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Australia Day 2012

   


Modern teenagers laughing at the stupid outfits worn by previous generations

Just in case there are any absurd media beatups on the subject – filthy leftist journalists questioning whether there’s much sense in being “proud” of being lucky enough to be born in a fortunate country, for example – here’s a thread to discuss them.

36 Comments

  1. 1
    Matthew of Canberra
    Posted January 26, 2012 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    Straya Day!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4AchHTN-XQ

    (Warning – language. Lots, and lots of language)

  2. 2
    Matthew of Canberra
    Posted January 26, 2012 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

    Oh, now appropriate

    http://www.cracked.com/article_19036_too-stupid-satire-how-media-branded-me-as-racist.html

  3. 3
    shepherdmarilyn
    Posted January 26, 2012 at 3:26 pm | Permalink

    It makes me want to puke – none of this carry on was done when I was a kid and it should not be happening now.

  4. 4
    SHV
    Posted January 26, 2012 at 4:38 pm | Permalink

    “PM caught in violent protest”. “PM tackled by protesters”.

    A lie gets half way around the world before the truth even has its shoes on.

    In fact the only violence was the security detail making a passage for Abbott and Gillard through the crowd. News appears to be the first to invent the “tackled” factoid whereupon it was lapped up and regurgitated by ch7, 9, ABC and Fairfax. Conveniently fits in with Abbott’s statement earlier that the tent embassy should pack up.

    Until about 2:30 AEDST the media had largely ignored the thousands of people peacefully celebrating the tent embassy’s 40th anniversary.

    The racism and hate is flowing freely now. Nice work News Ltd.

  5. 5
    shepherdmarilyn
    Posted January 26, 2012 at 7:21 pm | Permalink

    Yeah, and the media are still prattling on and on about fucking “boat policy deals’ as if the high court has not spoken, as if Navi Pillay, the UNHCR and our own Human rights commissioner have not all said ‘ IT’S FUCKING ILLEGAL TO PUSH AWAY REFUGEES”.

    What a country, no-one was going to hurt those two racist bogan dickheads, they are not interesting or worthy.

  6. 6
    AR
    Posted January 26, 2012 at 7:33 pm | Permalink

    The Prime Minister has now decried this lie but when did truth, fact or relaity ever intrude on a Mudorc theme? Or Their ABC, as late as the wind up on the ABC 7pm news, it was stiull be ing stated that “the POM had to be bundled away from protestors”.
    Not what the PM said, not what the vision showed, not as shown by the number of arrests IE NONE AT ALL!
    But expect the shoutjocks to go apeshit tomorrow, confecting and fabricating for all the ratings and rage they can garner.

  7. 7
    Angra
    Posted January 26, 2012 at 8:24 pm | Permalink

    So what to people think about the blatant display of nationalism by the prominence of Australian flags?

    Some commentators appear to think this is next to fascism,

    Other’s think it is tantamount to treason to comment on this (the usual suspects).

    I have no problem with the flag being displayed, but recognise that any symbol can be hijacked by certain interests to promote their agenda.

    I have a discreet small one.

    :)

  8. 8
    monkeywrench
    Posted January 26, 2012 at 10:03 pm | Permalink

    I have a discreet small one.

    So did James Dean, apparently.

  9. 9
    Matthew of Canberra
    Posted January 26, 2012 at 10:07 pm | Permalink

    This one just goes out to our nation’s leaders at this time of difficulty …

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQVk6LrJCBM

    Saw them back in about 92. An incredible live band. I’m absolutely certain that the building was physically leaving its foundations.

  10. 10
    Matthew of Canberra
    Posted January 26, 2012 at 10:09 pm | Permalink

    “Conveniently fits in with Abbott’s statement earlier that the tent embassy should pack up”

    See if you can find that detail on andrew bolt’s coverage anywhere.

  11. 11
    Matthew of Canberra
    Posted January 26, 2012 at 10:18 pm | Permalink

    “So what to people think about the blatant display of nationalism by the prominence of Australian flags?”

