Andrew Bolt

Jun 27, 2012

All hail our new boat regime overlords

Quick question: has something happened to our government this week that we've missed here at Pure Poison? Talking of an action by the Australian government, a columnist at News L

Quick question: has something happened to our government this week that we’ve missed here at Pure Poison? Talking of an action by the Australian government, a columnist at News Ltd writes of ““this farcical boat people regime”.

When did that happen? Have they broken out of detention centres and seized Parliament?

ELSEWHERE: The same columnist fears a city “divided by ethnicity” based on figures indicating that in some suburbs 70% of people are from another country originally!11!1!!!

Of course, areas of Melbourne with 70%+ white Anglo-Saxon Australian-born residents aren’t “divided by ethnicity”, and it’s the poor migrants’ fault that they’ve no chance of living in those suburbs. Because they won’t assimilate/find $800k behind the couch.

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8 thoughts on “All hail our new boat regime overlords

  1. SHV


    Don’t forget, in all that hyperventilating about Indonesia, that our spooks are on the ground there (even if by proxy in many cases) and we know every bit as much, and arguably even more, than the Indonesian authorities about the specifics of every single boat DEPARTURE from that part of the world headed this way.

    We should spend a lot more time asking our government what they are doing and a lot less time whinging about every other country in the refugee equation. Otherwise we, as a society, just look tiny-minded and mean.

  2. shepherdmarilyn

    Why the hell is it Indonesia’s fault? The refugees are not Indonesians, they are Afghans, Iraqis and Iranians and Indonesia cannot feed most of her own people let alone others.

    We pay Indonesia to do our dirty work and today I want to commit murder.

    Gillard gloats that she can now torture refugees and claim it is legal and then gets dressed up to the nines for dinner.

    What a fucking sickening $10 pommy hypocrite.

  3. jules

    What good are TPVs tho?

    Rudd’s thing of a permanant protection visa isn’t a bad idea. Giving refugees permanent protection is the only reasonable response, because it enables people to recover. the idea of permanent protection means permanant safety. That means the visa holder will be quicker to feel capable of returning to their home or working to change things from a safe place. This can only benefit us. All immigration family reunion should be treated the same refugees included. If anything there should be a presumption for people’s safety.

    A tpv is a tight arsed cruelty and kind of summed up Howard and the worst aspects of his government. I doubt it had any affect on arrivals cos frankly even Australia with a tpv is better than a camp. And what about someone who is here for more than 10 years under a tpv. Especially someone under 20. So much of who they are will be shaped by living in Australia. That makes them Australian, at least in part.

    [I wonder if a more effective solution might be to pick a few provinces in the south-west of java and offer their local governments 15 million bucks a year in cash – minus $300k for every boat our navy picks out of the sea and minus $1 million for every one that sinks.]

    But that really means “only every boat we know about that sinks.” One million dollars is a big incentive to stop us knowing about a boat that sinks. If a refugee boat sinks in Indo waters then its possibly going to lose them a million dollars to rescue survivors, or even be seen to look.

    There’s probably something in what you say tho. There’d have to be other safeguards, and perhaps some of the millions could go to settling refugees in Indonesia… at least that’d be an honest way to spend the money stopping the boats.

    This whole “stop the boats” thing is Abbott’s line tho. Do a google search for the saying before mid 2009. You won’t find many uses of the term. Its just one of those mantra like sayings and it infects peoples thinking thru shear repetition. Its done wonders for Abbott tho. It makes the idea of stopping the boats seem sane. Once upon a time fishermen would drop people off in their fishing boats for a lot less money. Many of those boats have been confiscated and burned so now the boats are unseaworthy and chock full of people.

    And the reality is the refugee rate will rise while these resource conflicts in the ME and Africa continue. Those conflicts will only intensify.

  4. Steve777

    If we choose to house asylum seekers on remote islands without much infrastructure then everything is going to be more expensive, including getting emergency treatment for serious injuries. I expect that the island is beyond the range of even the Flying Doctor. So what are we supposed to do? If it had been a tourist, the Herald Sun would be demanding that we send a plane to collect them. Being an asylum seeker, I suppose Herald Sun readers would have preferred that the man get gangrene and die.

