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BludgerTrack: 52.6-47.4 to Labor

With the Newspoll drought presumably awaiting to be broken this weekend, it’s all quiet on the BludgerTrack front, apart from the always dependable Essential Research.

The big story in polling this week was no story at all, with Newspoll still yet to resume after its summer break. This has inevitably excited the attention of conspiracy theorists, but if Newspoll takes the field this weekend it will be acting just as it did after the 2010 election, when its first post-New Year poll was conducted in the first weekend in February. In an off week for the fortnightly Morgan series, that just leaves an Essential Research to add to the mix for BludgerTrack, which accordingly records next to no change on last week. Labor does at least reach a new high of 39.5% on the primary vote, putting it within a hair’s breadth of the Coalition. The seat projection is entirely unchanged, with nothing significant happening on the state breakdowns for voting intention. It should be noted that there is still no data from any of the big live-interview phone pollsters this year, all observations this year coming from Essential, Morgan and ReachTEL.

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  • 1451
    Tom the first and best
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 12:42 am | Permalink

    1449

    You missed my point, mostly. Most of the significant wealth that an inheritance tax should be taxing is in the form of companies, trusts, financial investments, etc.

  • 1452
    Bushfire Bill
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 12:45 am | Permalink

    The Australian’s anti-ABC bootstrap continues.

    PM urged to review ABC’s standards
    BRAD NORINGTON AND JARED OWENS

    TONY Abbott faces a push from within his cabinet to call a wide-ranging inquiry into the ABC’s editorial standards.

    Let’s not worry about the fact that “the PM” is disqualified from reviewing the ABC’s editorial standards. It is an independent body.

    What I do love is the way The Australian tries to make out that ordinary Aussies are out in the street with torches and pitchforks, egging on their MPs to in turn egg on the Prime Minister to take the ABC to task and hopefully rip it a new one.

    Mind youse, this is just as the “Burnt Hands” story is hotting up.

    They haven’t got long. By this time net week the REAL truth will probably be out. You can’t refuse to comment on a story, the the eten of refusing to confirm or deny that boats are being towed back at gunpoint, then blame the ABC for not getting both sides of the situation correct.

    Morrison was warned about this. He was warned that if he didn’t comment, then the media would make up its own mind and publish it. He, in turn, though that by refusing to comment he could heavy the media into shutting up for fear of being charged with bias.

    It’s all falling in a heap for Scoot.

  • 1453
    himi
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 12:46 am | Permalink

    Hey, here’s an idea: why not tax companies on the same scale as we use to tax individuals? I mean, they seem to like the idea of being treated as people, so why shouldn’t we tax them as people?

    himi

  • 1454
    Laocoon
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 12:54 am | Permalink

    WB 1447

    Jackie Kelly to challenge Stuart Ayres for Liberal preselection in state seat of Penrith. Jess Diaz, father of famously unsuccessful Greenway aspirant Jaymes, to challenge Kevin Conolly in Riverstone.

    It does not take much to bring this gem out…the transcript is good but for full effect, the audio is still available. Awesome. I still remember hearing it live

    Fake pamphlet scam a prank, Kelly says

    http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2007/s2097573.htm

  • 1455
    jules
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 12:58 am | Permalink

    Since the idea of wealth distribution has come up, has anyone here heard of the Poreto distribution? (Its a thing in maths.)

  • 1456
    zoidlord
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 1:09 am | Permalink

    @himi/1453

    The problem is that they can avoid alot of taxes all together, unless they (the gov) close most if not all tax holes, especially with multinationals.

    Not going to see it in this gov.

  • 1457
    briefly
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 1:16 am | Permalink

    The basic problem.....

    by Fran Barlow

    Fran, this could be quaint were it not so daft.

  • 1458
    MagicPudding
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 1:27 am | Permalink

    Jules @1455
    It’s “Pareto”, and it is a probability distribution model useful for situations where there are lots of small values grading to a few large values. Wealth and income distributions are two such cases, as are things like sizes of potholes.

  • 1459
    geoffrey
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 1:55 am | Permalink

    Bushfire Bill
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 12:45 am | PERMALINK
    The Australian’s anti-ABC bootstrap continues.

    PM urged to review ABC’s standards
    BRAD NORINGTON AND JARED OWENS

    TONY Abbott faces a push from within his cabinet to call a wide-ranging inquiry into the ABC’s editorial standards.

    Let’s not worry about the fact that “the PM” is disqualified from reviewing the ABC’s editorial standards. It is an independent body.