    The problem isn’t the display of the flag. That isn’t, IMHO, inherently chauvinistic or nationalistic. There’s a ruddy great big one waggling over parliament house, and it’s completely appropriate. I see no problem with flags in front of buildings. My primary school had a flag pole, and there was a roster for putting it up and bringing it in again (public school, adelaide). I think my first high school did as well, can’t be sure.

    I also don’t have any particular problem with flags waved/tattoed/worn in celebration. It’s people being happy – that’s great stuff.

    My only concern is when our flag is smeared by association with a racist message. When it’s not used to say “hey, we’re australia”, but “hey – we’re not THOSE guys”. I can also sometimes seem like it’s a prop to puff up groups of people who are otherwise feeling a bit insecure. That’s unfortunate.

    In short … It’s a perfectly good flag, but there can be something wrong with what it’s used to say.

  12. 12
    Matthew of Canberra
    Posted January 26, 2012 at 10:20 pm | Permalink

    Those pictures on the herald sun suggest a certain melodramatic ridiculousness to the whole affair.

  13. 13
    Brown Bob
    Posted January 26, 2012 at 10:20 pm | Permalink

    “In fact the only violence was the security detail making a passage for Abbott and Gillard through the crowd.”

    Well I guess that depends if you consider someone banging on your car and chasing it down the road as “violence”. No doubt you’d be calling the cops if it happened to you. For some reason peace loving lefties always ignore or rationalise violence from their side. Not protestors, but a pack of redneck bogans that don’t know how to behave if you ask me…..

  14. 14
    Matthew of Canberra
    Posted January 26, 2012 at 10:22 pm | Permalink

    “I have a discreet small one.”

    Ooh, you can tell us … where is it?

  15. 15
    Cuppa
    Posted January 26, 2012 at 10:46 pm | Permalink

    Their ABC labels Gillard “Coward”

    http://awesomescreenshot.com/085suek06

  16. 16
    confessions
    Posted January 26, 2012 at 10:56 pm | Permalink

    As the PM is being evacuated, the ABC post a photograph of it to their website with the caption ‘Coward’ attached.
    http://awesomescreenshot.com/085suek06

    Utterly appalling, and hard to imagine them doing the same to male PM/political leader.

  17. 17
    Jack Sparraaggghhh
    Posted January 27, 2012 at 12:37 am | Permalink

    Randi Devine, ‘discussing’ (yes, I think that’s the word) a study which found a correlation between flag wavers and racist sentiments, has come up with another killer pun of a headline:

    Nation’s tolerance for this nonsense is flagging

    What a WIT!

    Randi’s summation of Professor Farida Fozdar’s research is boilerplate murdochian bile.

    The flag which represents one of the world’s most successful immigrant countries may contain a message of racism and exclusion, at least when it’s attached to a car…

    Then there’s the obligatory murdochian profiling…

    Fozdar, who has written about growing up an Indian-American-Bruneian Bahai in multicultural Australia, has collected almost $2 million in grants over nine years.

    Yep, and we all know where academic grant monies end up, don’t we? — directly into the pockets of academics !!1!!!

    Randi goes on to ‘discuss’ Fozdar’s “other topics”, climaxing with…

    Then there is this: Sperm milkshakes with poo sprinkles. You don’t need a vox pop to know what taxpayers would think.

    A fucking vox pop, Randi??? You’re a journo? How about some actual background, huh?

    The full title turns out to be: “Sperm milkshakes with poo sprinkles”: the challenges of identifying family meals practices through an on-line survey with adolescents.

    A synopsis describes the work thus:

    This article contributes to a long-overdue discussion about research with adolescents. While young people are now recognised as competent and reliable participants, there are particular difficulties associated with using adolescents as respondents. Furthermore, it is rare for young people’s reactions to the research process to be heard. This article reports on some of the methodological challenges faced in designing and administering a Web-based survey to 15-year-old school students in Perth, Western Australia, in an attempt to gain insight into meals practices and beliefs among adolescents and their families. Using empirical data, we discuss issues concerning the competence of adolescents to participate in social research. We conclude that using a Web-based survey actively facilitates high levels of adolescent engagement in the research process, allowing them to be both subject and object of the research.

