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BludgerTrack: 53.7-46.3 to Labor

The weekly BludgerTrack poll trend continues a trend of mild recovery for the Coalition following the post-budget slump, although Bill Shorten remains well ahead as preferred prime minister.

Despite the interruption of the long weekend, two new results have been added to this week’s BludgerTrack polling aggregate: the regular weekly result from Essential Research, and the first Morgan phone poll to emerge since the election (as distinct from Morgan’s regular multi-mode poll, which had an off-week in its fortnightly publication schedule).

The fortnightly rolling average from Essential Research finds Labor gaining a point off the Coalition on both the primary vote, on which it now leads 40% to 37%, and two-party preferred, where the lead is out from 53-47 to 54-46. Other findings from Essential this week are that 43% think Australian society less fair and equal than 20 years ago compared with 28% for more, with all but a few respondents declining to sign on the idea that equality and fairness are important to Australian society. A large majority of 48% to 21% agreed the next generation will be worse off than today’s, on what basis I’d be curious to know. The poll also inquired about drone strikes, finding 45% disapproving of the United States’ use theoreof against 35% who approved. Fifty-eight per cent of respondents professed themselves concerned by the potential for Australians to be hit versus 33% not concerned, after it was put to them that “two male Australian citizens were killed in a drone strike in Yemen that targeted alleged terrorists”.

Essential is also one of two pollsters this week to bring us leadership approval ratings, this being a regular monthly feature in Essential’s case. The latest numbers for Tony Abbott have approval steady at 35% and disapproval up three to 58%; Bill Shorten up three on both approval and disapproval, to 38% and 40%; and Shorten widening the two-party preferred lead he cracked for the first time in the previous poll, from 37-36 to 40-36. The other leadership poll came from Roy Morgan courtesy of one of its increasingly infrequent small-sample phone polls, this one targeting 560 respondents from Tuesday to Thursday last week. The poll has Abbott on 34% approval and 59% disapproval, which is well in line with Essential Research and last week’s Newspoll, while Bill Shorten comes in a little below par on 35% and 45%. Shorten also holds what by recent polling standards is a narrow lead of 40-36 as preferred prime minister.

Morgan also takes a timely venture into preferred party leader polling, finding Malcolm Turnbull to be towering above Tony Abbott with a 44% for preferred Coalition leader against 15% for Abbott, 11% for Joe Hockey, 7% for Julie Bishop and 5% for Barnaby Joyce. Inflating Turnbull’s lead is a 56-1 advantage among Labor supporters, with Coalition supporters breaking 35-29 for Abbott. Bill Shorten holds a modest lead as preferred Labor with 22% against 16% for Tanya Plibersek and 15% for Anthony Albanese.

The fine print of the Morgan release also advises us that voting intention figures from the poll had the Coalition on 38.5%, Labor on 36%, the Greens on 12.5% and Palmer United on 3.5%, which is an above-average result for the Coalition on recent form, and a strikingly weak one for Palmer United. These figures have been thrown into the mix for BludgerTrack, and given the strong historic record of Morgan’s phone polling and the lack of other major data this week, they loom fairly large in the result. In particular, the recent surge to Palmer United has been blunted to the tune of 2%, which I would want to see corroborated by other polling before I read too much into it. There is also a slight easing in Labor’s lead on two-party preferred, translating into losses on the seat projection of two in Queensland and one each in New South Wales, Victoria and Tasmania, counterbalanced by a gain in Western Australia.

The new leadership date results in Tony Abbott’s personal rating continuing to rise slowly from the canvas following its post-budget collapse, while Bill Shorten’s levels off around a net rating of zero. The substantial lead Shorten has opened as preferred prime minister is little changed.

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  • 1401
    CTar1
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 1:59 pm | Permalink

    guy

    Here is an example of a practical application for those that lose keys and the like.

    I just sent your link off to my nephew. He’s forever loosing car keys, mobile phones, etc.

  • 1402
    confessions
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 1:59 pm | Permalink

    victoria:

    Agreed.

