air safety

Feb 8, 2013

Dreamliner 787: Hints of dissent appear off stage

There are signs of a dispute burning away just off stage as Boeing, furious that the grounding order was ever made, pushes for approval of an interim fix that would get its huge backlog of Dreamliners flying again while the incomplete investigations and a final solution to the battery problems continue to be pursued.

Ben Sandilands — Editor of Plane Talking

Ben Sandilands

Editor of Plane Talking

NTSB photo of JAL 787 battery after 99 minute airport fire

The NTSB has determined the cause of the fire in a lithium-ion battery that burned for 99 minutes on the ground in the belly of a Japan Airlines 787 at Boston in January, and as it said overnight in a US briefing, the design, certification and manufacturing processes are under scrutiny.

But there are signs of a dispute burning away just off stage as Boeing, furious that the grounding order was ever made, pushes for approval of an interim fix that would get its huge backlog of Dreamliners flying again while the incomplete investigations and a final solution to the battery problems continue to be pursued.

Yet what Boeing said about the Dreamliner 787 lithium-ion batteries before certification and what has been uncovered by the investigations into two incidents that caused the airliner to be grounded is growing in importance.

The very integrity of the design and certification process is at stake.

Overnight the National Transportation Safety Board, NTSB issued this update, with the critical reference to ‘what happens next’ highlighted.

WASHINGTON – At a news conference today, NTSB Chairman Deborah A.P. Hersman identified the origin of the Jan. 7 battery fire that occurred on a Japan Airlines 787 parked at Boston Logan Airport, and said that a focus of the investigation will be on the design and certification requirements of the battery system.

“U.S. airlines carry about two million people through the skies safely every day, which has been achieved in large part through design redundancy and layers of defense,” said Hersman. “Our task now is to see if enough – and appropriate – layers of defense and adequate checks were built into the design, certification and manufacturing of this battery.”

After an exhaustive examination of the JAL lithium-ion battery, which was comprised of eight individual cells, investigators determined that the majority of evidence from the flight data recorder and both thermal and mechanical damage pointed to an initiating event in a single cell. That cell showed multiple signs of short circuiting, leading to a thermal runaway condition, which then cascaded to other cells. Charred battery components indicated that the temperature inside the battery case exceeded 500 degrees Fahrenheit.

As investigators work to find the cause of the initiating short circuit, they ruled out both mechanical impact damage to the battery and external short circuiting. It was determined that signs of deformation and electrical arcing on the battery case occurred as a result of the battery malfunction and were not related to its cause.

Chairman Hersman said that potential causes of the initiating short circuit currently being evaluated include battery charging, the design and construction of the battery, and the possibility of defects introduced during the manufacturing process.

During the 787 certification process, Boeing studied possible failures that could occur within the battery. Those assessments included the likelihood of particular types of failures occurring, as well as the effects they could have on the battery. In tests to validate these assessments, Boeing found no evidence of cell-to-cell propagation or fire, both of which occurred in the JAL event.

The NTSB learned that as part of the risk assessment Boeing conducted during the certification process, it determined that the likelihood of a smoke emission event from a 787 battery would occur less than once in every 10 million flight hours. Noting that there have been two critical battery events on the 787 fleet with fewer than 100,000 flight hours, Hersman said that “the failure rate was higher than predicted as part of the certification process and the possibility that a short circuit in a single cell could propagate to adjacent cells and result in smoke and fire must be reconsidered.”

As the investigation continues, which will include testing on some of the batteries that had been replaced after being in service in the 787 fleet, the NTSB will continue to share its findings in real time with the FAA, Boeing, the Japan Transport Safety Board, and the French investigative agency, the Bureau d’Enquêtes et d’Analyses.

“The decision to return the fleet to flight will be made by the FAA, which underscores the importance of cooperation and coordination between our agencies,” Hersman said.

She also announced that the NTSB would release an interim report of factual findings within 30 days.

Additional information, including a video of the today’s media briefing, the PowerPoint presentation, the FAA’s Special Conditions for the B-787 battery system, and related documents, can be accessed at

The NTSB update was paralleled by an FAA statement by U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood and FAA Administrator Michael Huerta confirming its report, but not yet issuing a possible timetable for when the grounded planes could return to service.

