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	<title>Comments on: Markets are not efficient, says business school academic</title>
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		<title>By: Trevor Cook</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/trevorcook/2009/06/12/markets-are-not-efficient-says-business-school-academic/comment-page-1/#comment-2988</link>
		<dc:creator>Trevor Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting Stewart I hadn&#039;t made the link before but yes it fits the &#039;wait and see what happens&#039; category</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting Stewart I hadn&#8217;t made the link before but yes it fits the &#8216;wait and see what happens&#8217; category</p>
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		<title>By: Stewart J</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/trevorcook/2009/06/12/markets-are-not-efficient-says-business-school-academic/comment-page-1/#comment-2987</link>
		<dc:creator>Stewart J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 08:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Trev, your comment this evening about the manufacturers comment to Keating &quot;I&#039;ll wait and see&quot; springs to mind...as does your report of Keatings exposition in the Comcar afterwards...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Trev, your comment this evening about the manufacturers comment to Keating &#8220;I&#8217;ll wait and see&#8221; springs to mind&#8230;as does your report of Keatings exposition in the Comcar afterwards&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny Lee</title>
		<link>http://blogs.crikey.com.au/trevorcook/2009/06/12/markets-are-not-efficient-says-business-school-academic/comment-page-1/#comment-2985</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 23:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm. I&#039;m not so sure. I was thinking about this the other day when John Story of the Australian Institute of Company Directors attacked the government for its proposals to limit executive pay. 

As well as his gig at the Institute, Story is chairman of Suncorp Metway and Tabcorp. Last time I hopped into Commsec and checked the ten-year returns to shareholders in those two companies, they were averaging 3.5% and 3.8% per annum respectively; Suncorp has underperformed the market for seven out of the last ten financial years, and Tabcorp for five. This is in spite of the fact that both are in industries that should be no-brainers and benefited from strong brands (and in Tabcorp&#039;s case a monopoly) built up when they were government-run. 

If the experience of the early 1990s recession is any guide, it&#039;s companies like this that mainly benefit from corporate failures elsewhere, which give them a chance to enlarge their market share cheaply and position themselves to benefit when things turn up, often confirming rather than challenging their practices in the process. The Australian corporate sector has plenty of big companies in similar positions; Brambles (average ten-year shareholder return -1.18 per cent), Telstra (-3.5 per cent) and Amcor (2.3 per cent) are three that immediately come to mind. Unfortunately, size does matter, especially when it comes to negotiating for finance, and there&#039;s no sign of that changing any time soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm. I&#8217;m not so sure. I was thinking about this the other day when John Story of the Australian Institute of Company Directors attacked the government for its proposals to limit executive pay. </p>
<p>As well as his gig at the Institute, Story is chairman of Suncorp Metway and Tabcorp. Last time I hopped into Commsec and checked the ten-year returns to shareholders in those two companies, they were averaging 3.5% and 3.8% per annum respectively; Suncorp has underperformed the market for seven out of the last ten financial years, and Tabcorp for five. This is in spite of the fact that both are in industries that should be no-brainers and benefited from strong brands (and in Tabcorp&#8217;s case a monopoly) built up when they were government-run. </p>
<p>If the experience of the early 1990s recession is any guide, it&#8217;s companies like this that mainly benefit from corporate failures elsewhere, which give them a chance to enlarge their market share cheaply and position themselves to benefit when things turn up, often confirming rather than challenging their practices in the process. The Australian corporate sector has plenty of big companies in similar positions; Brambles (average ten-year shareholder return -1.18 per cent), Telstra (-3.5 per cent) and Amcor (2.3 per cent) are three that immediately come to mind. Unfortunately, size does matter, especially when it comes to negotiating for finance, and there&#8217;s no sign of that changing any time soon.</p>
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		<title>By: MBA Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>MBA Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I definitely see the point being made here, but I think it is a bit unfair to judge the market so quickly. Is the market efficient at rooting out poorly managed/run companies? yes. Does it do it quickly enough? No. Look at the businesses that have been around for 20 years or more... this may give us a better idea of the market&#039;s efficiency in this regard. This will be especially true after this economic blip.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://onlinebusinessschools.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MBA Blog&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely see the point being made here, but I think it is a bit unfair to judge the market so quickly. Is the market efficient at rooting out poorly managed/run companies? yes. Does it do it quickly enough? No. Look at the businesses that have been around for 20 years or more&#8230; this may give us a better idea of the market&#8217;s efficiency in this regard. This will be especially true after this economic blip.</p>
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