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		<title>Comment on Reuters Poll Trend: 55.8-44.2 by steve</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2009/07/03/reuters-poll-trend-558-442/comment-page-2/#comment-301117</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happens if News Ltd breaks a story in July or August that Springborg on behalf of the dominant National faction of the LNP challenges Langbroek as the passive Liberal faction of the LNP for Leadership of the party? Do we then get excited about news Ltd being the first with the story that one would never read on a Crikey blog?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happens if News Ltd breaks a story in July or August that Springborg on behalf of the dominant National faction of the LNP challenges Langbroek as the passive Liberal faction of the LNP for Leadership of the party? Do we then get excited about news Ltd being the first with the story that one would never read on a Crikey blog?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Reuters Poll Trend: 55.8-44.2 by Dario</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2009/07/03/reuters-poll-trend-558-442/comment-page-2/#comment-301116</link>
		<dc:creator>Dario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[I’m sorry but i’m not going to reply to such venomous posts]

Chicken</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’m sorry but i’m not going to reply to such venomous posts</p></blockquote>
<p>Chicken</p>
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		<title>Comment on Reuters Poll Trend: 55.8-44.2 by ltep</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2009/07/03/reuters-poll-trend-558-442/comment-page-2/#comment-301114</link>
		<dc:creator>ltep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[I think Crikey should cultivate that kind of journalism which would attract Ministers to give them interviews and stories.]

Actually, a blog here actually tried to do an article on the NT intervention and the Minister's office knocked them back for comment saying they don't talk to gossip websites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I think Crikey should cultivate that kind of journalism which would attract Ministers to give them interviews and stories.</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, a blog here actually tried to do an article on the NT intervention and the Minister&#8217;s office knocked them back for comment saying they don&#8217;t talk to gossip websites.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Newspoll: 56-44 to Labor in Victoria by Tom the first and best</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2009/06/30/newspoll-56-44-to-labor-in-victoria/comment-page-3/#comment-301113</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom the first and best</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There were the ads by the ALP about the Greens voting in divisions with the Liberals when the figure for the ALP was 76%.  The Greens do need to counter ALP propaganda better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There were the ads by the ALP about the Greens voting in divisions with the Liberals when the figure for the ALP was 76%.  The Greens do need to counter ALP propaganda better.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Reuters Poll Trend: 55.8-44.2 by Pica</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2009/07/03/reuters-poll-trend-558-442/comment-page-2/#comment-301112</link>
		<dc:creator>Pica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If ‘breaking’ a story is simply the act of publishing a leak (which, in so many of the political stories, it appears to be), then I suspect increasingly polllies will leak to the more well known bloggeratti and Crikey et al will ‘break’ a lot more stories (maybe we can look forward to Bilbo and Poss breaking some big ones). There is still of course the breaking of stories that comes with hard graft investigative journalism, and that typically requires resources the alt media don't yet have, but hopefully may acquire in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If ‘breaking’ a story is simply the act of publishing a leak (which, in so many of the political stories, it appears to be), then I suspect increasingly polllies will leak to the more well known bloggeratti and Crikey et al will ‘break’ a lot more stories (maybe we can look forward to Bilbo and Poss breaking some big ones). There is still of course the breaking of stories that comes with hard graft investigative journalism, and that typically requires resources the alt media don&#8217;t yet have, but hopefully may acquire in the future.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Reuters Poll Trend: 55.8-44.2 by Diogenes</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2009/07/03/reuters-poll-trend-558-442/comment-page-2/#comment-301111</link>
		<dc:creator>Diogenes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[Let’s mark this as the start of the Bloggers’ Coming Of Age.]

talkingpointsmemo won a Polk Award in the US for its journalism. They get their posters to do some of their work for them on any given topic, eg finding out what the evidence is for alcohol being a problem in indigenous communities and what possible solutions there are. 

I think Crikey should cultivate that kind of journalism which would attract Ministers to give them interviews and stories. You just need a critical mass of interested posters on any topic to prepare the groundwork to get it off the ground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Let’s mark this as the start of the Bloggers’ Coming Of Age.</p></blockquote>
<p>talkingpointsmemo won a Polk Award in the US for its journalism. They get their posters to do some of their work for them on any given topic, eg finding out what the evidence is for alcohol being a problem in indigenous communities and what possible solutions there are. </p>
<p>I think Crikey should cultivate that kind of journalism which would attract Ministers to give them interviews and stories. You just need a critical mass of interested posters on any topic to prepare the groundwork to get it off the ground.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Newspoll: 56-44 to Labor in Victoria by zoomster</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2009/06/30/newspoll-56-44-to-labor-in-victoria/comment-page-3/#comment-301110</link>
		<dc:creator>zoomster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex Campbell

you know this (and I assume you're a Greens member) but the general public doesn't and I didn't (despite the fact that the issues you refer to are ones I've been involved with in the past).

I was arguing against Tom's assertion that the Greens having members in the Upper House has raised their profile in a way which will lead to swings electorally.

It hasn't (if anything, it's been portrayed negatively).

