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ReachTEL: 51-49 to Coalition

A second post-Ruddstoration ReachTEL result finds little change on the first, and confirms the impression that Malcolm Turnbull is strongly favoured over both the current contenders.

ReachTEL has published results of an automated phone poll of 2922 respondents across the country which has the Coalition leading 51-49, down from 52-48 in the immediate aftermath of the leadership change, from primary votes of 39.3% for Labor (up 0.5%, 45.4% for the Coalition (up 0.3%) and 8.3% for the Greens (down 0.4%). ReachTEL shows Kevin Rudd with an unusually narrow 52.4-47.6 lead over Tony Abbott as preferred prime minister, but the knife is nonetheless turned on Abbott by a result on voting intention under a Malcolm Turnbull leadership which has the Coalition lead at 58-42. Turnbull is also favoured 65-35 over Rudd as preferred prime minister.

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Puff, the Magic Dragon.
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Puff, the Magic Dragon.

Our termite too his wife to Afghanistan?

Hey Boerwar, if you are around, Tick Tock.

mexicanbeemer
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DisplayName I think you are misinterpreting the situation. Australia is still accepting refugees Rudd’s plan if successful may be the best thing to ever happen for refugees. Howard was able to run a high migration rate yet there was little to no opposition, why because the Government was seen as being in control. This brings me back to the Rudd plan. If nothing had changed and the number of boat arrivals kept increasing it would have started to undermine the whole immigration program. If the number had reached lets say 100,000 boat arrivals, how would the voters have reacted. Would… Read more »
Fran Barlow
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People sometimes ask if the ALP will ever become the party of the left-of-centre imagination, or at least, no longer a party ethically and politically indistinguishable from its major centre-right rival. The short answer is no. This is because those who favour such a course are willing to vote ALP despite the lack of interest in the ALP in doing so, or, these days, even winking at the left. As an old and repurposed aphorism runs: why buy the cow when you can have the milk for free? Until the ALP needs left|sts to support it in order to defeat… Read more »
shellbell
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crikey whitey
Posted Saturday, July 20, 2013 at 6:28 pm | PERMALINK
AA

‘I really do wonder about these High Court challenges.

They seem to happen when Labor tries to do something’.

Put’s one in mind of the police, State and Fed.

Albeit pursuing only the non LNP suspects.]

Not hard to debunk a myth. TryCommunist Party challenge under the Menzies govt or Patricks under Howard where the High Court resisted or blocked Federal Govt action.

Next time someone cheers a HC result, that person may pause to consider cliched assertions about elites etc which passed for debate last night.

Silky38
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Scott Morrision has a face that just begs to be punched repeatedly.

Fran Barlow
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Psyclaw:

[He said that the method/manner in which a nation honours that obligation is not at all prescribed by the Convention.]

That’s true, but there are some exclusions, namely, not considering the manner in which arrivals present for protection in the claim. There are a bunch of others about ‘free movement’ within the jurisdiction, supply of travel documents, employment and education and housing and public relief, ‘the liberal professions’ and accreditation, not treating them worse than aliens in the territory who aren’t protected and so forth.

Fran Barlow
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AbsoluteTwaddle: [The whole ‘having influence on policy’ thing didn’t appear to be to their liking. Oh well, gotta try it to knock it!] Having ‘influence’ on policy is only useful if the influence you get approaches ends you regard as worthy. If you become a mere appendage of policies you abhor, then having no ‘influence’ is at worst, no worse and arguably better, since you can disavow responsibility for bad things. The Malaysia ‘solution’ — a policy of coercive and punitive rendition on a smaller scale than PNG — is a good example of this. The Greens could not have… Read more »
frednk
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Posted Sunday, July 21, 2013 at 12:14 am | Permalink

johncanb@2333

I think you are right with that.
Attitudes have hardened as may be seen on PB where Psephos has had considerable success in convincing others who previously disagreed with his views.
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Psephos is one screwed up puppy; hopfully no-one takes him seriously.

Suggesting that there be no Visas policy makes no sense if your only option is to drown them, create an underclass in Australia because they can’t can’t work or lock them up forever.

Rudds brillance in this case is to come up with a forth option.

crikey whitey
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Little wonder we are whatever we are.

Civility and normal decent behaviour? Oh, for the good old days.

Pine Gap drives US drone kills

July 21, 2013 Philip Dorling

Central Australia’s Pine Gap.

Central Australia’s Pine Gap spy base has played a key role in the United States’ controversial drone strikes involving the ”targeted killing” of al-Qaeda and Taliban chiefs, Fairfax Media can reveal.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/national/pine-gap-drives-us-drone-kills-20130720-2qbsa.html#ixzz2ZbTLS4MR

pedant
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absolutetwaddle @ 2374: Some time back, probably too long ago for you to remember. Back in the days when (a) civility was more common in society than it is now; and (b) when it wasn’t simply assumed that the normal rules of decent behaviour didn’t apply to political discourse.

I wonder how many of you here realise just how much you have in common with Alan Jones and Howard Sattler?

crikey whitey
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Dave

Think we need a Snowden.

Or maybe this is Assange’s motive for office.

crikey whitey
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Absolutetwaddle

Mmmh.

Reminded me of the words I posted the other night.

Oh, I want to be a punk rocker, with flowers in my hair…

lefty e
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Could be right TP & CW. Im just guessing, like all of us.

absolutetwaddle
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pedant

Yeah, the good old’ days when schadenfreude didn’t exist and everyone was friends and disagreements were resolved by the exchange of rainbows and puppies and people weren’t jerks on the internet.

Wait when was this again?

crikey whitey
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Thomas.

Got it in one.

Few could call the events coincidental.

Thomas. Paine.
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There would have been no harm in Indonesia agreeing a forum to nut out a regional solution when Gillard was in the job. That they didn’t was either because it wasn’t put to them, or put to them they way Rudd may have. Or they were not interested in helping a Gillard govt. The Indonesia change of policy on visas I doubt had anything to do with Gillard, they did it at the request of Rudd. The willingness of Indonesia to confirm its opposition to Abbott’s policy when the Lib’s tried to twist it, and going on TV. All these… Read more »
Thomas. Paine.
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Its become a footy match.

lefty e
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To intervene in the Rudd/ Gillared debate, I would make the following observations:

1. Rudd is a former diplomat and FM, where Gillard is perhaps curiously distinguished by her lack of engagement with foreign affairs

2. However, Indonesia doesnt move that quickly. Im guessing some of these annoncements were indeed first cooked up under Gillard for electoral season.

3. However again, PNG does move quick, especially where AU is concerned. It wouldnt surprise me if this one was all Rudd.

Thomas. Paine.
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Rudd comes to power. That night Carr talks about boat persons being mostly economic migrants. Rudd states Abbott’s policy could lead to diplomatic conflict and raise the specter of military confrontation. Some say that was going to far…but had the effect of having Abbott’s policy under examination and puts Abbott on back foot. Rudd goes to Indonesia and gets agreement 1.for a regional solution to be worked 2. Indonesia rebuff Abbott’s policy (and rebuffed it again later in case clothe ears didn’t hear properly) 3. Indonesia cancels policy of giving visas to all ‘fleeing’ muslims coming to Indonesia. At request… Read more »
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