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Federal Politics 2013-

Jan 13, 2014

Morgan: 52.5-47.5 to Labor

The Christmas-New Year poll drought ends courtesy of a new result from Morgan, which suggests little has changed over the break.

Morgan has released what it describes as the “first major public opinion poll of 2014”, though it could just as easily have dropped the “major”. It provides no indication of festive cheer softening attitudes towards the new government, showing the Coalition down 1.5% on the primary vote to 39% with Labor also down half a point to 38%, the Greens up half a point to 10.5% and the Palmer United Party steady on 3.5%. That translates to a 53-47 lead to Labor on 2013 preference flows and 52.5-47.5 on the headline respondent-allocated figure. As has been Morgan’s form for a while now, this poll combines its regular weekend face-to-face polling with SMS component, in this case encompassing 2527 respondents from the two weekends past. The first Essential Research result for the year should be with us tomorrow.

UPDATE: Little change also from Essential Research, which opens it account for the year with a result from the polling period of Friday to Monday only, rather than its two-week rolling average. This has the Coalition leading 51-49, with the Coalition, Labor and the Greens each up a point on the primary vote to 45%, 38% and 8% respectively, with the Palmer United Party steady on 4% and others down two to 6%. Also featured are the monthly personal ratings, showing a slight improvement for Tony Abbott – up two on approval to 47% and down three on disapproval to 43% – and a softening for Bill Shorten, down four to 35% and up one to 32%. Preferred prime minister is little changed, Abbott’s lead shifting from 43-33 to 42-31. The poll also finds strong opposition to fees for GP visits, with 28% approving and 64% disapproving, and 47% support for Australia becoming a republic at the end of the Queen’s reign against 32% opposed.

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Otiose
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04:57:00 16/01/2014 ——- Nett_NEWS++™ http://bit.ly/1aQcqOy NB Pique of the Week

paaptsef
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[ You must all recall our rates rising while others went to zero. ]
Yes the incompetent Libs ignored 20+ warnings about spending
and we had about a dozen consecutive rate rises

briefly
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[1565 confessions The professional fishermen who will patrol West Australian waters as “shark sheriffs” are still to be contracted, despite a State Government deadline passing last week.] It will most likely cost at least $4,000 per boat per fishing day to operate the drum-and-line fishing gear mentioned by the Fisheries Department. This would cover the hire of 35-40′ vessels suitable for WA coastal waters, engagement of crew, the supply of fishing gear and bait, and the fuel, lubricants, insurance, maintenance and other running costs. Such boats can set and pull 20 km of gear in a day in seas up… Read more »
silmaj
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1576 and 1577
Labor decided to fiscally keep demand going which then put a restraint on the independent monetary tool being used to perhaps the extent it could have been. You must all recall our rates rising while others went to zero. The govt now has a large overdraft and supposed spending increase to come. The low overseas rates have allowed the once were weak business to restructure and are starting to thrive. Aus business never got that chance. We are know in a global economy and govt intervention against the globe is pointless.

Fulvio Sammut
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OK, only one then.

Good night.

Fulvio Sammut
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I appears that we have been reduced to a small gaggle of West Australians here tonight.

Did you guys see or hear the little piggy from the Hotels Association squealing that the Liquor recommendations were unfair and the result of the efforts of self interest groups such as the medical lobby and the police, pushing their own agenda against the best interests of the community?

And he said it with a straight face, too.

Fulvio Sammut
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Well said, Briefly.

briefly
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[1565 confessions The professional fishermen who will patrol West Australian waters as “shark sheriffs” are still to be contracted, despite a State Government deadline passing last week. This has been a balls-up from the get go. Contracting issues, tendering issues, budgetary issues, now recruitment issues. If it looks like, smells like and sounds like policy on the run, then it’s most likely policy on the run.] Hunting sharks is an idiotic idea as well as a barbaric one. It will only result in the pointless destruction of (endangered) Great Whites that will in any case be replaced by new individuals.… Read more »
Fulvio Sammut
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And your premise is that the Labor Government couldn’t service it’s piffling budget excess?

Sorry, you’ve been polite, and you deserve a civil response, so I’ll simply say that your premise is totally unacceptable by any objective economic analysis.

mexicanbeemer
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silmaj

There is more to Keynes than just borrowing money, it is about supporting the Aggregate Demand side of the economy.

prettyone
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“You don’t rock’n’roll for a living by any chance?”

