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We’re now at the end of a two-week period where Essential Research has furnished the only new federal poll results, causing its reading of the situation to loom unusually large in the BludgerTrack poll aggregate. This week’s sample produced a fairly close result, so Labor is down half a point on two-party preferred and three on the seat projection, losing one in Queensland and two in Western Australia, where it may be coming back to earth after the state election bounce. Nothing new this week on leadership ratings.

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  1. phoenixRED

    Investigation Breaks Trump As He Uses Twitter Like a Teenager’s Personal Journal

    Trump used Twitter like a teenager’s personal journal again, a problem for his lawyers and his own defense. This is called “flunking the investigation.”

    There are reports that he randomly bursts out with off topic declarations of, ‘I’m not under investigation!’ This awkward obsession with denial only serves to conjure up Nixon, which isn’t helpful.

    This is your president, flunking an investigation. One of the most important issues here isn’t just how Trump is undermining himself, but his lack of impulse control and his failure to understand basic concepts of public relations and presidential power. Hes undermining himself right now, but he’s also undermining the US.

    http://www.politicususa.com/2017/06/16/donald-trump-twitter-high-school-girls-personal-journal.html

  2. phoenixRED

    Mike Pence Calls Hiring A Criminal Defense Lawyer Routine As Russia Scandal Denial Grows

    The White House appears to be in total denial about the severity of the Russia scandal, as Vice President Mike Pence called his move to hire a criminal defense attorney very routine.

    As the head of the transition team, Pence is a key figure in at least the Mike Flynn part of the Russia scandal. If Pence were innocent, he wouldn’t need a lawyer, and if the Vice President didn’t think that any crimes were committed, he wouldn’t need a criminal defense attorney.

    http://www.politicususa.com/2017/06/16/mike-pence-calls-hiring-criminal-defense-lawyer-routine-russia-scandal-denial-grows.html

  3. phoenixRED

    Adam Schiff Just Signaled That All Hell Will Break Loose If Trump Fires Rosenstein And Mueller

    Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA), the ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee just hinted at the constitutional crisis that will occur if Trump fires the Deputy Attorney General and the Special Counsel.

    The reality is that if Trump pulls his own Saturday Night Massacre, Republicans aren’t going to have any choice but to do something to reinstate the independent investigation. Speaker Ryan and Majority Leader McConnell will have to choose between protecting Trump now or going down with the ship in 2018.

    http://www.politicususa.com/2017/06/16/adam-schiff-signaled-hell-break-loose-trump-fires-rosenstein-mueller.html

  4. phoenixRED

    ‘Has anyone read him his Miranda rights?’: White House aides furious that Trump won’t remain silent

    President Donald Trump’s advisers are in anguish over the chief executive’s inability to control himself and not further complicate the multiple federal investigations engulfing the White House by tweeting or attacking other public figures.

    The Daily Beast said Friday that Trump’s decision to lash out at Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein on Twitter Friday morning is yet another example of the president acting rashly and undercutting the defense being spun for him in the media by his surrogates. At this point, administration aides and advisers are joking about ways to keep the president quiet.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/has-anyone-read-him-his-miranda-rights-white-house-aides-furious-that-trump-wont-remain-silent/

  5. Dan Gulberry

    When your lawyer hires his own lawyer, you know you’re in trouble.

    President Donald Trump’s longtime attorney and adviser Michael Cohen has hired a lawyer to represent him in the investigations into Russian meddling in the 2016 election, Cohen told CNN on Friday.
    Cohen, who serves as Trump’s personal attorney, hired Stephen Ryan, a partner at the DC-based law firm McDermott, Will and Emery, to handle inquiries related to the investigations into Russian meddling in the election. News of the hire comes two weeks after Cohen was subpoenaed by the House intelligence committee as part of the committee’s probe into Russian meddling in the 2016 election.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/16/politics/michael-cohen-hires-attorney-russia-investigations/index.html

  6. phoenixRED

    Trump’s personal lawyer hires his own lawyer to help deal with Russia probe

    ichael Cohen, a longtime personal attorney for President Donald Trump, has hired an attorney of his own to help him deal with the probe into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.

    As reported by NBC News’ Katy Tur, Cohen has hired attorney Stephen Ryan, of the first McDermott, Will & Emery to serve as his personal counsel in all matters related to the Russia investigation.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/trumps-personal-lawyer-hires-his-own-lawyer-to-help-deal-with-russia-probe/

  7. lizzie

    Bulldozing public housing on inner-city estates and rebuilding it alongside private apartments to create a better “social mix” has instead concentrated disadvantage while rewarding developers and the state government, research has found.