  • 1403
    badcat
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 2:00 pm | Permalink

    CTar1

    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 1:42 pm | Permalink

    Bw – Brandis is proof that academic learning is no measure of common sense.

    I find it amazing that he got an Oxford BCL and did it in one year. Even Talcum took two to finish off the Oxford BCL.

    Not ‘occupied’ – another FFS.

    ————————————————-

    Urban Dictionary : Educated Idiot

    An Educated Idiot is a person that went to college, but is dumber than a rock. The Educated Idiot feels like he is smart, but they screw up everything they get involved in.

  • 1404
    CTar1
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 2:01 pm | Permalink

    badcat – Spot on.

  • 1405
    confessions
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 2:03 pm | Permalink

    PvO is off on a twitter rant about some member of the legal profession whom he doesn’t name.
    https://twitter.com/vanonselenp

    Wonder who he’s referring to.

  • 1406
    confessions
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 2:06 pm | Permalink

    Seems it’s Nowicki.
    http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/vic/VCAT/2011/1003.html?stem=0&synonyms=0&query=

  • 1407
    CTar1
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 2:08 pm | Permalink

    ‘fess

    Nowiki (sp?) of course.

    A strange rant from PVO.

    I predict he’ll kill his Twitter account … again … over the weekend.

    I don’t want to be bemused like but PVO must be on something.

  • 1408
    badcat
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    bemused

    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 1:59 pm | Permalink

    Recommended reading for Psephos.

    http://www.theage.com.au/world/a-wakeup-call-for-the-architects-of-the-new-iraq-20140613-zs6sq.html

    ———————————————

    Paul McGeough – one of the last true journalists – who KNOWS what they are talking about !!!

    “Funny that – as the last American troops quit Baghdad in 2011, Mr Obama celebrated Iraq as “sovereign, stable and self-reliant”.

    As Mr Obama spoke a ”we told you so” queue was forming, and at its head was Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov – “we warned long ago that the adventurism the Americans and the British started [in Iraq] would not end well”.

    He could just as easily have thrown into the mix John Howard and Alexander Downer and their irrepressible Australian cheer squad that always assured us that everything in Iraq was going to be alright.”

  • 1409
    confessions
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 2:11 pm | Permalink

    CTar:

    I haven’t really followed the union RC so am not familiar with happenings there.

  • 1410
    shellbell
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

    It is pretty serious

    http://inbrief.nswbar.asn.au/posts/f94aa2a92a9039a560bd7a3a480af61b/attachment/abamr.pdf

  • 1411
    CTar1
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

    shellbell

    It’s a very strong statement from the ABA.

  • 1412
    poroti
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 2:34 pm | Permalink

    bemused

    The Americans may even end up cheering for Iran.

    An Iranian general arrived in Baghdad on Friday on a visit senior Iraqi officials said was aimed at leading the defence of the capital from a raging jihadist insurgency.

    Major General Qassem Suleimani, a powerful figure who plays significant role in Iraq's affairs, met with a series of militia leaders and Sunni tribal sheikhs in control of Baghdad's western approaches

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/13/iran-general-assists-with-preparing-baghdad-defence-from-insurgents-isis

  • 1413
    dave
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 2:52 pm | Permalink

    poroti@1412

    The Americans may even end up cheering for Iran.

    Maybe for the first 5 minutes – the Persians will have what they wanted for ages, to ‘conquer’ Iraq.

    All that additional oil as well as the religious upper hand.

  • 1414
    KEVIN-ONE-SEVEN
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

    BADCAT – The Oxford BCL can be done in one or two years. The two year course is longer. Most people just do the one year course.

  • 1415
    KEVIN-ONE-SEVEN
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 2:56 pm | Permalink

    Terribly disappointed that between Chile’s second goal and our first I was called away to do some urgent gardening, because my faith in the cause was never shaken.
    We lost that game in the first 14 minutes when an incredibly inexperienced side went up against a team of hard-cases who had to go through the cauldron of South American qualifying. After that, we ran their socks off. Holland better not take us lightly.

