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	<title>Comments on: Fantasies indulged</title>
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		<title>By: RobJ</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/purepoison/2009/06/28/fantasies-indulged/comment-page-1/#comment-8784</link>
		<dc:creator>RobJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;and the ABC sees him fit to be considered an Insider worthy of giving analysis on the events of the day.&quot;


I know, I wish the ABC would disregard the bullshit acusations of bias from renowned hypocrites!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;and the ABC sees him fit to be considered an Insider worthy of giving analysis on the events of the day.&#8221;</p>
<p>I know, I wish the ABC would disregard the bullshit acusations of bias from renowned hypocrites!</p>
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		<title>By: Compare and contrast - Pure Poison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Compare and contrast - Pure Poison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Piers Akerman: Those who claim utegate or mategate has cut off Opposition leader Malcolm Turnbull at the knees are indulging their fantasies. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>...] Piers Akerman: Those who claim utegate or mategate has cut off Opposition leader Malcolm Turnbull at the knees are indulging their fantasies. [...</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Lloyd McDonald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lloyd McDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 3 polls out today put an end to that fantasy.   What I find interesting is that any newspaper would continue to publish a political commentator who is consistently wrong on just about everything he writes, month after month, year after year and the ABC sees him fit to be considered an Insider worthy of giving analysis on the events of the day.

Extraordinary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 3 polls out today put an end to that fantasy.   What I find interesting is that any newspaper would continue to publish a political commentator who is consistently wrong on just about everything he writes, month after month, year after year and the ABC sees him fit to be considered an Insider worthy of giving analysis on the events of the day.</p>
<p>Extraordinary.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter J. Nicol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter J. Nicol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the triple whammy polling has left Pies looking predictably and typically foolish...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the triple whammy polling has left Pies looking predictably and typically foolish&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: nickws</title>
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		<dc:creator>nickws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Word, Bertus.

This is going to be a least as bad for the Tories as the AWB scandal was (though bad in a different, less-foreign-corruption-&amp;-intrigue way).

And they&#039;re in Opposition, it&#039;s not like they have any executive responsibility from whence this shitstorm has arisen!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Word, Bertus.</p>
<p>This is going to be a least as bad for the Tories as the AWB scandal was (though bad in a different, less-foreign-corruption-&amp;-intrigue way).</p>
<p>And they&#8217;re in Opposition, it&#8217;s not like they have any executive responsibility from whence this shitstorm has arisen!</p>
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		<title>By: Erik R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it hard to imagine what Piers is trying to prove with these articles. I don&#039;t think he really believes it - its purely and simply Liberal party propaganda designed as some sort of indoctrination tool. Say it often enough and people will believe it.

But this is so laughable only a hard core conservative could possibly go along with it. So why, why write this rubbish? To stir up left wingers and score a few points? Its just making him look foolish - and nobody angry.

Can anyone tell me what&#039;s going on in his head?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it hard to imagine what Piers is trying to prove with these articles. I don&#8217;t think he really believes it &#8211; its purely and simply Liberal party propaganda designed as some sort of indoctrination tool. Say it often enough and people will believe it.</p>
<p>But this is so laughable only a hard core conservative could possibly go along with it. So why, why write this rubbish? To stir up left wingers and score a few points? Its just making him look foolish &#8211; and nobody angry.</p>
<p>Can anyone tell me what&#8217;s going on in his head?</p>
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		<title>By: StephenD</title>
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		<dc:creator>StephenD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Mad Monk clearly hadn&#039;t read the script from Piers before going on Insiders today.  Come to think of it, any sort of script might have helped him.  As someone who always looks uncomfortable on camera, he truly surpassed himself.  I don&#039;t think he finished a single sentence without half a dozen pauses to consider the holes he might be digging for himself.  And this with Barrie trying his hardest to throw him sitters.

Anyway...  Timmeh was as poisonous as ever...  What bugs me about him is that he&#039;s obviously intelligent, but he&#039;s quite prepared to push the same garbage as the rest of them.

