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BludgerTrack: 53.0-47.0 to Labor

A bit of a fillip for Labor in the latest reading of the BludgerTrack poll aggregate, and also for Bill Shorten whose net approval rating has edged ahead of Malcolm Turnbull's.

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There’s a fair bit going on under the hood in BludgerTrack this week, which is why it’s taken so long. The bias adjustments and weightings have been recalibrated, and I’ve brought the two results so far from YouGov into the model. I’m not sure which of these is responsible, or whether it’s just because of two strong results for Labor from Newspoll and Essential, but there’s been a fairly noticeable bump to Labor on two-party preferred along with a net gain of two on the seat projection, with one gain in apiece in New South Wales, Queensland and South Australia balanced by a loss in Western Australia. A drought on leadership ratings has also ended with two sets of results from Newspoll and Essential, the effect of which is that Bill Shorten has now poked ahead of Malcolm Turnbull on net approval, though not preferred prime minister.

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  1. lizzie

    A new dawn, a new day.

  2. jeffemu

    Lizzie …. annnd a new ‘fred”

  3. phoenixRED

    Top Investigator Says They Have Black And White Evidence Of Trump Intent To Collude With Russia

    Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) called Donald Trump Jr.’s emails clear evidence of the Trump campaign’s desire to collude with Russia during an interview on ABC’s This Week.

    The Trump Jr. emails give investigators two vital pieces of information if they are going to prove that a crime was committed. The emails provide the motive, which was to get dirt on Hillary Clinton, and by taking the meeting, the Trump campaign demonstrated that they intended to collude with Russia.

    http://www.politicususa.com/2017/07/16/top-investigator-black-white-evidence-trump-intent-collude-russia.html

  4. Elaugaufein

    I’m suspicious of the ALP 2PP in Queensland given how rocky things seem for the Palaszczuk Government, the things aren’t perfectly correlated but you usually get some blowback.

    I also expect a bit of hammering on the Green vote over the next few polls, between the awful handling of Rhiannon, you don’t roar like a tiger then backdown straight away it pleases no one, and the loss of Ludlam (will be interesting to see what happens with his “portfolios”, he was one of the better performers in Parliament let alone the Greens alone in many of those areas. Though that may make things easier, it’s simply not possible so many people are so technologically inept, so some of the idiocy is likely for the sake of party room positions, which means there won’t be any real competition. )

  5. phoenixRED

    Red Hat Wearing MAGA Shouting Trump Supporters Conned Into Paying For Trump Jr.’s Lawyer

    New financial disclosure forms reveal that the Trump campaign used donor money to pay the retainer for Trump Jr.’s lawyer before The New York Times published their bombshell story.

    It was all a big con. Only a sucker would give money to Donald Trump and expect it to go for its stated purpose. The old proverb that a fool and his money are soon parted has never been truer than when looking at the financial relationship between Donald Trump and his supporters

    http://www.politicususa.com/2017/07/16/red-hat-wearing-maga-shouting-trump-supporters-conned-paying-trump-jr-s-lawyer.html

  6. phoenixRED

    Made In America Week Falls Apart For Trump After Reporter Asks About Ivanka Trump Clothing

    A White House spokesperson was touting Trump’s upcoming “Made In America” week, but when a reporter asked about Ivanka Trump’s made overseas clothing line, the White House clammed up and said, “We’ll get back to you on that.”

    Trump is setting himself up for ridicule on a daily basis. This president lacks any sense of decency and self-awareness. Made In America week is already a total disaster because Donald Trump doesn’t expect people to point out that he and his kids don’t actually make their products in America.

    http://www.politicususa.com/2017/07/16/america-week-falls-trump-reporter-asks-ivanka-trump-clothing.html

  7. phoenixRED

    Donald Trump’s lawyer scapegoats Secret Service, giving away that Trump was probably at Russia meeting

    By Bill Palmer

    Donald Trump’s bumbling lawyer Jay Sekulow appeared on live national television today and tried making the argument that if Donald Trump Jr. had been doing anything illegal in his meeting with the Kremlin, the Secret Service would have stepped in and stopped it. That’s a nonsensical argument on just about every level – most of all because Donald Trump Jr. didn’t have Secret Service protection that early on in the election. In fact only one person in the Trump campaign did.