  5. Matthew of Canberra

    Just looking at the approving prose from andy about the fine speeches being given by the opposition in parliament today. He’s probably right, though. The opposition is in the position of care without responsibility, so they can wax lyrical. Heck – they could speak in limericks if they wanted to. The boats are arriving and sinking on the ALP’s watch, so there’s not a great deal they can do wrong (politically) as long as they watch themselves and don’t get wedged somehow. This IS their issue, basically. The ALP’s supporters don’t like the idea of dumping on people who try to get to our shores on leaking boats, whereas the libs’ supporters … they seem to dislike it a wee bit less.

    And for the record, I also agree that we are probably at the point where something needs to be done, and fast. Indonesia is apparently unable or unwilling to police the ships leaving its shores, and they’re letting people cram onto boats that should not be at sea. So we ought to find a way to make their policing capacity unnecessary.

    However …

    Let’s try to remember that the party that’s currently rubbing ashes in its hair and crying ‘what about the children’ is the same party that once tried to tell us that boat people “could be” terrorists, that they were criminals, queue-jumpers, cashed-up opportunists, country-shoppers, a threat to our borders, everything except legitimate refugees seeking a better life. They changed the terminology of the debate in order to demonise and criminalise. And they did that when the boats were arriving safe and sound – heck, the apogee of this particular caring party’s rhetoric took place when a bunch of refugees were sitting on a norwegian container ship, a bit crook but otherwise basically waiting to land. What did we do? We sent our special forces out to meet them (and didn’t that post-sydney-2000 glow fade fast?). So yes, they do get quite angry when a boat sinks. But they get angry even when they don’t.

    So spare us the claim that the coalition cares for the well-being of refugees more than anyone else does. They’re pretty much in the same boat we all are – none of us wants to see people drowning on their way to get to australia, because we feel responsible. They can die in indonesia – that’s fine, as long as we’re not made to feel like we ought to do anything about it (like, say, let them come to australia). But just not in a boat … at least not if it’s headed our way. And when we talk about how keen we are to prevent these tragedies, let’s remember that we’re not SO keen that we’re massively beefing up our SAR resources on Christmas island, or doing all we can to pluck then out of the sea before they’re in danger. Or (heaven forbid) picking them up from indonesia ourselves. Our solution is to beef up our laws so that we don’t have to let them stay even if they do make it, and hoping they stop trying.

    Personally, I think the responsible party here is indonesia. I’m sure they’re facing all sorts of challenges, but basically they’re behaving like any other transit country. They’ve got their own refugee problem, so a few boatloads heading out is not at the top of their priorities. I wonder if a more effective solution might be to pick a few provinces in the south-west of java and offer their local governments 15 million bucks a year in cash – minus $300k for every boat our navy picks out of the sea and minus $1 million for every one that sinks. I think that would put a very big dent in our boat problem, and for a lot less than we’re spending now. And just like that SAS outing to MV Tampa, we could take the cost out of our foreign aid budget. Win/win!

    I would like to see the ALP reintroduce TPVs. I don’t want to see them reintroduce the dodgy extra-territorial processing arrangements or refugee swaps with countries we don’t trust. I’d also like to see them do something to, well, shape indonesia’s interests a bit – get them to start actually looking for boats BEFORE they sink. And I’d like them to do it – and make it work – so that the libs don’t have the excuse to reintroduce their creepy unaccountable deal with nauru. They might talk the talk on refugee conventions, but their solution had a player who answered only to cabinet and didn’t have to sign anything of the sort.

  6. jules

    Careful Matt, next you’ll be infringing on someones free speech. I think Anders Bolt has a point. Its sharp and made of steal.

  7. Matthew of Canberra

    Wait a minute …. I thought this “ethnicity” thing was an artificial construct that stood in the way of our shared humanity, and led to things like racism, and people writing books and stuff. Now … if that’s actually so, then where’s the problem? If ethnicity and race are things we should put aside, then why does it matter where somebody is born?

  8. shepherdmarilyn

    What the hell is a boat people regime anyway? They are currently in parliament being told by the neighbours that they will not play our dirty refugee games anymore while they pretend that we can unilaterally break our own laws and expect the high court to go along with it.

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