All of the above P One.

  110. leone

    Robb at a tourism summit? All Robb is likely to do is convince potential tourists they should go somewhwere, anywhere else.

    Just another example of the sheer, fracking stupidity of Abbott and his cronies – choosing the world’s greyest, most boring man as the minister for tourism.

  111. Sean Tisme

    [Just on the Abbott in economy thing – very difficult to get upgrades from Economy to Business when you have Premium Economy flyers as well (have flown Premium to Europe a couple of times, never got an upgrade – flights are generally full) they get priority first before Economy. Therefore OTT was probably expecting it to occur because he was the PM. Some words for OTT, don’t piss on someone you want a favour for a couple of weeks later!]

    God the left say some stupid crap… this is a prime example and even includes a leftwing conspiracy theory to seal the deal.

    [Secondly, I now expect him to fly economy when on official business otherwise the media should point the obvious out – happy to fly cattle when you pay, happy to screw the taxpayer when in your official capacity – simple narrative I would have thought.]

    You will be happy to know the Coalition is now making everyone fly business class, instead of first class as they were doing under Labors “drunken sailor” spendathon, saving the Aussie taxpayer millions.

  112. AussieAchmed

    So instead of flying first class to weddings or to check on their investment properties they will fly business class

    – Great (sarcasm)

  113. WeWantPaul

    [You will be happy to know the Coalition is now making everyone fly business class, instead of first class as they were doing under Labors “drunken sailor” spendathon, saving the Aussie taxpayer millions.]

    What utter rubbish they are getting special flights from perth because Coalition MP’s are too precious to fly commercial at all. Wasting millions – Delivering nothing.

  114. zoidlord

    @Sean/114

    God Sean you talk of stupid crap.

    Coalition is not making everyone fly business, Abbott is using RAAF.

    This also after buying bullet proof BMW’s.

  115. Centre

    Over the years the Liberal Party has CHERRY PICKED a measurement to compare its performance and economic management with the Labor Party.

    We all remember the so called record high interest rates under Labor and now more recently their favourite belting criteria, budget surpluses.

    The question that can be asked is whether there is an independent, true and accurate measurement that can be used to judge the management of a country by a government and its management of the economy?

    A measurement that can assess every economic factor that may be controlled or influenced by government, based on its merits?

    There sure is!

    It’s a measurement where people put their money where their mouth is and act through their pockets without giving a rats about political preference or bias.

    The REAL Benchmark…The Stock Market.

    So how does Abbott’s performance and management of the economy compare with the other major global indices since being elected on Sept 7 2013?

    Let’s take a look at, say, a competition ladder type standing:

    1st Nikkei (Japan) +14.8%

    2nd The DAX (Germany) +14.5%

    3rd The Dow Jones (USA) +10.2%

    4th NZ50 (New Zealand) +5.8%

    5th The FTSE (UK) +3.0%

    6th ASX200 (Australia) +2.8%

    *7th Hang Seng (Hong Kong) +1.0%

    Note* off a high base week ending on Aust election date.

    …Second last Jerry, second last!

    Is there a reason, oh yeah:

    – Doors closed for business on foreign investment.

    – Closure of the car manufacturing industry.

    – Slow down in VIC and likely recession in SA.

    – Potential conflicts with trading partners.

    Abbott = HUGE FAIL

    The Australian market would be higher if not for the above obstacles all self imposed by Abbott OR had Labor still been in government 😎

    Eff Off Monkey :mrgreen:

  116. Centre

    By the way, the bookies would probably be betting we lose our AAA x 3 credit rating.

    Interest rates are certain to fall 😎

  117. Courtney Compagnino

    re: Ariel Sharon.
    The Arabs were offered a state in 1948. They chose war, thinking they could massacre the Jews. When you resort to force and lose, you don’t get a “do over”, no matter how much you beg and scream.

  118. WeWantPaul

    [re: Ariel Sharon.
    The Arabs were offered a state in 1948. They chose war, thinking they could massacre the Jews. When you resort to force and lose, you don’t get a “do over”, no matter how much you beg and scream.]

