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Newspoll: 54-46 to Labor

The second Newspoll since the budget finds effectively no change from the first on voting intention, although personal ratings for both leaders have moderated after big shifts last time.

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Stephen Murray tweets that the fortnightly Newspoll in tomorrow’s Australian has Labor’s lead at 54-46, down from 55-45, from primary votes of 37% for Labor (down one), 36% for the Coalition (steady), 12% for the Greens (up one) and 15% for others (unchanged). However, the leadership ratings have moved back to trend after wild movements in the wake of the budget, with Tony Abbott up three on approval to 33% and down one on disapproval to 59%, and Bill Shorten down four to 38% and up four to 43%. Shorten’s big lead as preferred prime minister is nonetheless intact, the result shifting from 44-34 to 45-35.

Also out today is the latest result from Morgan, combining two weekends’ worth of face-to-face and SMS polling from a sample of 3247, likewise shows a holding pattern with Labor down half a point on the primary vote to 38%, the Coalition steady on 35%, the Greens down one to 11%, and Palmer United up one to a new high of 7.5%. On two-party preferred, Labor leads 55-45 if preferences are allocated as per the 2013 election result and by 56.5-43.5 based on respondents’ allocation, which respectively amounts to a drop for Labor of 1.5% and 1% on the poll conducted in the immediate aftermath of the budget.

In other polling news, it emerged today that Nielsen will shortly quit the political polling game to “focus on core strategic work directed at consumer purchasing and media consumption”. This will be effective from July, which I take to mean two more monthly results are still to come. Nielsen has been providing Fairfax with polling since the start of 1995, at which point the series travelled under the name of AGB McNair, which would shortly be acquired by the global market research concern then known as ACNielsen. Despite Fairfax’s present program of heavy cost-cutting, the organisation promises it is “currently exploring a range of options to strengthen and broaden the new Fairfax poll’s depth and reach”.

As one pollster leaves, another arrives – we will be hearing more in future from an outfit called I-view, which has lately taken to publishing fortnightly attitudinal results from its online polling. Its most recent results gauged opinion on the budget both before and after the event, and are well in line with the findings of other pollsters. I-view’s parent company is international market research firm Ipsos, whose UK branch Ipsos MORI is one of the biggest names in polling in that country.

UPDATE (Essential Research): This week’s fortnightly rolling aggregate finds the good ship Essential Research catching up on the budget backlash with a two-point drop in the Coalition vote to 38%, with Labor steady on 39% and the Greens and Palmer United each up a point, to 10% and 6% respectively. Labor gains a point on two-party preferred, its lead now at 53-47. Of the other questions asked, two are of particular interest. One relates to best person to lead the Liberal Party, the first such poll conducted since the election. This has Malcolm Turnbull leading Tony Abbott 31% to 18%, with Coalition voters favouring Abbott 43-27 and Labor supporters doing so for Turnbull to the tune of 37-3, with Joe Hockey on 6% and Julie Bishop on 4%. The last time Essential asked this question was in late July last year, at which point Turnbull was on 37%, Abbott on 17% and Hockey on 10%, lending credence to the notion that the latter has taken a hit from the budget. The other is the spectacular finding that 47% would support Labor blocking the budget and forcing a new election, with only 40% opposed.

Further questions find the budget having been deemed to have cut too heavily by 48%, too little by 11%, and just enough by 21%; 53% thinking Labor should vote against some of the budget, 18% against all of it, and 18% against none of it; the deficit levy deemed least deserving of blocking and deregulation of university fees the most. A semi-regular question on party most trusted to handle various issues has the Coalition taking double-digit post-budget hits on education, health, climate change and protection of Australian jobs and local industries, more moderate ones on management of the economy and political leadership, and none at all on security, asylum seekers and managing population growth.

William Bowe — Editor of The Poll Bludger

William Bowe

Editor of The Poll Bludger

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, is one of the most heavily trafficked forums for online discussion of Australian politics, and joined the Crikey stable in 2008.

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1,759 thoughts on “Newspoll: 54-46 to Labor

  1. gloryconsequence

    Last Newspoll was 55-45? Or was that Nielsen?

  2. roger bottomley

    Holding the line. Handy buffer for Labor.

  3. Everything

    the narrowing?

  4. imacca

    [ I never imbibed. ]

    Mod, given the level of ridiculous bollocks you post here on any number of issues i’ll take that as an Abbott style truth.

