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		<title>By: EnergyPedant</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollytics/2009/07/09/kevinology-101/comment-page-1/#comment-13970</link>
		<dc:creator>EnergyPedant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 02:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rudd has a very well crafted image.  He seems to accept that he&#039;s a nerdy intellectual type (whom the public don&#039;t mind), but every now and then he throws in some okerisms (bit of swearing, dagewood dog, etc...).

Not being in the media I&#039;m not sure why they hate him, but maybe up close he&#039;s a complete pain in the arse.  Its possible that up close he&#039;s a driven megalomanic completely obsessed with power and holding onto it, dominating his cabinet colleagues and stifling party debate (sounds familiar doesn&#039;t it).

Part of his popularity is also because the unions don&#039;t seem to like him much (worked for Steve Bracks in Vic by being labour, but not too close to the unions), he has a very publicised work-ethic including pushing the public service hard and people feel like they know him because of his time of sunrise.

Regardless he will remain personally popular enough with the public to stay in power unless he has a gradually string of incidents that come across poorly or he gets tired and moves on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rudd has a very well crafted image.  He seems to accept that he&#8217;s a nerdy intellectual type (whom the public don&#8217;t mind), but every now and then he throws in some okerisms (bit of swearing, dagewood dog, etc&#8230;).</p>
<p>Not being in the media I&#8217;m not sure why they hate him, but maybe up close he&#8217;s a complete pain in the arse.  Its possible that up close he&#8217;s a driven megalomanic completely obsessed with power and holding onto it, dominating his cabinet colleagues and stifling party debate (sounds familiar doesn&#8217;t it).</p>
<p>Part of his popularity is also because the unions don&#8217;t seem to like him much (worked for Steve Bracks in Vic by being labour, but not too close to the unions), he has a very publicised work-ethic including pushing the public service hard and people feel like they know him because of his time of sunrise.</p>
<p>Regardless he will remain personally popular enough with the public to stay in power unless he has a gradually string of incidents that come across poorly or he gets tired and moves on.</p>
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		<title>By: David Sanderson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollytics/2009/07/09/kevinology-101/comment-page-1/#comment-13942</link>
		<dc:creator>David Sanderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 07:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rudd is an interesting contrast to Keating. Rudd makes an enormous and productive effort to discover what people want from a politician and a prime minister. The efforts he made on the Today show to mould his presentation to meet what people would expect and like is the most well-known example. 

Keating, in contrast, decided for himself what a prime minister should be like - bold, brash and aggressive - and generated a large backlash. Of course, Howard also made large efforts to mould his political persona but the &#039;traditional&#039; symbols he attached himself to became threadbare with over-use and he lacked a crucial connection to modernity and progress. Rudd&#039;s achievement is to seem both safe and modern.

The only odd-seeming element is Rudd&#039;s attachment to the word &#039;revolution&#039;. Perhaps the word has become so debased from over-use that it now means little more than safe, moderately progressive modernity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rudd is an interesting contrast to Keating. Rudd makes an enormous and productive effort to discover what people want from a politician and a prime minister. The efforts he made on the Today show to mould his presentation to meet what people would expect and like is the most well-known example. </p>
<p>Keating, in contrast, decided for himself what a prime minister should be like &#8211; bold, brash and aggressive &#8211; and generated a large backlash. Of course, Howard also made large efforts to mould his political persona but the &#8216;traditional&#8217; symbols he attached himself to became threadbare with over-use and he lacked a crucial connection to modernity and progress. Rudd&#8217;s achievement is to seem both safe and modern.</p>
<p>The only odd-seeming element is Rudd&#8217;s attachment to the word &#8216;revolution&#8217;. Perhaps the word has become so debased from over-use that it now means little more than safe, moderately progressive modernity.</p>
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		<title>By: David Sanderson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollytics/2009/07/09/kevinology-101/comment-page-1/#comment-13939</link>
		<dc:creator>David Sanderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 06:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rudd is the incarnation of orderly progress and safety first. Combine that with swift and moderately bold action to combat the GFC then you have an unbeatable combination. We are just at the beginning of a 10+ year prime ministership and the next Liberal PM is almost certainly not in the parliament.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rudd is the incarnation of orderly progress and safety first. Combine that with swift and moderately bold action to combat the GFC then you have an unbeatable combination. We are just at the beginning of a 10+ year prime ministership and the next Liberal PM is almost certainly not in the parliament.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollytics/2009/07/09/kevinology-101/comment-page-1/#comment-13925</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks like Shaun Carney has been listening to you Possum.

http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/proceed-with-calm-20090710-dfzp.html

(Although he needs to remember to reference people)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like Shaun Carney has been listening to you Possum.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/proceed-with-calm-20090710-dfzp.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/proceed-with-calm-20090710-dfzp.html</a></p>
<p>(Although he needs to remember to reference people)</p>
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		<title>By: zoomster</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollytics/2009/07/09/kevinology-101/comment-page-1/#comment-13924</link>
		<dc:creator>zoomster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter

[YHBT. YHL. HAND.]