‘course not, but would you like to hear about some dirty deeds done dirt cheap?

silmaj
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Keynes is an unknown to me . Borrowing money that you can’t repay is pretty simple really. It’s a no no.

imacca
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[asking me but I don’t invite ridicule.]

Oh come on, you can expect anyone to take that statement seriously.

Yesiree Bob
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and on that point, it’s time to go sweat

Yesiree Bob
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ou obviously know where the GFC came from USA , Britain and Europe. You are probably aware how they got there.

Thirty years of ongoing tax-cuts to the top tier, combined with a total deregulation of the credit industry, actually.
That pretty much sums up Coalition policy over the past thirty years.

Must really irk you lot that Keynes was vindicated over the GFC, eh Buddy ?

Fulvio Sammut
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Barnett’s unilateral decree to destroy all 3 metre sharks has as much logic, benefit and substance as the biblical edict to kill each first born son.

confessions
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FS:

Touche.

Whatever it is, it’s totally unacceptable.

silmaj
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1558
Borrowing is fine as long as the revenue for repaying is constant and what you’ve borrowed the money for is going to continue long enough to pay the debt.
1561
You obviously know where the GFC came from USA , Britain and Europe. You are probably aware how they got there. If we continue as they did b4 the GFC then I guess well all get the chance to see what it feels like.

Fulvio Sammut
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You call Barnett’s brain fart “policy”? 🙂

confessions
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[The professional fishermen who will patrol West Australian waters as “shark sheriffs” are still to be contracted, despite a State Government deadline passing last week.]

This has been a balls-up from the get go. Contracting issues, tendering issues, budgetary issues, now recruitment issues.

If it looks like, smells like and sounds like policy on the run, then it’s most likely policy on the run.

Fulvio Sammut
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That will be an on water operational issue for which there will be no answer forthcoming.

paaptsef
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[ It would certainly raise that apprehension. ]
So if our Navy is firing warning shots and the criminal captain of a boat full of asylum seekers decides to ignore that warning, what does our navy do next..

bemused
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Goodnight all.

Off to try to get some sleep.

Yesiree Bob
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Admiration,I’m not so sure. The main reason people voted for lib was continuous inability of labor to manage a budget. If you don’t manage your budget when self employed your gone.

Yep, bugger saving the nation from the GFC, much better to follow the US, Brittan, and the rest of the OECD into the Great Recession, eh Buddy ?

bemused
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paaptsef@1557


Presumably shots in the air are warning that non compliance will result in shots being fired at a target..

It would certainly raise that apprehension.

Fulvio Sammut
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I operated on a substantial overdraft and carried significant mortgages all my business life.

It didn’t prevent me from accumulating assets or setting myself up for a relatively comfortable retirement.

There is nothing wrong with judicious debt, and only an idiot would abjure borrowing as a matter of ideology, particularly when the borrowing protects his assets, advances his business and enhances his standard of living.

prettyone
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“Also if you’re up for it why do you admire him (I promise I won;t laugh if you answer, tho others might.”

Thank you Jules for asking me but I don’t invite ridicule. My comments will only inflame people here. I was just wanting to say there are many ordinary people like myself who vote conservative.

paaptsef
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[ The allegation was that shots had been fired in the air.

A stupid and totally unnecessary action if it happened, but certainly not in the league of firing on boats. ]
Presumably shots in the air are warning that non compliance will result in shots being fired at a target..

taylormade
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Briefly 1505 & 1517 Agree with these posts, fertile ground everywhere for Labor outside of the boats issue, so why is labor still continuing down this line. Do they still maintain the AS policy they took to the election, or are they looking at a more humane approach. Did not Bob Carr warn of the dangers of another backflip just before he stood down. If the govt want to crow about stopping the boats, the opposition after making such a hash of it during its term of Govt have just got to suck it up. Labor lost this debate years… Read more »
silmaj
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1546
Admiration,I’m not so sure. The main reason people voted for lib was continuous inability of labor to manage a budget. If you don’t manage your budget when self employed your gone.

Yesiree Bob
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AA, you really think a reptilian shit like Abbott cares about us ?

Now guys, I’m self employed making at most $50,000 pa. Conservative values. There are a lot of people around on lowish incomes like me who vote conservative and admire

And there are some people who take smack, even though it’s detrimental to their health.

Fulvio Sammut
Guest

I know full well how hard it is, I did it for forty years of my life.