    That’s right, Donald Trump’s lawyer probably just gave away that Donald Trump himself was indeed in attendance at his son’s Russia collusion meeting. Think about how Trump and his lawyer would have come up with this new and weird defense. They’d have been brainstorming, and Trump would have mentioned that when he was in the meeting, his Secret Service agents didn’t try to stop it. And then Trump’s lawyer, not being particularly smart about things, would have said “There’s our defense. We’ll just say that the Secret Service didn’t intervene.”

    Again, the only possible way the Secret Service could have been in attendance at this Russia meeting is if Donald Trump himself was also in attendance. So the fact that Trump’s lawyer has invoked them is a giveaway that Trump probably was at that meeting. Now we just have to follow that trail and prove it.

  8. John Reidy

    Thanks William, the track ‘feels’ right after the Essential and Newspoll results.
    The coalition are now down 9 seats in Queensland.
    They might need to propose a second coal fired power station.

    In the SMH today, push back against the Carmichael mine from NSW:

    Subsidised mines would be a $10 billion long-term hit to NSW budget
    Subsidies for new coal mines in Queensland’s Galilee Basin will have “devastating consequences” for NSW coal industry.
    http://www.smh.com.au/environment/subsidised-queensland-coal-mines-would-be-a-10-billion-hit-to-nsw-budget-20170716-gxccq3.html?btis

  9. sprocket_

    Perhaps the Murdoch droogs have gone too far in blowing smoke up Tony Abbott’s budgie smugglers? Today’s SmearStralian is groaning with ‘patch it up, fellas’ articles. Perhaps Macolm’s sojourn in England included a catch up with the Dirty Digger?

  10. sprocket_

    Telling commentary by ex-SmearStralian editor and Murdoch favourite Chris Mitchell. Jump the paywall for this one. A snippet:

    “Abbott’s public support is more limited and always has been. Despite very strong appeal to older, conservative Australians, he would most likely drag his party’s vote down, and only damage his own reputation and the country by helping to elect a wildly populist Bill Shorten Labor government.

    Some conservatives have suggested Queensland-based Immigration Minister Peter Dutton to topple Turnbull but he has very low recognition in the polling and would seem unlikely to win a majority in his party room. A strong media performer with views on immigration that have proven popular with voters, the Dutton I have known since my time as editor in chief of Queensland Newspapers seems to me an unlikely candidate to volunteer for electoral suicide.

    Then there is perennial No 2 Julie Bishop who is suited to foreign affairs but was a disaster in opposition as spokeswoman on Treasury matters. Bishop is a wily media operator but hard heads in the party, and especially on the conservative wing, are often more hostile to her than to Turnbull.

    All this is sad for the country and for the Coalition. For the media, it is seminal. The latest Abbott destabilisation campaign marks an entirely new level of political involvement by people ostensibly employed as journalists. Many of the Turnbull critics listed above have been viciously contemptuous of the Member for Wentworth in a way once reserved for little-read blogs or Twitter rather than the mainstream media.

    BuzzFeed political editor Mark Di Stefano wrote a strong piece last week on the “Foxification” of Sky News, pointing out the network’s nightly commentary programming has adopted the style of Fox News since it was taken over in full by News Corp Australia.

    For news junkies the schedule of Andrew Bolt at 7pm, Paul Murray for two hours at 9pm and Chris Kenny at 11pm is compelling.

    Yet even the hosts would admit this is partisan television in a way unmatched in Australian media history. There is no pretence of journalistic even-handedness and Credlin, particularly, is proud to talk about “we” and “us” when discussing the Coalition. Conservatives who have long complained of the left leanings of the national broadcaster are fed a diet of right-wing raw meat each night that even many long-term Coalition voters find hard-edged.”