  5. shellbell

    Among the wanky advertising executives on Gruen Transfer, Dean reigned supreme

  6. BK

    Whack!!! There goes Dean to the floor courtesy of Kraus. “What do your CC models predict?”

  7. rummel

    I will be getting solar panels next year

  8. J341983

    I think it’s a decimal issue … 54.4% = 54% and 54.6%= 55%

  9. roger bottomley

    GC I think it was 55-45.

  10. Boerwar

    Turnbull persistently takes the debate down a byway. She talks the truth. It sounds reasonable. But she drags the debate down a conceptual dead end.

  11. Everything

    [imacca
    Posted Monday, June 2, 2014 at 10:19 pm | PERMALINK
    I never imbibed.

    Mod, given the level of ridiculous bollocks you post here]

    Huh?

    Everything Everything posts is gold.

  12. Raaraa

    I’m just glad Kraus is able to speak above Benardi and Dean.

  13. zoidlord

    @rummel/7

    Bit late, my parents made the investment ages ago, and it’s paying dividends (especially if we going to have hot summer).

  14. imacca

    Pity QANDA decided to have two loud, obnoxious and stupid right wingers on tonight. Actually i would have rather they had Bernardi, and a smartish right winger for contrast.

  15. Boerwar

    E getting back to E’s favourite topic.

  16. zoidlord

    @Mod Lib/11

    No, it’s mud.

  17. William Bowe

    Yes, the last Newspoll was 55-45.

  18. J341983

    Hilarious to watch Bernardi flinch when he thought Krauss was going to touch him.

  19. Dee

    Liberal mole!

    She’s gonna make me puke.

  20. Henry

    Catherine King has been quite poor on QandA.
    Too easily put off her point, has barely got a word in.
    In this format you just have to barrel over the top of the shriekers.

  21. poroti

    Is that Gina the Hutt in disguise asking the question ?

  22. BK

    Shouldn’t this old girl’s hair have had a BLUE rinse!

  23. rummel

    Zoidlord

    Have to get the house insulated properly first. We have pick bats in the roof, some still in the bag lol.

  24. roger bottomley

    I understand this poll might be one of the first since the election testing popularity of Coalition leaders.

  25. Dee

    Scowling Mrs Mac!

  26. Boerwar

    The last questioner sort of looked like a Greens gone wrong.

  27. zoidlord

    @rummel/23

    That is true!

  28. Darn

    I just love that 36 pv for the Libs. They’re still in the toilet where they belong.

  29. poroti

    J341983
    [
    Hilarious to watch Bernardi flinch when he thought Krauss was going to touch him]
    Krauss must be……
    a) A scientist
    b) Gay
    c) Atheist

  30. The Lorax

    Why did Jones let Dean speak again?!?

  31. Boerwar

    d) The Devil

  32. Swing Required

    A Newspoll 54/46 means the true situation is 55/45 minimum.

  33. gloryconsequence

    King hasn’t been poor, she’s just reasonably respectful of other people, hence why she can’t maintain a point.

  34. Boerwar

    Dean is repeating faithfully the Coalition talking points in today’s QT.

  35. Henry

    Tory rent a crowd cheering wildly tonight…

  36. Dee

    Dean is a condescending arsehole!

  37. confessions

    Qanda is simply a shoutfest tonight.

    Why bother?

  38. BK

    It is sickening watchng Dean and Bernardi.
    And Jones has been an abject failure in managing them.

  39. poroti

    A Godwin 😆 😆

  40. confessions

    [King hasn’t been poor, she’s just reasonably respectful of other people, hence why she can’t maintain a point.]

    The Qanda format doesn’t suit respectful.

  41. Henry

    Being respectful doesn’t work with shrieking tories glory.
    You just gotta barrel over the top of them like they do.
    No point playing nice with these guys.

  42. poroti

    Gina is baaaaack

  43. Dee

    Scowling Mrs Mac back!

  44. BK

    How come the Old Libs ranga gets three goes?

  45. Everything

    There are usually 3 left QandAs to 1 or 2 right QandAs.

    You guys don’t seem to like it the other way around much!

  46. Boerwar

    Yep. She’s escaped from the bottom of the garden.

  47. imacca

    [ King hasn’t been poor, she’s just reasonably respectful of other people, ]

    Agreed. Bernardi and Dean have been remarkably rude. Wonder if Poodle daH Pyne will berate them later for being ungentlemanly??

