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Jan 7, 2013

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Welcome back. While we were away:

• Newspoll published state results for every mainland state except Western Australia, where an election will be held on March 9, the result for which can presumably be expected shortly. There was also Newspoll’s quarterly geographical and demographic aggregate for federal voting intention. Essential Research provided state voting intention results for the three largest states, exclusive to the Poll Bludger. Posts on each of these releases can be found below this one.

• Newspoll also published results from its mid-December poll finding improving confidence for standard of living, with 13% expecting an improvement over the next six months (up one), 58% expecting it to stay the same (up eight) and 27% expecting it to worsen (down nine). GhostWhoVotes also provided Newspoll findings from a mid-year survey into appreciation of the ABC, which was found to be immensely and deservedly greater than anything the organisation’s critics at News Limited could ever dream of.

• A generally commendable discussion paper on electoral reform by the Queensland government caught the attention of the media and the federal government by floating, among many other things, the possibility that compulsory voting might be abolished. In this it was no different from the green paper composed for the Rudd government in 2009 by then Special Minister of State John Faulkner, but such has been the Newman government’s penchant for radicalism that its thought bubbles are being treated with greater than usual seriousness.

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Dingbat
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Surely before we talk about the poor mum and dad investors that lost money in The Greatest Hoax of the 21st Century If Not The Entire Millenium we actually need evidence of who it was that sold shares and how much money people actually lost.

If you jump at the first whiff of grapeshot perhaps you shouldn’t be in the sharemarket game.

Dorrie Evans
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test

ShowsOn
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BULLSHIT 52 NEXT MONDAY IN PARTS OF S.A.!

confessions
Guest

And on that note I’ going to bed as well.

Night all.

confessions
Guest

Deblonay:

Instead of whingeing at me, make the arguments against Psephos’ views.

If you can.

crikey whitey
Guest

Shut up the wingeing, while your behind.

It is hot as hell pretty well on much of the vast continent.

Save your money and your decent stuff to donate.

It will be needed.

confessions
Guest

deblonay:

Read my 630.

Meanwhile Maatsuyker Isl is in for a terrible next couple of days wind-wise.

http://wind.willyweather.com.au/tas/southern/maatsuyker-island.html

deblonay
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Confessions
Both I and Bemused had thought that Peaches Hutchison equating the responses of the Left to Israel with the collapse of the Soviet Union were too silly be the subject of debate
most people would think as I and Bemused did… quite seperately
on this occassion

as to my Sydney query re highest Temp. it was just that…
a question

How can you see a question as a statement then deny it…
be honest you were wrong

deblonay
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Confessions 628.. not an opinion of yours at all
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You misquoted me and then derided me knowing that your own statement was untrue
\Tolling by any standards

ShowsOn
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[William, that is why I did not name it.
So even allusions are out. OK.]
Are you referring to Bullshit Bill’s Blog of Batshit Insanity?

briefly
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[632
bemused

Goodnight all. Things are now cool enough to sleep in reasonable comfort.]

If only. It’s still a sauna here.

bemused
Guest

Goodnight all. Things are now cool enough to sleep in reasonable comfort.

bemused
Guest

confessions @ 630

Quit while you are behind.

You were merely accused of verbaling and misquoting.

Such blatant mis-representation of what deblonay ASKED about the Sydney forecast temperature would be characterised by some less charitable as a lie.

confessions
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[Trolling is the right word for Confessions comment] Actually calling a commenter ‘stupid’ and guffawing with your monkey idiot support squad cheering on is itself trolling. You can’t define why Peaches’ comment is ‘stupid’, so instead choose to have a go at me for rating your response to him/her in similar fashion to yours. Despite disagreeing with Psephos on the whole Israel-Palestine thing, I’m starting to have distinct sympathies for his views simply because there is apparently nobody on the so-called ‘left’ who is capable of refuting his arguments (and those of his supporters) in logical, rational, meaningful manner. If… Read more »
bemused
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Good post by Malcolm Farnsworth at AustralianPolitics.com
Who Will Win The 2013 Federal Election? – Part 1

Farnsworth is very sober and realistic in his appraisal of the situation of the Federal Government.

confessions
Guest

deblonay:

Not verballing at all, just an opinion.

As per your smarmy, pat-on-the-back put down of another commenter.

Live it, learn it.

bemused
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William, that is why I did not name it.
So even allusions are out. OK.

deblonay
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Thasnks Bemused for your post 622
Trolling is the right word for Confessions comment

confessions
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[Ezra Klein ‏@ezraklein
Wonkbook: Everything you need to know about Chuck Hagel. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/01/07/wonkbook-everything-you-need-to-know-about-chuck-hagel/ … ]

Driving home ABC Newsradio called him Chuck ‘Nagel’ which was kind of amusing given it followed a report from Perth about something to do with a notorious pedophile called Shane Narkle being freed from prison, or something.

deblonay
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Confessions You have misquoted my post 543
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I “asked:” if a Sydney temp of 43 would be record?
I did NOT say it would be

Go back and see your error

bemused
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confessions@616


That post on the Eastern Bloc is an early contended…first day.!!..for the silliest post of the year


Nah. Your comment stating Sydney’s predicted temperature tomorrow is its highest ever is what idiots like Andrew Bolt have been feasting on for years.

Goose, gander etc.

Didn’t take you long to get back to your old tricks of verballing people and trolling.

deblonay @ 543 said: “If it peaks at 43 deg. or above ,will this be a record temp for Sydney ?”

Surely you know this was a question and not a statement?