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/media/opinion/another-sad-chapter-of-leadership-instability-for-the-country/news-story/114a0f7671fe1e6852be398dbe69d5d0

  11. lizzie

    It was very pleasant to indulge in an evening of reminiscence. Thanks to the bludgers with long memories. 🙂

  12. phoenixRED

    Secret Service smacks down Trump lawyer: Russia meeting was never cleared with us

    The Secret Service hit back at an attempt by President Donald Trump’s attorney Jay Sekulow to blame them for the meeting Donald Trump Jr. and key members of the Trump 2016 campaign staff took with Kremlin-aligned lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya and a Russian-born lobbyist.

    The issued a statement to Reuters that said, “Donald Trump, Jr. was not a protectee of the USSS in June, 2016. Thus we would not have screened anyone he was meeting with at that time.”

    The Secret Service does not protect the families of presidential candidates, but only assigns a detail to the candidate themselves within 120 days of a general election.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/secret-service-smacks-down-trump-lawyer-russian-meeting-was-never-cleared-with-us/

  13. victoria

    Morning all

    Trump and his acolytes blame everyone and anyone for their actions. Of course, this doesn’t extend to Putin and his cronies. Funny that!

  14. BK

    Good morning Dawn Patrollers.

    The Australian is full of the Liberal infighting and Murdochian desperation. Here is a sample to Google.
    /national-affairs/greiner-warning-end-civil-war-or-libs-will-lose/news-story/cd2692ba2e3fbb950b95f376387af59b
    Paul Kelly says it’s time for a showdown between Turnbull and Abbott to sort out their “poisonous differences”. Google.
    /opinion/columnists/paul-kelly/greiner-is-right-poison-at-heart-of-the-party-must-end/news-story/62ac5b9780eaaadd45492e0697646ec0
    A “lonely” Barnaby Joyce says he does not consider Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull a close friend and believes Tony Abbott is “talking to himself” and should stop. Google.
    /national-affairs/im-not-a-close-friend-of-turnbull-says-barnaby-joyce/news-story/61078db97962198213ad1eebb6490b5e
    Greg Sheridan begins his article with “Watch out Malcolm Turnbull and all eastern state Liberal Party leaders — Cory Bernardi is coming hunting for your members and your voters.” Google.
    /opinion/columnists/greg-sheridan/bernardi-continues-to-build-his-national-membership-power-base/news-story/fc1c565e936ffb36e673ad4f0eae73c1
    Maurice Newman says you can’t vote for these Libs and that their future is in Abbott’s conservative hands. Google.
    /opinion/liberal-partys-future-may-rest-in-conservative-hands-of-tony-abbott/news-story/5f3e07588098eb212ed2ceb27db93827
    Deputy Liberal leader Julie (Lady Macbeth) Bishop has craftily dodged admitting whether or not she has ambitions to one day be prime minister, after a poll found voters favoured her as Liberal leader over Malcolm Turnbull.
    http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2017/07/16/julie-bishop-popular-turnbull-poll/
    Urban Wronski on Turnbull’s latest epic failure of judgement.
    https://urbanwronski.com/2017/07/16/turnbull-tries-on-menzies-mantle-in-another-epic-failure-of-judgement/
    The military will be given sweeping powers to deploy forces and even take charge during terrorist attacks under changes to Australia’s national security laws. Potatohead will be salivating!
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australian-army-to-be-deployed-on-domestic-soil-during-future-terrorist-attacks-20170716-gxc7gu.html

  15. Trog Sorrenson

    Looks like Monday morning commuters on the Manly ferry dodged a bullet when that guy caught the mako.

    MAKO SHARK – ISURUS OXYRINCHUS
    The shortfin mako shark also is known as the blue pointer and bonito shark. It is a fast speed-swimming shark that has been called “the peregrine falcon of the sharks” in allusion to the fastest bird in the world. It is considered an animal dangerous to humans because of the speed which can attack and its ability to jump into the fishing boats.

  16. BK

    Section 2 . . .