    Redevelopment of the Carlton public housing estate from 2005 handed at least $300 million in revenue to developers while also probably lifting property values in surrounding streets.

    But a new Melbourne University paper has found the redevelopment comprehensively failed to better integrate public and private residents – who rarely mix.

    “The social-mix approach to inner-city estate redevelopments in Australia is driven more by an imperative to capitalise on the sale of public land than it is to assist public tenants,” it finds.


    The paper finds that the policy of “improving social mix” on public housing estates has been used as a way of covering up the politically unacceptable practice of displacing tenants and selling the land they lived on to developers.

    http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/social-mix-approach-to-public-housing-is-failing-research-finds-20170616-gwsj3m.html

  8. phoenixRED

    Unconfirmed story by Claude Taylor that Steve Bannon under investigation for obstruction and physically threatening White House staff

    At this point it’s believed that the Special Counsel investigation into Donald Trump and his associates is now focused on Trump himself along with Jared Kushner, Michael Flynn, Carter Page, and Paul Manafort, among others. Vice President Mike Pence, and Trump’s own personal attorney Michael Cohen, have each hired attorneys to personally represent them in the scandal in the past twenty-four hours. And numerous other Trump advisers and associates are being called to testify about the scandal before Congress. And now we have this new report that Steve Bannon is also among those under investigation.

  9. lizzie

    “The eye opener as an international lawyer has been realising how isolated and exceptionalist Australia is in relation to human rights issues – that we do not see things through the prism of rights and freedoms,” she says.

    http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/lauded-and-vilified-gillian-triggs-australian-human-rights-commission-president-20170616-gwsk3b.html

  10. don

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    zoomster @ #1333 Friday, June 16, 2017 at 9:05 pm
    Don
    the best birds I ever had were a pair of nesting kingfishers. They would not tolerate another bird in their vicinity. For year after year, I had cherries and strawberries by the bucketload — and then one summer, the kingfishers vanished.
    I now have lots and lots of birds but no cherries or strawberries…
    ***************
    .
    We have both, but we net them. I have espaliered the cherries on an east facing brick wall, and fix the net to the top of the wall and hang it down over the cherries. Easy to put up and take down. Similarly with the strawberries, in semi circular pots on the chook house run, with nets fixed above them. We get several kilos of cherries every year, and lots of strawberries.

  11. shellbell

    Contempt is a criminal matter dealt with in civil way.

    There won’t be any arrests.

    If convicted only a fine is likely

  12. lizzie

    Australia has been ranked 39 out of 41 high- and middle-income countries in achieving quality education, in the latest international report to find that the country is falling behind in basic measures of teaching and learning.

    Only Romania and Turkey were ranked below Australia in education in the latest United Nations Children’s Fund (UNICEF) report card.

    http://www.theage.com.au/national/education/un-agency-ranks-australia-39-out-of-41-countries-for-quality-education-20170615-gwrt9u.html

  13. Marty

    Diogenes
    Friday, June 16, 2017 at 9:15 pm
    Shining Path, the Marxist terrorist organisation in Peru, killed 69,000 people.
    Still, some have said this polystyrene cladding is going to be the 21st century asbestos. I can’t believe the building codes are so pathetic.

    That’s not true. up to 70,000 people died in internal conflict in Peru, and Shining Path are responsible for many of them, including the massacre of 69 people in Huancasancos (18 children).

    However, like other South American guerrilla conflicts, the military and right wing death squads were active participants, killing the majority of victims, such as the 123 people murdered at the village of Putis in 1984.

  14. Marty

    CTar1
    Friday, June 16, 2017 at 10:51 pm
    Havachat

    What I find totally bizarre about dumpf being potus is that if anyone wanted to get a job in sensitive areas of the government we would have to have security clearances requiring whole of life plus our families and friends possibly undergoing whole of life checks.

    I don’believe that our Federal politicians are subject to the equivalent of standard govt APS staff checks.

    It’s my understanding that the US President is exempt from security checks precisely so that the FBI can not block someone they don’t approve of from taking the office.

  15. BK

    Good morning Dawn Patrollers.