Had to google it!!

Well, yes, but I learnt something, and it&#039;s a handy set of figures to know - not the first time this argument has arisen, and there&#039;ll be people out there who don&#039;t understand what&#039;s wrong with it.

You don&#039;t do these things to convince the troll who raised it, but for the other people reading who might believe it because they don&#039;t understand how it all works.

And I learnt something. And then you posted your modern jive and I learnt something else.

Two things in 24 hours!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter</p>
<blockquote><p>YHBT. YHL. HAND.</p></blockquote>
<p>Had to google it!!</p>
<p>Well, yes, but I learnt something, and it&#8217;s a handy set of figures to know &#8211; not the first time this argument has arisen, and there&#8217;ll be people out there who don&#8217;t understand what&#8217;s wrong with it.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t do these things to convince the troll who raised it, but for the other people reading who might believe it because they don&#8217;t understand how it all works.</p>
<p>And I learnt something. And then you posted your modern jive and I learnt something else.</p>
<p>Two things in 24 hours!!</p>
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		<title>By: Newy Stats</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollytics/2009/07/09/kevinology-101/comment-page-1/#comment-13922</link>
		<dc:creator>Newy Stats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bilbycoote you are being a moron!

If you think unemployment should be defined to = (total unemployed)/(total population)
you are either demanding children, the aged, the sick, the disabled and full-time parents should be working, or you think that some % of unemployment is fine, so what %age unemployment are you happy with???

The definition the ABS uses is sensible - the numerator is people who don&#039;t have any work but would like some and have done something to try to get work
the denominator is those people plus everyone who has work.  Thus the rate is the percentage of eligible people (the labour force) actually out of work.

The ABS also provides all the raw figures 
http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@.nsf/Lookup/6202.0Main+Features1Jun%202009?OpenDocument
if you&#039;d like to make up your own definition 
of unemployment, so next time you want to argue about numbers, do a little maths!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bilbycoote you are being a moron!</p>
<p>If you think unemployment should be defined to = (total unemployed)/(total population)<br />
you are either demanding children, the aged, the sick, the disabled and full-time parents should be working, or you think that some % of unemployment is fine, so what %age unemployment are you happy with???</p>
<p>The definition the ABS uses is sensible &#8211; the numerator is people who don&#8217;t have any work but would like some and have done something to try to get work<br />
the denominator is those people plus everyone who has work.  Thus the rate is the percentage of eligible people (the labour force) actually out of work.</p>
<p>The ABS also provides all the raw figures<br />
<a href="http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@.nsf/Lookup/6202.0Main+Features1Jun%202009?OpenDocument" rel="nofollow">http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@.nsf/Lookup/6202.0Main+Features1Jun%202009?OpenDocument</a><br />
if you&#8217;d like to make up your own definition<br />
of unemployment, so next time you want to argue about numbers, do a little maths!</p>
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		<title>By: NickD</title>
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		<dc:creator>NickD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seeing as the Liberal attempts to smear Rudd failed when he was the (very popular) leader of the opposition, why on earth did they think that they&#039;d work now given that he&#039;s not that much less popular than he was in mid-2007 and now has the gravitas of being the PM?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seeing as the Liberal attempts to smear Rudd failed when he was the (very popular) leader of the opposition, why on earth did they think that they&#8217;d work now given that he&#8217;s not that much less popular than he was in mid-2007 and now has the gravitas of being the PM?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 04:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>another great analysis possum and underlines the real reason why the opposition is doing so badly. Rudd beat Howard by accepting that he was generally liked and popular, agreeing where necessary whilst forging a few important points of policy difference. The current opposition are incapable of this and it may take a few more election losses to turn this around</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another great analysis possum and underlines the real reason why the opposition is doing so badly. Rudd beat Howard by accepting that he was generally liked and popular, agreeing where necessary whilst forging a few important points of policy difference. The current opposition are incapable of this and it may take a few more election losses to turn this around</p>
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		<title>By: Peter J. Nicol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter J. Nicol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zoomster - nice work, but I think it goes something like this:

YHBT. YHL. HAND.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zoomster &#8211; nice work, but I think it goes something like this:</p>
<p>YHBT. YHL. HAND.</p>
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		<title>By: jamesmmoylan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollytics/2009/07/09/kevinology-101/comment-page-1/#comment-13904</link>
		<dc:creator>jamesmmoylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 22:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’m more inclined to believe the public than any amount of navel gazing election analysis that speaks to the contrary.&quot;

tHEN WHAT IN HELL ARE YOU DOING PASSING YOURSELF OFF AS A jOURNO?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m more inclined to believe the public than any amount of navel gazing election analysis that speaks to the contrary.&#8221;</p>
<p>tHEN WHAT IN HELL ARE YOU DOING PASSING YOURSELF OFF AS A jOURNO?</p>
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