    Ross Gittins writes that teaching is too important to leave to teachers.
    http://www.smh.com.au/business/pisa-and-naplan-test-results-reveal-worsening-school-performance-20170716-gxc3tb.html
    In reality PaTH is the devaluing of young people, and the creation of a second class of workers, paid well below minimum wage and only valuable to business as long as the government keeps footing the bill. Surely this program will end in tears.
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/new-internship-program-once-again-devalues-the-work-of-young-people-20170713-gxakto.html
    Deloitte thinks that we are sitting on a “powder keg” housing market that is spooking the RBA from getting interest rates back up. Google.
    /news/economy/deloitte-says-rates-wont-rise-until-2018-amid-powder-keg-property-market-20170714-gxb9gx
    Vacant housing rates are rising in our major cities. Across Australia on census night, 11.2% of housing was recorded as unoccupied – a total of 1,089,165 dwellings. With housing affordability stress also intensifying, the moment for a push on empty property taxes looks to have arrived.
    https://theconversation.com/taxing-empty-homes-a-step-towards-affordable-housing-but-much-more-can-be-done-80742
    I take my hat off to these Tasmanians.
    http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/good-news/2017/07/16/tasmanian-hobbyists-think-outside-the-box-by-making-their-own-coffins/
    Amanda Vanstone writes that nostalgia is a potent motivator. Blended with stupidity it’s a nightmare.
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/liberal-or-labor-youre-probably-sitting-comfortably-in-the-sensible-centre-20170715-gxbuk5.html
    George Williams writes that momentum is building to legalise voluntary euthanasia in Australia and that the debate is about to reignite. The passage of a state voluntary euthanasia law will lead church groups and other opponents to call for national intervention but constitutional law is not too clear in this regard.
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/battle-over-voluntary-euthanasia-about-to-reignite-20170715-gxbvjw.html
    Meanwhile the case of a terminally ill former lecturer will come before the high court this week in the first substantial legal challenge to the UK’s ban on assisted dying.
    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/jul/16/terminally-ill-man-challenges-uks-ban-on-assisted-dying-at-high-court
    Jennifer Hewitt says that Josh Frydenberg is about to find out what’s politically affordable on power. Google.
    /opinion/columnists/josh-frydenberg-is-about-to-find-out-whats-politically-affordable-on-power-20170716-gxc5qi
    And Jackson Stiles writes that the insanity of Coalition conservatives on energy policy continues to hurtle the nation towards more blackouts and hugely expensive power bills.
    http://thenewdaily.com.au/money/finance-news/2017/07/14/energy-crisis-gas/

  17. BK

    Section 3 . . .

    Adam Gartrell writes that state governments would reclaim their constitutional powers over income tax and introduce public hospital co-payments to free themselves from the “financial blight” of Medicare, under a think tank’s radical plan for federation reform.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/state-income-taxes-and-hospital-copayments-proposed-to-tackle-medicare-blight-20170715-gxc3ei.html
    Hostilities have broken out over a meeting to debate an overhaul of NSW Liberal Party preselection rules, with supporters of a reform backed by former prime minister Tony Abbott accused of attempting to “stack” the event. Let the festivities begin!
    http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/tony-abbott-backers-accused-of-trying-to-stack-nsw-liberal-convention-20170716-gxc8dn.html
    Nick Greiner pines for the Howard era. Sorry Nick, it’s passed us by.
    http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/tony-abbott-backers-accused-of-trying-to-stack-nsw-liberal-convention-20170716-gxc8dn.html
    Who are the true victims in the AFL sexual conduct PR disaster?
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/afl-sex-claim-revelations-are-a-pr-disaster-but-who-are-the-true-victims-20170715-gxbwbm.html
    Greg Jericho says that the Australian cricket dispute is a wonderful advertisement for joining a union.
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2017/jul/16/australian-crickets-pay-dispute-is-a-wonderful-ad-for-joining-a-union
    The Yanks are too dumb to understand this.
    http://www.smh.com.au/national/health/secondbest-in-the-world-no-guarantee-of-an-equitable-healthcare-system-20170715-gxc3ja.html
    Trump’s unpopularity continues to rise and, of course, it’s all the media’s fault.
    http://www.smh.com.au/world/with-approval-rating-falling-further-trump-blames-media-for-distorting-democracy-20170716-gxcga0.html
    And right on cue Trump lets fly in a new Twitter storm at the “Fake News” media.
    http://www.theage.com.au/world/trump-accuses-media-of-distorting-democracy-in-morning-twitter-post-20170716-gxcfhi.html
    Nine signs that Brexit isn’t going too well.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2017/07/16/9-signs-brexit-isnt-quite-going-as-planned_a_23032443/?utm_hp_ref=au-homepage

