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Federal Politics 2013-

Apr 10, 2014

BludgerTrack: 50.0-50.0

The Coalition lead in Newspoll causes the two parties to reach parity on the BludgerTrack poll aggregate, while Tony Abbott pulls ahead of Bill Shorten on net approval.

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New results from Newspoll, Essential Research and Morgan has put BludgerTrack back to the position of two-party parity it was at three weeks ago, after which Labor was up to 51.8% and then 50.9%. They have also ironed out the brief slump recorded by the Greens last week, who have progressed from 11.3% to 8.9% to 10.4%. This week’s gain has come entirely at the expense of Labor, with the Coalition vote unchanged. On the seat projection, the Coalition is back in majority government territory, the meter having ticked in their favour by two seats in New South Wales and one each in Queensland and Western Australia. After a quiet spot last week, new leadership figures have emerged from Newspoll and Essential Research, and they find Tony Abbott with a rare lead over Bill Shorten on net approval, although preferred prime minister remains in the stasis it assumed in early December.

Also note that coverage of the Western Australian Senate count is ongoing on the dedicated thread, with a Liberal victory in the final seat looking increasingly likely.

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mexicanbeemer
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On the PPL for all the talk that its needed around here in the land of BMW’s and Mercs the past few years have seen something of a baby boom, thus i question if its even needed to encourage women to have a bubs.

Access to child care and return to employment opportunities appear to be the big talking point around here.

Not the need for a hand-out from Tone & co

dave
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silmaj@2161 2159 He predicts doom every year. I guess one year he will get it right. Yes Indeed. The only thing is the “Sell in May and go away” thing is strongest in the second year of the US Presidential Cycle – ie this year. Doesn’t mean it will necessarily crash or go down etc – we will have to see – but the US markets have had a good run since 2009, due largely to QE and ultra low interest rates. US tech stocks are currently down 8% from early March highs and may well bounce in the coming… Read more »
imacca
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[ This applies at 65, 60 and even 55years as well. ] Luverly. So they can go on the DSP rather than the pension then. Of course when they get booted off that (Libs hate bludgers after all) they can divest themselves of any assets accumulated (savings, house, car. belongings……) while they were working in order to support themselves at poverty level until they qualify for a pension at 70. Good time to be a cashed up spiv who can buy up distressed assets for a song wot?? And why not raise the GST as well so they can get… Read more »
imacca
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[ where the individual determines whether or not the statement was offensive ]

Very stupid even for you Mod, and its not even a comment related to the NBN where you have form for plumbing the depths of kool aid sucking idiocy.

At the moment its the court who determines if the statement was offensive, not the individual who claims of be offended. Unless you’d like to have a situation where individuals make a determination at law that we all should abide by? Jeez, we’d all have to be named Brandis for that wouldn’t we?? 🙂

dave
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AussieAchmed@2151

After seeing how WA has been treated in the GST amount of share it gets being constantly downwards, it will be a hard sell to convince the state that it should also share the revenue from mining etc

On that basis – there would also be little point of increasing the GST – as it would go elsewhere?

Sandgropers decide ? But they already did again, recently.

zoidlord
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Can LNP get lower than 40 primary?

GhostWhoVotes ‏@GhostWhoVotes 27m

#Nielsen Poll Primary Votes: L/NP 40 (-4) ALP 34 (-1) GRN 17 (+5) #auspol

Puff, the Magic Dragon.
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Puff, the Magic Dragon.
briefly, I am in a similar position to you, due to not being able to access the workforce while caring for a large family while trying to access the university education denied me when I was younger and living in a remote rural location. Then as a mother of five kids, I could not apply more lucrative positions interstate. Then I had to take part time work as I became a carer, at well below my previous salary. I ended up with little super, a medical condition, a house and scratching for funds to maintain it. Over fifty I don’t… Read more »
bemused
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briefly@2157 I am in the highly regrettable position of having almost no super and only the most modest of incomes. As a consequence of various crimes and acts of greed committed against me and my then-family, I lost nearly all my assets, including my share of my house and savings and nearly all my possessions. This coincided with a quite protracted period of illness from which I’ve only recently recovered. This illness really affected my ability to bring in much of an income, so now I have to face the prospect of working for as long as I possibly can… Read more »
sprocket_
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[GhostWhoVotes ‏@GhostWhoVotes 3m
#Nielsen Poll 2 Party Preferred: L/NP 48 (-3) ALP 52 (+3) #auspol]

Last Neilsen was a rogue

Sustainable future
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[2097
Bushfire Bill
Posted Sunday, April 13, 2014 at 7:24 pm | PERMALINK
Talk about chutzpah!

Joe Hockey hasn’t even gone through his first Budget yet and he’s already lecturing the G20 on their allegedly shabby economic performance.

It is “unacceptable” says Joe.