  48. leftwingpinko

    Rowan Dean is worse than Corey Bernardi. What a terrible partisan hack he is.

  49. J341983

    @45 – Bernardi and Dean qualify for 4 righties on their own.

  50. zoidlord

    @Mod Lib/45

    When you ignore putting an economist on (one with decent reputation), one that doesn’t thrash our economy, then those who speak about the Economy in a bad way, then yes.

  51. Everything

    Does David Marr count as 2 or 3 lefties then?

  52. poroti

    A Romanov. No wonder he does nae like anything hinting of socialism 🙂

  53. confessions

    Elephant in the room:

    [ABC Q&A @QandA · 1h
    In the #QandA audience tonight: COALITION 42%, ALP 34%, GREENS 12%.]

    When will Qanda start stacking its audience on current polling lines?

  54. J341983

    @51 … probably 2

  55. Bobalot

    I’m a bit confused.

    Labor is down 1%, Greens are up 1%, but the 2PP increases 1% to the Coalition?

    How does that work?

  56. gloryconsequence

    Bernardi has been fine. Completely disagree with everything he says, but he’s at least calm and diligent.

    However I’m fairly certain that Rowan Dean would have few mates.

  57. Boerwar

    E

    Who’s ‘right’?

    Bernardi is a religious kook who is not even part of the Government. He just sits around waiting for doG to tell him what to say.

    Dean must get a call from Credlin to tell HIM what to say.

  58. imacca

    [ You guys don’t seem to like it the other way around much! ]

    The problem is when the right wingers are idiot denialist morons who get all rude and shouty. Your type of people, you know, obnoxious dimwits telling lies.

  59. Henry

    Former communists make the most ardent capitalists.

  60. Dee

    Anyway fuack Q&A.

    Majority audience are Coalition, majority of panel are Coalition.

  61. J341983

    @55 – I think it’s about rounding…

  62. Boerwar

    Dean just caught out in a BIG LIE.

  63. zoidlord

    @imacca/58

    One could mistake them for being American….

  64. Boerwar

    Labor has lost its main message about the budget… the message that resonates… this budget is unfair.

  65. Everything

    [Henry
    Posted Monday, June 2, 2014 at 10:32 pm | PERMALINK
    Former communists make the most ardent capitalists.]

    They know the reality of the magic pudding economics many here propound.

  66. Everything

    I was once asked whether I wanted to go on QandA to represent the Buddhist point of view.

    I said no….

  67. poroti

    Now youse can see why Rowan Dean was there. To make Bernardi look relatively not so god-awful.

  68. J341983

    @65 – you really enjoy the attention from being a parody don’t you?

  69. J341983

    @65 – you really enjoy the attention from being a parody don’t you?

  70. gloryconsequence

    Boerwar

    Labor need to be as shrill and unreasonable as the Libs are. They hammer on their talking points every minute of every interview for months and years.

    It needs to be relentless.

  71. roger bottomley

    Boer war, why do you say that?

  72. imacca

    Krauss was good value when he got to comment. Catherine King did pretty well i thought. Did not have the barely restrained angry thing going that Bernardi did. Rowan Dean is just an obnoxious wanker spouting the lines aggressively. And Lucy Turnbull was a waste of space.

  73. J341983

    …hmm apologies for double-post.

  74. Boerwar

    [They know the reality of the magic pudding economics many here propound.]

    Could not agree more. These are the ones who think that the environment is infinite resource and infinite sump type magic pudding.

    How dumb is that?

  75. Everything

    …the content or the fact that it was duplicated?

    :devil:

  76. AussieAchmed

    meher baba

    Posted Monday, June 2, 2014 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

    AA@1631: it’s crazy crap whoever says it, be that Joh Bjelke, Peter Beattie, Bob Katter, Kevin Rudd, Barnaby Joyce, Tony Abbott or whoever.

    I can’t think of a better way to waste taxpayers’ money than on the Northern Myth. From Port Essington to the Ord River to the Alice to Darwin railway. Waste, waste, waste.

    Still waiting for dual carriageway bridges over a LOT of the rivers. Roads still impassable when it rains. It will cost billions upon billions. But then as Tony has shown with so many other decisions – What Gina wants, Gina gets!!.

    Best thing that happened was Federal Labor, a significant number of bridges got upgraded. Nothing got done under Howard.