  18. BK

    Section 4 . . . with Cartoon Corner

    The Liberal National party state conference in Queensland has overwhelmingly voted against a limited Muslim immigration ban but has voted to call for headscarves to be banned for young children.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jul/16/liberal-national-party-conference-calls-for-ban-on-headscarves-for-children-under-10
    Leaked secret defence force documents give a chilling insight into the corruption wrought on individuals by endless war.
    https://independentaustralia.net/article-display/afghan-files-expose-corruption-of-war,10508

    A tremendous effort from Matt Golding gives us the new Liberal executive toy.
    https://www.fairfaxstatic.com.au/content/dam/images/g/x/c/a/h/j/image.related.articleLeadwide.620×349.gxc6uu.png/1500212214685.jpg
    Andrew Dyson with the Menzies tradition.
    https://www.fairfaxstatic.com.au/content/dam/images/g/x/b/h/g/7/image.related.articleLeadwide.620×349.gxbuk5.png/1500221029892.jpg
    Road rage with Matt Golding.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DE2c5Y8V0AQsMmI.jpg
    Reg Leahy has Trump meeting his match.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DE29ZuqUAAQwRFP.jpg
    Another great bit of work from David Rowe.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DE14nEBUQAAkOIq.jpg
    Pat Clement with Peta and Tony.
    http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/96d55c3b8963038daf525f8289547485

  19. lizzie

    Turnbull’s keen to talk up our twelve submarines on order, a deal which is far from water-tight. He continues to pretend that a $50 billion investment in an untried concept is a stroke of genius. But he’s left treading water on the jobs hoax.

    90% of the submarine build would take place in Australia, the government was promised. But in a senate committee hearing last month, French builder DCNS backed away from that commitment. DCNS has “no formal agreement” with ASC. The company now intends to “absorb” ASC workers, the ones David Johnston wouldn’t trust to build a canoe.

    With a sinking feeling Turnbull returns to his own survival. He has a cunning plan to redefine the Liberals to exclude those who are giving him trouble. He’ll invoke Menzies. Portray him as a leftie. Brilliant. What could possibly go wrong?

    Bill Shorten knows. He sticks his head up his holiday reading to lob a well-aimed zinger. “The Turnbull government is in the middle of an identity crisis and they’ve forgotten what their real job is – it’s to look after the country.”

    https://urbanwronski.com/2017/07/16/turnbull-tries-on-menzies-mantle-in-another-epic-failure-of-judgement/

  20. poroti

    Sprocket_
    So the editor of The Australian is complaining about overtly partisanship by reporters ? Well I suppose we should listen to the experts. Who would know more about blatant partisan journalism than a Mordor Media manager ?

  21. confessions

    Morning all and thank again PhoenixRed and BK for today’s round up.

    I also enjoyed the reminiscing last night, remembering all those who had come and gone over the years.

  22. zoomster

    ‘This is why teaching is a problem too important to be left to teachers. The more so because some teachers – a minority, I trust – have become hyper-defensive, refusing to acknowledge there’s a problem, telling themselves that, if there is a problem, it’s everybody’s fault bar their profession’s, and branding any non-teacher who dares to offer an opinion a “teacher-basher”.’

    The irony of this is that this is all Gittins’ article is – teacher bashing. He doesn’t offer any way forward, let alone suggest who should be in charge of the ‘problem’.