    What I do love is the way The Australian tries to make out that ordinary Aussies are out in the street with torches and pitchforks, egging on their MPs to in turn egg on the Prime Minister to take the ABC to task and hopefully rip it a new one.

    Mind youse, this is just as the “Burnt Hands” story is hotting up.

    They haven’t got long. By this time net week the REAL truth will probably be out. You can’t refuse to comment on a story, the the eten of refusing to confirm or deny that boats are being towed back at gunpoint, then blame the ABC for not getting both sides of the situation correct.

    Morrison was warned about this. He was warned that if he didn’t comment, then the media would make up its own mind and publish it. He, in turn, though that by refusing to comment he could heavy the media into shutting up for fear of being charged with bias.

    It’s all falling in a heap for Scoot.
    —————-grand sentiments above ———–

  • 1460
    dendy
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 4:44 am | Permalink

    It is interesting that there hasn’t been a Newspoll for such a long time. I’m inclined to think it’s to give Abbott some breathing space, which would ordinarily be fair enough. However it wasn’t a courtesy paid to the previous government. I think the relentless polling of the Gillard and Rudd governments can, in retrospect be seen as part of News Ltd’s campaign against them.

  • 1461
    Otiose
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 5:03 am | Permalink

    05:01:00 08/02/2014 —- Nett_NEWS++™ http://bit.ly/1aQcqOy

  • 1462
    shellbell
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 6:31 am | Permalink

    Jackie Kelly to challenge Stuart Ayres for Liberal preselection in state seat of Penrith. Jess Diaz, father of famously unsuccessful Greenway aspirant Jaymes, to challenge Kevin Conolly in Riverstone.

    Even more stupid

    Elsewhere, former NSW energy minister Chris Hartcher has renominated to contest his seat of Terrigal for the Liberals at next year's state election despite resigning from cabinet in December after his office was raided by corruption authorities.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/stuart-ayres-seat-of-penrith-wanted-by-former-mp-jackie-kelly-20140207-327c2.html#ixzz2sfMDlhDH

  • 1463
    Mad Dog
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:03 am | Permalink

    Adam/Psephos, Do you see any parallels between the behaviour of Israeli soldiers in their prosecution of the Israeli ‘liebensraum’ policy, and the earlier behaviour by German soldiers? Are there only differences in scale, rather than intent?

  • 1464
    Mad Dog
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:09 am | Permalink

  • 1465
    Fran Barlow
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:14 am | Permalink

    Himi

    Not trying to be cute or anything – I generally agree with your arguments, but I can also see where the pragmatists like Zoomster are coming from. I guess that probably makes me some kind of Labor centrist rather than a Green or whatever

    I found the idea that one can be a bit too socialist rather amusing. FTR I don’t accept that being pragmatic describes the politics of people like Zoomster. Better adjectives would be ‘maladaptive’ or subversive. Their system doesn’t and can’t work maintainable over time for working humanity and inevitably authors avoidable misery. It’s about as pragmatic as paying a blackmailer and hoping he will lose interest,

  • 1466
    Fran Barlow
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:17 am | Permalink

    Oops

    Their system doesn't and can't work maintainably ...

  • 1467
    frednk
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:20 am | Permalink

    While the Australian navy was locking wretched souls into lifeboats:

    http://www.lowyinterpreter.org/post/2014/02/07/China-makes-statement-as-it-sends-naval-ships-off-Australias-maritime-approaches.aspx#.UvTjpvVyShG.twitter

  • 1468
    daretotread
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:27 am | Permalink

    Fred

    I wonder if our esteemed Defence Minister was too angry to read the briefing on the Chinese boats?

  • 1469
    pom
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:28 am | Permalink

    Mark ✌ ‏@WorldOfMarkyD 15h

    NewsCorpse gutter bullshit drops 22% in revenue & 22% in sales within just 3 months hahaha..world finally waking up? #BoycottMurdoch #AusPol

  • 1470
    BK
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:35 am | Permalink