    Things must be getting on top of Trump. He’s gone berserk on Twitter again!
    http://www.smh.com.au/world/latest-donald-trump-twitter-tirade-appears-to-confirm-hes-under-investigation-20170616-gwt08j.html
    Ten years on from the GFC and the world still suffers from a debt overhang. There are some quite concerning outlooks in this article.
    http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/10-years-since-the-gfc-20170526-gwe5f2.html
    Jess Irvine opines that strong jobs growth has taken further interest rate cuts off the RBA’s table.
    http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/strong-jobs-growth-takes-interest-rate-cuts-off-table-20170616-gwsj73.html
    Michael Pascoe writes that the Law of Unintended Consequences does not sleep. The Australian Prudential Regulation Authority’s crackdown on real estate lending by the banks it regulates is driving business to the financiers it does not regulate.
    http://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/apra-crackdown-is-good-news-for-some-lenders-20170615-gws8na.html
    Richard Denniss on how our politicians have made a meal of energy policy.
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/making-a-meal-out-of-energy-policy-20170616-gwsit6.html
    Peter Hartcher says that we have produced a political class that prefers to play petty games of tribalism and indulge the fantasy constructs of ideology ahead of making the electricity work. And, unless something profound changes in the weeks ahead, that’s exactly where the Coalition government and the Labor opposition are taking us.
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/parties-to-blame-when-the-lights-go-out-20170616-gwsti4.html
    Phil Coorey says that every galah in the pet shop is an energy expert. He gives Bernardi and his right wing cohort a good little kick. Google.
    /news/every-galah-in-the-pet-shop-is-now-an-energy-expert-20170614-gwrfb9
    Karen Middleton and the politics of the Finkel review.
    https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/economy/2017/06/17/the-politics-the-finkel-review/14976216004795
    The Grenfell Tower death doll climbs to 30 (with 76 now said to be missing) and May has “Shame on you” shouted at her as she finally met some residents. She’s history!
    http://www.smh.com.au/world/london-inferno-death-toll-up-to-30-as-police-announce-criminal-investigation-20170616-gwszca.html
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/16/theresa-may-scared-grenfell-survivors-finished-austerity-cameron-osborne

  16. BK

    Section 2 . . .

    Protests are kicking off in London over the fire. Here’s a live update.
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2017/jun/16/grenfell-tower-fire-london-police-criminal-investigation-into-tragedy-latest-updates
    Have aesthetics trumped safety? Google.
    /news/inquirer/aesthetics-put-before-safety-say-residents/news-story/83fa029a0647560cf6ca1a8c8a2fd270
    The Australian’s Rick Morton writes that the deadly Grenfell Tower fire is expected to finally prompt action on Australian residential towers covered in flammable cladding, with owners liable for multi-million-dollar remediation bills and facing a drop in their property values, an expert says. Google.
    /national-affairs/state-politics/london-fire-aluminium-cladding-hit-to-local-property-prices/news-story/9d364f30ca31ebc67f0627be9a1ecae0
    Amazon.com will acquire Whole Foods Market in a $US13.7 billion ($18 billion) bombshell of a deal that catapults the e-commerce giant into the supermarket business with hundreds of stores across the US. Who knows what this will do to the retail landscape.
    http://www.smh.com.au/business/amazon-to-acquire-whole-foods-in-137-billion-bet-on-groceries-20170616-gwszu9.html
    Turnbull once declared he joined the Liberal party instead of Labor only because his business background would limit his success in the ALP, a former NSW minister Carl Scully claims.
    http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/carl-scully-describes-conversation-with-malcolm-turnbull-in-new-memoir-20170616-gwsi8l.html
    Jessica Valenti in the US writes “In a time when shootings are commonplace, this week didn’t necessarily feel remarkable. It felt normal and that makes me fear for my daughter.”
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2017/jun/16/us-shootings-virginia-san-francisco-normal
    The ABC’s Red Symonds is in hot water with the Race Discrimination Commissioner.
    http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/whats-the-deal-with-asians-red-symons-under-fire-over-controversial-interview-20170615-gws9av.html
    Three Turnbull government ministers have failed to apologise to the Victorian court of appeal for comments describing judges as “hard-left activists”, “divorced from reality,” and conducting an “ideological experiment”.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jun/16/federal-ministers-fail-to-apology-for-attack-on-hard-left-judges

  17. BK

    Section 3 . . .