    In my experience (which is, in this instance, purely Victorian) the best educational gains were made when teachers were in charge of decision making. Over the last thirty years, ‘teacher bashing’ saw teachers’ role in decision making at both school and government levels diminished, and power handed over to parents (which effectively meant school principals, which effectively meant Education Department bureaucrats, whose focus was on saving money).

    Gonski (Mark 1; I assume Mark 2 as well) didn’t hand over money for nothing. Programs had to be evaluated for effectiveness and effective programs were to be extended to other schools and systems.

    But we don’t even have to look to Gonski. If we don’t trust teachers to be professionals who care about educational standards, there is a huge amount of international research which tells us how to get the ‘productivity’ gains Gittins is on about – and NAPLAN results support these findings.

    1. Educate prospective parents. You can throw a fortune at a child born with preventable brain damage due to Foetal Alcohol syndrome or lack of folic acid and never ‘improve’ them – whereas a little education of their parents would have prevented the problem to begin with. A child born to parents with no understanding of nutrition is behind the eight ball developmentally to begin with. A child whose parents can’t read children books or doesn’t understand the importance of reading to their children not only won’t read to them but will model the concept that reading isn’t important.

    The best indicators of children’s academic performance are having a parent at home for a significant amount of time in their preschool years, having a high birthweight, and growing up in a house filled with books.

    So focussing money and resources at pre school children – the earlier the better – has multiple benefits.

    At present, we do this backwards. We wait until the child has been at school for at least a couple of years, and they’re already behind. Then we start to give them a little extra attention. We wait, however, until secondary college, when they’re massively behind, to put in a real effort – and I have known schools to wait until Year 12 to assist.

    I’ve known several students who only got the help they needed towards the end of secondary school – but by then they had basically missed out on ten years worth of schooling, and the gap was too great to close.

  23. lizzie

    Terry Sweetman‏ @Terrytoo69 · 1h1 hour ago
    This idea that army will somehow always be more efficient, rapid and responsive than the cops suggests some people have never been in army.

    If One Nation supporters really wanted to retain “Australian culture”, they would not support black-shirted Border and Customs officers, or soldiers “keeping the peace” on the streets.

  24. lizzie

    zoomster

    I’m wondering long-term results will eventuate from pre-schoolers being taken into Parliament. 😉

  25. confessions

    Lives are being put at risk and the State’s economy under increased threat because of uncertainty and confusion about the National Broadband Network in WA, warns a scathing submission to a Commonwealth inquiry.

    WA’s Chief Information Officer Giles Nunis has also questioned whether the viability of the NBN was in doubt because of the cost and poor service experienced by many WA users.

    The submission, on behalf of the State Government, will be examined at a hearing in Perth today of the Federal Parliament’s joint standing committee on the NBN.

    “If WA agencies are unable to guarantee reliable connections for their services through the NBN, the lives of Western Australians are potentially at risk,” the submission reads.

    https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/nbn-fail-a-threat-to-lives-economy-ng-b88538329z

  26. John Reidy

    Media slants or bias can be subtle, on page 2 of today’s GG “Our people are worth the penalty rates: JB Hi-Fi”.
    On their announcement that they won’t be passing on the Sunday penalty rate cut, JB said ‘the best outcome for our team members was to maintain their existing conditions ‘.
    They first line of the article says “..JB Hi-Fi has refused to pass on the FWC mandated cuts”, as if they are defying a ruling. Isn’t that how a free and flexible Labour market is supposed to work?

    Further in the article they mention it may come at a ‘cost to shareholders’.

  27. confessions

    Poorer suburbs are getting second-rate broadband while wealthier neighbourhoods benefit from superior fibre-to-the-home technology, a Federal Labor MP has claimed.

    National Broadband Network joint standing committee deputy chairman Josh Wilson is concerned the $37.4 billion project is creating a State of haves and have-nots when it comes to internet broadband.

    He argues that rather than closing the digital divide, the rollout of fibre-to-the-premises in “newer and wealthier” suburbs and fibre-to-the-node in others is locking in inequality.

    Comparing his electorate of Fremantle to the neighbouring seat of Tangney, Mr Wilson said Hamilton Hill had a median weekly household income of $1166 and was getting fibre-to-the-node. Applecross with a median income of $2186 would receive superior fibre-to-the-premises technology.