    I don’t have time to read the whole thing, but I’m guessing the deliberately confronting title “Sperm milkshakes with poo sprinkles” is probably based on actual responses to online surveys by shockingly unsupervised adolescents.

    It’s possible Randi Trolltweeps might even learn something from reading the work of Fozdar et al, but you wouldn’t hold your breath.

  18. 18
    Jaeger
    Posted January 27, 2012 at 12:51 am | Permalink

    Angra,

    It’s ironic that so-called Aussie “nationalism” means parroting what the Yanks did ten years ago post-11 Sep 2001 (i.e. stick [Made in China?] flags on cars etc. to prove you aren’t ONE OF THEM.)

    I guess there is some hope that flags seem to be in the minority compared to the equally inane “My Family” stickers (http://www.oddee.com/item_98008.aspx)

  19. 19
    SHV
    Posted January 27, 2012 at 2:22 am | Permalink

    Anyone got links to the evidence (video, pics) showing “violence” on the car? I heard that someone threw a plastic bottle at it as it was driving away, but the “banging on the bonnet” thing seems to be a News Ltd/Trolls Inc. fabrication.

    Of Course, given that they have a long history of lying, I’ll believe it only when I see the irrefutible proof. Until then I will assume they are just lying, again.

    How do they have the time to do that with hacking dead children’s phones, going through people’s rubbish, hacking emails, hopping in bed with fossil-fuel companies, selling their neo-con ideology, publishing very important pictures of young girl’s breasts, warning us about pedophiles and all their other jobs?

  20. 20
    Brown Bob
    Posted January 27, 2012 at 3:35 am | Permalink

    Comments 15/16

    Actually if you had bothered linking to the related ABC story from that picture (which in fact is headed Gillard puts on a brave face…), it has a sub-heading that says “Gillard labelled a coward”, and goes on to say that one of the hooligans called her a coward. Not the ABC calling her a coward at all. (Unless of course “awesomescreenshot.com” is some mystery branch of the ABC). In fact it defies logic that you’d just take it for granted that a mainstream media organisation would accuse a woman of cowardice (when she’s being dragged off her feet to get away from a group of rabid protesters) without even checking for yourself. Don’t let the truth get in the way of an opportunity to whine about the media LOL.

  21. 21
    gtpfb13
    Posted January 27, 2012 at 9:03 am | Permalink

    In Bizzaro World, it seems it’s OK to quote what every news service was initially saying and in fact, what the protesters were telling journalists they’d heard, so you can use it as yet another example of the “blame Abbott” vendetta by Teh Evil Left!!!!!

    Column – No more of this “reconciliation”
    Andrew Bolt – Friday, January 27, 12 (06:03 am)

    Why did the Prime Minister have to run for her life? Why all this fury? Protesters yesterday blamed Tony Abbott – but of course. He’d said the tent embassy perhaps should move on since a lot has changed for the better since it was set up – a perfectly rational opinion that any citizen should be free to express without needing police protection.

    But then, in an update to a column, originally posted 6 minutes later, you can use the same (incorrect) paraphrasing to attack The Age:

    So who to blame this time for the “climate of hate”?
    Andrew Bolt – Friday, January 27, 12 (06:09 am)

    UPDATE

    The Age actually verbals Tony Abbott to make him look guilty:

    The protest was sparked by comments made by Mr Abbott about ‘’moving on’’ the Aboriginal tent embassy…

    In fact, Abbott said it was time to more on (sic) from the embassy, not move the embassy:

    ‘’I think the indigenous people of Australia can be very proud of the respect in which they are held by every Australian and, yes, I think a lot has changed since then and I think it probably is time to move on from that.’’

    Disgraceful spinning.

