Comments on: Same Sex Marriage – Polling at odds with Parliament.

By: castle

castle — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:58:26 +0000

The American religious right was willing to support a president who destroyed their country just to avoid abortion and gay marriage, so the depths of this committment can’t be underestimated.

The religousness of the USA is overstated as it is for here. Exit polls in USA elections showed similar results as to here, infrequent church attendence, a very small minority regular church goers and an indifference to established religion.

Their power comes from the perception of being able to deliver power, which unfortunately as shown in NSW with Nile and Fielding in the Senate can be true.

Why do we accept being held to ransom by these types when we wouldn’t with other crazies.

By: banana

banana — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:43:12 +0000

Scott – it’s true that sexuality is usually not a “choice”, but I don’t think we should give into the framing that “it’s only ok if they can’t help it”. It paints glbt people as the Other, and turns it into a technical issue instead of being about bigotry.

By: Meemo Eldin

Meemo Eldin — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 03:10:11 +0000

That’s a more palatable way of putting it to the public, sure enough. But the fact is, discrimination on the basis of gender preference is also nonsense.

By: Scott

Scott — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:10:37 +0000

@Banana Quote “It’s ridiculous, in 2009, for us to discriminate against people on the basis of the gender they prefer.”

I respectively dispute that comment. You do not chose to be gay or have a preference.
Thats the argument the right wing nuts use. “Its a preference”. It’s not and I speak from experience.

By: Pro Same Sex Marriage « Lin's Selected Pieces (whoo lawd)

Pro Same Sex Marriage « Lin's Selected Pieces (whoo lawd) — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:47:35 +0000

...] http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollytics/2009/06/25/same-sex-marriage/ [...

By: Venise Alstergren

Venise Alstergren — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 07:01:33 +0000

Apologies for a somewhat frayed syntax. Time to have a glass of vino.

By: Venise Alstergren

Venise Alstergren — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 06:55:31 +0000

Digby Hughes: No prizes for guessing who your local member is?

On the surface Oz looks to be heading in the same direction as the USA: the dread hand of religion is rammed down our collective throat. It is time people asked themselves why does ‘religion’ have rights other member’s of society are denied and receives taxpayers money just because it is a ‘religion’. You, Digby, go out into the street and knock over a little old lady kill her pet dog and steal her handbag subsequently it is discovered she had forty cents in the bag. And you will be dealt with by the full force of the law and the RSPCA.
On the other hand you could try bursting into tears and say “Your honour, I am a good catholic and have been raising money for the local St Patrick’s church re-building fund. I know the old lady to be an Atheist and a cheapskate. I knew she wouldn’t give me money for St Patrick’s church re-building fund so I did what the good lord would have wanted; I took it, in your name. I killed the dog because it was being starved and beaten so I thought to put it out of its misery. It was a very quick and merciful death.I believe god would have approved of my action.
You’d be guaranteed to get off Scot-free and having heroic dimensions.

I’ve no objection to same sex marriage, but I do ask the question….Why on earth would anyone want to?

By: Digby Hughes

Digby Hughes — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:59:22 +0000

Unfortunately Altakoi is correct- but only partially – the (christian) religions have taken over the political parties – my own state MP is a case in point – looks all warm and fuzzy – but has believes in the literal interpretation of the bible -

By: Altakoi

Altakoi — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:47:59 +0000

The problem is that the pollies know that the religious objectors to gay marriage will vote on that issue alone. The American religious right was willing to support a president who destroyed their country just to avoid abortion and gay marriage, so the depths of this committment can’t be underestimated. The majority who support gay marriage, even those who are gay, won’t necessarily change their vote on this issue. And since Australian politics is really just focus groups and press releases, that is pretty much that.

By: private members bill on same-sex marriage in australia « Stringer

private members bill on same-sex marriage in australia « Stringer — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:24:48 +0000

...] it go through? who knows, but here’s some interesting stats from pollytics.com: The Galaxy poll taken on the 29-31 May 2009 asked the following [...