    “People who live in rural and remote Australia or in poorer metro suburbs are getting fibre-to-the-node or worse, while newer and wealthier areas get fibre-to-the-premises,” he said.

    https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/mp-claims-broadband-bias-in-wa-suburbs-ng-b88538386z

    NBN seems to be a bit of a theme in today’s West.

  28. Trog Sorrenson

    Thanks BK.
    Vanstone crapping on about the “sensible centre”. A meaningless phrase with similar roots to “technology agnostic”, “sensible centre” is just shorthand for “maintaining the status quo”. What that is depends on your political orientation. I am sure Eric Abtez’s idea of the “sensible centre” is quite different to Mark Butler’s.
    How about politicians and commentators discussing actual policy for once, instead of recycling this crap.

  29. Trog Sorrenson

    Abetz
    (a moron paid $250,000/year just to be a moron)

  30. confessions

    And more of the same theme.

    They are arguably the worst-served internet customers in the Western world — families in Perth’s eastern suburbs who get excited when their internet speeds surpass a snail-paced two megabits per second, 12mbps slower than the average connection speed in Lithuania.

    But the Seneque family of Noranda don’t need to be quoted figures to appreciate that they might as well be living in the Third World when it comes to internet service.

    So slow and unreliable is their wireless broadband that Rodney Seneque sees less of his two children because they simply can’t study at home.

    His son Tristan, 21, goes to a mate’s house for his online university lectures and daughter Hannah, 16, does her high school homework at school.

    “The only way I can work at home is to make sure no one else in the house is on the net,” Tristan said. “Even then it’s slow.”

    And don’t dare ask what it’s like to try live-streaming Netflix or English Premier League soccer. “In one part of Noranda they can’t even get ADSL — they’re still on dial-up,” Rodney said.

    https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/a-service-thats-slower-than-a-leisurely-snail-ng-b88538331z

  31. jenauthor

    Pleasant morning, Bludgertrack-wise.

    I gather the YouGov numbers didn’t rate too highly at this stage. 🙂

  32. jenauthor

    The sensible centre argument is hilarious when you think about it.

    I look at the world this way – you’re either walking toward something or away from it.

    In politics, the ALP walks toward the future, willingly, knowing there is potential for the betterment of life. Aspiration can be rewarded.

    The coalition walks away from the future … their eyes firmly focussed on the 1950s-70s and the nostalgia of a ‘simpler, safer’ time when everyone knew their place and aspiration was confined to those who they thought deserved it.

  33. citizen

    This article linked by BK:

    Adam Gartrell writes that state governments would reclaim their constitutional powers over income tax and introduce public hospital co-payments to free themselves from the “financial blight” of Medicare, under a think tank’s radical plan for federation reform.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/state-income-taxes-and-hospital-copayments-proposed-to-tackle-medicare-blight-20170715-gxc3ei.html

    The think tank in question is the RW Centre for Independent Studies. They’re about as “independent” as Fox News is “fair and balanced”.

  34. guytaur

    Good Morning

    William thanks for the Bludgertrack update. Like with BK I don’t say it much but I appreciate your insight into politics big time.

    I am pleased voters are rewarding the government with the ratings I think it deserves for its performance.

  35. guytaur

    Citizen

    The term co payment is a dead giveaway. Thats the US health care system. No true Australian wants that value to become an Australian value.

  36. Barney in Go Dau

    trog sorrenson @ #28 Monday, July 17, 2017 at 8:51 am

    Thanks BK.
    Vanstone crapping on about the “sensible centre”. A meaningless phrase with similar roots to “technology agnostic”, “sensible centre” is just shorthand for “maintaining the status quo”. What that is depends on your political orientation. I am sure Eric Abtez’s idea of the “sensible centre” is quite different to Mark Butler’s.
    How about politicians and commentators discussing actual policy for once, instead of recycling this crap.

    Agree, but if the Liberals are referring to that part of them as the “sensible centre”, is that an acknowledgement that the “Right” of the Party are not sensible?