  • 1416
    bemused
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 3:01 pm | Permalink

    poroti@1412

    bemused

    The Americans may even end up cheering for Iran.


    An Iranian general arrived in Baghdad on Friday on a visit senior Iraqi officials said was aimed at leading the defence of the capital from a raging jihadist insurgency.

    Major General Qassem Suleimani, a powerful figure who plays significant role in Iraq’s affairs, met with a series of militia leaders and Sunni tribal sheikhs in control of Baghdad’s western approaches


    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/13/iran-general-assists-with-preparing-baghdad-defence-from-insurgents-isis

    Interesting that he is meeting with Sunni tribal sheikhs.

    This seems to point to an intention to play a positive role rather than lead a Shiite conquest.

    Iran also borders Afghanistan and could play a constructive role there too if it wanted to.

  • 1417
    badcat
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 3:01 pm | Permalink

    KEVIN-ONE-SEVEN

    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

    BADCAT – The Oxford BCL can be done in one or two years. The two year course is longer. Most people just do the one year course.

    ———————————————-

    I think it was Ctar1′s post, Kevin …. I am not an Oxford scholar….. however I guess the 2 year course is LONGER than the 1 year course ;)

  • 1418
    KEVIN-ONE-SEVEN
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 3:05 pm | Permalink

    Someone like Brandis could never really prosper in a broad-based party. People just wouldn’t stomach him. But the liberal party (even more than labor) is just a clique – and despite that, they had to squirrel him away in the Senate.

  • 1419
    lizzie
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 3:09 pm | Permalink

    When the New Zealand government introduced online anti-piracy measures, similar to those being considered here, what followed was some unknowing parents were shocked to receive fines for thousands of dollars .

    It is the internet account holders who are ultimately responsible – even though it may have been the kids who were sharing pirated music produced by the likes of Rihanna, Ke$ha, and Lady Gaga. Under New Zealand's "three strikes" law, internet service providers are required to issue offenders with two warnings before a tribunal levies financial penalties.

    http://www.theage.com.au/digital-life/digital-life-news/worlds-worst-pirates-and-their-parents-face-walking-the-plank-20140613-zs5pb.html

  • 1420
    poroti
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    dave

    The Iranians already controlled a lot of what goes on anyway. This is an article about that general from 3 years ago.

    Qassem Suleimani: the Iranian general 'secretly running' Iraq

    Martin Chulov reports on the elusive Iranian with so much Iraqi influence that Baghdadis believe he is controlling the country

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jul/28/qassem-suleimani-iran-iraq-influence

  • 1421
    lizzie
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 3:12 pm | Permalink

    In response Melbourne City Council has set perhaps the most ambitious climate change goal in Australia – to produce zero net emissions from the CBD and surrounding suburbs under its oversight by 2020.

    Needless to say it is a level of ambition not matched by state and federal governments.

    In fact Adams – credited with revitalising the CBD over recent decades – is upset about what he describes as the federal government's retreat on the issue.

    "Why don't I get depressed, when I look at my little grand daughter who is eight months old?" he says.

    "I think they are going to be shamed into action, I think it is going to be so embarrassing to be in the space they are in, with the assets and the ability they have got, they'll have to move out of that space and back into the real world."

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/city-of-melbourne-aims-to-become-carbon-neutral-leader-20140613-zs5xy.html#ixzz34aTc2ccz

  • 1422
    badcat
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 3:12 pm | Permalink

    KEVIN-ONE-SEVEN

    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 3:05 pm | Permalink

    Someone like Brandis could never really prosper in a broad-based party. People just wouldn’t stomach him. But the liberal party (even more than labor) is just a clique – and despite that, they had to squirrel him away in the Senate.

    —————————————————

    Brandis is a great example of the saying – You can’t make anything idiot proof because idiots are so ingenious. A great example of the chasm between academic brilliance and common sense ….. an overeducated idiot ….

