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Jul 16, 2011

Did the Herald Sun publish a call to assassinate Julia Gillard?

If you look through the last few Cut & Paste Trophy threads you'll find lots of comments that we'v

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If you look through the last few Cut & Paste Trophy threads you’ll find lots of comments that we’ve seen, published by News Ltd, by hysterical readers saying they wouldn’t be surprised if someone assassinated Brown or Gillard, demanding that “something must be done” to get rid of this government, desperately hoping that its slim majority can be… reduced.

But you wouldn’t think the Herald Sun would actually publish a specific, undeniable call for assassination, would you?

If this screenshot is accurate – and we don’t know which post it was from – then we’d say News Ltd is flat-out publishing incitements to violence now, of the most despicable and disturbing kind:

An actual call to assassinate the Prime Minister, published by a major media organisation. A call to do it urgently, with a paranoid cry that she’s going to “destroy our way of life”.

Published by News Ltd rather than, say, referred to the AFP.

Inciting fear and hatred, and then gleefully publishing the results. And I suppose they’ll act all shocked and innocent if one of their crazy readers goes and does something terrible.

38 comments

38 thoughts on “Did the Herald Sun publish a call to assassinate Julia Gillard?

  1. How low can you go? Ask the Herald Sun. « Black Dog

    […] integrity. Perhaps it would help to put this into context. This is a newspaper that has published calls for the assassination of the Prime Minister, that has wilfully published disinformation regarding the science of climate change, and seemingly […]

  2. Pezz

    @32

    If.. If.. If..

    Yes, if they leave the comment and agree that the thoughts of “Mark of Panania” reflect the views of the organisation, then of course I agree you.

    You don’t even know what they think, why not ask them and decide before posting?

    I think you draw a very long bow based on a pretty flimsy premise, but it allows for an exciting post title, and that’s the main thing.

  3. Strife

    Theres an old internet saying, I think Confuscious or Lincoln said it. “Screen shot or it didnt happen”.

  4. RobJ

    I wonder if trawling the Google cache would reveal anything. I might have a look later.

  5. peter de mambla

    [and of course the gutless wonders deleted it…]

    What evidentiary status do screenshots have? Anyone have any idea? Or is it the case that once a comment is deleted, then it for all intents and purposes never existed, screenshots notwithstanding?

  6. quantize

    [@30

    Okay, well IF the only thing you have is an unverified screenshot of a web page THEN you shouldn’t draw conclusions such as they are “flat-out publishing incitements to violence”.]

    Pezz you either don’t read enough, or read here enough because that characterization of the typical comments is completely accurate.

    and of course the gutless wonders deleted it…

  7. Jeremy Sear

    If they deny it, then fine. I don’t think they will, because that screenshot matches the thread and the other things they’ve been publishing.

    IF they published it, do you agree they are “flat-out publishing incitements to violence”?

  8. Pezz

    @30

    Okay, well IF the only thing you have is an unverified screenshot of a web page THEN you shouldn’t draw conclusions such as they are “flat-out publishing incitements to violence”.

  9. Jeremy Sear

    “- The comment was removed. I’d also like someone to prove to me that “moderation” is performed by a team of professionals, not some intern clicking “approve” on a web page 400 times (419 times if the screenshot is to be believed).”

    The point is that calling for an “assassination” of the Prime Minister is something that you’d think would set off alarm bells.

    The reason it didn’t, of course, is that the Hun has been publishing far too many comments skirting far too close to that line for the last few months.

    If someone sent that comment to The Age, I suspect even the most dull-witted intern would think twice and go and check before hitting publish.

    “You even state you’re not sure the screenshot is accurate, but whatever, you go on and state that it is them endorsing assassination.”

    I think you’ll find that you’re ignoring the word “if” in that sentence.

  10. Ronson Dalby

    The wingnuts in the Opposition and the media have a lot to answer for:

    http://weezmgk.posterous.com/gutless-3groves-deleted-his-death-threat-agai

  11. Mr Denmore

    The fact that a comment like that can be let through on a News Limited site is news, but who’s going to report it? Bolt’s site draws in the unhinged, the paranoid, the furious and the downright insane – yet News publishes it all.

    You can be sure that if the conservatives were in power and comments of this nature appeared on a Fairfax site, News Ltd papers would be all over it.

  12. Pezz

    @14

    – The comment was removed. I’d also like someone to prove to me that “moderation” is performed by a team of professionals, not some intern clicking “approve” on a web page 400 times (419 times if the screenshot is to be believed).

    – You even state you’re not sure the screenshot is accurate, but whatever, you go on and state that it is them endorsing assassination.

    Sensationalist and misleading, just like the Hun.

  13. The End Of “The World” As We Know It « The Superb Operate

    […] to want this sort of regulation. When the Herald Sun, the News Ltd. tabloid in Melbourne, publishes a comment by a reader calling for the assassination of the Australian Prime Minister on its website, it might be time for something to be done. When you have the atrocious example of […]

  14. gtpfb13

    The frenzy Bolt is whipping up with his deceit that Bob Brown is trying to stifle conservative opinion is very worrying.

    Although there are no threats of violence, yet, the responses to his Would You Want Bob Brown Running Your Media are pretty frantic.

    What is his objective in writing this sort of deceitful, misleading, anger inciting trash? Why would anyone want to deliberately take advantage of people who obviously are unable to distinguish truth from opinion and seem totally reliant on him for what they should think and how they should feel.