    Good morning Dawn Patrollers.
    Well done Fairfax – you’ve smoked them out.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/border-protection-officials-to-investigate-claims-its-sailors-deliberately-burned-the-hands-of-asylumseekers-20140207-327ej.html
    How can Abbott still contemplate his rolled gold PPL scheme having said this?
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/get-set-for-plenty-of-budget-pain-tony-abbott-tells-australians-20140207-327bs.html
    Mike Carlton is well worth reading this morning.
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/still-killing-the-abc-its-the-ghost-of-ba-santamaria-20140207-326xu.html
    “Regret” is an insufficient response.
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/07/salvation-armys-worst-decision-was-to-allow-abuser-back-inquiry-hears
    Peter FitzSimons serves it up to the Cronulla Sharks.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/get-set-for-plenty-of-budget-pain-tony-abbott-tells-australians-20140207-327bs.html
    Bye bye Geoff Shaw!
    http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/liberals-set-to-expel-rebel-mp-geoff-shaw-from-the-party-20140207-327fp.html
    More evidence is uncovered on the Bevan Spencer von Einem case in Adelaide. Nasty stuff.
    http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/lost-diary-gives-south-australia-police-new-lead-into-allan-barnes-murder-by-the-family/story-fni6uo1m-1226821049791
    More scabby tricks from Morriscum.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/scott-morrison-reintroduces-temporary-visas-for-asylum-seekers-20140207-326v3.html
    Tony Wright not too impressed with the useless Johnston.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/david-johnston-goes-overboard-with-abc-criticism-20140207-326n9.html
    So the Cadbury workers get a much sweeter EBA deal than those at SPC. Over to you, Tone.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/cadbury-workers-get-sweeter-deal-than-spc-counterparts-20140207-327ee.html

  • 1471
    BK
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:36 am | Permalink

    Section 2 . . .

    Ross Gittins reflects on the 40 years over which he has reported on the economy.
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/ross-gittins-on-a-super-70s-flashback-and-todays-economic-greatest-hits-20140207-32718.html
    Michael Leunig wants to get away from it all – especially Abbott.
    http://images.smh.com.au/2014/02/07/5138778/ac-leunig-defcon-20140207064843839761-620×0.jpg
    Alan Moir ponders over the ALP’s direction.
    http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/alan-moir-20090907-fdxk.html
    David Pope lines up Abbott and the AS media strategy.
    http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/david-pope-20120214-1t3j0.html
    Ron Tandberg exposes Abbott’s shallowness.
    http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/ron-tandberg-20090910-fixc.html
    Look at the can opener – Simon Leitch.
    http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/simon-letch-20090908-ffni.html

  • 1472
    DisplayName
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:43 am | Permalink

    Fran, it’s not blackmail unless you wish to argue that being forced to live under rules not entirely (or even a little bit) decided by yourself is blackmail, because that’s where the forcing part of your so-called blackmail comes from.

  • 1473
    BK
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:49 am | Permalink

    And from the Land of the Free -

    The Repug lady who responded to Obama’s SOTU address is in a bit of trouble.
    http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2014/02/07/first-lied-gop-reply-sotu-now-party-turns-ethics/
    The GOP getting desperate?
    http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2014/02/06/california-maine-gop-scared/
    And the pot (FoxNews’s Sean Hannity) calls the kettle (MSNBC) black.
    http://crooksandliars.com/2014/02/sean-hannity-whines-about-msnbc-being-too

  • 1474
    fredex
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:08 am | Permalink

    From BK

    Alan Moir ponders over the ALP’s direction.

    http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/alan-moir-20090907-fdxk.html

    Just go to Tony Abbott’s road and walk in the opposite direction to him.

  • 1475
    victoria
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:19 am | Permalink

    morning all

    BK

    Mike Carlton is indeed an interesting read this morning

    So here's what my navy sources tell me about those refugees with the burnt hands. Somewhere north of Christmas Island, a party of sailors from the frigate HMAS Parramatta boarded an Indonesian fishing boat.
    Some went below to secure the engine-room and were accosted by angry male passengers who were trying to disable the engine. A scuffle broke out. One man apparently set fire to a fuel-soaked rag. A sailor used pepper spray to subdue them. In the uproar, blinded by the fumes, two panicked asylum seekers grabbed hold of hot engine pipes.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/comment/still-killing-the-abc-its-the-ghost-of-ba-santamaria-20140207-326xu.html#ixzz2sfoROrAo

  • 1476
    Boerwar
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:20 am | Permalink

    No nasty surprises
    No pathetic excuses
    No lies
    More accountability
    More transparency
    You can trust me

    Surprise No 1 Despite both Abbott and Hockey roundly criticising the Gillard Government for wanting to provide the IMF with more funding, Hockey has now been criticising the US Congress for not supporting a Bill which would enable more funding of the IMF. (This replaces an earlier surprise No 1 which Abbott subsequently backflipped on).

  • 1477
    spur212
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:21 am | Permalink

    So if what I read from Greg Jericho and Stephen Koukoulas yesterday on twitter is correct, the budget should return to surplus by 2016/17 with little to no effort. That makes things very easy for the Coalition because they just go back to what they’ve walloped the ALP over the head with since Keating was beaten and now they also have the previous government’s stimulus package and “tax” to take a swing at too.