  77. Darn

    [Boerwar
    Posted Monday, June 2, 2014 at 10:34 pm | PERMALINK
    Labor has lost its main message about the budget… the message that resonates… this budget is unfair
    ]

    People might have short memories, but not THAT short. It’s only been a couple of weeks since the budget.

  78. DisplayName

    What budget?

  79. Henry

    No mod lib, when it comes to magic pudding economics Hockey has that area covered.

  80. Boerwar

    rb

    Because the thing that really upset Australian people (apart from realizing that they had been comprehensively dudded by the best liar for decades) was not that a bit of belt tightening was needed, but that those least able to bear the belt tightening got to do most of it.

  81. confessions

    Well I’ve never encountered Rowan Dean before, but still, his presence was a total troll effort by Qanda IMO.

    And so it doesn’t matter what he says about things. The main message for Labor is that the budget fails because it is unfair. The reason coalition policy fails is because it disproportionately benefits high income households and disadvantages low income households.

  82. sceptic

    gloryconsequence @56

    It’s become common practice with the conservatives… result of focus group research & lots of coaching ….
    Look at Pyne & Bishop for change . … Malcolm is the only one ( in Lib ) who has genuine demeanour & respect for other point if view

  83. imacca

    [ Now youse can see why Rowan Dean was there. To make Bernardi look relatively not so god-awful. ]

    Yup.

    [ Labor need to be as shrill and unreasonable as the Libs are. ]

    Nope, just keep it real and reasonable while the right wingers tie themselves in knots telling people lies and getting things wrong.

    Then block everything in the Senate and watch the whingers squeal like pigs.

  84. Boerwar

    King had several opportunities to remind a large audience that this was an unfair budget. And she did not do so.

  85. confessions

    [They hammer on their talking points every minute of every interview for months and years.]

    Yes, that the Liberals, as evidenced by their policies are placing the interests of high income earners well ahead of the interests of everyone else.

  86. roger bottomley

    What makes you think they are now “off message”?

  87. guytaur

    Catherine King was good on QandA. She got the point across that Medicare is not free.

    Amongst others. Also some politicians may think its smart to talk over others but the audience hates it.

    Just look at the reaction to last week when debate happened with hardly any talking over each other.

  88. Boerwar

    Leadershit!!!!!!!!!!!

  89. roger bottomley

    Ok, I understand your comment now BW. I don’t watch Q&a.

    Shorten made those points brilliantly in his reply. The questions in today’s QT were along those lines and I see Swan had an article in today’s Guardian.

  90. confessions

    [King had several opportunities to remind a large audience that this was an unfair budget. And she did not do so.]

    A fair number of her responses were talked over by Bernardi and that Dean character.

    If anyone is in any doubt about how today’s Liberal party view the position of professional women in Australian society, a video of tonight’s Qanda is an exercise in gender politics.

  91. guytaur

    BW

    Totally disagree with you. King mentioned priorities not just with chaplains.

    By making points assertively not by yelling she was more convincing

  92. sceptic

    Borewar

    Repeating the obvious for the sake of repartition is a waste of time & an insult to the audience.
    Tonight was a total waste of time with Tony Jones useless hands off the wheel approach.
    ABC should sack him & save the money

  93. roger bottomley

    Bw – huh?

  94. psyclaw

    ModLib

    I couldn’t reply at the weekend but I did read the utter crap you wrote trying to defend the higher education budget aspects.

    I thought it was quite disgraceful and demeaned you.

    Your logic was way off beam and all you had to offer were shallow platitudes and simplicitudes.

  95. zoidlord

    GhostWhoVotes ‏@GhostWhoVotes 14s

    #Newspoll 2 Party Preferred: L/NP 46 (+1) ALP 54 (-1) #auspol

    GhostWhoVotes ‏@GhostWhoVotes 18s

    #Newspoll Primary Votes: L/NP 36 (0) ALP 37 (-1) GRN 12 (+1) #auspol

  96. fredex

    So Newspoll is essentially status quo, well within MOE.
    Everybody – COALition, ALP, Greens, Others inc PUP – is within 1 point of where they were last time. Neither here nor there.

    Personal ratings will be interesting.

  97. Everything

    Care to mention something of substance, or did you just want to insult?

