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		<title>Comment on Weekend talk thread June 29 by jules</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/purepoison/2012/06/29/weekend-talk-thread-june-29/comment-page-2/#comment-82923</link>
		<dc:creator>jules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 12:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoops</description>
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		<title>Comment on Weekend talk thread June 29 by jules</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/purepoison/2012/06/29/weekend-talk-thread-june-29/comment-page-2/#comment-82922</link>
		<dc:creator>jules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 12:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nietzsche was fucken awesome.  he&#039;s also one of the most misunderstood people in history.  Stupid frackwits read him (like Hitler and apparently Rand,) and totally miss the point.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BrIGQ4Rbps&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;You&#039;re a good man alfred v/a&gt; and its good to see you round at the end of it all.  (PP,  Whyalla, civilisation in general.)

Huawei - are they any worse than the US companies?  Remeber HB Gary and the barr debacle a year and a half ago?  The guy who had Bernard Keane pegged as a kingpin in anonymous?  etc etc.  Why are Singapore less sus?  And everythings open source intel gathering these days anyway.  Google tells China everything it wants to know about all of us.

I&#039;d be more sus on Israeli equipment myself.  Israel values Australia&#039;s good will, China just values our resources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nietzsche was fucken awesome.  he&#8217;s also one of the most misunderstood people in history.  Stupid frackwits read him (like Hitler and apparently Rand,) and totally miss the point.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BrIGQ4Rbps" rel="nofollow">You&#8217;re a good man alfred v/a&gt; and its good to see you round at the end of it all.  (PP,  Whyalla, civilisation in general.)</p>
<p>Huawei &#8211; are they any worse than the US companies?  Remeber HB Gary and the barr debacle a year and a half ago?  The guy who had Bernard Keane pegged as a kingpin in anonymous?  etc etc.  Why are Singapore less sus?  And everythings open source intel gathering these days anyway.  Google tells China everything it wants to know about all of us.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be more sus on Israeli equipment myself.  Israel values Australia&#8217;s good will, China just values our resources.</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Something Wonky launches by Matthew of Canberra</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/purepoison/2012/06/29/something-wonky-launches/comment-page-1/#comment-82921</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew of Canberra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 12:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know about &quot;urging&quot;, but I do like The Master And Margarita.  Have I missed something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about &#8220;urging&#8221;, but I do like The Master And Margarita.  Have I missed something?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The many definitions of &#8220;editorial independence&#8221; by Indiana Jones</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/purepoison/2012/06/29/the-many-definitions-of-editorial-independence/comment-page-1/#comment-82920</link>
		<dc:creator>Indiana Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 11:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hilariously, on an article that goes to free speech, it&#039;s behind the pay wall.  At least the link given hits you with it.  I have never tried it before, but I did this time and a google of the headline gave me the full text.  Just gotta figure out a way to leave a comment that points this out without paying for it now.  

#LOLStralian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hilariously, on an article that goes to free speech, it&#8217;s behind the pay wall.  At least the link given hits you with it.  I have never tried it before, but I did this time and a google of the headline gave me the full text.  Just gotta figure out a way to leave a comment that points this out without paying for it now.  </p>
<p>#LOLStralian</p>
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		<title>Comment on Weekend talk thread June 29 by alfred venison</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/purepoison/2012/06/29/weekend-talk-thread-june-29/comment-page-2/#comment-82919</link>
		<dc:creator>alfred venison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 10:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angra, i&#039;ve heard that about hitler, too; a case of &quot;know your enemy&quot;?  and the music of richard wagner has never sounded better to me than as accompaniment to that &quot;world globe dance&quot;.
a.v.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angra, i&#8217;ve heard that about hitler, too; a case of &#8220;know your enemy&#8221;?  and the music of richard wagner has never sounded better to me than as accompaniment to that &#8220;world globe dance&#8221;.<br />
a.v.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Something Wonky launches by Angra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 10:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matthew -didn&#039;t you once urge us to read Mikhail Bulgakov?</description>
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		<title>Comment on Weekend talk thread June 29 by SHV</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/purepoison/2012/06/29/weekend-talk-thread-june-29/comment-page-2/#comment-82917</link>
		<dc:creator>SHV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 09:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Huawei, always take what you hear from our media with a grain of salt.

A bit like wikipedia, I usually include a quick wikileaks search before taking anything from the media too seriously:

[Huang concluded the discussion by asking why western media 
continued to portray Huawei as being closely associated with China&#039;s 
government and military.  He described the company&#039;s ongoing efforts 
to counter western misperceptions by increasing transparency with the 
media, customers and the public, as well as more direct interaction 
with western governments, citing the ICAF visit as an example.  The 
Huawei executives said they would continue these efforts and invited 
additional opportunities to expand dialogue.]

http://www.cablegatesearch.net/cable.php?id=09GUANGZHOU410&amp;q=huawei

&quot;ICAF&quot; is U.S. National Defense University&#039;s Industrial College of the Armed 
Forces and this cable is about a tour of a Huawei factory for ICAF students.