    Josh Bernstein says that our politicians show an alarming ignorance of the separation of powers.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/16/our-politicians-show-an-alarming-ignorance-of-the-separation-of-powers
    The US has sold Qatar $12 billion worth of fighter jets days after Trump accused it of being a “high-level” sponsor of terror.
    https://independentaustralia.net/article-display/trump-calls-qatar-a-funder-of-terrorism-then-sells-them-12bn-in-fighter-jets,10407
    The government might get Gonski 2.01 through the Senate with the help of a the somewhat fractured Greens and a significant trove of changes. It old almost take education off the table as an issue for the next election.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/government-in-secret-bid-to-secure-gonski-deal-20170616-gwsaku.html
    According to Clancy Yeates Treasury assumed banks would pass on some of the $6.2 billion bank tax to their customers when it was costing the policy, despite the government urging lenders to “absorb” the levy.
    http://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/macquaries-nicholas-moore-says-were-not-a-major-bank-as-normally-understood-20170615-gws982.html
    A proposal to have Peta Credlin address a Liberal function in Victoria on the subject of party values was kiboshed on the basis that her contribution would be controversial and unhelpful. How precious!
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jun/16/peta-credlin-deemed-too-controversial-to-address-liberal-function
    Sally McManus has penned an article on the cruelty of penalty rate cuts.
    http://www.theage.com.au/comment/the-cruelty-of-penalty-rate-cuts-20170616-gwsfsk.html
    The Alex Maley CPA protection racket. Google.
    /business/accounting/joe-aston-on-alex-malley-20170616-gwsgft
    This SMH editorial says that there is still hope for a satisfactory outcome from the Finkel report and that if Labor and Turnbull could accommodate an agreed proposal it could see off Abbott.
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/smh-editorial/a-compromise-can-still-break-through-the-fog-of-climate-change-policy-20170616-gwsgyi.html
    The Australian reports that Pauline Hanson withdrew from a political party established in her name after transferring more than $200,000 from its main bank ¬account and sacking the ¬office bearers who complained that she had no right to the money, newly ¬uncovered records show. Google.
    /national-affairs/pauline-hanson-took-200000-from-former-united-australia-party/news-story/21415f95993381afd723b338599f7606

  18. BK

    Section 4 . . .

    Jack Waterford has a contribution on how member-elected political leaders like Jeremy Corbyn can see “beyond the caucus wall”. Quite interesting.
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/memberelected-leaders-like-jeremy-corbyn-can-see-beyond-the-caucus-wall-20170616-gwsb79.html
    For those who think Donald Trump will “get away with it”, James McArdle offers a salutary tale from Australian history – Joh Bjelke-Petersen.
    https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/president-trump-and-premier-sir-joh-who-says-comparisons-are-odious,10406
    Jay Weatherill, you’ve gotta be joking! How on earth could this happen? Google.
    /national-affairs/health/ambus-too-big-for-royal-adelaide-hospital-dock/news-story/462f27d4a7d6cc442047b3291ffd2ea2
    Norm Abjorensen gives us something to think about as he refers to a book on tyranny to look at how thinks could pan out in the US’s Age of Trump.
    http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/books/timothy-snyders-book-on-tyranny-is-grim-reading-in-the-trump-era-20170616-gwslkh.html
    “Why is it that the louder a Christian politician talks about their faith the more conservative they seem to be?” asks Toni Hassan. It’s well worth a read.
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/left-behind-progressive-australians-reluctance-to-talk-religion-20170616-gwsmv6.html
    Crispin Hull writes that minimum wage earners are knocking at the door of the 34.5% marginal taxation rate and asks how it happened.
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/minimumwage-earners-are-now-taxed-a-third-of-their-extra-income-how-did-this-happen-20170615-gws9xr.html
    Staff at Network Ten have been told by Korda Mentha the “not order anything”.
    http://www.smh.com.au/business/media-and-marketing/network-ten-staff-told-not-to-order-anything-as-administration-process-takes-hold-20170616-gwsjsz.html
    Jacqui Maley is less than happy that the government will not release the content of any public consultation submissions in the determination of what will be the “Australian values” to which new Australian will have to align.
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/citizenship-test-are-you-aligned-with-australian-values-20170615-gwrvhi.html
    And Paul Bongiorno gets stuck into the citizenship opportunism being displayed.
    https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/opinion/topic/2017/06/17/citizenship-opportunism/14976216004789

  19. Marty

    @Zoomster
    regarding drug testing of welfare recipients

    Or do the Greens think they know everything already and so they don’t need to actually talk to the people who do?

