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Open thread 25 Feb ‘09

We love having you comment here at Pure Poison but it’s a little bit difficult for discussion to continue uninterrupted on specific posts when off-topic comments land in the middle of them. So each day we’ll launch an open thread where you can leave comments that don’t quite fit on one of the other posts. Remember that tip-offs can be made here.

Have at it!

17 Comments

  1. 1
    bertus
    Posted February 25, 2009 at 10:33 am | Permalink

    Story in today’s Hun about Swiss touring cyclist “Thomas” who was riding from Melbourne to Geelong when he was hit in the face by a full beer stubby thrown from a passing car, smashing his eye socket, nose, etc.

    In the letters attached, this is the first letter:

    “As a motorist dealing with bike riders every day, particularly around the city, this story really upsets me, I mean, what a waste of an entire stubby.

    Posted by: Sherro of Templestowe 9:14am today”

    That apparently was within the Hun’s publication guidelines. Sherro is one of the Bolturd regulars too. All class from everyone involved, eh?

    BTW, one of your early threads was *Poison Comment of the Month* and you SAID you were going to put a link to it in the sidebar. So, where’s the link already?

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    Idlaviv
    Posted February 25, 2009 at 11:06 am | Permalink

    Did everyone catch the recent Australian Story featuring Professor Ove?
    ABC online has the full global warming discussion between the Professor, Andrew Bolt and a couple of Bloody Marys…

  3. 3
    bertus
    Posted February 25, 2009 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    AMMUNITION for the next Boltspasm about Teh Greenies. The author of this article in New Scientist says that Indonesia is setting itself up for very serious bushfires, not due to any activities of Teh Greenies, but because of deforestation and population growth.

    If the coming Royal Commision grows a pair – though that’s a big IF – this is exactly what will be found about the fires here. Not much to do with the Greens or the DSE, or even inept underfunded local councils; VERY MUCH to do with deforestation, commercial logging and inappropriate land use, mostly by commercial interests (the very people some of whom are shrieking so loudly for Greeny blood over in BoltHades).

    http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16652-humans-turning-indonesian-rainforest-into-a-tinderbox.html

    Some of the comments are interesting too, though not so much the current last one from R Heap – **put down the bong and back away from the comments page Heap**

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    DBD
    Posted February 25, 2009 at 12:23 pm | Permalink

    Great find Bertus.

    I made similar comments at Bolts a few days ago, regarding the part plantation pines and blue gums played in the victorian bushfires. There is considerable evidence that private forestry plantations are not managed anywhere near as well as state forest and national parks.

    Some numbers i found from a government site suggested that national parks were 4-8 times more well managed than private plantations, and that almost three times as many fuel load reducing burns were performed last year in national parks and state forests when compared to previous years.

    It shits me that Bolt keeps on claiming that The Greens policies caused these fires, despite all the evidence that has been provided to the contrary (which, of course gets SNIPPED if posted on his Blog Of Freedom)

    He is ********** a disgrace to his profession.

    Specific allegation about Bolt edited out – Jeremy

  5. 5
    Posted February 25, 2009 at 12:27 pm | Permalink

    Might get you to tone down the personal accusations about Bolt if I could, DBD.

    Thanks.

  6. 6
    bertus
    Posted February 25, 2009 at 12:41 pm | Permalink

    Thank you DbD. Yes I read your comments over in BoltHades the other day, and the usual flannel in response.

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    DBD
    Posted February 25, 2009 at 12:50 pm | Permalink

    Sorry Scott, it wont happen again.

    Actually a couple of the posts i was irritated at having been moderated at Bolts have turned up, only 24 hours late. I guess it was something to do with the glitches they have been suffering from, not over zealous moderation after all. Oops!

    However, in my opinion Bolt is an **********!