That statement says “Last month, we announced a comprehensive review of the 787’s critical systems including the aircraft’s design, manufacture and assembly. Since then, the FAA’s team of technical experts has been working around the clock to understand what happened and how best to prevent these issues from recurring. As part of this effort, the FAA is looking at both the certification process and specifically at the required tests and design of the aircraft’s lithium ion battery,” Huerta and LaHood said.

In US reports of the proposed Boeing interim fix, which includes redesigning the batteries in question to ensure better cooling, less risk of thermal runaway, and effective containment of the assembly to prevent the escape of toxic materials into the cabin and cockpit of the 787 in the event of such a failure, the company also referred to a change of battery technology as being possible in the design and introduction of a permanent fix.

Observers have read this as meaning a different form of lithium-ion technology, rather than a replacement of the lithium-ion processes in general.

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12 thoughts on “Dreamliner 787: Hints of dissent appear off stage

  1. LongTimeObserver

    What a scathing indictment of agency performance; NTSB’s Hersman taking on the 787 battery, FAA and Boeing’s self-certification assumptions. “Dereliction” comes to mind.

  2. SBH

    well there’s ya problem NTSB Chairman Deborah A.P. Hersman. Women, they’re reckin’ the joint.

  3. Malcolm Street

    What concerns me is if Boeing was able to be waved through on something this potentially disastrous, what else in the 787 might have got through certification that is just as wrong?

    I’ll be avoiding 787 flights for a few years – this aircraft has “Comet” written all over it…

  4. keesje

    This time, Boeings Ray Conner was not in the room to take the lead and check everyone says its a safe aicraft. Good.

  5. keesje

    Ray Conner was not in the room taking the lead & check everyone says its a save aircraft. Good.

  6. George Cayley

    I too like Malcolm will not be flying 787 – I stated to my folks back in the UK that I would wait for at least 3 years after entry into service having tracked the progress of the 787 & the problem solving relating to electrical systems.

    I think that Boeing may have a bit of PR work to do here depending on how long the 787 problems are front & centre in the world press (not for the airlines desperate to get the new a/c but the fare paying passengers).

  7. comet


    There are a lot of people questioning the lack of independence from US transport secretary Ray LaHood and FAA head Michael Huerta, who stood side-by-side with Boeing’s Ray Conner, to defend the safeness of the 787 before an inquiry had even begun.

    It showed bias when there should be none. All should be fired.

  8. Ronnie Moore

    Why would we not be entitled to ask and suspect that this battery issue is not the only issue on the 787? How could a world-class company like Boeing get to this point of believing that the battery, a potential bomb housed in the midst of other electronics and encased in such a way to confine its heat generation, given if it failed in any way, would not cause a fairly major problem? Which group in Boeing made that decision? What else in the 787 is a ticking time bomb?

    In comparison with the outstanding job Boeing did on the 777, thanks possibly to Alan Mulally’s approach to teamwork and risk evaluation, they didn’t learn much. Or, their current outsourcing model leaves a lot to be desired. So much so, that it might break the company.

  9. keesje

    Remember that MIT professor that took a quick look at the battery right after the incidents and he thought that such powerful Li-Ion batteries should have spacing and ventilation between the cells. (seems everyone knew, do they have access to the internet at Boeing?) It seems some basic rules of thumb were reasoned away, test results smartly selected and self certified on behalf of a customer service focussed authority. I prey the other innovative technologies weren’t handled this way.

  10. bill mecorney

    ZA002 had a power panel fire in the aft E/E bay, United had a GEN/distribution (power panel) issue, Two recent Battery issues. On a project that required bulletproof integration, the new electrics were scattered about the globe. Maybe the wrong type with which to invent design/build/integrate…. Inopportune. Innovative Engineering doesn’t travel well. Maybe next time.

  11. bill mecorney

    keesje. Ray La Hood resigned. You knew that? His was a political appointment, his degree is Sociology. Politicians believe in talking first, thinking second.

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