    I’m not a member of the Greens, but perhaps Siewert believes that it is morally indefensible to subject welfare recipients to dehumanising and intrusive drug testing in order to satisfy the whims of voters?

  20. BK

    Section 5 . . .,

    For Tony Abbott: a guide to generosity for the morally bankrupt.
    https://independentaustralia.net/australia/australia-display/for-tony-abbott-a-guide-to-generosity-for-the-morally-bankrupt,10405
    Andrew Denton on the religious lobby against assisted dying.
    https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/opinion/topic/2017/06/17/the-religious-lobbby-against-assisted-dying/14976216004799
    Stephen Koukoulas rubs Abbott’s nose into his stance on debt by revisiting an article he wrote in 2013.
    https://thekouk.com/item/513-tony-abbott-and-debt.html
    Tony Wright calls BS on the “off the record” nature of the midyear ball.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/off-the-record-this-is-a-confected-nonsense-20170616-gwsj0v.html
    Peter FitzSimons gives Turnbull top marks for his Trump parody.
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/fitz-files-full-marks-to-turnbull-for-his-trump-routine-20170616-gwssqa.html
    A brawl is building inside the Turnbull government over the creation of a British-style Home Office that would bring together major intelligence, police and security agencies. We’ll have to wait and see until Turnbull announces his much-vaunted ministry changes.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/coalition-brawl-over-britishstyle-home-office-deepens-as-december-reshuffle-looms-20170616-gwsie9.html
    The US will tell dozens of refugees held in PNG’s Manus Island detention centre whether they will be offered resettlement in America within six weeks.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/us-to-notify-manus-island-detainees-about-their-fate-within-six-weeks-20170616-gwsrig.html
    Tony Wright farewells his colleague Michael Gordon.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tributes-flow-as-michael-gordon-a-giant-of-journalism-and-the-most-decent-of-men-departs-the-age-20170614-gwqoyy.html
    Here is what might be Michael Gordon’s last contribution. He looks closely at Gillian Triggs’ time as Human Rights Commissioner.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/lauded-and-vilified-gillian-triggs-australian-human-rights-commission-president-20170616-gwsk3b.html
    Mike Seccombe tells us that a hardline Christian is hoping to replace Triggs. FFS!
    https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/2017/06/17/hardline-christian-hoping-replace-triggs/14976216004801

  21. BK

    Section 6 . . . Cartoon Corner

    Ron Tandberg and the potential for another super-ministry.
    https://www.fairfaxstatic.com.au/content/dam/images/g/w/s/w/f/b/image.related.articleLeadNarrow.300×0.gwsie9.png/1497608700152.jpg
    John Shakespeare looks at bracket creep.
    https://www.fairfaxstatic.com.au/content/dam/images/g/w/g/0/i/b/image.related.articleLeadNarrow.300×0.gws9xr.png/1497595398463.jpg
    Shakespeare despairs over our politicians’ behaviour.
    https://www.fairfaxstatic.com.au/content/dam/images/g/w/s/t/g/8/image.related.articleLeadwide.620×349.gwsti4.png/1497631865240.jpg
    Alan Moir beautifully captures the trouble Trump is in.
    https://www.fairfaxstatic.com.au/content/dam/images/g/w/s/q/u/6/image.related.wideLandscape.460×259.gws049.png/1497625649894.jpg
    More from Moir as he declares that Abbott is back.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCZMEgZVwAApGk8.jpg
    David Rowe and the vaudeville show that our government currently is.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCbCS3nUMAMcljs.jpg
    Ron Tandberg and Abbott’s parliamentary silence.
    https://www.fairfaxstatic.com.au/content/dam/images/g/w/g/0/a/4/image.gallery.landscape.620×413.fixc.png/1497571229720.jpg
    Mark Knight take Turnbull into the Washington Comedy Club.
    http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/d2d3ae3ec0f2adf332c7e79c63fbd2f0?width=1024
    David Pope nicely conflates climate policy with the Grenfell Tower fire.
    http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/david-pope-20120214-1t3j0
    Jon Kudelka reckons Turnbull’s in the clear after his Trump parody.
    http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/9fe37b57e7e413d60ded92b96eb7e580

  22. lizzie

    How low have we fallen?