    Couldn’t agree more Andy, truly disgraceful spinning.

  22. 22
    Matthew of Canberra
    Posted January 27, 2012 at 9:15 am | Permalink

    J @18

    “the equally inane “My Family” stickers”

    There’s one missing from that page – one of the cheezeburger blogs had a shot of one with a psycho-happy stick figure with an axe and the tag “I will KILL your FAMILY!”. It was very well done.

    My secret shame: I actually really like those stickers. It’s probably just the way my brain is wired up – the cheezeburger sites cause my brain to produce awesome happy chemicals. I grin at babies. I talk to animals (birds especially). I nab kittens right off the street and take them home with me. So there’s a prima facie case that there’s probably something wrong with me. And I really like those stickers. If I’m walking, I’ll actually stop and pay attention to which sort of cat or dog they’ve got and whether that’s a bird or a goldfish. Can’t help it. :-)

  23. 23
    Archer
    Posted January 27, 2012 at 9:43 am | Permalink

    SHV @19

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo9BPqIols8&feature=related

    It’s only a mainstream news report however, it shows the protestors holding hands, singing Kumbaya, and attending a restaurant for a civilized meal. The day ends with the inspection of a shoe, a hunter gatherer thing perhaps.

    What was the mans excuse for attacking the restaurant?
    “Well what were we supposed to do when we’re 200m away and what Tony Abbott said.”

    Perfectly legitimate excuse for inciting a riot, don’t think?

  24. 24
    Cuppa
    Posted January 27, 2012 at 10:14 am | Permalink

    Actually if you had bothered linking to the related ABC story from that picture (which in fact is headed Gillard puts on a brave face…), it has a sub-heading that says “Gillard labelled a coward”, and goes on to say that one of the hooligans called her a coward. Not the ABC calling her a coward at all. (Unless of course “awesomescreenshot.com” is some mystery branch of the ABC). In fact it defies logic that you’d just take it for granted that a mainstream media organisation would accuse a woman of cowardice (when she’s being dragged off her feet to get away from a group of rabid protesters) without even checking for yourself. Don’t let the truth get in the way of an opportunity to whine about the media LOL.

    OMG, Did you click on the link that Confessions and I provided? Go ahead and do it, genius, then come back and tell us what the subheading says.

    Thier ABC have obviously ‘amended’ the subheading so it reads differently NOW. You’re talking about the amended version. But that is not the point. (Gee, funny that you should miss the point, eh)

    … Oh, and don’t let the truth get in the way of a slew of spin defending right-wing media.

  25. 25
    SHV
    Posted January 27, 2012 at 11:35 am | Permalink

    Anyone wanting to save themselves 2:55 don’t bother with that youtube link above.

    It shows no “banging on the bonnet”. In fact, it shows the cars driving off without any contact at all. So it actually proves the opposite of what I thought it was supposed to prove. And even though I had heard that a plastic bottle was thrown, it didn’t show that either.

    The video on fairfax (Brisbane times, at least) showed 3 seperate incidents of police punching people in the face (at 0:15, 0:41 and 0:42) apparently unnecessarily and without reason.

  26. 26
    Matthew of Canberra
    Posted January 28, 2012 at 11:55 am | Permalink

    These people are frikkin’ nuts.

    Google “Secret past of Greens senator Lee Rhiannon”

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/features/secret-past-of-greens-senator-lee-rhiannon/story-e6frg6z6-1226255689458

    Guys … there is no soviet union. It’s gone. Yes, a lot of people sympathised with it. A lot of people had no idea, even in the 70′s, that it was a hell-hole. A lot of people deluded themselves.

    But it all sort of ended about 20 years ago now. Is this REALLY the most important information you’ve got about a senator today? Opinions from unnamed, retired ASIO officers? This is particularly newsworthy:

    “But former ASIO officers say there can be no doubt that the Soviets saw the young Rhiannon as an important potential agent of influence worthy of special attention — and cultivation”

    Far out. These guys are geniuses. I’m glad our nation’s security is in the hands of people who can use them to find their own behind. The soviet union had designs on a young leftist from a leftist family. My god. What next.