  98. zoidlord

    GhostWhoVotes ‏@GhostWhoVotes 35s

    #Newspoll Abbott: Approve 33 (+3) Disapprove 59 (-1) #auspol

    GhostWhoVotes ‏@GhostWhoVotes 15s

    #Newspoll Shorten: Approve 38 (-4) Disapprove 43 (+4) #auspol

  99. Everything

    We know what happened the last time you posted the “utter crap” comment, don’t we?

    LOL 🙂

  100. zoidlord

    GhostWhoVotes ‏@GhostWhoVotes 24s

    #Newspoll Preferred PM: Abbott 35 (+1) Shorten 45 (+1) #auspol

  101. guytaur

    “@dowsteve: It was worth sitting through #qanda and its loud male egos to be impressed by Catherine King.”

  102. roger bottomley

    The Oz’s headline will be “Abbott bounces back!”

  103. psyclaw

    My assessment of some on Qanda.

    C King ……. Strong, calm, to the point

    C Bernadi ….. Views driven by dogma rather than rational thought, as usual …. In effect, a fool

    R Dean …. As I predicted three days ago, a mere prick, also loud mouthed egotist

    L Turnbull … Piss week. I have heard her being moderate, sensible, brave before, but on guard tonight ……. didn’t want to add to MT’s current issues.

  104. confessions

    Wow PPM results are still incredible given this is a first term govt and newly elected PM.

  105. teh_drewski

    GhostWhoVotes reporting on Twitter that Shorten’s back to a -5 net approval rating according to Newspoll.

    I think I know what the story is going to be tomorrow in the Oz.

  106. roger bottomley

    That’s a pretty amazing PPM figure.

  107. zoidlord

    Yeah I don’t know how PPM vs Approval/Disapproval can be so different.

  108. psyclaw

    No insult intended …. just post after post of vacuous nonsense. There for anyone to read. Pee week attempts to gloss the cuts, new HECs, and de-regulation as justifiable.

    Go back and read them yourself, but be prepared to be embarrassed (if you possess an iota of self reflective ability).

  109. Everything

    Aint it just that folks don’t like Shorten but they hate Abbott?

  110. Everything

    I don’t need to re-read them, I wrote them!

    If there is a matter of substance you wish to debate, let me know.

    If you just wanted to vent your rage, vent away!!!

  111. roger bottomley

    Everything, that will do me just fine!

  112. confessions

    [GhostWhoVotes reporting on Twitter that Shorten’s back to a -5 net approval rating according to Newspoll.]

    And then you look at Abbott’s. Much worse.

  113. mari

    Quite happy with figures would have prefered 56 alp to 44 lnp :devil: Happy with PPM

    Going to have an early drink purely to help my back of course 😀

  114. victoria

    Helen Noonan former coalition MP was on a sky program earlier tonight. Asked about leadershit.

    She said no way coalition would change leader. They know only too well how bad it was for Labor and will not do the same thing, she believes Abbott will lead the coalition to the next election

  115. Fran Barlow

    The format of QANDA really is more predicated on generating heat rather than light – that and the ABC’s faux balance schtick.

    It would be far better having on people with standing to speak on the substance of public policy rather than banter rhetoric.

    Krauss was pretty good, but really, the others had no business being there. Dean and Bernardi had nothing but the Murdoch debt and surplus.memes, ignorantly reiterated and Ms King really was clearly playing in the wrong venue. Ms Turnbull added zip to insight.

    Really, that silly woman at the end who suggested that Abbott and Hockey were our parents and those of us objecting to the budget were naughty children ought to have been ridiculed, but who on the panel was going to do that? Not Ms King and not even Mr Krauss.

  116. guytaur

    Lateline has Professor Chubb on now

  117. teh_drewski

    confessions – won’t stop the Oz leading with how Shorten’s numbers have “collapsed” and how that Abbott’s “recovery” indicates that the budget “logic” is finally “winning over voters”.

  118. zoidlord

    SMH Poll now 32k:

    Total votes: 32125.

    with Turnbull on 75% of the votes.

  119. Everything

    [Fran Barlow
    …..Really, that silly woman at the end who suggested that Abbott and Hockey were our parents and those of us objecting to the budget were naughty children ought to have been ridiculed]

    You advocate ridicule rather than arguing a case?

  120. fredex

    *Netsat
    Abbott -26
    Shorten -5

    Who would you rather be?

    *PPM
    Shorten 45 : Abbott 35

    Same question.

    *2PP
    ALP 54
    COAL 45

    And again.