    Mr Turnbull increasingly relies on Mr Dutton and Finance Minister Mathias Cormann, for political advice and to protect his conservative flank.

    http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/coalition-brawl-over-britishstyle-home-office-deepens-as-december-reshuffle-looms-20170616-gwsie9.html

  23. zoomster

    ‘“The social-mix approach to inner-city estate redevelopments in Australia is driven more by an imperative to capitalise on the sale of public land than it is to assist public tenants,” it finds.’

    I’m not surprised by this – the assumption that dropping low income people in amongst those with high incomes creates social harmony never seemed to make sense to me – but, to be fair to governments, social workers I know have been pushing this line for many years, arguing that it de-stigmatises social housing and that all developments should cater to a mix of incomes.

    But it’s a bit like why migrants tend to congregate in the same suburbs – people like being with people like themselves.

  24. zoomster

    Marty

    ‘I’m not a member of the Greens, but perhaps Siewert believes that it is morally indefensible to subject welfare recipients to dehumanising and intrusive drug testing in order to satisfy the whims of voters?’

    I’m sure Labor does, too. However, we’re better off approaching legislation on the subject armed with the facts.

    That Siewert rushes in to condemn the legislation without even seeing it means she’s grandstanding.

    As I said earlier, the Greens don’t need to talk to experts, they already know everything.

  25. Marty

    @Zoomster

    I’m not surprised by this – the assumption that dropping low income people in amongst those with high incomes creates social harmony never seemed to make sense to me – but, to be fair to governments, social workers I know have been pushing this line for many years, arguing that it de-stigmatises social housing and that all developments should cater to a mix of incomes.

    You’re probably right that dropping poor people into rich areas doesn’t have the effect its proponents argue. I think though that Grenfell was built in the 1970s when the disparity between rich and poor in London overall was nothing like it is today. Also, Chelsea was not a rich area then I think – even Notting Hill was primarily an Afro-Jamaican population with loads of cheap property to rent to punks (The Clash started there) and art students.

  26. sprocket_

    Trump shows his Obsessive Compulsive Disorder traits over being investigated for Russian connections

    “– White House aides are privately fretting to one another over Trump’s obsession with the probe, Politico’s Josh Dawsey reports: “Trump, for months, has bristled almost daily about the ongoing probes. He has sometimes, without prompting, injected ‘I’m not under investigation’ into conversations with associates and allies. He has watched hours of TV coverage every day — sometimes even storing morning news shows on his TiVo to watch in the evening — and complained nonstop. ‘It’s basically all he talks about on the phone,’ said one adviser. … Aides have tried to change the subject, with little luck. Two people close to Trump note that his is an obsessive personality [but staffers] say they fear his incendiary tweets and public comments have spurred ‘countless’ leaks of damaging information.”

  27. zoomster

    Don

    One of the nearby cherry farms is totally netted. Best cherries ever and damn cheap.

  28. zoomster

    Marty

    Discussion was about actions in Victoria, not the UK, although I’m sure much the same philosophy applied.

  29. Marty

    Zoomster

    ‘I’m sure Labor does, too. However, we’re better off approaching legislation on the subject armed with the facts.’

    I’m sure some in Labor do too.

    I hope to be proven wrong, but I suspect that the idea will be focus grouped and found to appeal to voters and reluctantly supported.

  30. Marty

    ‘Discussion was about actions in Victoria, not the UK, although I’m sure much the same philosophy applied.’

    Ah. Sorry.

    You’re right that the same principle applies. I think in Sydney there is/was a public housing tower block near Ultimo and Glebe, which is of course fabulously expensive now. See also Redfern, which was cheap in the 1970s and 1980s and is now gentrifying, with the previous public housing residents being moved to Macquarie Fields (far Western Sydney) and Wyong on the Central Coast.

    Can’t have poor folks cluttering up the place.

  31. zoomster

    Marty

    ‘I hope to be proven wrong, but I suspect that the idea will be focus grouped and found to appeal to voters and reluctantly supported.’

    I expect you’ll be proven wrong. However, if you are, it will be on the basis of the evidence collected through consultation with the stakeholders (it’s really hard to defend a position if you’ve talked with health professionals, for example, and they’ve given you their opinion – they’re likely to come out and say what they told you…) and on the basis of what the actual legislation actually says.

    For example, if the legislation said that someone receiving benefits was not looking for work, failed to turn up for appointments, and the reason for this was that they were spaced out on the couch all day, AND after testing positive, they were given extra support and access (non compulsory) to drug treatment, then it might be supportable.