    I would personally love to see some sort of hard evidence against Lee Rhiannon[1]. That would make for some fantastic reading. But you guys don’t actually seem to have any. You just keep posing carefully-weaseled hypotheticals that amount to not very much. Yes, we know her parents were into some dodgy stuff. More bad to them. But seriously, if you’re going to keep relying on this half-scary “file” material … my advice is to start making things up instead, because your plot is going nowhere fast.

    Disclaimer: I have no link to rhiannon. For the most part, I don’t care. I’m not a green. I am not, and never have been a member of any political party of any sort. I don’t believe I have an ASIO file. But mostly, this whole weasley crap non-story about lee rhiannon just @#%!s me. Tom clancy writes better that this, and I’m even counting “rainbow six” in that category. You guys don’t like her, we get that. You’re clearly still working out decades-old grudges, I get that. But please, until you’ve got something to say … we’re all sick of hearing it. You’ve got nothing, admit it.

    [1] with, of course, the obligatory ‘nee Brown’

  27. 27
    Jack Sparraaggghhh
    Posted January 28, 2012 at 1:51 pm | Permalink

    Gerard Henderson almost serialised his red-hunt against Rhiannon for months and months in his (misnamed) Media Watch Dog. Looks like it’s gone mainstream.

    It will have some currency for a while among cold war nostalgists and your common-or-garden green bashers, then it will go the desultory way of the Manning Clark agent-of-influence ‘scandal’. Certain trollumnists will, of course, harp on about how this “reflects on the Greens-leadership aspirant’s political judgement and even her patriotism, etc.”

    Anyway, if the old USSR was a “hell hole”, what does that say about what it has become today? — what with many ordinary Russians hankering for the good old days before the ascendancy of the current kleptocracy. Apparently pensioners freezing to death in the streets and the slaying of dissident journalists is meant to be a comparative utopia.

  28. 28
    Matthew of Canberra
    Posted January 28, 2012 at 2:44 pm | Permalink

    “what with many ordinary Russians hankering for the good old days before the ascendancy of the current kleptocracy”

    I know. It’s weird, isn’t it?

  29. 29
    Matthew of Canberra
    Posted January 29, 2012 at 11:03 am | Permalink

    Ok, back to normal programming. This will melt your brain:

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/kids-getting-away-with-serious-crimes-including-rape-and-arson/story-fn7x8me2-1226256267191

    For extra WTF, read the comments. I’ve been shaking my head in disbelief for a couple of minutes, now.

  30. 30
    Matthew of Canberra
    Posted January 29, 2012 at 11:17 am | Permalink

    Andy seems to have decided that he can single-handedly bring down the government by tuesday.

    I recommend checking out the latest “updates”, but first people should watch this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1QI4P0YqtM

    Replace “defense” with “attack”. It’s everything you need to know about andrew’s entire output for this weekend.

  31. 31
    Matthew of Canberra
    Posted January 29, 2012 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    zOMG. This is brilliant

    “Australia Day 2012: “Barbie Girl” (Sam Kekovich v Melissa Tkautz v Justice Crew)”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k81_KP56oL0

  32. 32
    Matthew of Canberra
    Posted January 29, 2012 at 11:25 am | Permalink

    I hope these are actually paying off, coz I want them to keep making them

    “Australia Day 2011: Lambassador Sam Kekovich takes on Europe”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C89osd7Eic

  33. 33
    Matthew of Canberra
    Posted January 29, 2012 at 11:36 am | Permalink

    No … way. Can this be real?

    “whale safe beer”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbRoCFlNfkQ

  34. 34
    monkeywrench
    Posted January 29, 2012 at 12:01 pm | Permalink

    Media Spy lambasts the Bolt Report.