    It doesn’t matter what equals good economics because it’s all about how people perceive it. Unions, tax, debt, boats: I suspect they’ll win pretty easily with that attack as it hits all of the right buttons.

    Of course this is all speculation but it’s certainly a cause for concern.

    Bill Shorten was smart to make his theme on the economy about jobs because it looks like the unemployment rate is going to be one of the only metrics he can use. He might be able to rally support on IR too.

    I guess we’ll just have to wait and see what happens.

  • 1478
    victoria
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:23 am | Permalink

    And on his reporting of the Navy incursions

    But now the reverse of the medal. The blundering incursion into Indonesian territorial waters by Parramatta and its sister ship HMAS Stuart was a disaster, almost incomprehensible in the era of pinpoint satellite navigation.
    Five times they did it, neither ship aware nor concerned it had happened. This despite the absolute diplomatic and military imperative of not upsetting the Indonesians. As one admiral told me this week through gritted teeth: "They f---ed up."
    But it gets worse. Scott Morrison & Co would like you to believe the turn-back-the-boats show is seamlessly run by the new Operation Sovereign Borders, headed by the now famous Lieutenant General Angus Campbell. In fact it's not. Bizarrely, there are no fewer than four different commands with a piece of the action, often overlapping.
    They are Northern Command, based in Darwin, nominally in charge of land, sea and air operations in the Top End and the theatre beyond. Border Protection Command, which covers the entire Australian coastline. The new Joint Agency Task Force, aka Campbell's Sovereign Borders. And finally, Joint Operations Command, which controls the whole Australian Defence Force worldwide from its spanking new HQ in Canberra.
    I'm told it was Northern Command that blew it. It should have known what Parramatta and Stuart were up to, but failed to restrain or control them until way too late. That is another shocker. The grim reality is that Northern Command is a creaking anachronism left over from 1942, with little naval expertise. It should have been abolished years ago.
    Given this government's mania for secrecy, it's likely the official report on this fiasco will be heavily censored when it comes out sometime next week.
    But the navy and the ADF will still have to eat the proverbial faecal focaccia, and grin through gritted teeth while doing it. They will cop a heavy kicking from the media, and in this case deservedly so.
    Expect heads to roll.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/comment/still-killing-the-abc-its-the-ghost-of-ba-santamaria-20140207-326xu.html#ixzz2sfpAGQRp

  • 1479
    victoria
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:27 am | Permalink

    Boerwar

    Do you have a view on this as linked earlier by frednk?

    http://www.lowyinterpreter.org/post/2014/02/07/China-makes-statement-as-it-sends-naval-ships-off-Australias-maritime-approaches.aspx#.UvTjpvVyShG.twitter

  • 1480
    CTar1
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:31 am | Permalink

    BK – Moir really spot-on this morning. ‘fridge door stuff!

    Carlton interesting.

    Thanks for the links.

  • 1481
    zoomster
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:43 am | Permalink

    Wow, I have a system now. Apparently the world is under my control. If only I could find the right levers, I could introduce the socialist nirvana fran advocates (where, of course, the plebian yobbos know their place and listen adoringly to The Thinkers for guidance in their daily lives…)

    All very amusing, fran, particularly as I’m an anarchist at heart. But in ‘the real world’, in which I work, it’s not possible (without, of course The Glorious Revolution, where I’ll apparently be one of the First Against the Wall) to achieve anything at all without recognising realities.

    Since, apparently, fran has given up addressing me as a human being and is now talking to me as a Group, I’ll show her exactly the same courtesy: Those who refuse to be involved in the world because it might taint their purity, and sit around waiting for a Better Day to dawn, where human beings have been rewired to behave properly and not in the imperfect way they do, achieve absolutely nothing.

    But that’s OK, because achieving nothing means you remain pure, which means you can continue to reflect on your superiority to those who actually do things, and pride yourself that you’re not part of the Teeming Masses.

    I’ll take impurity any day over that kind of snobbish tosh.

  • 1482
    CTar1
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:44 am | Permalink

    I saw the photo accompanying this article and immediately thought Tones had made the front page of The Independent again:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/middleaged-women-most-at-risk-from-dangerous-cat-bites-9114068.html

  • 1483
    spur212
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:47 am | Permalink

    This is very good by Laura Tingle

    http://www.afr.com/p/national/the_politics_of_the_age_of_entitlement_Bv9Ma0px7luqLZ7ztofmQJ

  • 1484
    pom
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:55 am | Permalink

    Permit me…
    I have a niece in Canada who asks…
    Is anyone computer-savvy enough to help me set up a wordpress website for a brand new charity, raising awareness for global developmental delay? I’m writing it for free, but don’t have the $$$ needed to enlist professional help to get it started. (I have used wordpress content management lots). Any help, or advice, would be so welcome!