    There is a very real danger that with such a wide audience in print, on radio and TV, there will be someone who will take Andrew’s faux outrage and anger as a signal that “something needs to be done” to get rid of this goverment or Gillard or The Greens or Bob Brown, even though that is not Andrew’s intention. Problem is, it’s often very hard to see that it’s not.

  15. AR

    Quantize – that would be “garlanded”, not garnered – gathered.
    But hey, they are only the majority publisher in this benighted land, they can’t be responsible for what appears on their pages/sites.
    It’s not as if the Mudorc hisself were urging violence or insurrection.

  16. Angra

    Variety (not usually known for its political nous) says – “Behavior in the U.K. over the past few weeks has very much been akin to a country that has seen itself freed from a dictator, and in the uprising, these actors (eg Hugh Grant, Steve Coogan) seem to have positioned themselves as voices for the people, roles typically played by politicians.”

  17. Marek Bage

    David McRae @ 19

    That was a brilliant article!
    I can’t believe I missed it first time around.
    Thanks for sharing it.

    Cheers.

  18. Kristen Smith

    Please do not take my previous comment the wrong way. The arch green stalinist is to be admired. Obiviously Australia as a country, is not ready for an obscure blind internet crikey polemicist, albeit with a frisky labrador to take the lead in hard violent political action. But surely a site like Pure Poison. If it is to be true to its stated mission with its sure sighted prescience should take him to task. Come on Jermey !

  19. ShaunHC

    Was it a call for physical or political assassination? Hard to tell without the story it goes with.

  20. David McRae

    Ahhh, this is the one Geoff Lemon refers to in his Drum piece, with the caps NOW.
    http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/2794652.html

  21. Just Me

    “Arch green Stalinist”

    Communist version of a Godwin?

  22. Daniel

    “Will there be a thread about arch green Stalinist Bernard Keane calling for Terrorist attacks on coal mines and powers stations if the carbon tax is repealed in yesterdays crikey ?”

    Go back and read what Keane wrote again. Keane didn’t advocate “terrorism” – that is a complete fabrication.

  23. Jeremy Sear

    “Will there be a thread about arch green Stalinist Bernard Keane calling for Terrorist attacks on coal mines and powers stations if the carbon tax is repealed in yesterdays crikey ?”

    “Arch green Stalinist”, lol.

  24. monkeywrench

    Spot the sudden appearance by a News Ltd. shill.

  25. Jeremy Sear

    “I’m the last person to defend the Hun, but really? Letting a stupid blog comment through by some dumb redneck is considered “publishing” and therefore that means the whole paper supports that action?”

    (a) it’s not just one, as the Cut & Paste threads have revealed, lately.
    (b) And approving comments being the same as endorsing them is precisely the line that News Ltd has been running that led to us starting the Cut & Paste Trophy in the first place.

  26. Kristen Smith

    Will there be a thread about arch green Stalinist Bernard Keane calling for Terrorist attacks on coal mines and powers stations if the carbon tax is repealed in yesterdays crikey ?

  27. Will S

    So we’ve seen a Liberal party member intimidate a woman for expressing her view, this comment, and yet more death threats to climate scientists (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWVFHJUYVcE)

    I ask again… What is it with The Right and violence?

  28. SHV

    “..no evidence of illegality..”

    Maybe. If there was evidence we would just move straight to the prosecution. If there isn’t then we need this inquiry.

    News Corp is s-tscared of what the FBI is going to find when it starts snooping about. News Ltd should feel some of that too.

  29. Pezz

    I’m the last person to defend the Hun, but really? Letting a stupid blog comment through by some dumb redneck is considered “publishing” and therefore that means the whole paper supports that action?

    Really?

    A friend of mine posted this article to Facebook and, I must say, the title is very Herald-Sun worthy – sensationalist and misleading.

    And honestly, it’s not like there’s a lack of things to have a go at News about at the moment.

  30. phyllis stein

    And as for the meme that there is “no evidence of NewsOfTheWorld type illegality in Australia” Julian Disney Press Council. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

  31. Alex M

    Not sure about the law in Victoria, but I’m bloody sure there’s an offence in NSW covering the menacing or threatening of someone over a telecommunications carrier. And given that it’s the PM being threatened, I’d be surprised if this was not being investigated. After all the shit hitting the fan in the UK, you’d think that someone in the Horrid Sun’s Dept. Of Blog Moderation would be a tad more attentive.

  32. quantize

    it’s all ‘business as usual’ whilst the boss goes around grovelling in the UK

  33. RobJ

    Typical News Ltd behavior isn’t it. Did you all notice that it’s News Ltd objecting most to an inquiry? There’s a surprise.

  34. Angra

    Well they did publish this –

    “JULIA Gillard has faced a Question Time attack over her decision to “assassinate” her predecessor Kevin Rudd one year ago this week.

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/julia-gillard-battles-tony-abbotts-attack-over-kevin-rudds-assassination/story-e6frf7jo-1226080690777

  35. Brizben

    I guess that would fulfill Joe Hockeys wide eyed wish something might “happen” before the next election to bring on a by-election.

  36. monkeywrench

    One would think that, in the light of News Ltd.’s miasma overseas, the idiot who authorised this for publication would have thought twice. But I suppose no phone hacking was involved, so it was considered acceptable.
    This is what we’re dealing with in News Ltd.

  37. Evan

    I suspect it probably came from this thread here:

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/carbon-tax-pm-announces-23-per-tonne-carbon-price/comments-e6frf7jo-1226091428949?pg=5

    Dates and times and comment numbers all correlate – but the screencapped comment is not there.

  38. quantize

    They just keep garnering themselves in glory don’t they?

    Time for another pompous delusional editorial no doubt..

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