A search of the cables for &#039;Huawei&#039; returns 125 cables.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Huawei, always take what you hear from our media with a grain of salt.</p>
<p>A bit like wikipedia, I usually include a quick wikileaks search before taking anything from the media too seriously:</p>
<blockquote><p>Huang concluded the discussion by asking why western media<br />
continued to portray Huawei as being closely associated with China's<br />
government and military.  He described the company's ongoing efforts<br />
to counter western misperceptions by increasing transparency with the<br />
media, customers and the public, as well as more direct interaction<br />
with western governments, citing the ICAF visit as an example.  The<br />
Huawei executives said they would continue these efforts and invited<br />
additional opportunities to expand dialogue.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.cablegatesearch.net/cable.php?id=09GUANGZHOU410&#038;q=huawei" rel="nofollow">http://www.cablegatesearch.net/cable.php?id=09GUANGZHOU410&#038;q=huawei</a></p>
<p>&#8220;ICAF&#8221; is U.S. National Defense University&#8217;s Industrial College of the Armed<br />
Forces and this cable is about a tour of a Huawei factory for ICAF students.</p>
<p>A search of the cables for &#8216;Huawei&#8217; returns 125 cables.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Weekend talk thread June 29 by Angra</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/purepoison/2012/06/29/weekend-talk-thread-june-29/comment-page-2/#comment-82916</link>
		<dc:creator>Angra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 09:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MoC - you are right.  Rand&#039;s &quot;Atlas Shrugged&quot; is unreadable, egotistic, ranting and overtly partisan nonsense.

I bet no one who claims it is brilliant has ever read it right through.

She is not a &#039;philosopher&#039; or &#039;intellectual&#039; but merely a political polemicist, like one A. Bolt. All wind and piss but nothing substantial.

She&#039;s even worse than Nietzsche - who was one of her main inspirations.  And you know what he was (although much misunderestimated in my opinion).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MoC &#8211; you are right.  Rand&#8217;s &#8220;Atlas Shrugged&#8221; is unreadable, egotistic, ranting and overtly partisan nonsense.</p>
<p>I bet no one who claims it is brilliant has ever read it right through.</p>
<p>She is not a &#8216;philosopher&#8217; or &#8216;intellectual&#8217; but merely a political polemicist, like one A. Bolt. All wind and piss but nothing substantial.</p>
<p>She&#8217;s even worse than Nietzsche &#8211; who was one of her main inspirations.  And you know what he was (although much misunderestimated in my opinion).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Weekend talk thread June 29 by Jacques de Molay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/purepoison/2012/06/29/weekend-talk-thread-june-29/comment-page-2/#comment-82915</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacques de Molay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 08:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not content with expanding welfare quarantining across the country this Labor government are now expanding the intervention further into the NT for the next 10 years:

[Indigenous and human rights groups have condemned the Senate&#039;s rushed passing of new laws extending the intervention in remote Northern Territory areas.

It has been nearly five years since John Howard brought in the original policy.

Today&#039;s passing of the Stronger Futures laws mean the current measures will mostly continue for another 10 years.

The laws, which replaces the Federal Government&#039;s intervention powers in the NT, allow continued welfare quarantining and alcohol management in Indigenous communities. 

Amnesty International Australia says the law puts Australia&#039;s human rights record to shame.]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-29/stronger-futures-laws-rushed-through-senate/4100288

Can the ALP actually continue to sink any lower?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not content with expanding welfare quarantining across the country this Labor government are now expanding the intervention further into the NT for the next 10 years:</p>
<blockquote><p>Indigenous and human rights groups have condemned the Senate's rushed passing of new laws extending the intervention in remote Northern Territory areas.</p>
<p>It has been nearly five years since John Howard brought in the original policy.</p>
<p>Today's passing of the Stronger Futures laws mean the current measures will mostly continue for another 10 years.</p>
<p>The laws, which replaces the Federal Government's intervention powers in the NT, allow continued welfare quarantining and alcohol management in Indigenous communities. </p>
<p>Amnesty International Australia says the law puts Australia's human rights record to shame.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-29/stronger-futures-laws-rushed-through-senate/4100288" rel="nofollow">http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-29/stronger-futures-laws-rushed-through-senate/4100288</a></p>
<p>Can the ALP actually continue to sink any lower?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Weekend talk thread June 29 by Angra</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/purepoison/2012/06/29/weekend-talk-thread-june-29/comment-page-2/#comment-82914</link>
		<dc:creator>Angra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 08:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In case the younger Pips are wondering, the music from Babe is the last movement of Saint Seans 3rd Symphony (a probably unwarranted but inescapable dig).

In the films Nigel Westlake does a great job of adapting this to the story.

Another reason for Aussies to be proud of the film music our country has created,.. (Along with Malcolm Williamson, David Bridie etc.)

Here&#039;s a creditable performance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_2FKcorqqE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case the younger Pips are wondering, the music from Babe is the last movement of Saint Seans 3rd Symphony (a probably unwarranted but inescapable dig).</p>
<p>In the films Nigel Westlake does a great job of adapting this to the story.</p>
<p>Another reason for Aussies to be proud of the film music our country has created,.. (Along with Malcolm Williamson, David Bridie etc.)</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a creditable performance.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_2FKcorqqE" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_2FKcorqqE</a></p>
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