Intellectual dishonesty is pure poison – A Crikey weblog

Open thread – March 14 – 18

   

So, Tony Abbott’s people’s revolt seems to have gotten off to a slow start, being outnumbered by 20 to 1 by a bunch of tax loving hippies. Could it be possible that talkback radio callers opinions aren’t representative of the national mood?

While I let you digest that frightening thought, here’s one just as scary: What would happen to Ferris Bueller’s Day Off if John Hughes had been making films today amongst the indie, hipster crowd?
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Update: A few weeks ago Tammi Jonas wrote a guest post for us about the earthquake coverage in Christchurch, as a result of that Radio 2SER invited Tammi to discuss the issue with them and you can now listen to the interview.

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  1. 101
    Cuppa
    Posted March 17, 2011 at 6:35 pm | Permalink

    Mr Abbott is better equipped than most of his parliamentary colleagues and foes: blessed with an excellent brain; years of reading, reflection and debate on the major domestic and international issues; and strong oratorical skills. On a good day, Mr Abbott can hold his own with the best leaders around the globe. Not for him the programmatic rendition of official departmental "talking points" that form the utterances of so many politicians.

    that’s gotta be satire. Well-read, strong oratical skills, international statesman calibre? Crikey doesn’t provide enough ROFL emoticons to respond to that!

  2. 102
    Cuppa
    Posted March 17, 2011 at 6:36 pm | Permalink

    As for your bloke Mr. Costello.....don't you get the feeling that there are just so many issues that escape him? He rants about boats so much I get the impression that he'd be better placed to join the Coast Guard; he might even having a shot at running that. Perhaps even the Navy with his obvious Maritime obsession. But seriously there are so many important and complex issues in our country that poor old Rasputin really hasn't got a hope of grasping even the top ten. Instead he sticks to what he knows.....mindless, babbling, xenophobic, flat earth nonsense that comes across as if from a precocious yet misguided 13 year old who thinks Complexity is perhaps a shopping mall he hasn't yet campaigned in.
    Jesse | North Sydney - March 16, 2011, 9:49PM

    http://www.nationaltimes.com.au/opinion/politics/colourful-slogans-are-not-a-guide-to-international-affairs-20110315-1bvun.html?comments=162#comments

  3. 103
    marylew
    Posted March 17, 2011 at 6:38 pm | Permalink

    Correction to my post at 98.

    The accident was on the Oxley Hwy to the West of the Pacific Hwy.

  4. 104
    Angra
    Posted March 17, 2011 at 7:22 pm | Permalink

    Has Bolty been scared off reporting the Fukushima incident (biggest news in the world right now)?

    His most recent threads –

    I wouldn’t have bought Green’s excuse

    Is Gillard’s centre in East Timor ready yet?

    Gillard’s global warming speech: count the deceits

    Whose tax is this anyway?

    Garnaut: use carbon tax to redistribute wealth

    Plus a homo-0erotice picture of a yopun don Dunstan.

    And then –

    Gillard deceives again: I am not alone

    Gillard will hurt you more than’s she’s admitting

    Before the pro-nuclear guff, and ‘Hiroshima wan’t so bad’

    Methinks his colleagues have got to him and he has fallen back on the “Gillard is Satan” meme.

  5. 105
    Angra
    Posted March 17, 2011 at 7:25 pm | Permalink

    Sorry – finger trouble, meant ‘Plus a homo-erotic picture of a young Don Dunstan. ‘

    Is this meaningful?

  6. 106
    confessions
    Posted March 17, 2011 at 7:26 pm | Permalink

    MoC:

    If you want to see hateful rhethoric, look no further than the Liberal party-aligned Menzies House blog. These comments stuck out for me:

    gillard drastically needs to imoprove her image...

    a bullet between the ears should do the trick.

    Why does JEWLIAR want to take it up the glory hole from homo Bob when I'd do it to her for free??

    And these comments are still there long after a moderator popped up to take issue with another commenter. Liberals are certainly hypocrites.

    http://www.menzieshouse.com.au/2011/03/julia-unfriends-bob-brown.html?cid=6a012876778d82970c014e86c63a32970d#comment-6a012876778d82970c014e86c63a32970d

  7. 107
    Matthew of Canberra
    Posted March 17, 2011 at 7:58 pm | Permalink

    Angra @100

    “This is a disgraceful truth about some Australian men.”

    Australian men? I dare to suggest the ratio of kiddy fiddlers here is probably no worse than anywhere else. The difference is that here it’s actually illegal (vs, say, afghanistan) and here they actually investigate accusations (vs, oh, any number of places I won’t mention).

    But good work if they get some creeps out of circulation.

  8. 108
    Matthew of Canberra
    Posted March 17, 2011 at 8:01 pm | Permalink

    marylew:

    “I anyone wants to see the real effect of ratbag talkback radio and Abbott’s pandering to the morons, I present exhibit A.”

    I’d hold off and wait for some sort of investigation to take place (and I’m fairly sure it will – at the very least, insurance companies will be wanting to know whose pound of flesh to take)

    So far it COULD be just a really badly maintained vehicle. But if somebody sticks those wires under a microscope and decides that they really were cut recently, then by all means go ballistic.

  9. 109
    Angra
    Posted March 17, 2011 at 8:11 pm | Permalink

    MoC – this is true. I was offered one such and referred it to the police and nearly ended up in a fight with the bloke (pimp) concerned – not to be taken lightly in PNG (not that I have much trust in the PNG police).

  10. 110
    Angra
    Posted March 17, 2011 at 8:25 pm | Permalink

    MoC – it happens. Luckily I had some of my family to protect me. One of my Aunties (known as a strong woman) bashed a rascol and stood up to them. We escaped in a taxi. I just shouted a lot.

    She should be on World Wrestling.

  11. 111
    returnedman
    Posted March 18, 2011 at 11:00 am | Permalink

    Angra et al

    I think you’ll find the original comment was along the lines of:

    But soil fertility cannot be maintained in any ecosystem, natural or artificial, without plants AND animals living and dying in it.

    ie if you’re a vegetarian / vegan you’re saying that animals have no place in ecosystems. Funnily enough, I can’t find where I asserted such a thing.

    I think you’ll find that vegans / vegos have nothing against animals being there. That’s why they don’t eat them.

  12. 112
    Duncan
    Posted March 18, 2011 at 3:19 pm | Permalink

    RM @ 111

    “Apparently the Amazon is pretty productive.”

    LOL! What Angra said.

    “ie if you’re a vegetarian / vegan you’re saying that animals have no place in ecosystems. Funnily enough, I can’t find where I asserted such a thing.”

    You asserted, in a discussion about energy, that the problem could be solved if we all moved to a meat free diet. (i assume you also meant other intensively produced animal products too, like eggs and milk)

    If we don’t eat meat and animal products, then these animals will not be farmed. If they are not farmed, the animal component of the artifical ecosystem that is a farm will be absent, resulting in a broken nutrient cycle and serious loss of diversity.

    Its pretty simple, unless you think farmers keep all those cows and sheep to keep the grass down, or for rural ambience.

    “I think you’ll find that vegans / vegos have nothing against animals being there. That’s why they don’t eat them.”

    You do understand that farms are places of buisness don’t you? What possible reason would a farmer have to include animals in his venture if there was no market for his product?

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