Thanks, anyway - now I know what their names are!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex Campbell</p>
<p>you know this (and I assume you&#8217;re a Greens member) but the general public doesn&#8217;t and I didn&#8217;t (despite the fact that the issues you refer to are ones I&#8217;ve been involved with in the past).</p>
<p>I was arguing against Tom&#8217;s assertion that the Greens having members in the Upper House has raised their profile in a way which will lead to swings electorally.</p>
<p>It hasn&#8217;t (if anything, it&#8217;s been portrayed negatively).</p>
<p>Thanks, anyway - now I know what their names are!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Reuters Poll Trend: 55.8-44.2 by bob1234</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2009/07/03/reuters-poll-trend-558-442/comment-page-2/#comment-301109</link>
		<dc:creator>bob1234</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[Mate, you have NO understanding of the media coverage in QLD and trying to take Steve to task on something that he is more than well informed on, only demonstrates either your ignorance or you are back on your usual trick of baiting every other poster here to get a reaction.]

I'm sorry but i'm not going to reply to such venomous posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Mate, you have NO understanding of the media coverage in QLD and trying to take Steve to task on something that he is more than well informed on, only demonstrates either your ignorance or you are back on your usual trick of baiting every other poster here to get a reaction.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry but i&#8217;m not going to reply to such venomous posts.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Reuters Poll Trend: 55.8-44.2 by scorpio</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2009/07/03/reuters-poll-trend-558-442/comment-page-2/#comment-301108</link>
		<dc:creator>scorpio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, it  looks like the IT people at The OZ have downloaded another cookie into my computer.

This time it automatically switched from an open tab of the Australian Home Page to "Video Game Downloads".

I clicked the "back" button a couple of times and it went back to the OZ web page but before it could download fully it switched back to the "Video Game Downloads" site.

There must be some way that they can be taken to task over this blatant high-jacking.

http://www.filefront.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, it  looks like the IT people at The OZ have downloaded another cookie into my computer.</p>
<p>This time it automatically switched from an open tab of the Australian Home Page to &#8220;Video Game Downloads&#8221;.</p>
<p>I clicked the &#8220;back&#8221; button a couple of times and it went back to the OZ web page but before it could download fully it switched back to the &#8220;Video Game Downloads&#8221; site.</p>
<p>There must be some way that they can be taken to task over this blatant high-jacking.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.filefront.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.filefront.com/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Reuters Poll Trend: 55.8-44.2 by scorpio</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2009/07/03/reuters-poll-trend-558-442/comment-page-2/#comment-301107</link>
		<dc:creator>scorpio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob 1234,

[Do you think they’re the only news outlets?]

Mate, you have NO understanding of the media coverage in QLD and trying to take Steve to task on something that he is more than well informed on, only demonstrates either your ignorance or you are back on your usual trick of baiting every other poster here to get a reaction.

Just for you, I will give you a run-down on the QLD media. News Ltd publishes the "only" daily and Sunday news paper in Brisbane which feeds throughout the State outlets.

Every single Regional Newspaper is owned by the same operator and they feed off News Ltd primarily, which means that you read the same National &amp; State  "news" articles (slightly adapted sometimes) in every newspaper in the State except a handful of "free' ones. 

If that is not "control" of information and opinion, I don't know what else it could be!

The Commercial TV networks with the exception of Channel 10 sometimes, present  QLD centric News and Current Affairs Programs which means that they omit material that southern viewers get exposed to. 

This was very evident after the e-mail was exposed as a fake and 7 &amp; 9 virtually ignored the dust-up that followed with at best, a light air-brushing. Thanks to posters on PB for keeping Queenslanders up to date with what was being aired further south. 

Just further evidence of control of information in order to try and shape public opinion in a manner favourable to the Coalition or conversely, to limit damaging fall-out from adverse issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob 1234,</p>
<blockquote><p>Do you think they’re the only news outlets?</p></blockquote>
<p>Mate, you have NO understanding of the media coverage in QLD and trying to take Steve to task on something that he is more than well informed on, only demonstrates either your ignorance or you are back on your usual trick of baiting every other poster here to get a reaction.</p>
<p>Just for you, I will give you a run-down on the QLD media. News Ltd publishes the &#8220;only&#8221; daily and Sunday news paper in Brisbane which feeds throughout the State outlets.</p>
<p>Every single Regional Newspaper is owned by the same operator and they feed off News Ltd primarily, which means that you read the same National &amp; State  &#8220;news&#8221; articles (slightly adapted sometimes) in every newspaper in the State except a handful of &#8220;free&#8217; ones. </p>
<p>If that is not &#8220;control&#8221; of information and opinion, I don&#8217;t know what else it could be!</p>
<p>The Commercial TV networks with the exception of Channel 10 sometimes, present  QLD centric News and Current Affairs Programs which means that they omit material that southern viewers get exposed to. </p>
<p>This was very evident after the e-mail was exposed as a fake and 7 &amp; 9 virtually ignored the dust-up that followed with at best, a light air-brushing. Thanks to posters on PB for keeping Queenslanders up to date with what was being aired further south. </p>
<p>Just further evidence of control of information in order to try and shape public opinion in a manner favourable to the Coalition or conversely, to limit damaging fall-out from adverse issues.</p>
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