    ALP lead consolidated. Good result for the ALP, bad result for COALition, OK to good for others and Greens.

    Abbott way behind on approval down by 26 on netsat, behind by 10 on PPM.

    Not a good time for a jaunt overseas, “whilst the cat’s away …”.
    No doubt Rupert’s minions will run the ‘statesman’ line but the plebs in the Lib backbenches will have other things on their minds.

  121. Wakefield

    Q and A needs to lift its game. Rude behaviour needs to be removed or the proponents removed from further invites.

  122. Everything

    zoidlord:

    …..don’t get too excited, thats just me and my autodialer.

  123. Rossmore

    That Tony Abbott Last Week Tonight video has been viewed 250,000 times on You Tube and shared 27K times on Facebook.

    Terminal is the word that comes to mind.

  124. guytaur

    “@Lateline: “I didn’t have any role in it” – Prof. Ian Chubb on the Governments Medical Research Fund. #Lateline”

  125. Everything

    YIKES!

    Australia’s Chief Scientist knew nothing of the $20 Billion Research fund……

  126. gloryconsequence

    The Oz front page

    [PM pinned down by budget: Newspoll]
    [A TWO-WEEK campaign to sell what Tony Abbott insists is “the right budget for this time” has failed to deliver any boost for the government.]

  127. Fran Barlow

    ET

    Ridicule and arguing a case aren’t mutually exclusive.

  128. rossmcg

    PJ Keating once said he didn’t know why anybody would bother going on q and a.

    I gave up on it years ago but I follow the thread here each Monday and that usually reinforces my view that it is a waste of time. I wonder who decided that having people with entrenched positions argue with other made good television.,

    If the ABC needs to save money cutting q and a might be a good starting point.

  129. confessions

    [A TWO-WEEK campaign to sell what Tony Abbott insists is “the right budget for this time” has failed to deliver any boost for the government after it handed down the worst received federal budget in more than 20 years.]

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/newspoll-shows-tony-abbott-pinned-down-by-budget/story-e6frg6n6-1226940763136#

    Not Shanahan. Perhaps his anti Shorten spin comes later.

  130. The Lorax

    psyclaw@103: And Krauss?

  131. Everything

    Fran:

    That lady had every right to ask her question.

    If she was making incorrect assumptions, point that out. What were they in your view?

  132. psyclaw

    Mod Lib

    See #86 #93 #94 #103 #109 in previous thread for starters.

    In those, you were arguing that the HECS changes are no big deal.

    Disgraceful, given that you apparently work in the research sector.

    As I write, Ian Chubb is ridiculing the dereg of unis, and saying that there’ll be fewer and very more expensive courses.

    Add to him at least 6 other VCs I’ve’ seen ridiculing the changes.

    But rusted on old you just parrots the Abbotteer line.

  133. guytaur

    I too am happy with Newspoll basically holding steady.

    No positive headlines for Abbott. 🙂

  134. psyclaw

    The Lorax

    I quite enjoyed Krauss. It’s always difficult for visitors but he knew a fair bit about the state of affairs here. And he uses rational argument.

    IMHO he acquitted himself better than most OS guests, some of whom are completely in the dark.

  135. Rossmore

    So tonights The Australian’s verdict on Newspoll is…

    “The latest Newspoll, conducted exclusively for The Australian, shows the Coalition’s primary vote remains stuck at a 4½-year low of 36 per cent ¬ despite the efforts of the Prime Minister and Joe Hockey to sell the need for the controversial measures in the budget.”

    Wow, that’s about as bad as it gets.

    There will undoubtedly be consequences.

  136. Everything

    YIKES!

    So “vacuous nonsense” and “Pee week attempts to gloss the cuts, new HECs, and de-regulation as justifiable” and “be prepared to be embarrassed” and “if you possess an iota of self reflective ability”

    are all because my posts meant “HECS changes are no big deal”

    :devil:

  137. Steve777

    Somehow I think Ian Chubb won’t be reappointed as Chief Scientist by when his term expires (early 2016 assuming a 5 year term). Knowing this Government, the position will probably be abolished then, if not before. Or a Climate Change Denier or a witch doctor might be appointed.

  138. psyclaw

    Mod Lib

    If I might be so bold to enter a reply to your unicorn question to Fran, the flaw in the lady’s question was her claim that we are in dire straights economically.

