air safety

Jul 5, 2017

Withheld MH370 data supports official claims of high speed impact

No doubt to the frustration of conspiracy theorists the missing signals from MH370 endorse the ATSB's most likely scenario for the jet's final moments

Ben Sandilands — Editor of Plane Talking

Ben Sandilands

Editor of Plane Talking

The key graphic from the latest independent MH370 analysis

Independent MH370 investigations says that previously ‘secret’ communications satellite data supports Australian claims that the Malaysian Airlines jet, missing for more than three years, crashed at high speed into the south Indian Ocean.

In his forensic review of that data, Victor

That data was released last month to one of the next of kin of the 239 people who died when MH370, a Boeing 777-200ER, vanished on a flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing on March 8, 2014.

A critical feature of the missing data was that it also contained all of the information transmitted via an Inmarsat satellite link on the previous flight by the jet, from Beijing to Kuala Lumpur, picking up features within it that were common to both flights and not anomalies unique to MH370.

As a result of revised drift analysis, the CSIRO and the ATSB now say there is more certainty as to the likely resting place of sunk wreckage from the flight on the floor of the ocean, but the search for that debris was called off in the New Year by the search partners, Australia, Malaysia and China.


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9 thoughts on “Withheld MH370 data supports official claims of high speed impact

  1. ggm

    I don’t want to appear overly inhumane, but I suspect that wider public interest in this has now moved to the historic. If anyone in this conversation had suffered the tragedy of personal loss I am sorry if saying it causes you pain. I don’t like this aspect of how we work en masse, care in things has a ramp-off slope, and I think the airlines and politicians have managed quite nicely to move most of us beyond that slope. Its likely we’ll care more if somebody makes a cogent case to restart the seabed search, and I suspect we’ll act like we always cared, if somebody finds something down there.

    For example, Look at how much reflection has gone on for the blow-ups in the middle east, or the loss of Iranian aircraft, or even the most recent controlled descent into ground in France: We basically moved on, emotionally to a new story.

    1. comet

      Huh? Both relatives and investigators want to find out what happened in what is the biggest aviation mystery of all time. The world has not moved on. I predict the seabed search will be restarted.

      1. ggm

        Sure, It was obvious relatives want this. Relatives != “the world”

        Do you think “the wider public” care any more? I suspect, I believe, they don’t. Its just a story on the mid pages, along side other stories.

        Investigators? well.. lets be clear here: the CSIRO and Fugro would love it. They get paid, and get validation of research outcomes. Do you really think all of the Chinese, Malaysian or Australian governments universally want to do this? Last I heard, the AU government wanted a signficant unavoidble signal to resume. Arguably they have one, but the question is if they will accept it, for what its worth.

        Please understand I don’t intend to diminish the loss or anguish. I’m saying what I think “the general public” think, en masse. Nobody asked as an individual is going to say “I don’t care” but I doubt if there is a significant community-wide, general clamour for this investigation to reopen. I doubt people could remember the flight number.

        1. Tango

          I agree the world has moved on and its an aviation mystery. Right up there with Earharts disappearance (though that was less mysterious and just plane poor thought out flight and capability)

          My dad and his friend both died in a boating loss.

          They found my dad on the beach, his friend was never found.

          Did I want to know the details of what happened to them? No. They died, having tried that a few times myself, its nothing I want to repeat.

          Would it have made any difference to find the friend? No, we all knew that he was dead. I don’t get this closure thing. There is zero possibility of any other outcome than on MH370 all died.

          I was given the option to go to my dads burial, I chose not to.

          My last sight of him was him and his friend off on their trip on a sunny day, all smiles and as happy as two guys can get. That memory I will keep.

          The funeral was closed casket. Someone who has been in the water for 4 days and tossed around in the surf on a beach is pretty gruesome.

    2. Bob the builder

      This is a frontrunner for most pointless comment, 2017.

      1. Tango

        Well that’s your opinion.

        Anything to add that substantiates that , counters it or just flipping stuff out?

  2. Tango

    The big question is does it refine things any more than they were before?

    Obviously it was not in the prime search area – there is a variable or variables there not picked up or not analyzed.

    I also believe we need the Malacca Straights data so that can be analyzed as well for what the aircraft was doing.

  3. Dan Dair

    Perhaps the reason why Malaysia have chosen to reveal all this information at this time,
    is exactly because the search has been called-off for more than six months
    AND that ‘normal’ people (who generally don’t give too much of a stuff about aviation, unless they’re actually flying somewhere at the time) have pretty-well confined this whole scenario to the auspices of an SEP-field. (Douglas Adams-Hitch-Hikers Guide to the Galaxy. SEP-field: an event which does not actually affect you as an individual…. Somebody Else’s Problem.!)

    What better time to reveal one of the final pieces of the jigsaw……?
    Just at a point when finding the actual wreckage is still less likely, even in spite of information which might get close to ‘pinpointing’ the impact-point.

    Consequently, no-one will be asking
    (or at least definitively answering)
    the really important questions about WHY the aircraft went missing.?

  4. Dan Dair

    With the greatest respect to all concerned,
    I don’t think conspiracy theorists are seriously hampered by these latest revelations.?

    What we are now reasonably sure of is that 9M-MRO crashed uncontrolled, into the sea when it’s fuel was exhausted.
    However, how it came to be in that situation in the first place has still to be in any way established. All we have so far is a bunch of theories, some sensible, some not.
    It’ll be a fantastic film when it gets made…… There’s almost no hard facts to get in the way of a good storyline, no matter how fantastic.

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