    Yeah so lets treat them like animals and exterminate them. Adam often lets us in on the little secrets to excuse murder and torture like this one. Pathetic and disgusting.

  119. Centre

    CC @ 120

    Oh really, you were there were you?

    Sharon???

    Looks like Yasser’s Revenge to me 😯

  120. Acerbic Conehead

    Victoria,

    [What about this on Shorten. Notice how Milton spells Labor]

    Yes, and I believe Milton is getting ready to publish his new novel about Tones becoming PM: Paradise Recovered.

  121. zoidlord

    @AC/123

    Is this before or after Abbott selling the country to multinationals?

  122. Acerbic Conehead

    PO (99),

    You’ve summed it up perfectly.

  123. Sean Tisme

    [The REAL Benchmark…The Stock Market.]

    Now do one on Howard… then do one on Rudd.

    It’s gonna take more than 100 Days to fix Labors mess mate.

  124. zoidlord

    @Sean/127

    lol.

  125. deblonay

    If there was one…..Sharon would have won the Adolf Hitler Medal for Ethnic Cleansing….
    on the basis of his support and approval pf the notorious Shatila Massacres in Beirut during the civil war there

    as it was he died in his bed rather than in prison for war crimes aganst civilians

  126. AussieAchmed

    Only the stupid inept Liberals would think that having a 3 x Triple A ratings, low unemployment, low official interest rates, low inflation and one of the lowest debt to GDP ratios in the world is a “mess”.

    And one of only three countries that reduced debt and over the period 2012-2013

    One of the few Australian Govts that reduced actual spending

    Yep Australia’s a mess, since Sept 7 2013

  127. victoria

    AC

    And it will be a best seller too. 😀

  128. Centre

    AA

    Yep, another false, misleading and silly criteria used purely for their own political benefit… debt.

    Maybe we should go a little more into debt to stimulate the economy?

    Maybe we could encourage car manufacturers to invest in our country and create more jobs?

    How about more infrastructure spending and finish the FTTH NBN for future investment in technology and greater productivity?

    The market knows – Abbott HUGE Fail!

  129. Centre

    AA

    Abbott must really love his job?

    The moron is relatively young and is meant to be fit for eff sakes.

    Never saw Howard, Hawke, Keating, Gillard or Rudd sleep 😎

  130. WeWantPaul

    [Now do one on Howard… then do one on Rudd.

    It’s gonna take more than 100 Days to fix Labors mess mate.]

    There is no mess to fix. The only problem is the tax cuts of Howard (that Rudd foolishly continued) are tax cuts the country can’t afford except at the top of a boom. Very stupid and damaging of Howard, but he and Costello effectively wasted the boom.

  131. Acerbic Conehead

    Victoria,

    [AC

    And it will be a best seller too.]

    Yeah, it’ll sell two copies and it’ll be neither you nor I wasting our hard-earned on it.

  132. deblonay

    The History Wars and the !WW
    ____________
    Get ready here for a fight like that in the UK where the Tories,notably Boris Johnston are trying to make the !WW a “noble cause” and despite all the lessons of history want to deny the charges that it was just…”an imperialist trade war” …to quote Dr Mannix..an opponent of war and conscription in 1916-17,,,and of Billy Hughes too

    The Guardian looks at the debate in the UK today

    My quess is that our own reactionaries will take up the same cause
    see The Guardian…below

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/01/no_author/an-imperial-bloodbath-not-a-noble-cause/

  133. Centre

    Tisme

    You IDIOT Tisme, you really are clueless.

    You take it from where Labor left it, you dope 😆

    Everything out to $1.40

    Tisme in to $3.00 (and looks like closing) 😐

  134. Asha Leu

    @Centre 135

    To be fair, Rudd at least would probably have benefited from the occasional bit of shut-eye.

  135. confessions

    Ch9 should leave James Brayshaw commentating the footy. He looked completely out of place earlier.

  136. Centre

    AL

    Maybe, but Abbott could only dream of a feat of avoiding a recession.

    Hell, the Monkey could go close to leading us into one.

  137. Courtney Compagnino

    The Arabs fully intended to massacre the Jews had they won and openly stated as much at the time.