  • 1423
    AussieAchmed
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 3:14 pm | Permalink

    victoria

    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 11:33 am | Permalink

    Abbott obviously has staffers not doing a very professional job at present. They probably checked out the name on wikipedia rather than confirm the details via the proper channels

    That’s because they hired Liberal/IPA’tea party types instead of well educated intelligent people

  • 1424
    poroti
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 3:15 pm | Permalink

    bemused

    Also telling that he did not bother meeting Maliki or the army generals.

  • 1425
    lizzie
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 3:16 pm | Permalink

    In an unusual and symbolically significant move, Mr Abbott has co-authored an opinion column with US President Barack Obama, which has been published in the Los Angeles Times newspaper.

    The Op-Ed, titled "Obama and Abbott: The U.S. and Australia make common cause in the Pacific", is being trumpeted by those close to Mr Abbott as the strongest possible rebuke to Labor's assertions that his stance on climate change is threatening the US relationship and endangering global talks on his overseas trip.
    Shadow foreign minister Tanya Plibersek branded Mr Abbott a "Nigel no friends" on the world stage and shadow environment minister Mark Butler has warned the Prime Minister is undermining Australia's international credibility with his lack of interest in global warming.

    But the co-authored column makes no mention of climate change and instead trumpets the close and dependable military and economic ties between Australia and the US.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/tony-abbott-and-barack-obama-coauthor-oped-on-their-countrys-close-ties-20140614-zs7tq.html#ixzz34aV2a0ZW

  • 1426
    poroti
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 3:17 pm | Permalink

    badcat

    A mate gad a version of that saying which I liked. The problem with making things idiot proof is that the idiots keep getting smarter.

  • 1427
    lizzie
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 3:19 pm | Permalink

    Excuse me while I have a little tanty.

    Labor says prime minister Tony Abbott has reached a new low in planning to target the many people who care for the sick, disabled and elderly.

    Labor’s families spokeswoman, Jenny Macklin, said the government was targeting the welfare payments, supplements and allowance that carers relied on while performing incredibly important work.

    . . .The Australian newspaper says carers would be required to prepare for a return to work.

    It says the government is concerned that the current system of "set and forget" means carers could finish caring with no real skills for work. Carer payments are also rising by almost 10 per cent a year and are expected to reach $17.1 billion by 2023-24

    The newspaper said the government was considering linking carer payments to the disability support pension.

    That sparked outrage from Labor.

    "Tony Abbott has reached a new low," Macklin told reporters in Melbourne. She said Abbott needed to understand that carers were working 24 hours a day, looking after the sick and disabled and elderly.

    "Now Tony Abbott is saying that in addition to doing your caring role you are going to have to get ready to look for work," she said.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/14/tony-abbott-planning-to-target-carers-allowances-labor-claims

  • 1428
    bemused
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 3:20 pm | Permalink

    poroti@1424

    bemused

    Also telling that he did not bother meeting Maliki or the army generals.

    Perhaps, but they could be already well acquainted.
    The reaching out to the Sunnis is what strikes me as most important and it seems to have been one of Maliki’s failings.

  • 1429
    badcat
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 3:27 pm | Permalink

    poroti

    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 3:17 pm | Permalink

    badcat

    A mate gad a version of that saying which I liked. The problem with making things idiot proof is that the idiots keep getting smarter.

    —————————————————-

    Poroti – the thing I dislike most about Brandis – is that he seems to use his intellect in such a nasty, vile and vindictive manner to go out a *destroy* a person that he considers beneath him and his born to rule superiority and mentality…..

    “Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and consciencious stupidity.”
    -Martin Luther King, Jr.

  • 1430
    poroti
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 3:29 pm | Permalink

    bemused

    Maliki is the American Captain’s pick so not meeting him was probably just a reflection of that . But yes him meeting the Sheiks is very important. Who he met probably reflects where the real power is. The Sunni sheiks and the Shia militia leaders.

    From the article about him he seems a pretty smart operator. Not a fundy nutter……………thank goodness.

  • 1431
    bemused
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 3:37 pm | Permalink

    poroti@1430

    bemused

    Maliki is the American Captain’s pick so not meeting him was probably just a reflection of that . But yes him meeting the Sheiks is very important. Who he met probably reflects where the real power is. The Sunni sheiks and the Shia militia leaders.