Who the f*ck does this bloke think he is?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/13/joe-hockey-lambasts-slow-economic-growth-by-g20-states%5D

He thinks he is the next PM of Australia. When Abbott implodes within he next 18 months, sloppy will be there. He’ll look competent in comparison.

sprocket_
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[GhostWhoVotes ‏@GhostWhoVotes 1m
#Nielsen Poll Primary Votes: L/NP 40 (-4) ALP 34 (-1) GRN 17 (+5) #auspol]

silmaj
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2159
He predicts doom every year. I guess one year he will get it right.

sprocket_
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Clive Palmer is in fine form tonight – giving Newman some LNP love

[Clive Palmer ‏@CliveFPalmer 2m
@theqldpremier is lying about the state’s debt. He wants to sell schools and hospitals to his mates. #qldpol]

deblonay
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Brace Yourself
____________
Dr Marc Faber,”Dr Doom” to US investors…who predicted some earlier crashes.. says we are on the verge of a bigger US crash than that of 2008,ehich will trigger an even bigger Recession next year

sprocket_
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Does the Professor have some inside info?

[Clive Palmer ‏@CliveFPalmer 12s
@theqldpremier planning early election. Spending plenty of taxpayer money on advertising. #qldpol]

briefly
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I am in the highly regrettable position of having almost no super and only the most modest of incomes. As a consequence of various crimes and acts of greed committed against me and my then-family, I lost nearly all my assets, including my share of my house and savings and nearly all my possessions. This coincided with a quite protracted period of illness from which I’ve only recently recovered. This illness really affected my ability to bring in much of an income, so now I have to face the prospect of working for as long as I possibly can –… Read more »
Just Me
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[As William Blum said, trickle down economics is:

the principle that the poor, who must subsist on table scraps dropped by the rich, can best be served by giving the rich bigger meals.]

AKA, the ‘golden shower’ theory of economics.

Strong UnionsStrongCountry
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Strong UnionsStrongCountry

I like this quote from Hansard. Misleading the Parliament is grounds for censure, and if proven for a minister, standing down.

Wouldn’t it be good if we had an ethical and moral media that would use the same language about Abbott as they did with Gillard.

frednk
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[
AussieAchmed
Posted Sunday, April 13, 2014 at 8:50 pm | Permalink

After seeing how WA has been treated in the GST amount of share it gets being constantly downwards, it will be a hard sell to convince the state that it should also share the revenue from mining etc
]
WA; the eastern states prop them up for decades; they have a mining boom and they start whinging because they have to pay a bit back.

deblonay
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The major US Journal “Counterpunch” looks at Bob Carr’s attack on Gillard and the Jewish Lobby
___________________________
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/04/11/the-zionist-lobby-under-fire-in-oz/

sprocket_
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I like this quote from Hansard. Misleading the Parliament is grounds for censure, and if proven for a minister, standing down.

http://twitpic.com/e116cr

Strong UnionsStrongCountry
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Strong UnionsStrongCountry

After seeing how WA has been treated in the GST amount of share it gets being constantly downwards, it will be a hard sell to convince the state that it should also share the revenue from mining etc

sprocket_
Guest

the truth of the matter is the Abbott and his cohort would be happy to get only 1 piece of legislation through the Parliament, ie the Budget.

The rest they would be happy to be held by the Senate, so they can blame them for the downward spiral in living standards.

The Treasury Benches are more than enough to prosecute the culture wars, and reward the rent seeking backers.

PPL? nobody cares, not even Abbott who dreamt this up in conversation with his daughters

briefly
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[2146 AussieAchmed So with the plan to repeal the MRRT will the Liberals also repeal the PRRT?] Those parts of the MRRT relating to iron ore and coal are to be repealed, but the part relating to coal seam gas will not. The question of resource taxation, royalties, State finance and inter-state fiscal relations should be re-visited. Even the LNP might be willing to do this if it were considered alongside the GST. Personally, I think if resource profits tax were treated as a permanent source of State income, to be shared between the States in the same way as… Read more »
Thomas. Paine.
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retirement age – should be 110+ or for as long as anybody wants and somebody is willing to employ them. Pension age….age when pension can be accessed for those that do not have the ability to fund themselves, and asset/means tested, and mentally and physically capable….can be extended to 70 gradually. Retirement age, access to self funded pension should remain at 55 since that as against the pension age 67-70 gives greater incentive for people to aim for self funded retirement. Also self funded retirees will continue to input to the economy from their own accrued resources. However increasing the… Read more »
frednk
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Good point; pity the Liberals have messed with the forces so badly that it can be made.

https://twitter.com/geeksrulz/status/455282409768898560/photo/1

Strong UnionsStrongCountry
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Strong UnionsStrongCountry

So with the plan to repeal the MRRT will the Liberals also repeal the PRRT?

silmaj
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2135
That would work if pay rises were capped, but I couldn’t see that happening. To my knowledge govt has never assisted in paying business superannuation expenses. With the economy now becoming more global loading up tax, super and wage increases on Aus business will end up with only a negative result.

briefly
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Re 2129/Everything

Anyone interested in this matter can read the judgment:

http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/cth/FCA/2011/1103.html?stem=0&synonyms=0&query=andrew%20bolt

At paragraphs 19-20, the Judge makes clear that an objective standard is to be applied in determining whether expressions may be found to be offensive, insulting or humiliating, and elaborates on the what the test is and how it is to be interpreted.

frednk
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[
AussieAchmed
Posted Sunday, April 13, 2014 at 8:26 pm | Permalink

In May 2013 Palmer had a $6.2 million mining tax bill he refused to pay….
]

He has paid it.

ruawake
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[In May 2013 Palmer had a $6.2 million mining tax bill he refused to pay….]