  138. Centre

    Before I exit, I will leave this thought (based on rock solid fact).

    New Zealand is easily outperforming Australia on the markets – under the Abbott government since Sept 7.

    Actually, the ASX really started to yield ground since Nov 21 at the time the spy allegations surfaced and Abbott offended SBY.

    I’d be confident to suggest that we should be sitting at the very least +6% back at post 118 had Labor still been in government.

    Abbott has and is dragging us BEHIND!

    *knock yourselves out 🙂

  139. Centre

    CC @ 146

    Put away your weapons, the other mob don’t have any.

    *exited

  140. AussieAchmed

    In April 2013 Forbes rated Australia 11th in the world – Best Countries for Business

    and rated Australia 7th -World’s Happiest Countries 2013

    Let’s see how Forbes rate Australia after a couple of years of the inept Abbott

  141. rossmcg

    Confessions

    but tomorrow’s temperature range is 18 to 29. Perth, stinking one day, perfect the next.

  142. Asha Leu

    As of today, Tony Abbott has been Prime Minister for 115 days, officially surpassing Chris Watson’s tenure. I’m still sticking by my prediction that he will fail to last longer than Joseph Cook.

    [Frank Forde – (Labor, 15th) – 8 days (6 July 1945 – 13 July 1945)

    Earle Page – (Country, 11th) – 20 days (7 April 1939 – 26 April 1939)

    John McEwen – (Country, 18th) – 23 days (19 December 1967 – 10 January 1968)

    Arthur Fadden – (Country, 13th) – 40 days (28 August 1941 – 7 October 1941)

    Chris Watson – (Labour, 3rd) – 114 days (27 April 1904 – 18 August 1904)

    Tony Abbott – (Liberal, 28th) – 115 days (18 September 2013 – present)

    George Reid – (Free Trade, 4th) – 322 days (18 August 1904 – 5 July 1905)

    Joseph Cook – (Commonwealth Liberal, 6th) – 1 year, 86 days (24 June 1913 – 17 September 1914)

    William McMahon – (Liberal, 20th) – 1 year, 271 days (10 March 1971 – 5 December 1972)

    Harold Holt – (Liberal, 17th) – 1 year, 328 days (26 January 1966 – 19 December 1967)

    James Scullin – (Labor, 9th) – 2 years, 77 days (22 October 1929 – 6 January 1932)

    Edmund Barton – (Protectionist, 1st) – 2 years, 267 days (1 January 1901 – 24 September 1903)

    Kevin Rudd – (Labor, 26th) – 2 years, 288 days (3 December 2007 – 24 June 2010; 27 June 2013 – 18 September 2013)

    Gough Whitlam – (Labor, 21st) – 2 years, 342 days (5 December 1972 – 11 November 1975)

    Julia Gillard – (Labor, 27th) – 3 years, 3 days (24 June 2010 – 27 June 2013)

    John Gorton – (Liberal, 19th) – 3 years, 60 days (10 January 1968 – 10 March 1971)

    John Curtin – (Labor, 14th) – 3 years, 272 days (7 October 1941 – 5 July 1945)

    Paul Keating – (Labor, 24th) – 4 years, 83 days (20 December 1991 – 11 March 1996)

    Ben Chifley – (Labor, 16th) – 4 years, 160 days (13 July 1945 – 19 December 1949)

    Andrew Fisher – (Labour / Labor, 5th) – 4 years, 300 days (13 November 1908 – 2 June 1909; 29 April 1910 – 24 June 1913;
    17 September 1914 – 27 October 1915)

    Alfred Deakin – (Protectionist / Commonwealth Liberal, 2nd) – 4 years, 316 days (24 September 1903 – 27 April 1904; 5 July 1905 – 13 November 1908; 2 June 1909 – 29 April 1910)

    Stanley Bruce – (Nationalist, 8th) – 6 years, 256 days (9 February 1923 – 22 October 1929)

    Joseph Lyons – (United Australia, 10th) – 7 years, 92 days (6 January 1932 – 7 April 1939)

    Billy Hughes – (Labor / Nationalist, 7th) – 7 years, 106 days (27 October 1915 – 9 February 1923)