    From the article about him he seems a pretty smart operator. Not a fundy nutter……………thank goodness.

    I must read that article.

    Fundy nutterism seems to come mostly out of Saudi Arabia these days.

  • 1432
    poroti
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

    badcat

    Well said Mr King.

  • 1433
    badcat
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 3:43 pm | Permalink

    bemused

    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 3:37 pm | Permalink

    Fundy nutterism seems to come mostly out of Saudi Arabia these days.

    —————————————–

    Reminder : 15 of the 19 alleged 9/11 terrorists were citizens of Saudi Arabia.

    ( even if ‘some’ of the 19 named by the FBI are still alive )

  • 1434
    poroti
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 3:47 pm | Permalink

    bemused

    As it has for years. But they have oil so lets attack everyone else. As Robert Fisk wrote recently.

    Iraq crisis: Sunni caliphate has been bankrolled by Saudi Arabia

    From Aleppo in northern Syria almost to the Iraqi-Iranian border, the jihadists of Isis and sundry other groupuscules paid by the Saudi Wahhabis – and by Kuwaiti oligarchs – now rule thousands of square miles.........Saudi Arabia will continue to be treated as a friendly “moderate” in the Arab world, even though its royal family is founded upon the Wahhabist convictions of the Sunni Islamists in Syria and Iraq – and even though millions of its dollars are arming those same fighters. Thus does Saudi power both feed the monster in the deserts of Syria and Iraq and cosy up to the Western powers that protect it.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/iraq-crisis-sunni-caliphate-has-been-bankrolled-by-saudi-arabia-9533396.html

  • 1435
    badcat
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 3:47 pm | Permalink

    The others were from the United Arab Emirates (2), Egypt and Lebanon.

    So – we invade Irag and Afghanistan ….well duh !!!!

  • 1436
    bemused
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 3:50 pm | Permalink

    badcat@1433


    bemused

    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 3:37 pm | Permalink

    Fundy nutterism seems to come mostly out of Saudi Arabia these days.


    —————————————–

    Reminder : 15 of the 19 alleged 9/11 terrorists were citizens of Saudi Arabia.

    ( even if ‘some’ of the 19 named by the FBI are still alive )

    And not one Iraqi, Iranian or Afghani among them.

    Strikes me as more than passing strange.

  • 1437
    ruawake
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

    lizzie

    I wondered how long it would be before Abbott took on Carers.

    Another foolish move, carers save the Govt money, they are not a cost. I assume he wants the Carers Alliance to stand candidates in marginal seats advocating a vote against the Liberal Party.

  • 1438
    bemused
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 3:53 pm | Permalink

    poroti@1434

    bemused

    As it has for years. But they have oil so lets attack everyone else. As Robert Fisk wrote recently.


    Iraq crisis: Sunni caliphate has been bankrolled by Saudi Arabia

    From Aleppo in northern Syria almost to the Iraqi-Iranian border, the jihadists of Isis and sundry other groupuscules paid by the Saudi Wahhabis – and by Kuwaiti oligarchs – now rule thousands of square miles………Saudi Arabia will continue to be treated as a friendly “moderate” in the Arab world, even though its royal family is founded upon the Wahhabist convictions of the Sunni Islamists in Syria and Iraq – and even though millions of its dollars are arming those same fighters. Thus does Saudi power both feed the monster in the deserts of Syria and Iraq and cosy up to the Western powers that protect it.


    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/iraq-crisis-sunni-caliphate-has-been-bankrolled-by-saudi-arabia-9533396.html

    Yes, it really is an intolerable situation and one that ALL the major powers including Russia and China have a stake in remedying. Or so I would have thought.

    The Saudis fund the Chechens and others in Russia and I bet they are supporting militant Uighurs in China.

    Enough is enough I say!