  35. 35
    Matthew of Canberra
    Posted January 29, 2012 at 4:01 pm | Permalink

    I just learned something new. It wasn’t the crowd, it wasn’t the adviser, it wasn’t even tony abbott’s divisive comments about the tent embassy that caused the riot …

    I swear, I could not make this up:

    The so called journalist who asked the question of Mr.Abbott is the key behind this whole disgusting affair.

    aussie,aussie,aussie (Reply)
    Sun 29 Jan 12 (10:27am)

    Baden replied to aussie,aussie,aussie
    Sun 29 Jan 12 (11:18am)

    Yes. Let’s have her identified and all our concerns put to rest. Or not.

    Justin replied to aussie,aussie,aussie
    Sun 29 Jan 12 (11:25am)

    Very good point, why did this Journalist ask this question on Australia Day? I saw the video of it, it appeared an odd and controversial question that the ABC Journalist asked Mr Abbott on Australia day, was this a setup from the start incuding this question earlier in the day? Where did this question come from, the journalist should be identified and quizzed on what made her ask this particular question, that was used to cause a riot in Canberra!

    Refuteme replied to aussie,aussie,aussie
    Sun 29 Jan 12 (11:31am)

    You’re dead right Aussie Aussie Aussie.

    Let’s all email a complaint to the ABC about this disgusting misreporting (blatant lies actualy) I’ve just sent one to them. Here is the link to make complaints. The more they get the better. I might even send it to media watch, hopefully they will report the facts not some lefty bias they normally spin.
    http://www.abc.net.au/contact/complain.htm

    Refuteme

    Haggis742 replied to aussie,aussie,aussie
    Sun 29 Jan 12 (11:42am)

    Try This!

    Anyone recognise the female reporter’s voice?

    Leonie replied to aussie,aussie,aussie
    Sun 29 Jan 12 (01:10pm)

    It could be as simple as it being the 40th anniversary of the tent embassy but the question did seem to be a loaded one. There is the question as to how Hodges got onto it but maybe it’s his job to monitor these things. Who misrepresented what was said and who was involved, that really is important. We already know their motive.
    Elaine in Bundaberg replied to aussie,aussie,aussie
    Sun 29 Jan 12 (01:15pm)

    To Refuteme – it has been done. Reply will be interesting

    That is the most depressing thing I’ve read in weeks. That’s where an entire side of politics has its head at these days. EVERYTHING that doesn’t go their way is a vast conspiracy. Merely asking questions of their Leader is now a punishable offense (and it really was a very easy question. He’s the master of saying no, and he flubbed one of the few questions where “no” is actually the right answer. Why did he go off message and say what he really thought? Hasn’t he been told? NEVER say what you really think, tony. It makes people ANGRY, and lots of people to spend days and days making ^*#$ up to cover your arse).

    They’re zombies. Every @#%!ing one of them. They look like you or me, but their brains are filled with something wrong.

    I don’t quite know how to deal with this. These people vote. They’ve been told over and over that they’re skeptical, genius, downtrodden victims by their pied piper. They have major grudge against reality, and they want to take it out on all of us. They’re doped up on fact-repellant, and no conspiracy is too insane. And they’re completely owned by rupert murdoch’s droogs.

    I’m at a loss. And that’s actually as far as I got in that thread. I’m not looking any further. Somebody else has to do it. I can’t go on.

  36. 36
    Matthew of Canberra
    Posted January 29, 2012 at 4:05 pm | Permalink

    *sigh*

    It is always better that Mr Abbott speaks his beliefs in the dignified manner that he does. Never mind the question – everyone knows he speaks his mind and does not lie. He’s for real. smile

    carissa of brisbane (Reply)
    Sun 29 Jan 12 (10:50am)

    Field Marshall replied to carissa
    Sun 29 Jan 12 (12:25pm)

    “He’s for real.” – agreed Carissa.

    But we have an Atheist PM who isn’t the ‘real’ Julia – What therefor is her point in being an Atheist ?

    All Christians should denounce the existance of ‘real Julia’. smile

    The angry, ignorant and misled have been handed the keys to the asylum. This country is screwed.

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