Now linking this to the actual subject...  I can&#039;t decide whether &lt;i&gt;{Piers -- Scott}&lt;/i&gt; is serious (and therefore has a terrible cognitive deficit or delusion), in denial or just blustering.  When even the members of the Opposition can&#039;t bring themselves to defend their attempt on the PM, what DOES the man think he&#039;s doing?  Perhaps he seeks to reassure his brainless, poisonous toadling followers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Mad Monk clearly hadn&#8217;t read the script from Piers before going on Insiders today.  Come to think of it, any sort of script might have helped him.  As someone who always looks uncomfortable on camera, he truly surpassed himself.  I don&#8217;t think he finished a single sentence without half a dozen pauses to consider the holes he might be digging for himself.  And this with Barrie trying his hardest to throw him sitters.</p>
<p>Anyway&#8230;  Timmeh was as poisonous as ever&#8230;  What bugs me about him is that he&#8217;s obviously intelligent, but he&#8217;s quite prepared to push the same garbage as the rest of them.</p>
<p>Now linking this to the actual subject&#8230;  I can&#8217;t decide whether <i>{Piers &#8212; Scott}</i> is serious (and therefore has a terrible cognitive deficit or delusion), in denial or just blustering.  When even the members of the Opposition can&#8217;t bring themselves to defend their attempt on the PM, what DOES the man think he&#8217;s doing?  Perhaps he seeks to reassure his brainless, poisonous toadling followers?</p>
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		<title>By: HegemonyOrBust</title>
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		<dc:creator>HegemonyOrBust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 08:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved Tony Abbot on Insiders this morning. It&#039;s pretty obvious that he&#039;s stuck between defending Malcy and trying not to get too dragged into it, so as not to hurt his own leadership ambitions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved Tony Abbot on Insiders this morning. It&#8217;s pretty obvious that he&#8217;s stuck between defending Malcy and trying not to get too dragged into it, so as not to hurt his own leadership ambitions.</p>
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		<title>By: HegemonyOrBust</title>
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		<dc:creator>HegemonyOrBust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 08:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Piers should sign off on his columns as &quot;Liberal Stooge&quot;. Surely he&#039;s breaking a pact with the public by not disclosing his feeling for the Liberals. I can&#039;t remember another columnist on the left who is so blatantly biased but tries to pass off as objective. Usually the columnists on the left will criticise the Labor party when it&#039;s something they don&#039;t agree with.

&lt;i&gt;{Man, not ball -- Scott}&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Piers should sign off on his columns as &#8220;Liberal Stooge&#8221;. Surely he&#8217;s breaking a pact with the public by not disclosing his feeling for the Liberals. I can&#8217;t remember another columnist on the left who is so blatantly biased but tries to pass off as objective. Usually the columnists on the left will criticise the Labor party when it&#8217;s something they don&#8217;t agree with.</p>
<p><i>{Man, not ball &#8212; Scott}</i></p>
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		<title>By: confessions</title>
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		<dc:creator>confessions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 08:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bertus @ 5: they have no bargaining chips now that everyone knows the thing they want the least is to hand any double dissolution triggers to the government.  technically the government can call their bluff, say &quot;this is our best offer, vote on it&quot; (which they will have to on Aug 13), if they vote no the government can re-introduce the legislation on Nov 16 when the senate sits before xmas (3 months after the first rejection), and.....well, you know the rest.

The coalition is stuffed basically insofar as gaining any major changes to the CPRS bill is concerned. To thank for that they can look at the flat-earthers in the Libs and National party for their role in the coalition failing to deal itself into play from the outset by parrodying bolt and blair on AGW, and Turnbull himself for poor leadership and poor strategic ability when it comes to negotiating on legislative agenda - most likely a result of his political inexperience. Xenophon has shown more nous than the coalition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bertus @ 5: they have no bargaining chips now that everyone knows the thing they want the least is to hand any double dissolution triggers to the government.  technically the government can call their bluff, say &#8220;this is our best offer, vote on it&#8221; (which they will have to on Aug 13), if they vote no the government can re-introduce the legislation on Nov 16 when the senate sits before xmas (3 months after the first rejection), and&#8230;..well, you know the rest.</p>
<p>The coalition is stuffed basically insofar as gaining any major changes to the CPRS bill is concerned. To thank for that they can look at the flat-earthers in the Libs and National party for their role in the coalition failing to deal itself into play from the outset by parrodying bolt and blair on AGW, and Turnbull himself for poor leadership and poor strategic ability when it comes to negotiating on legislative agenda &#8211; most likely a result of his political inexperience. Xenophon has shown more nous than the coalition.</p>
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