Wasn’t that Carbon Tax?

Centre
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Mod Lib

The older you get, the less likely you will be fit enough, healthy enough and productive enough to work.

It’s called keeping it real 😉

You just want them off the aged pension and on to unemployment benefits don’t you – what a kind guy 😆

Strong UnionsStrongCountry
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Strong UnionsStrongCountry
frednk
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[
briefly
Posted Sunday, April 13, 2014 at 8:19 pm | Permalink

….

“Should it be unlawful to offend someone, where the individual determines whether or not the statement was offensive”

In this case, your answer would be consistent with the existing law.
]
The judge decides; who other than the offended should bring the case; a flying pink fairy?

Strong UnionsStrongCountry
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Strong UnionsStrongCountry

In May 2013 Palmer had a $6.2 million mining tax bill he refused to pay….

daretotread
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Everything

If you had asked me just 12 months ago I would probably arrogantly and pompously say that “I will work to 70 etc”

However in the last year, of my 60s acquaintances I have encountered four cancers, two heart attacks, one stroke, two autoimmune, one parkinsons, macular degeneration, motor neurone. Now yes I am starting to face the
reality of impending death. Somehow working till I am 70 just does not seem quite the ideal.

Strong UnionsStrongCountry
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Strong UnionsStrongCountry

I think Hockey and Abbott have a nerve talking about cutting pensions, increasing the pension age, cutting disability, stopping payments to orphans while supporting the theft of taxpayer money through FBT rorts, claiming the end to the Age of Entitlement while paying Cadbury $16million, mining company subsidies $4billion and Manly RL club $10 million.

ruawake
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[Who would pay for the nearly doubling of the levy?]

The old age pension would not need to be paid. So a Govt proportion, then as Keating did pay rises traded off for super.

Cost to taxpayer, next to nothing. Cost to business nothing.

Utopia
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[Centre
Posted Sunday, April 13, 2014 at 8:17 pm | PERMALINK
Everything

It depends on the individual.

Many people at 70 are not fit enough or healthy enough to be productive in the workforce.]

This applies at 65, 60 and even 55years as well.

briefly
Guest

[2129
Everything

GhostWhoVotes ‏@GhostWhoVotes 48m
#Nielsen Poll Should it be lawful to offend, insult or humiliate someone based on race: No 88 #auspol

I would have answered “no” to this question as well. However, what should have been asked is:

“Should it be unlawful to offend someone, where the individual determines whether or not the statement was offensive”

My answer would be “no”]

In this case, your answer would be consistent with the existing law.

ruawake
Guest

Has Hockey released his G20 homework on how he will increase GDP by 2% over normal yet? Or is he just slagging others who have followed his lead?

silmaj
Guest

2128
Who would pay for the nearly doubling of the levy?

Centre
Guest

Everything

It depends on the individual.

Many people at 70 are not fit enough or healthy enough to be productive in the workforce.

Sure, if somebody is active and productive enough at 70 to work and wants to work – by all means go for it.

But to push people to work until they drop is disgraceful.

Unemployment benefits are obviously less than the Aged Pension.

And you obviously support it – SHAME!

Utopia
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[GhostWhoVotes ‏@GhostWhoVotes 48m
#Nielsen Poll Should it be lawful to offend, insult or humiliate someone based on race: No 88 #auspol]

I would have answered “no” to this question as well. However, what should have been asked is:

“Should it be unlawful to offend someone, where the individual determines whether or not the statement was offensive”

My answer would be “no”

ruawake
Guest

Hockey has made a powerful argument for increasing the superannuation guarantee levy, I doubt he realises it yet. Every issue he raises re pensions will be “cured” with a 17.5% levy.

The Govt will save billions at 20%. Shame the Libs are ideologically opposed to user pays pensions.

Utopia
Guest

ruawake:

You still haven’t answered…..is moving the retirement age to 70 years a good idea or not?

Centre
Guest

New2This

What about Hockey lecturing people that actually know something about economics with three word slogans?

What an embarrassment!

New2This
Guest

Bit touchy Centre…

Centre
Guest

What about this New2This?

Abbott doing good job, PPL great policy, PBers give him belly ache?

He even makes Joe Conomics sound as if he knows what he’s talking about!

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