    (I’m pretty confident, however, that it will be a case of taking resources away rather than adding them, but let’s wait and see).

  32. victoria

    Morning all

    The Trump imbroglio has entered a new phase. buckle up its going to be a bumpy ride.
    Meanwhile, as reported the SA govt will be auditing all buildings in light of the fire disaster in The UK.
    I believe these audits should take place Australia wide. I discussed the matter with people who are connected to building construction. Due to the nature of how approvals and permits are ticked off, it is highly likely that some construction has included this flammable type of cladding.

  33. zoomster

    Marty

    ‘Can’t have poor folks cluttering up the place.’

    Yes, much better having them live in million dollar properties whilst others go homeless because there aren’t the funds to house them.

  34. Marty

    ‘Yes, much better having them live in million dollar properties whilst others go homeless because there aren’t the funds to house them.’

    You think it’s better to move people hours away from the city to places where there are no jobs or infrastructure?

    I was supporting your original point, by the way, that simply dropping public housing into already rich areas probably doesn’t have the desired effect. I was just pointing out that the growth of high property prices due to what looks like a bubble means that the ‘rich’ areas are expanding to engulf what was previously accessible housing.

    Anyway, I have to go and coach my son’s under 8’s soccer team now, so enjoy your day.

  35. Desert Qlder

    Jack Waterford takes another few swipes at Bill Shorten. He doesn’t expand on his assertion that Shorten is different in ideals to Corbyn amid his series of insults:

    “Here in Australia, Bill Shorten leads the Labor Party, and thus the opposition, by a somewhat less straightforward system of engaging party members. It’s a system imposed by Kevin Rudd after the destabilising days of the Rudd-Gillard-Rudd governments, caused in part by Shorten’s treachery.

    A plebiscite of party members after the last election saw Shorten lose to Anthony Albanese, but that counted for only 50 per cent of the process. The other half came from an election from his party colleagues, most of whom were heavily leant on by the union chieftains who control party preselections. Shorten was enough ahead of the caucus vote to overcome his deficit in the popular vote.

    Shorten is, of course, himself a former union chieftain and numbers man. His authority turns on that power, rather than on popularity with members. In this sense, he is the opposite of Corbyn, who is apart from and opposed to the party’s own centres of power. He is, as well, in almost every respect, different in style, personality, ideas and ideals from Corbyn. If he can use mechanical rhetoric to evoke a long link back to worker struggle, he is never less convincing than when he gets out the onion, puts a fake tremor of emotion into his voice, or pretends he actually believes in anything.

    But if the Shorten-Corbyn analogy is far from clear, imagine what could happen if the Australian Liberal Party resolved its leadership questions by a ballot of members rather than by caucus vote.”

  36. sprocket_

    For those who can’t get enough of Trump, his 98 page listing of assets, liabilities, income, companies, trusts etc provided to the US Government Office of Ethics has been leaked. Quite a tome.

    https://oge.app.box.com/s/kz4qvbdsbcfrzq16msuo4zmth6rerh1c

  37. C@tmomma

    Marty,
    ‘I’m sure Labor does, too. However, we’re better off approaching legislation on the subject armed with the facts.’

    I’m sure some in Labor do too.

    I hope to be proven wrong, but I suspect that the idea will be focus grouped and found to appeal to voters and reluctantly supported.

    What a breathtaking assumption on your part about the Labor Party!

    And you would be another Greens supporter who prefers feelpinions to facts, I presume? Unlike the Labor Party. A fact that you refuse to acknowledge still, even after zoomster has pointed it out to you that Labor is waiting for the legislation and consulting experts before they make a decision about it. NOT consulting focus groups.

  38. zoomster

    ‘You think it’s better to move people hours away from the city to places where there are no jobs or infrastructure?’

    No.

  39. Trog Sorrenson

    Desert Qlder

    Jack Waterford takes another few swipes at Bill Shorten. He doesn’t expand on his assertion that Shorten is different in ideals to Corbyn amid his series of insults:

    Shorten lacks any credentials on energy and climate policy. For him the whole thing is just a strategic game to wedge Turnbull with his conservative right. which is what you get when apparatchiks do the electing, rather than the rank and file.
    He had better hope that Turnbull doesn’t win his internal fight with Abbott and Co, otherwise the Labor lead will evaporate like mist on a Queensland morning.
    Turnbull’s take down of Trump at the ball may just be the first step in a process of “fuck it, it’s all or nothing”.