    Maybe they are the,

    Irrational, insensitive, crazed, self-indulgent Right;

    or more simply;

    Completely heartless, egomanical bastards.

    As opposed to the “sensible centre” who are just

    Heartless, egomanical bastards.
    🙂

  37. guytaur

    BK missed the big entertainment controversy. A female Doctor Who.

    One Jodi Whittaker. I am for it. However I wanted a bit more rainbow sexuality first. Good luck to her and the BBC for taking this step. George Christensen MP will not be happy with the gender bending 👿

  38. guytaur

    Some good news

    DownerCarCrash: Adani are so broke that Bank of India are pressuring them to sell Australian holdings to repay loans. thehindu.com/business/Indus… #StopAdani pic.twitter.com/hzSQ9uDwW1

    http://www.thehindu.com/business/Industry/the-biggestever-fire-sale-of-indian-corporate-assets-has-begun-to-tide-over-bad-loans-crisis/article8573163.ece

  39. poroti

    Citizen
    After Rupes started slashing journo numbers way back The Centre for Independent Studies along with the IPA were who Rupert chose to use to supply endless articles and opinion pieces. Ended up making me decide to stop buying The Australian.

  40. Barney in Go Dau

    jenauthor @ #31 Monday, July 17, 2017 at 9:03 am

    Pleasant morning, Bludgertrack-wise.
    I gather the YouGov numbers didn’t rate too highly at this stage.

  41. guytaur

    Remember Delta getting bad publicity over a Dr. Now its on the comeback with some good publicity.

    Delta: @AnnCoulter Additionally, your insults about our other customers and employees are unacceptable and unnecessary.

  42. zoomster

    ‘One Jodi Whittaker. I am for it. However I wanted a bit more rainbow sexuality first..’

    Why? Because 10% of the population deserve more recognition than 50%?

  43. Voice Endeavour

    I find it hard to work out if the comments in the Australian are serious or not. Take for example.

    Average Joe 14 MINUTES AGO
    Keep going Cory.

    This business about civil war in the Libs because of Mr Abbott is BS. The civil war is because Lord Wentworth (an employee of the Illuminati) knifed a sitting PM. That was the day I left the Liberal party. I joined the Australian Conservatives the day it was announced.

    The Liberal Party is dead to me.

  44. guytaur

    zoomster

    I just thought the last season should have been that. I applaud the female Dr. On twitter the “masculine” blokes are whining already.

  45. Barney in Go Dau

    Jen, you emojied me, too early 🙂
    I think William uses the raw primary numbers and calculates his own 2PP.

    They weren’t so much different to the others and also he probably gives YouGov a low initial weighting until he gets a better feel for their direction.

  46. zoomster

    guytaur

    The last season had a lesbian as the companion. The spin off series has a bi sexual in a homosexual relationship as the main character. I think Dr Who has got its bases covered.

  47. Question

    From Urban Wronski. Menzies reaches from the grave and gives Turnbull a sharp slap.

    “The main trouble in my state is that we have the State Executive of the Liberal Party, which is dominated by what they now call ‘Liberals with a small l’ – that is to say, Liberals who believe in nothing but still believe in anything if they think it worth a few votes. The whole thing is tragic.” – Menzies

  48. sprocket_

    If Adani has to have a fire sale of Australian assets, Big Gina might step up to the plate, as she did with the cattle stations.

    She might be wise to wait until her boys Barnyard and Caravan deliver on a tax-payer funded railroad to the port.

  49. Player One

    guytaur @ #37 Monday, July 17, 2017 at 9:18 am

    However I wanted a bit more rainbow sexuality first.

    Too much information! : )

  50. citizen

    Here’s hoping that many other retailers read the public mood over penalty rates like JB HiFi has apparently done. JB can probably see a commercial advantage in a competitive retail market of being seen to treat their staff fairly.

    Hopefully other retailers will see the positive image that they can project by doing likewise.
    It will be interesting to see what the perennial whinger Gerry Harvey is doing.

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