    You and she and the Abbotteers themselves are the only ones in the country who believe this.

  139. zoidlord

    HECS changes are big deal, especially if you wanted people like myself back into learning while Kevin Andrews attacks Social Services.

    Can’t have it both ways Mod Lib.

    I have done too much TAFE to waste my time in the education system.

  140. DisplayName

    Mod
    [Australia’s Chief Scientist knew nothing of the $20 Billion Research fund……]
    Just goes to show how useless those scientists are. He should be sacked.

  141. ShowsOn

    As Tony Greig used to say:
    [Abbort is forked!]

  142. confessions

    Steve777:

    I’d reckon he’d wouldn’t accept the offer of a re-appointment anyway. Chubb seems a thoroughly decent man and consumate professional who is barely keeping it together in the face of this govt’s rank numptyness.

  143. Steve777

    Australia’s Chief Scientist knew nothing of the $20 Billion Research fund……

    That research fund just seemed to pop up out of nowhere. Ian Chubb was polite, suggesting that the Health Department or other stakeholders may have been consulted. It has all the appearance of being another Abbott brain fart like Direct Inaction or Abbott’s PPL.

  144. Everything

    [I have done too much TAFE to waste my time in the education system.]

    I support your decision.

  145. psyclaw

    No, those terms describe yor assumptions and pleadings on behalf of the Abbotteers.

    Why don’t you have the courage to just say up front that you are an Abbottteer at heart, despite your fantasies and pseudo attractions about to MT.

    It would be quite amusing to see you change your mind on pretty well everything youusually say, in the unlikely situation that MT became leader (and cha need most of their present policies)

  146. bemused

    confessions@90


    King had several opportunities to remind a large audience that this was an unfair budget. And she did not do so.


    A fair number of her responses were talked over by Bernardi and that Dean character.

    If anyone is in any doubt about how today’s Liberal party view the position of professional women in Australian society, a video of tonight’s Qanda is an exercise in gender politics.

    Nothing to do with gender and everything to do with pig ignorance and bad manners by Rowan Dean.

  147. taylormade

    guytaur @ 135

    What happened to your prediction though ?

    From memory regular poster Sohar was on the money with the Newspoll result.

  148. Everything

    I said earlier, just after the budget, that I thought they had gone too far.

    In fact I think I described it as being like Abbott’s Workchoices.

    The overblown rhetoric about it being the end of the University sector is a bit ridiculous, particularly coming from ALP tragics, given the ALP introduced (or re-introduced to be precise) charges to go to Uni.

  149. guytaur

    @WhiteHouse: RT to spread the word: President Obama just took a big step to #ActOnClimate and protect our health. http://t.co/qu55I4ihhT

  150. Rossmore

    So The Oz judges the two week Budget sell a failure.

    When the LNPs staunchest media defender makes this kind of assertion you know they are in deep, deep poo.

    On the same day, the first simmering leadership tension with the Bolt-Turnbull imbroglio.

    And since my last post 15 minutes ago another 8,000 views of the Tony Abbott Last Week Tonight video and a further 1,000 Facebook shares.

    A tidal wave of political dissent or just social media chatter?

    In PR terms this LNP Government is on the ropes, its credibility in tatters.

    And what gaffes lie in store with Tone’s excellent D-Day adventure in Europe and America?

  151. guytaur

    Taylormade

    What prediction?

  152. confessions

    [julianburnside ‏@JulianBurnside 1h
    Why do women get interrupted so often on #qanda ?]

    1. The show persists with nuff nuff anti women Liberal panelists.

    2. Tony Jones hasn’t learned basic manners?

  153. DisplayName

    Mod
    [I said earlier, just after the budget, that I thought they had gone too far.]
    Politically or have they even passed your values?

  154. guytaur

    confessions

    That includes the all woman panel they had

  155. Everything

    Did Bernardi and Dean get interrupted or was it just the female panelists?

  156. confessions

    [And since my last post 15 minutes ago another 8,000 views of the Tony Abbott Last Week Tonight video and a further 1,000 Facebook shares.]

    I’ve since had 105 likes and 48 shares, which makes that video the most popular of all the videos I’ve ever posted on Facebook. 🙂

  157. Everything

    Have they even passed my values?

    Hmmmm…..this seems to imply that I have a barren set of values and the Abbott government has gone so far as to manage to snake its way beneath “even” my depths.

    Would that be a correct interpretation?