It didn’t turn my brain into such mush that I admired a shallow charlatan like Abbott or voted conservative.

jules
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prettyone

[There are a lot of people around on lowish incomes like me who vote conservative and admire Tony Abbott.]

Admire him all you like, i doubt he gives a shit about you. If you earn what you say and live like you claim then its against your own best interests to vote for him, no matter how much you admire him.

Also if you’re up for it why do you admire him (I promise I won;t laugh if you answer, tho others might.)

bemused
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Fulvio Sammut@1550

Yes, you are quite right, I didn’t see that on my initial reading.

That at least is something to be grateful for.

While the Abbott gang might order worse, I am not sure the Navy would implement the order.

Fulvio Sammut
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Yes, you are quite right, I didn’t see that on my initial reading.

That at least is something to be grateful for.

prettyone
Guest

“Yes, and they are often the idiot children of wealthy over-indulgent parents who have bought them the job”

I don’t think you understand the concept of working for yourself. It’s not easy and there’s ups and downs, no sick leave, no 4 week ARL, and Christmas time often brings dow time.
It’s harder than you might think.

bemused
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Fulvio Sammut@1544 Bemused, where in that article posted by Victoria does it say shots were fired in the air? It is, indeed an unsourced allegation, but until it is refuted by the government there is nothing else to go by. What has the Government got to hide? Right here: [A local police commissioner from southern Java, who did not want his name or his district published, has told Fairfax Media that villagers plucked a number of asylum seekers from the water a week ago, on January 8, after their boat was turned back by Australia. The officer, quoting one of… Read more »
Fulvio Sammut
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Yes, and they are often the idiot children of wealthy over-indulgent parents who have bought them the job.

prettyone
Guest

AA, you really think a reptilian shit like Abbott cares about us ?

Now guys, I’m self employed making at most $50,000 pa. Conservative values. There are a lot of people around on lowish incomes like me who vote conservative and admire Tony Abbott.

leone
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The navy has fired on an unarmed asylum seeker boat before – in October 2001. The boat was the SIEV4, the boat involved in the infamous chlidren overboard affair. Abbott copies everything Howard did. Howard was happy for the navy to fire warning shots into the water near an unarmed asylum seeker boat with women and children on board.If Howard thought it was fine to fire on an unarmed boat then Abbott will do the same. [After telephone conversations with, and approval from, Commander Joint Task Force 639, I commenced action to compel the SIEV to heave-to to allow my… Read more »
Fulvio Sammut
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Bemused, where in that article posted by Victoria does it say shots were fired in the air?

It is, indeed an unsourced allegation, but until it is refuted by the government there is nothing else to go by.

What has the Government got to hide?

jules
Guest

I heard they torpedoed the boats and released flying piranhas to mop up the survivors.

AA @ 1531 if plants have “an intrinsic ability to process information … that allows optimal decisions about future activities in a given environment.” That would certainly indicate that Sean could benefit from their skills. Tho he could be someone having a laugh and illustrating Poe’s Law.

confessions
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[They will be seen to have bottomed during the term of the Labor Government…now on the rise everywhere.]

Yep.

My own view is the govt will talk about boats early in its term and switch to more substantive matters in the coming years.

I just hope that the impressions being formed on the new govt and the PM are lasting, and that people hold their views as the years march on.

Strong UnionsStrongCountry
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Strong UnionsStrongCountry

night all.

I’ve put on some music for the plants in the hope it will increase their intelligence. Sean should try the same for himself

deblonay
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Acerbic Conehead
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Fran,

[PO
Those kind of assertions would be treason, in my books.

Which books would they be?]

Her books of nursery rhymes. Still at that stage unfortunately.

http://www.powerfulwords.info/nursery_rhymes/remember_remember_the_5th_november.htm

bryon
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Re 1402. A friend of fathers reckoned he was ordered fire off the loaded torpedo tubes on the Canberra as the expected to sink and when he followed their tracks he realised one had hit the USS Chicago. So who knows but would be sweet revenge if the woz da Bagley wat hit the Canberra.

Strong UnionsStrongCountry
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Strong UnionsStrongCountry

The trouble we have in Australia is that our super rich, Gina/Twiggy/Palmer, are really not really that clever.

No offence meant but you don’t have to be clever to keep digging holes.

Really smart types would see the money to be made by investing in renewable energy. Those holes can only be dug so deep before there is nothing left to dig

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