    Malcolm Fraser – (Liberal, 22nd) – 7 years, 121 days (11 November 1975 – 11 March 1983)

    Bob Hawke – (Labor, 23rd) – 8 years, 285 days (11 March 1983 – 20 December 1991)

    John Howard – (Liberal, 25th) – 11 years, 268 days (11 March 1996 – 3 December 2007)

    Robert Menzies – (United Australia / Liberal, 12th) – 18 years, 161 days (26 April 1939 – 28 August 1941; 19 December 1949 – 26 January 1966)]

  143. CTar1

    zoom

    [my son’s team lost (to a team they’d previously beaten by 100 runs)]

    Bummer, but something for him to take on.

    Stuff doesn’t always turn out the way you expect.

  144. boomy1

    Confessions@145

    My good friend from Switzerland has just lobbed in Perth.
    She was worried about the heat and has managed to pick two bad days to stay before coming to the south west.
    It was -1 in Bern when she left and 40 on arrival.
    It was a shock…

  145. AussieAchmed

    In 2005 Australia under the Howard Liberals did not rate in the top 10 happiest countries in the world

  146. confessions

    rossmcg:

    I hear the sea breeze is already in and cooling things down.

  147. confessions

    boomy:

    That was my brother a year ago but in reverse. He went from that Sydney heatwave of days of high 30s/low 40s heat to sub zero temps in Europe.

  148. CTar1

    boomy

    I’ve done Heathrow @ -2c and then 16 hours to Singapore 36c and raining.

    Big sleep at Mandarin Marina required.

  149. CTar1

    MTBW – So sorry … but sh#t happens.

  150. BK

    MTBW
    Geoffrey always seemed to be a trustworthy, straight up and down sort of guy.

  151. MTBW

    CTar1

    Eventually!

  152. boomy1

    @ 157,158

    She thinks Cradle Mountain would have been a better place to start then gradually get warmer…
    the forests are cool here though.

  153. MTBW

    BK

    And he looked so good with his hair transplant.

  154. CTar1

    MTBW

    [And he looked so good with his hair transplant.]

    LOL. And her pumped up boobs …

  155. MTBW

    CTar1

    They both look so trashy – I wonder how these people are treated as celebrities money or not.

  156. BK

    Another premature ejection for Root!

  157. deblonay

    Extreme eather contrast heelth hazards
    ___________
    like others …I once went from a hot Melb (early)Easter to a frigid minus -8 day in Vienna…and promptly got an awful cold which dogged me in my several European weeks…so much so that after a few days in an icy Prague I decided to go home early,but couln’t get a flight beuyond S’Pore for a few days as it was term /Uni holidays in Oz…but a few days in the S’Pore heat …by the pool at the hotel fixed my cold
    so one must take care at this time of extremes of climnate

  158. confessions

    boomy:

    Or the WA south coast. Much cooler here than in Perth.

  159. WeWantPaul

    [Or the WA south coast. Much cooler here than in Perth.]

    Eastern suburbs of Perth are currently horrible.

  160. WeWantPaul

    Apparently in the last hour we dropped almost 2 degrees to just over 40! I feel chilly

  161. deblonay

    Bob Ellis on Sharon
    _____________
    Describing Sharon as a tyrant and a gangster ,Ellis lists the terrible damage he did to both the Palestinians and eventually to Israels cause and it’s chance of a normal national life

    Like the jewish writer Avernery who described Sharon as ” a zio-fascist”…Ellis doubt wheather Israel can every recover from his misrule

    He says Sharon should have been before the Hague tribunal instead of honoured by Israel today

    http://www.ellistabletalk.com/

  162. Darren Laver

    http://www.bom.gov.au/index.php?ref=logo

    According to the BOM, Canberra is the hottest capital right now, sitting on 35.8 (when it was only forecast for 34), followed by Perth, which is currently 35.1

    This weather watching sure beats watching for boats of Xmas Island 😉

  163. confessions

    [Eastern suburbs of Perth are currently horrible.]

    People in the hills (Parkerville) are being asked to leave their homes because of a bushfire emergency.