    Can someone here assist please?

  • 1485
    guytaur
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:56 am | Permalink

    “@kazadipapa: RAN announces $700m heroin seizure & destruction off Tanzania Coast. WOW! No qualms disclosing operation matters to powerful drug cartels!!!”

  • 1486
    DisplayName
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:59 am | Permalink

    zoomster, the problem is you are participating in a corrupt system and making use of it’s corrupt mechanisms. Even if, by doing so, you were to create a better, non-corrupt system, it would be forever tainted by the means with which you achieved it. The correct thing to do is to not participate, encourage others not to participate, and effect change externally.

  • 1487
    CTar1
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 9:05 am | Permalink

    DN @ 1486

    Does your comment mean that Zoomster should just talk about it? (by herself in a cave somewhere in the hills)

    :grin:

  • 1488
    guytaur
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 9:09 am | Permalink

    @otiose94: Sportsbet #Griffithvotes @ 09:00:00 08/02/2014 ALP $1.13 lnp $5.00 Greens $101.00 #auspol Terri Butler http://t.co/orb0pT6W4w

    Antony Green on 24 soon with his analysis

  • 1489
    guytaur
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 9:12 am | Permalink

    Green on 24 now

  • 1490
    zoomster
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 9:14 am | Permalink

    DN

    Well, I’m not aware of anyone whose been particularly successful as effecting change externally.

    Of course, I don’t have the same view of my abilities as fran has of hers. I think I can do more good for people by engaging than by pontificating.

    This may be a recognition of my own puniness, and in a couple of decades fran will have achieved her goals by mere force of non involvement.

  • 1491
    guytaur
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 9:16 am | Permalink

    @smh: Federal government accused of bowing to the junk food industry after a new food rating system website was removed. http://t.co/u4m26ioAgx

  • 1492
    DisplayName
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 9:17 am | Permalink

    CTar @ 1487, not necessarily but I think that would be sensible. You want to isolate yourself from having any effect through the current system. It is ok to have other people in the cave as long as they’re fellow non-participants.

  • 1493
    guytaur
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 9:20 am | Permalink

    Wow things going backwards for the Republicans

    @cnnbrk: 64% of women over 50 say GOP is out of touch with women, CNN/ORC poll finds. http://t.co/yQ2bPxzUAv

  • 1494
    guytaur
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 9:24 am | Permalink

    @kcarruthers: Important! MT @nick_olle: #asylum
    At Work Inside Our Detention Centres: A Guard’s Story http://t.co/aF6y0biXVT #auspol

  • 1495
    DisplayName
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 9:29 am | Permalink

    One of the points of our current system is that it has an agreed upon set of rules for effecting change – even to change how change is effected. I don’t think it’s immoral to use those rules, or that we are being coerced into doing so, unless we’re talking about the more general coercion that we were never given the choice to disagree with those rules – when we were born, say – except for those few of us who are long dead founding members.

  • 1496
    DisplayName
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 9:31 am | Permalink

    Or immigrants! Now that I think about it, it should be ok to allow immigrants – who chose to accept the rules – into the cave.

  • 1497
    guytaur
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 9:37 am | Permalink

    Fairfax Media has been given evidence that Assistant Health Minister Fiona Nash, and her chief of staff, Alastair Furnival, personally intervened to have the site pulled down - despite it being approved through a Council of Australian Governments ministerial council.

    Mr Furnival acted as a spokesman last year for Kraft/Cadbury. He is also the former chairman of Australian Public Affairs, which is listed on the lobbyists register as representing the Australian Beverages Council and Mondelez Australia, which owns the Kraft peanut butter, Cadbury and Oreo brands, among others.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/anger-as-federal-food-guide-is-pulled-from-web-20140207-327bd.html#ixzz2sg7o1DnK

  • 1498
    DisplayName
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 9:38 am | Permalink

    Oh wait, that’s probabably not ok. They might go out and effect change by influencing others who were never given that chance and so you would indirectly (by a few degrees) be participating in the coercion of others.

  • 1499
    CTar1
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 9:41 am | Permalink

    DN – A new colony!

  • 1500
    DisplayName
    Posted Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 9:42 am | Permalink

    guytaur @ 1497
    There is talk about a cost-benefit analysis in that article. Why is it that subject only ever comes up w.r.t. Labor programs?

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