There is another blog better suited to your behaviour.

confessions
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[ScienceAlert ‏@ScienceAlert
The temperature map across Australia for tomorrow, wow. Stay safe Aussie followers! http://twitpic.com/bt8mdt ]

What irritates me about this and general OM reportage is that Perth can swelter through a week + heatwave of temps above 40 degrees every day. Yet Sydney cops one day of 40+ degrees and suddenly it’s heatwave projections at 20 paces from any number of quarters.

It’s summer! And it’s AGW!

ShowsOn
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CRAP!

crikey whitey
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William. Whatever. The above. The agendas.

If this is a foretaste….

May your short time off have geared you. Annus Horribilus, I believe someone said.

New Year Best Wishes.

Kind regards.

deblonay
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Bemused re Menzies House
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A strange outfit…for merely suggesting that some of the contributors had a neo-fascist outlook, I was removed and banned over the New Year
So much for their ” there is room for all in Menzies House ” slogan

MsAdventure
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Sprocket

The Tele has changed the headline to “NSW Liberal MPs’ cap-in-hand cash drive”

Someone must have noticed. 🙂

confessions
Guest

[That post on the Eastern Bloc is an early contended…first day.!!..for the silliest post of the year]

Nah. Your comment stating Sydney’s predicted temperature tomorrow is its highest ever is what idiots like Andrew Bolt have been feasting on for years.

Goose, gander etc.

bemused
Guest

deblonay@611


Bemused re GLC
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What Krugman is saying might also apply to the reactions of economists and politicians to the Depression of the 1930ies

Yes, but some learnt something from that experience.

It did not need to be partially re-run.

bemused
Guest

ShowsOn@610


Shows, where have you been the last two weeks?


Australia.

I was expecting you to do battle with all the batshit insanity flying around. 😀

bemused
Guest

deblonay@609


Bemused re Peaches Hutchison 552
__________________
That post on the Eastern Bloc is an early contended…first day.!!..for the silliest post of the year
what a feat !

I think Peaches needs to get out of Menzies House more often and learn a little history and politics.

deblonay
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Bemused re GLC
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What Krugman is saying might also apply to the reactions of economists and politicians to the Depression of the 1930ies

ShowsOn
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[Shows, where have you been the last two weeks?]
Australia.

deblonay
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Bemused re Peaches Hutchison 552
__________________
That post on the Eastern Bloc is an early contended…first day.!!..for the silliest post of the year
what a feat !

bemused
Guest

ShowsOn@603


BULL CRAP!

Shows, where have you been the last two weeks?

ShowsOn
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[Mod Lib, thee were questions asked about your non-appearance at the other blog which shall remain nameless.

Did they scare you off?]
Mod Lib was too busy crying.

confessions
Guest

[Geoff Pearson ‏@GCobber99
Remember Reith’s $50,000 Commonwealth PhoneCard fiasco -Slipper $900 over claim on car expenses, guess which one is going to court?]

Not to mention Abbott’s crusade around the country at taxpayer’s expense telling all kinds of fibs about the economy and carbon pricing.

bemused
Guest
Mod Lib, that Krugman article could have been custom written for you. Some examples: [So what can be done? A smaller financial shock, like the dot-com bust at the end of the 1990s, can be met by cutting interest rates. But the crisis of 2008 was far bigger, and even cutting rates all the way to zero wasn’t nearly enough. At that point governments needed to step in, spending to support their economies while the private sector regained its balance. And to some extent that did happen: revenue dropped sharply in the slump, but spending actually rose as programs like… Read more »
This little black duck
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This little black duck

Mr Slipper will be fronting the beak on 15 February. Mr Abbott will be disappointed that it is not on a sitting day.

[margo kingston ‏@margokingston1
Our @abissicus says Slipper case listed for ACT Magistrates Court on Feb 15th – http://www.courts.act.gov.au/magistrates/lists/index … Anyone want to report what happens?]

ShowsOn
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BULL CRAP!

deblonay
Guest

Republicans say the Hagel nomination would be an “insult
to Israel”
Where alse could the appointment of a senior minister be seen as a matter needing the approval of another country to become valid ??

http://www.theage.com.au/world/republicans-warn-obama-on-pentagon-job-20130107-2cbyw.html

confessions
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crikey whitey:

Apparently charges are to be laid against a man who left a camp fire unattended in Tas which caused a bushfire.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/national/15771947/man-facing-charge-as-new-tas-fire-looms/

bemused
Guest

Mod Lib, thee were questions asked about your non-appearance at the other blog which shall remain nameless.

Did they scare you off?

bemused
Guest
This is a great article by Paul Krugman in the NYT. The Big Fail Apart from other things it includes this succinct explanation of a recession or depression. [The story, at this point, is fairly straightforward. The financial crisis led, through several channels, to a sharp fall in private spending: residential investment plunged as the housing bubble burst; consumers began saving more as the illusory wealth created by the bubble vanished, while the mortgage debt remained. And this fall in private spending led, inevitably, to a global recession. For an economy is not like a household. A family can decide… Read more »
Jolyon Wagg
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Mod Lib

[Hope everyone had a relaxing refreshing Festivus.]

Good that you have shown up, we were just about to start the airing of grievances :).

briefly
Guest

Either way, the Republicans have a serious generational issue. They have survived so long by getting southern whites to persistently vote against their economic interest. this must exhaust eventually, and the Republicans will have to reach back to the centre of American society

briefly
Guest

Psephos…makes sense

Psephos
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[Psephos, T think the share of the vote won by Republicans in house contests was well under 50%….could be wrong, but can recall this assertion]

These figures are a bit dodgy because there are always a number of districts where the sitting member is opposed only by a Libertarian and polls 90% of the vote.

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