  8. 8
    monkeywrench
    Posted February 25, 2009 at 12:51 pm | Permalink

    I eventually got a comment posted on Bolt (after Bolt had started to make his filthy mileage out of the disaster) asking his readers to check out the area from Kilmore to Kinglake to Murrindindi on Google Earth, and see how much Greenie-controlled State Forest had been the souce of such devastation. Have a look yourselves. I don’t think I got many replies, I’ll have to go back and try and find it.

  9. 9
    confessions
    Posted February 25, 2009 at 1:57 pm | Permalink

    just watching obama’s address and thinking how nice it is to once again have a US president who can speak english.

  10. 10
    Barking Gecko
    Posted February 25, 2009 at 3:44 pm | Permalink

    Just testing, because my last comment didn’t go thru?

  11. 11
    podrick
    Posted February 25, 2009 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    In general I find that Bolt will print almost anything I write in his blog even if it is only to let the Boltoids reply with a barrage of abuse that they appear to believe forms a reasoned argument. The worst News Ltd Blog for censorship I have found is Akerman’s, almost any post with a counter argument and a supporting link or quote is unlikley to be psoted. Akerman is also good at associating unrelated issues, similar to the way GWB used to use the words Iraq and al-Qaeda in the same sentence or paragraph even though they were unrelated in the context of what he said. This formed an association in the listeners and they then believe the issues are related. In Akermans Blog when the Akermanics get a hold of one of these associations, after about 50 posts it becomes gospel truth and Piers does nothing to refute it. He also has an unhealthy obsession with the Heiner shredding issue and never lets the facts get in the way of a good smear, in fact he is unlikley to print any facts that deal with the actual events surrounding this issue.

  12. 12
    returnedman
    Posted February 25, 2009 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    I think someone here needs to set the record straight on the effectiveness of solar and wind power. That old chestnut of “it takes more energy to make the solar panel than it actually produces in its lifetime” seems to be coming back again. And I love the “hur hur hur” underneath the tosspot argument of “how do you use solar energy when the sun sets/goes behind a cloud/explodes” – don’t these morons realise that less energy is used at night than during the day? A LOT LESS?

  13. 13
    silkworm
    Posted February 25, 2009 at 5:47 pm | Permalink

    Confessions, I read that joke this morning on The Smirking Chimp.

  14. 14
    Barking Gecko
    Posted February 25, 2009 at 5:49 pm | Permalink

    “The worst News Ltd Blog for censorship I have found is Akerman’s, almost any post with a counter argument and a supporting link or quote is unlikley to be psoted.”

    Podrick: I am basically a conservative, although one who believe in gay rights and legal abortion (preferably only in the first trimester though) and who oposes capital punishment. And I, like you, cannot bear Piers Akerman. In fact I find his blog and columns excruciating. In addition to his writing, I detest the way he bullies (via personal responses to their comments) anyone on his blog who expresses opinions which do not mesh with his ideological mind-set.

    I like to read blogs where I am exposed to a wide spectrum of ideas and beliefs because even when I don’t happen to agree with them, nobody can argue that for many issues there are valid arguments from both “the left” and “the right.” I have learned things from people on “the left,” and there are a great number of them I’d be happy to sit down and have a beer and a chat with. In fact there are at least 5 “leftists” or “centre-leftists” from blog-world I’d be more likely to invite to a BBQ at my house than that one-eyed broken-record one-trick-pony Piers.

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    wah
    Posted February 25, 2009 at 7:26 pm | Permalink

    Might get you to tone down the personal accusations about Bolt if I could

    That’s my comment stuffed!

  16. 16
    confessions
    Posted February 25, 2009 at 8:28 pm | Permalink

    “Confessions, I read that joke this morning on The Smirking Chimp.”

    i suppose i never really believed i was the only person who remembered what life was like before we had to endure bastardised english, or Bushlish.

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    Gibbot
    Posted February 25, 2009 at 8:36 pm | Permalink

    Akerman is too slow to hunt. It’s like spearing a beached whale.

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