  • 1439
    victoria
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    An excellent summary of what this govt is all about

    https://mobile.twitter.com/vogrady2132/status/477680333169901569/photo/1

  • 1440
    victoria
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 3:55 pm | Permalink

    ruawake

    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 3:51 pm | PERMALINK
    lizzie

    I wondered how long it would be before Abbott took on Carers.

    Another foolish move, carers save the Govt money, they are not a cost. I assume he wants the Carers Alliance to stand candidates in marginal seats advocating a vote against the Liberal Party.

    This mob are idiotic

  • 1441
    deblonay
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 4:01 pm | Permalink

    Paul Mc. article on Iraq says it all

    So Maliki became PM not because of some electoral miracles…as Psephos was given to claiming…but becasue he was the CIA chief in Baghdad
    As McG says in the article….all Ok by our US Cheer Squad here…btw what’s happened to Psephos??

    and now the final Irony that Maliki might be saved by the Irianian army…what a grim joke on the USA

    ..and Netanyahui wanted the US to attack and destroy Iran

  • 1442
    ruawake
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    There is a $600 cash payment due to be paid to carers an 1st July, some will get $1,200 if they get carer payment and allowance.

    I thought this would be Abbott’s first attack, but it must be too late to stop it? Surely?

  • 1443
    CTar1
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    kevin

    Most people just do the one year course.

    And a fair number of them fail and have to try a second time.

    I’ve got a Masters from KCL in law but it’s not nearly the equivalent of an Oxford BCL.

  • 1444
    dave
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    poroti
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    The Iranians already controlled a lot of what goes on anyway.

    Maybe be part of the problem?

    Mind you I am not pretending to be the ‘suppository’ of knowledge on this – it just looks a total mess which is going to get worse –

    The prospect of Iranian intervention in the Iraq crisis threatens to turn Iraq into a bloody battleground between Sunnis and Shiites.

    Spurred by threats against Shia holy sites in southern Iraq, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani announced on Thursday his country was prepared to wage “combat” to repel the jihadist group known as the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), which is currently sweeping across north and central Iraq.

    ...If Iranian forces are introduced into this Sunni heartland to stop the jihadists, even more Sunnis are likely to be driven into ISIL’s arms and the war will be on.

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/irans-intervention-in-troubled-iraq-could-broaden-regional-conflict/article19150829/

  • 1445
    deblonay
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 4:10 pm | Permalink

    The attack on carers in full attack mode
    _________________

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/14/tony-abbott-planning-to-target-carers-allowances-labor

  • 1446
    dave
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 4:13 pm | Permalink

    The thing that gives me the shits in all of this is abbott rushing forward to involve Australia in again as if he was handing out ice cream. Not that that aspect is getting much analysis in the media etc.

    A nation that permits abbott to decide to involve it in another war. FFS

    Voters sure pick a idiot at last year election and will pay for it for many years to come.

  • 1447
    Just Me
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 4:14 pm | Permalink

    1437
    ruawake

    lizzie

    I wondered how long it would be before Abbott took on Carers.

    Another foolish move,...

    As moronic and callous as it gets.

    Maybe their cunning plan is to simply wear us all down into submission with an endless flood of this filth.

  • 1448
    Just Me
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 4:16 pm | Permalink

    Correct link.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/14/tony-abbott-planning-to-target-carers-allowances-labor-claims

  • 1449
    deblonay
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 4:18 pm | Permalink

    Saudis fund a number of terrorists groups.________
    \_______________
    The Saudi funding for the Chechens against Russia,was behind the report that Chenchen terrorists intended to disrupt the Soochi Winter Olympics in Russia

    The story was that having learned of this Putin summoned the Saudi For’gn. Minister and warned that such an attack would prompt a Russian attack(rockets?) on Saudi itself which the Russians would brand as the culprit behind any trouble in Soochi…

    The Games passed without incident!!

    The Saudis are now funding the Egyptian Military distatorship…they have oceans of money to spare to fund their religious viewws

  • 1450
    CTar1
    Posted Saturday, June 14, 2014 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

    Deb

    The Saudie’s are a worry. The US has been at their beck and call since Roosevelt fu#ked on his way home from the Tehran conference in 1944.

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