  40. C@tmomma

    Typical Green. Puts down Wyong. Probably never been outside of the Inner Sydney suburbs where The Greens supporters are concentrated. Probably a ‘Knowledge Economy Professional’. Of course coaches a Soccer team, not a Rugby League team. Too violent.

    Harumph!

  41. confessions

    Morning all.

    Thanks BK for another hefty round up. Good to see Trump unhinging further. I hope this is an indication we are getting closer to some actual answers in this whole Russia fiasco.

  42. Vogon Poet

    Fact check lady on ABC talking about greens colluding with the LNP on gonski :
    ” Labor would be thrilled with this if it was their policy ”
    Fact check please.

  43. C@tmomma

    TrogS,
    I seem to remember that Bill Shorten was part of the federal Labor government that negotiated the HIP and the Clean Energy legislation. With The Greens.

    However, as it seems as though The Greens and their supporters, and the Coalition and their supporters, and the Jack Waterfords and their brethren in the Canberra Press Gallery bubble, only have open and unsubstantiated vilification of Bill Shorten left in their arsenal to use to try to destroy him and the Labor Party he is successfully leading, then I guess that is what they, and you Greens supporters, will pathetically keep doing.

    Just like the $80 Million of taxpayers’ money spent on a Royal Commission to Kill Bill and his Union associations and leadership really worked, didn’t it?

    Anyway, keep wasting your energy and time doing it. It’s fun watching you all spin your wheels and get nowhere doing it. 🙂

  44. shiftaling

    No one is putting down Wyong. The only suburbs I can see being dissed here are the inner city ones which presumably shouldn’t have the right to send an MP to parliament.

  45. C@tmomma

    ” Labor would be thrilled with this if it was their policy ”

    The Full Gonski WAS Labor’s policy.

    Gonski 2.0, the bastardised version, is not.

  46. confessions

    Some funny tweets about MT’s roasting of Trump. I love the House of Cards one!
    https://www.buzzfeed.com/simoncrerar/there-is-always-a-leak?bffbozpol&utm_term=.nveKnjEbmZ#.wx8KRyq5la

  47. phoenixRED

    Financial Disclosure Form Adds Ammo To Lawsuits As Trump Has Made Millions Off Of Presidency

    For the plaintiffs who are suing Trump over Emoluments Clause violations and conflicts of interest, the President’s financial disclosure form shows that he is making millions off of being in the White House.

    The financial disclosure form isn’t a tax return and doesn’t answer any of the real questions that the American people and investigators have about Trump’s overseas businesses, but it is useful in the respect that it does show the pitfalls of a having a president who has refused to separate himself from his businesses. Trump is making millions off of being president, and one suspects that what Trump voluntary reported is just the tip of the iceberg.

    Trump’s lawyers did not want him to sign the certified financial disclosure form, because the President could place himself in legal jeopardy if he certified false information, although, that concern is quaint now that Trump is being investigated for obstruction of justice.

    http://www.politicususa.com/2017/06/16/financial-disclosure-form-adds-ammo-lawsuits-trump-millions-presidency.html

  48. Trog Sorrenson

    C@t

    Anyway, keep wasting your energy and time doing it. It’s fun watching you all spin your wheels and get nowhere doing it

    On the contrary, calling Shorten out on energy and climate policy might get the rest of the front bench to get him to lift his game on the issue. That would also clearly be in Shorten’s interests.

  49. Jack A Randa

    Lizzie has already quoted something else from this article
    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/coalition-brawl-over-britishstyle-home-office-deepens-as-december-reshuffle-looms-20170616-gwsie9.html ,
    but the bit at the end was what made me go whaaaaat?
    “and there is a view in the party that before he goes the Attorney-General wishes to secure the legalisation of same-sex marriage as a “legacy” item.”
    Another straw in the “small-l libs are finally going to rediscover their spines and stop caving in to the nutters” wind. I’ll believe it when I see it.
    (And Will, the Sign-in let me in today, but I still say stuff Crikey as a platform.)

  50. frednk


    That tower is austerity in ruins. Symbolism is everything in politics and nothing better signifies the May-Cameron-Osborne era that stripped bare the state and its social and physical protection of citizens.

    What does it represent in Australia? Cladding high rise buildings in polyethylene? It is pretty unbelievable.

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